221 - The Disappearance of Susan Wolff Cappel

[@patriciajohnson8453]

Ladies and gentlemen PLEASE don’t EVER met up with your ex if you’re in the middle of a bitter custody battle, let your lawyers do the talking for you!

[@thesilverpen]

Thank you for covering Susan's case. Her Mom and mine were friends and all locals knew about her abduction, but the case was fumbled terribly. Fate took out all the players in this crime through karma. Sadly, she still lies out there somewhere. I feel on the Winding Staircase, but that ground was changed through mining, etc. I took the job she worked at the IGA later, and often was asked about her. Mom wished to have seen this resolved and Susan found in her lifetime, but she did not make it. I hope Susan is found during mine. Another case in the same area with a missing body is of Mrs. Loader. Mrs. Loader's granddaughter was Susan's co-worker at the IGA. Small town coincidences. Jeannie Nicely's disappearance had a bit different details. Locally it was known there was a claim her car had some blood in it as if she might have been killed in it. Of course, that was local gossip at the time, and I don't think I saw much "official" word on it. With Susan, there were eye witnesses to the car she got into, and everyone knew who the passenger's in that car were. But no blood. John Lawver was my cousin, but I had no love for him or his way of policing. Susan's son Damien grew up to be a fine man, last I heard. He was graduating high school last time I saw anything of him. On that night people said they saw the Parrish's later that evening. True or not-- maybe the investigation knows. But that meant they only had about 20 minutes to 40 minutes at most to do whatever they they "allegedly" did. A radius around narrows the search I would think, for evidence--but the police work being as it was-- well.. Anyway...

[@dinabaughman8731]

My mom was Betty (Wolff) King.

[@Bella.216]

This is definitely her husband's doing! He probably told her that she could see her son before the court hearing! People need to be more careful about these situations! Never, ever meet without having a few people with you! I'm disgusted with all law enforcement! The whole system is corrupt!

[@TheRoadhammer379]

Bullshit

[@soalegria1971]

Yup!

[@sherribrown294]

He was young….. I’m thinking his Mother, definitely his family, she knew the person in that car, and

[@tophers3756]

I normally resist speculation or accusations because we in the outside don't have the whole picture. That said, in this case it seems pretty obvious who is to blame. Could I convict the ex beyond a reasonable doubt with the only evidence we, as listeners, have heard? No, but I'm 90% convinced it was him.

[@janetmiller2980]

Yup. When in a contentious relationship, whether business or personal, if you absolutely must meet with the other party, bring a family member or friend.

[@RaoulThomas007]

Time to interview Allen’s second wife and see what she has to say. She’s a mother and can appreciate what not knowing happened to a child would be like. Additionally, the friend’s of the cousin’s, for the year prior to the incident need to be interviewed. Certainly using ground penetrating radar on the Cappel farm would be a good idea, if consent could be obtained. What is the size of the Gilmore farm? Finally, Allen’s projects that he had involvement in at the Ohio Department of Transportation should be documented and reviewed for potential sites that may have been used by him. His co-workers need to be interviewed closely.

[@lindabrosky1042]

I agree with you, she probably has at least a suspicion about her husband.

[@AKUMA_23060]

This is my second cousin, I remember hearing her story growing up, I was down in newcomers town for most of my childhood about 2 blocks away from the iga… her case sparked my interest in true crime and unsolved mystery’s. We all just want her to come home or someone to know something… thank you for sharing her story…

[@dinabaughman8731]

I'm related to you. My mom is Betty (Wolff) King.

[@LazyDaisyDay88]

Who could possibly believe that a dedicated young mother would simply leave? Are the police so out of touch? Do they seriously lack so much basic understanding? The father only wanted the boy so the mother couldn't have him. Shame on them for such a terrible investigation.

[@CDN1975]

I listen to these on your podcast but watch again to see pictures of the people in these cases. Thanks for taking the time to tell their stories.

[@loredanadincu4300]

It takes two seconds two Google their names and see pictures of the victims.

[@scj6693]

@@loredanadincu4300 what difference does it make? does it really matter?

[@loredanadincu4300]

@scj these people said they listened the podcast version and waited for him tk release the youtube version to see the victims. If you want to see how the victims look you can literally tape their name in to seconds on Google and see them. Or is that too much of a hassle, their hands could fall off because of the effort. Laziness is a great thing nowadays.

[@scj6693]

@@loredanadincu4300 i just can’t imagine caring enough to get mad at someone for this, to be honest

[@loredanadincu4300]

@scj who said I was mad, your own self. I made an observation regarding that person comment. I think you might be mad or something that you came to harass me. This is the second time in a row I saw this message one one of his videos. And yes if you really want to see a photo of the victim or find updates or something else about the case , is that simple to do it. Tape the name on Google, it takes two seconds

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Them cops should be ashamed for covering this up and or the poor effort.

[@shellygardner6410]

What's more American than working as little as possible for their paycheck. They get paid either way.

[@Choikesta]

Another video! 😮 What is that like 8 videos in the last week!?! What is it my birthday or something? 😂 No but seriously I am loving this marathon of videos you are putting out. Anytime I have something mundane to do, like driving long distances, your videos help a lot! Keep up the great work!

[@SL.D]

The fact she disappeared right after finding out about the custody hearing makes me think the husband was involved. Coincidental timing is a thing, but this was too coincidental. Occams razor is sharp and this seems fairly straight forward as to who did it.

[@no_peace]

I mean that's on top of the like 99% statistical likelihood of it being him in the first place

[@howdareyouexist]

prove it

[@annabellelee4535]

Looks more Brenda Heist though.

[@Joanla1954]

@@howdareyouexist Are you related to the man/men that had something to do with Susan going missing? And how dare I exist? God dared and deemed it! Take it up with Him!

[@patrickcoffman4774]

​​@@howdareyouexistmust be someone who's been there and done that, husband, main suspect, chief of police at the time was probably cover it up ad husband worked for the state, looked at your profile nothing there, just a bum being hateful

[@devinisdead4061]

I’m only 17 minutes in but had to be the baby’s father in some way right??

[@TheRoadhammer379]

No, not always but it's trendy to blame the husband, God forbid a man actually get custody of his kid. She willingly got into someone's car, in front of a Co worker, a witness for that matter.

[@soalegria1971]

🎯 the loss of control was something the husband would not tolerate

[@devinisdead4061]

@@TheRoadhammer379 well that’s because statistically speaking it is generally the husband.

[@KGood28]

She knew who she got into the car with, felt safe enough, and seemed annoyed that they wanted to talk. Sounds like the husband.

[@telemag2000]

@@soalegria1971 What control? He had sole temp custody which was extremely rare in those days and still is. I wonder why a judge decided this ?Unless I missed it did he have an alibi ? Sounds like the cop in charge knew who did this and for some reason was covering it up.

[@MJ-531]

She thought a blue car had been following her; and then her husband immediately knows when she left their child with a babysitter and where this babysitter lived..because he took the baby from said sitter, while she was out. She was said to look annoyed by the person she got in the car with, telling us she knew them or they had ties to someone she knew, and she was finally getting a court date in a few days for custody...this one seems like a no brainer as far as assumption goes, but hopefully there will be more concrete evidence surface. I feel so bad for her child and family. Thank you for bringing lesser known cases to us! 💝

[@whelanmmw]

How heartbeaking. That poor mother.

[@jessiefrye3045]

My nephew was murdered, and my Mother started praying that whomever was involved, that God would destroy them. And to please let her be able to see/ know about it. 2 years later, his stepdad died. He had a seizure and was transported to hospital. He died. Drs were baffled. Stepdads bff diagnosed with cancer, dead in weeks. Stepdads son, killed in a car wreck, just a year later. When he died, my Mother said "God told me it is done, He has answered my prayers". Never underestimate what God will do, when a Mother is praying with all her heart and soul!

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Jesus said to forgive. Not pray for others to be destroyed. That being said, God will deal with evil on His own.

[@MusicLeeSarah]

Damn Sues parents were all up in the letters to the editor section dropping the mic before the mic even existed

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

WARNING ⚠️ To all women…don’t go off with ex partners in situations like this unless with a few friends, be very suspicious of anyone suddenly asking you to go with them out of the blue for whatever reason especially if you having trouble with said persons.

[@janetmiller2980]

I’d say the same for the men. There are some women who can be pretty unscrupulous and lacking in boundaries as well. A friend when we were living in another district was served a restraining order by his estranged wife-who then contacted HIM. 🤨. Next day in court, he had an on duty police officer walk him to his car when he left-not so much feeling in danger, but as a witness to any attempt at contact by her.

[@lisak2580]

Absolutely. Even meeting in public is dangerous if you don’t have others with you. I think of the Amanda Jones case, and so many others that involved interaction with an ex around the time they went missing. 😢

[@janetmiller2980]

@@lisak2580 I think one individual on this thread hasn’t heard of such basic concepts of what is done in darkness most of us aren’t as likely to do, or at least will give some second thought beforehand, in daylight. I guess he or she has never heard of such concepts as two with a potential, current or former sexual attraction meeting in the presence of at least one witness is different from them meeting alone. Oh well.

[@joasok3642]

Good advice

[@Greenrocketqueen]

Dr Phil’s wife Robin is a huge advocate for domestic violence victims and has always said that one of the most dangerous periods for a women in that situation is when she’s putting distance between her and the abuser aka separation assault

[@Xxxxxx19-p1c]

I hate it when people speculate a hypothesis that doesn’t fit the facts. There’s no way this young lady would have run away. She was a driven go-getter who was actively working on her plan to make a better life for herself and her son. She could have really torn this world apart with her personality!

[@lindabrosky1042]

I feel so bad for her family. I have no doubt that her husband was involved,whether he killed her himself or paid someone to do it for him. The police should be ashamed of themselves for not doing that should have been done to find her.

[@shaunstephanie4807]

Thank you for what you do! My wife and I started listening around episode 20. So happy we did!

[@Tsumami__]

Interesting that Allen never seemed concerned about his ex wife’s disappearance, and wanted to maintain the idea that she was still alive. If he really knew he wasn’t involved, wouldn’t he be worried about what really did happen to her, and if she was hurt or killed by someone? No one else would have a reason to kill her, and she wasn’t dragged into a car by a stranger, she was seen willingly getting into a blue car, plus there’s also another statement from a witness who knew her younger sister and would’ve been vaguely familiar with Susan, that they saw her in a blue car with her ex husband. It sounds like he used the Parrish’s vehicle to pick her up. They may have been entirely unaware he was planning on killing her to keep custody of their child, but considering the fact that there were multiple alleged witnesses that stated an unnamed person asked them about killing her or abducting her, it’s hard to believe Allen isn’t that person, and that he wasn’t asking friends to assist in getting rid of his ex wife. I also found the defensive letters to the editor written by friends and family of Cappel and the Parrishes to be pretty interesting. They sounded like they knew their loved one was involved and were indignant about it being brought up repeatedly in the paper, as opposed to concerned about Susan’s disappearance and what happened.

[@aquarius2287]

A young woman in a contentious custody battle finally gets her court date & disappears that day. No viable suspects-really?? On another note, it’s crazy how many of these suspects (to those of us with functioning brains) end up dying untimely/in accidents. Be sure the Karma bus will find you & run your butt over! Condolences to Sue’s family. ❤

[@cadillacdeville5828]

Good morning Trace Evidence and crime crew 😊

[@carabeingblue4016]

When you said they were 40 when she disappeared and now they are 80...oh my gosh. It filled me with such sadness. I just can't imagine at my age of 47 that I could have a child missing for 7 years and have to spend the rest of my future worrying and searching frantically for her. Talk about search burnout. No wonder her mom is so tired. Besides being 80...Suffering is right. Thank you for covering this case. Killer. Love to the family.

[@pulaski1]

Cases like this are the _most_ frustrating, cases where the victim goes willingly (without apparent force or threat), and the person that took them is never identified. For most people the number of acquaintances who could persuade someone to get into their vehicle is going to be no more than a few dozen, and often less than that. So the failure of the police to track down that person is often only a matter of lack of resources, apathy, or laziness.

[@lindabrosky1042]

I completely agree with you

[@annabellelee4535]

But you don't know who a person knows. People said the exact same thing about Brenda Heist and you know how that turned out.

[@pulaski1]

@annabellelee4535 But the Brenda Heist case is an extreme outlier, not least because she turned up alive. And she wasn't abducted by someone she _knew,_ she was just talked into leaving on the spur of the moment, by strangers she apparently met at random. I am talking about cases where the victim was _known_ to have gone willing, (not abducted by force or threat) and where there are witnesses/ video evidence to support that fact. I know that scenario is only a small minority of missing person cases, but it's still a common enough scenario, which is why I mentioned it, that such cases should _generally_ not go cold.

[@annabellelee4535]

@@pulaski1 Missing persons are overwhelmingly found alive though. As for long term missing, there are examples of them, enough to have a name for the phenomena, "maliciously missing" which is an overly emotional tag. Remember missing man Jon Van Dyke? Car found disabled on the freeway and he is never seen again until years later when he divorces his wife.

[@pulaski1]

@annabellelee4535 Yes they are found alive, which is another reason why the Brenda Heist case is irrelevant to the point I raised. That said people reported missing and found alive are most likely found within 24hrs, and every day thereafter it gets progressively _less_ likely that they will be found alive. The chances of someone missing for one year showing up alive is very close to zero. Brenda Heist was a rare counter-example, like the three women found alive in Cleveland, Ohio in 2013, who had been missing for 10 years were another example, but Even Elizabeth Smart was only missing for 9 months, and Jayme Closs was only missing for three months.

[@themeantuber]

We all know what happened here. She gets a date for custody hearing and on the very same day she goes missing?! Even her coworker said that she made it clear that she was annoyed before entering that car. We don't know what was said, but it's easy to assume that if it was her husband, he could have said any number of things to get her in. If it was someone else acting on his behalf, also could have said any number of things, from "I am your husband's lawyer," to "Get in, your husband sent for you, the baby is sick" or something in those lines.

[@kristenschnese6980]

Totally the husband and the cousins were involved the fact that he referred to his lawyers when he was asked about questions later in prior to being killed says it all..

[@Eurocatbaby]

They didn't know what they were dealing with. A custody battle was going on and the wife is missing. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what they were dealing with or maybe they do. For the husband to take custody of the baby and then give it to his Aunt he was a control freak.Of course, I think her ex-husband made her disappear and she is probably dead. I don't think she left her family willingly. Allen had friends, Patrick "Rick" and his cousin Robert "Kelly" Parrish, whom Susan's parents suspect were involved in her disappearance. Rick owned an older model blue Plymouth Satellite similar to the car Susan was seen getting into the day of her disappearance. Two weeks after Susan's disappearance, Rick, Kelly, and another individual were killed inside that vehicle in a single-car crash. It is a shame they didn't get the wreck and try and see if there was any DNA or evidence that Susan was in that car. It doesn't mean the Parrish's were the ones driving but they could have let Allen borrow the car. You wonder if he had any other friends or family that had a blue car like the one seen. I think it easy to figure out what they said to her it was probably something regarding her son and maybe either the custody issue or getting to see him since her husband had canceled her last visit with her son. I'm so tired of these police departments getting in fights over jurisdiction. Or they don't reach out for help. They have to stop letting there ego's getting in the way and do what is best for the victims and their families. My heart goes out to her family.

[@tessaducek5601]

Ohio

[@keelsmac01]

Dna? In the 90s? No such thing.

[@carter358]

to keelsmac01 : DNA testing was absolutely available in the 1990s. He first DNS exoneration was in 1989. However this case occurred in 1982.

[@Yyyzzzmmmooo]

Its sad but back in the 80s & early 90s if you didn’t have a good department investigating a crime ~ many times there is no conclusion, But thanks to shows like yours these crimes are being looked at again .

[@tessaducek5601]

Especially Ohio

[@no_peace]

And every other year unfortunately

[@anneloving8405]

Especially in a custody battles LE soooo often can't work it out,mmmm how strange is that?I bet he was pretty chummy with someone from LE.

[@AlexiaLyles]

That poor lady!

[@patriciajohnson8453]

This is one of the most gut wrenching and heartbreaking cases I’ve ever heard. Shame on the police department for not doing their job, you utterly failed this family. The so-called husband knew how much Susan loved her son and how hard she fought to regain custody so he knew she didn’t leave on her own. It’s a dead giveaway anytime an ex say the missing person left town voluntarily. And even if she did leave voluntarily how on earth, could he be so nonchalant about her disappearance, she was the mother of his child for heaven sakes, he should’ve been out searching for her and passing out flyers! I have no doubt, that he is responsible for Susan’s disappearance. Susan said a blue car was following her, it had to be her husband driving his friends blue car, how else would he have known Susan had went out for the evening and left their son with the babysitter, how would he have known where to pick his son up if he wasn’t following her? I just hope and pray that Susan is found, her family needs closure if there is such a thing!💔😢

[@Madhouse_Media]

Seven minutes in an I'm still absorbing the fact there's such a thing as a baton academy.

[@melissasaint3283]

What is it with some police officers wanting to assume every missing person's case, unless a witness literallt saw the person dragged off kicking and screaming, is a runaway? Is it laziness? Thank goodness there a good, smart officers who take these cases seriously.

[@maureenzieber1523]

Wow. I was born 3 days after Sue went missing. My whole life is the length of her missing.

[@denniswhite6013]

Really miss the eerie background music. It added suspense and ambience

[@turntapeover5749]

Investigate the baby's father. Case solved. The police incompetence here is incredible.

[@LinaIsNotANoob]

The only thing I can think of that she might have gotten into the car, was if either her son was in the back of the car, or she thought she was going to see her son.

[@dragonflydreamer13]

If the person showed up at my job with a story about her son being very ill or injured offering to take her to him quickly then it would be almost guaranteed she’d get in the car and go with him or her.

[@pattykelly6621]

That doesn't explain the 'look of annoyance' reported by her coworker. It was likely her husband offering access to her son. He may have told her it was now or never and insisting she ride with him, that would account for the annoyance look. However, why would he approach Susan with a witness present? And the driver couldn't be sure he/she wouldn't be identified, especially if it was the husband or another local. So was Susan brought back to her car later and then abducted by a stranger? Then why didn't she call her parents in the time in between?

[@6Haunted-Days]

Sorry she wouldn’t have looked only annoyed or irritated if it was that, she’d be upset!

[@no_peace]

It could have been something less extreme than that though. He faked an emergency for himself to give an excuse to ask her to pick up her son, or he said she could see her son if she did something for the ex first Just classic abusive "negotiation"

[@ThePuschkin1986]

the amount of people here involved in car accidents is staggering

[@Joe_Dirt82]

The deputy I knew in guernsey said he thinks the brake lines were cut on the brother's car

[@silvanaorizi5643]

She did not leave she wanted her son back and she painted the room for him and she was happy for getting him back she was murdered !!!!!!!

[@snackbarqueen]

Such a very sad and tragic case 😢💔 I believe her husband murdered her to keep her away from her son, I pray that her remains are found in her parents lifetime so they can bring her home and put her to rest....RIP Sue ❤

[@anneloving8405]

Another case of a man who wants custody of a baby (i think when children are babies they are usually better off with the mother,different when they older)just to bet an A-hole coz he strait away dumps the baby at his aunt's.If you are gonna have custody YOU dont palm your child off to relatives ,Hundred percent he did it imo.

[@Zis4Zorro]

Wonderful coverage as always. I want to let you I've been a fan foe years. Your content always consistent and el researched. Thank you so much for your videos

[@silvanaorizi5643]

This case tells me that she knew her murder she wod never had left her baby boy somethings not right and the police need to open up the case again!

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Strange that the people that might be involved all died in car accidents KARMA 🙏

[@cynthiagibson6793]

Absolutely 💯 it was him

[@RepentfollowJesus]

Poor Susan, her son and her mom and family. I hope she is found.

[@marionweigel3542]

Thank you! Sometimes there's a grain of truth in a rumor. What was wrong with chief Lover?

[@always_b_natural703]

I didn't know you could refuse to show up and testify at a grand jury. I thought taking the 5th was the only way to not directly testify.

[@ruthkohler8449]

I knew Susan. I also knew Allen. I remember before and after they were married. Not one doubt in my mind, Allen did this. I also believe he disposed of her in the well on the property. It’s one of the few places that permission was never given, by the Carpels’, to be searched. Edit: I want to add, the area around the gas wells was excavated, however permission was never given to search inside the actual well.

[@pal1786]

Such a frustrating and sad story. You can’t help but ask yourself, who would benefit from her disappearance? The only person that I could come up with would be her husband. She was in the middle of a nasty divorce and custody battle. It may not have been the husband that was in the car, but it could’ve been someone he sent to pick her up. Possibly the way they got her to get into the car was to say something like, your husband wants to talk to you about the baby. That could be why she had the look of disdain on her face when she got in because she had to see her estranged husband but knew she needed to because it involves her son. Just speculating but why else would she look frustrated and actually get in the car? I hope and pray that there is resolution. I’m so sorry for the parents and family. My heart goes out to them.

[@thebewitchinghour831]

I tend to think deeper and overthink things. I was just thinking that her parents both have lived a long, pretty healthy life (being in their 80's)...and never really got to enjoy their long lives. To me that is the saddest part of this story. On the flip side - It seems to me that the cousin/cousin's friend (I forgot how they were listed) were on a suicide mission, knowing that eventually law enforcement might come around for them. The biggest freaking clue in the whole case was the damn car.

[@truthful2joyful]

The photo of the grocery store is wrong. It was “Thompson’s IGA” when she went missing. It didn’t become “Baker’s IGA” until like 15 years ago

[@MyNameIsCheyne]

I speak for everyone when I say the disappearance ones are the most interesting by far

[@septembersapphire347]

Sounds like a scorned husband who wanted to hurt his wife by keeping their son from her and make damn sure she would NEVER gain any rights to the child PERIOD. He's behind it, most definitely, you can bet on it.

[@lindiemoon]

Yep yep 100%

[@Cocoandindy]

It's obviously Allen. LE didn't do enough for Susan.

[@pou618]

The father was granted custody who promptly turned him over to someone else.

[@jeremyud]

Because he didn't actually want to raise his kid. It was a tactic to hurt Susan. Meanwhile she was painting her bedroom that she planned to share with her son.

[@DanielFoster-fp4zq]

So nobody recognizes the description of the light blue rusty car in their small town? Isn't not believing in coincidences a primary adage of any detective worth their salt?

[@truth528]

Maybe look into the local police..? Losing the case file 2x?? Sounds like someone is trying to lose it intentionally.

[@Joe_Dirt82]

I've dealt with NCT cops. Got hit in a vehicle accident. Other driver at fault. Cop "lost" the pictures so I was screwed. They are inept. During the 2000s the cops were cool with everyone, then the cool cops left. Now we have shitbags on power trips.

[@dolldoll2914]

👩🏻‍💻Hopefully the parents give the police and their sons their MT & Y DNA profiles so if their only daughter is found they can compare the samples for a match. The ex did it.

[@tphvictims5101]

The police tried to steal that $350. I’m willing to bet that the CI was another cop and that was EASY MONEY.

[@balazsvarga1823]

Just what is up with almost everyone having a car accident in this story?

[@6Haunted-Days]

Kinda obvious who killed her….no big mystery. Seems in 75% of missing women involve the bf or husband…..I’ve seen it for the last 35yrs I’ve been obsessed with true crime…..

[@shellygardner6410]

Zero investigation of the husband speaks volumes

[@howdareyouexist]

prove it

[@keelsmac01]

@@howdareyouexist why would she have to prove it? Lol This is the comments section of a crime vid. She can say who she believes did it. It’s up to the police to prove it. If they had done their job we wouldn’t be here speculating 🤔

[@donnablack6280]

Who did she tell the co-worker she was waiting for? Kind of weird to stand outside work with someone and not chat about your immediate plans, especially given the "look" her co-worker noted.

[@jerrymarbury9365]

Agree ,the rosey Yale doesn't hold water,no telling what was going on.

[@janetmiller2980]

Was she waiting for anyone? The co-worker was waiting for her husband, but SWC’s father had been shopping and noted where her car was in the lot.

[@MJ-531]

If I remember correctly, she drove her mom's car to work, which was there in the parking lot. Her co-worker was the one waiting to be picked up, so she was kindly waiting with her as to not leave her alone. Sadly, in that time frame, the blue car showed up.

[@thebewitchinghour831]

@@MJ-531 I was thinking.....oddly, in retrospect, she actually left the other lady standing there all by herself when she got into the car to go with 'whoever'.

[@RepentfollowJesus]

​yep so it had to be something to do with her ex and custody. She wouldn't have kept her if it wasn't important

[@kjmax1068]

It doesnt sound like Susans parents ever got any access to there grandchild again. That is weird. Poor Susan and family. Misogynist world at that time and I see a lot of that is still going on

[@tessaducek5601]

They had regular visits.

[@Myster-Man-Channel]

It explains they were granted visitation

[@catteb4368]

Actually even then it was very very unusual for a mother not to be granted custody of her children. It might be useful to know WHY she didn't get custody and how likely it was she would have been granted it in the hearing that was about to happen.

[@fluffedsquirrel]

Oh stop it with the constant m!SoGyNy claims, especially in cases like this....🤡

[@anneloving8405]

Oh so nice of him ...To cover his GUILT.

[@tsmith3286]

People are thinking way to deep into this IMO. Susan walks out the door with a coworker and a car pulls up and Susan gets in. Looks like she was getting a ride from someone she knew and he was there to pick her up right on time. This car was right by both girls. The man says something to Susan she says something back and the coworker apparently didn't hear what either had said. Susan turning around and rolling her eyes doesn't sound like the man said something derogatory. He may have said something jokingly and Susan may have figured the coworker had heard it so she just rolled her eyes not in disgust but in a joking way. There are a few things I'd like to know and a few kind of red flags. Did Susan always leave her purse money and ID at home when she went to work ? Did Susan always come directly home after work ? It sounds like she did but her parents saying she was home by 9:15 doesn't sound plausible. You just don't walk out the door once your shift is over. If you add up the time it takes to clock out add maybe a couple of minutes of small talk like she did with the coworker and the walk to the car and the mile drive home it's doubtful she is walking in the door at 9:15. It's just odd they were so precise. Susan's dad going to the store might be nothing but it does seem like an excuse for him to go there for some reason maybe to check on her. Why would someone go to the store at 6 pm to get food for dinner ? Why was Susan denied custody ? That almost never happens to the mother. Her comment of I AM going to the custody hearing. Why even make this comment ? Was there ever any question of her not going ? I don't see her husband telling one of his friends to pick Susan up after work and get rid of her for me. Actually I think that's ridiculous. Equally ridiculous is some strange guy using a derogatory remark as a pick up line to lure Susan in his car. Both scenarios would involve a man who has very bad intentions showing his face and car to the entire parking lot. Susan knew who this man was imo and he was there to pick her up as planned. Who ever this man was he wasn't known to her parents which I don't find too surprising and it would be equally as likely for her husband not to know. Maybe this man was married or maybe they just wanted to keep this lowkey until after the hearing. I find it really hard to believe this guy was confident enough to have plans to get rid of her and be stupid enough to show his face and car. If he did do something to her and it wasn't planned then he got lucky, but that's totally different. There aren't too many scenarios that would bring about Susan meeting her demise that night. It's possible she partook of something and overdosed and the guy panicked and got rid of her. Running off together is possible but not very likely at all. I don't see any reason for or how it would even be possible her husband being involved. He already had custody anyway and from the comment Susan made it sounded like she had doubts about even going or else why reiterate the obvious.

[@patrickcoffman4774]

I to think the husband had something to do with this, and the police chief was cover it up. Just to fishy

[@ropeburnsrussell]

Hadda be the ex. Right before the custody hearing? Bad police work.

[@elevatedemotions4548]

All know all these areas...kinda scary knowing all this happens in my backyard

[@Kloops]

Totally the husband.

[@Julie-kq7fq]

The ex has something to do with this case for sure.

[@Queen.AnneBoleyn]

Custody battle huh!? Then its a no brainer.

[@rhondamcewananderson3968]

I love Trace Evidence....end quote 🙂❤️

[@keelsmac01]

After the vallow kids were found on daybell’s property nothing is out of the realm of possibility. They should check the family of the exs land.

[@Laura-tp8wz]

Blessings to all

[@DonnaLynn-gl8nr]

I live here, these police are corupt as hell, plain and simple

[@DonnaLynn-gl8nr]

It's 2023 and it's the same mindset, these police don't care😢

[@memersupremer9993]

I like your videos but Im not sure where the issue I have with them started. The audio seems a lot louder, sharper, and grating now. It almost seems like im being not quite yelled at most of the video.

[@no_peace]

Gee i wonder who did it

[@southerngirl7425]

These cases are so heartbreaking.... All I can pray is.... Some Day Somehow this Will be Solved.... Ik I'd Never give up hoping for closure if she was part of my family....May God oversee All those Waiting ♥

[@InnocentUntil718]

Gm sir. Glad you're back. Lightweight misandry and all. You tell these stories the best.

[@TheWinston7777]

It takes a very small amount of intelligence to be in the police department.

[@nillyk5671]

Everyone died in a car accident? Karma...

[@numinousbookofreview]

Seems the fates have meted out justice of a kind with the early and sudden deaths of the likely culprits.

[@justme8837]

its weird that she is waiting with a friend, a car pulls up, she speaks to the person, makes a face, then gets in the car... nothing to the co worker as to why she was leaving or with who? she just walked away? weird.

[@Queen.AnneBoleyn]

At 19yo, nobody should've been going through all of that drama. See what a man can do to your life ladies! Listen to these crime cases with a personal humbleness.

[@Joe_Dirt82]

And go look at what women have done to men. Men stay away from women.

[@sandycromhout9850]

Sue got into the car with Alan, enticed by promises of seeing her baby. That's the only thing that would have worked.

[@MultiSmartass1]

Notes: 1) According to her coworker, Susan briefly talked to the person behind the wheel of the blue vehicle , flashed a look of disgust or disdain reportedly and walked over to the drivers site , got in and the car drove off. Here's whats odd: If Susan was irritated by this person behind the wheel , why opt to get in the car with them? Susan had her own car parked in the lot . Why not tell the person she could meet them at wherever they wanted to go and drive over herself ? Something doesn't add up here. If she chose to get in this blue car, she had to be convinced to do so for some reason. Otherwise she could have taken her own car. 2) Allen strikes me as someone who might have some involvement but whom.i don't think ultimately dealt with Susan here. Allan insisted on divorcing Susan and getting custody of his son. They were already separated. Thus there wasn't anything other than custody for Allen to gain in terms of Susan. In fact, All ens moves strike me as a way to punish Susan not control her. Considering that Susan left the home 3 times to get away from Allen during their difficult marriage, it wouldn't make sense for Susan - if Allen was behind the wheel of this blue vehicle - to get into the car with Allen with whom she was contesting custody of her son. 3) The official investigation seemed to be steered by apathy and then bungled. The newscomerstown dept seemed to want to rid themselves of this case as soon as they could. The prosecutor wasn't helping matters ant either . The siphoning of reward money to an undercover informant is a move I haven't seen but which doesn't surprise me as regards the readiness of small town depts. 4) I get the feeling there was something else going on with Susan. I don't think her disapoearance was tied to the divorce and custody battle but maybe romantic interests of others gone horribly wrong.

[@corkys6263]

Crazy I grew up in the area and never heard of this story before.

[@Col91016]

What connection does the Parrish brothers have with the victim?.

[@Joe_Dirt82]

The deputy I talked to in guernsey said they think they helped Allen dispose of her. Tried to stop them and they ran. He thinks someone cut thr brake lines.

[@Tamara-ny2ey]

Hey Steven this is totally unrelated I wanna say thank you for the update on the Anthonette Cayendito however your comment’s are turned off case as stated before people have suspected the mother and it was correct.

[@marionweigel3542]

Good morning!

[@kellymiller1247]

Her co-worker noted that when the car pulled up outside for her, she made a face and got it. I am thinking this can go 2 ways: Ex husband was in the car or he sent someone and they asked her to get in so the two of them could talk before the hearing. She was brought somewhere and killed. Or she had a stalker or someone that liked her. This person came by her work and asked to out to talk, for a drink or something. She made that face to her co-worker as she was annoyed by him and figured she would humor him. That person took her somewhere and killed her. I am not quite sold on the idea of her running away.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

No guesses to whom everyone is suspecting.

[@kevinoshea4134]

Another cover up by the cops? It was the husband

[@JL-ix5io]

Man, I wish I lived a mile from work, especially with the price of gas nowadays.

[@dinabaughman8731]

Will you be doing one on Dolores "Jeannie" Nicely?

[@AintImRite]

Doesn't appear to be registered with NAMUS.

[@catteb4368]

Godh your audio quality could do with improvement. It's very muffled and bass-heavy.

[@memersupremer9993]

was just trying to find someone with this comment, agreed completely. His older videos seem to be less LOUD and grating

[@moonchildluvsbobcrane]

I think it was the estranged husband. Maybe the driver said her son was sick so that's why she got in the car. Just my opinions.

[@loredanadincu4300]

So he said to her her son was sick and she rolled her eyes to her coworker and looked annoyed after talking to the guy. How does that make sense exactly ? She is annoyed because they told her her don is sick. Do you realize what you wrote

[@moonchildluvsbobcrane]

@@loredanadincu4300 she rolled her eyes because she thought the dad didn't want to deal with his son being sick and so she was going to go take care of him.

[@loredanadincu4300]

@@moonchildluvsbobcrane yeah I don't think so

[@loredanadincu4300]

@Moon Child and the dad was more than willing to deal with him , since he wanted the custody full time.

[@moonchildluvsbobcrane]

@@loredanadincu4300 like I stated these are my opinions

[@Saudi_queen]

Husband hired someone to kill her

[@cynthiagibson6793]

Karma really is a ***** isn't it?

[@MJ-531]

My exact thoughts