23. The Greeks Seek for Wisdom

[@crystalhaughton9021]

I appreciate all the teachings. please continue to post.. very interesting..

[@GoreBruce]

Thanks for the encouragement!

[@wolfhound45]

Another great lesson but the Sunday school application was absolutely incredible!

[@jmy106]

Bruce. Your background knowledge on all the characters and on the age in general is really unbelievable... inspiring for me to do better.

[@George-ur8ow]

As a Greek, a historian, but first and foremost, a Christian, a big part of me believes that all of the musings, philosophies and experimentation was meant to culminate in the following moment that would change Greece and the world forever: "Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, You men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are too superstitious. For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, 'To The Unknown God'. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you." (Acts 17:22-23)

[@markmoore3530]

Greetings, minutes 40 - 43 is an exceptional presentation of the gospel, tearful.

[@protochris]

Thank you, as a person of Greek descent I enjoyed your overview of Greek history. I especially liked your conclusion: "for the message (logos) of the cross is to those who are perishing foolishness, but unto us being saved it is the power of God"

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you!

[@tmagz6622]

the correct translation is "unto us who are saved"

[@protochris]

@@tmagz6622 σωζομένοις is a particple, not a noun. "Being saved" is correct, but the implication can also be "who are saved".

[@PetrosPaul]

You have a wonderful culture and a wonderful history. I'm not Greek but I love the history, culture and language.

[@kaybert980]

I'm so happy I found your channel 😁 please stay encouraged and keep posting I love love love your material!

[@Hi8862]

These videos are wonderful! Thank you for the teaching.

[@alcoholfree6381]

These is another very informative talk. Learning the history of Biblical times strengths me and allows me to feel better about my faith. I view my faith as my Actions based upon my Beliefs about God and sustained by Confidence in His Word (Numbers 23:19). Mr. Gore is a great teacher!! Thanks for your consistent work.

[@vidahayes1120]

Bruce I just want to tell you that I watch the whole video just to get to the Sunday school part! I cry every time! Thank you.

[@GoreBruce]

God bless you.

[@vidapeters7677]

THANK YOU MAY I BE OF HIS SHEEP THANK YOU FOR ACCESS TO WISDOM

[@GoreBruce]

+Vida Peters Thank you!

[@americanparser]

Vida, Yes, you may! I see this remark was three years ago. Have you since accepted Jesus Christ as God, and accepted His sacrifice on the cross as full payment for the debt of your sins?

[@DiepNguyen-hd9nb]

I appreciate all the teachings

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you! I appreciate your interest!

[@blostin]

I wish I could have read all Mr Gore has read, but I am more than happy to listening to his classes.

[@Spark_Iskra_z_Polski]

You still can read it. Many of these books must be available online. You can for instance read or listen to Josephus The Antiquities of the Jews.

[@peaceful263]

I've often wondered where the color thing came from too ! You are the bomb Mr. Gore. May the Lord bless you and yours. Peace and love.

[@feeb812]

Great material , great job, love love it ❤

[@DigitalGnosis]

Awesome sunday school lesson in this one, powerful, just what I needed at this point in my life.

[@GoreBruce]

Blessings my friend.

[@samandeli3424]

I'd sure like to be in your classroom.

[@Marilia181318]

Dr Bruce , if I have a chance to attend to your class I certainly will attend because you are the best historian teacher I have listened. I live in Florida near to Orlando. If by a chance you are going to give a lecture or class over there , please let me know.

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you! I'll be sure to do that!

[@yoelsitico]

Thanks you so much

[@jgvtc559]

My only want that you never produce or let us see is the class asking questions and you answering the lessons themselves are perfectly made but if you added a q and a itd be beyond phenomenal

[@GoreBruce]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@gt_n1722]

These videos are very helpful to understanding the Biblical history. So grateful 🙏

[@GoreBruce]

Thank you, brother, I appreciate it.

[@ericmartin1968]

Hello Bruce, I am an avid watcher of your series of videos. I was just in Heraklion, Crete and got to visit Knossos. The guide who was with us said that the origin of the Minoans is unsure but it is not believed that they were even Indo-European, hence they can't be said to be part of Greek history/civilization, although many of their myths have entered Greek mythology.

[@claytonbenignus4688]

I would have liked a mention of The Septuagint, although it may be better mentioned during a lecture on Alexandrian Egypt.

[@GoreBruce]

Good point. Thanks!

[@GHST995]

Greece is the perfect blend of beautiful ocean, 1000s of years of history, and amazing food. You could spend a month on Kreta (crete) alone and not see everything.

[@alonsomiguellozanoaumne5668]

Bruce what about the book of job? How does it fit in this historical context of the Bible series?

[@GoreBruce]

The date of the events recorded in Job remain highly debated among scholars with little consensus. There is no reliable external evidence to suggest a time-frame for the story. I claim no special insight into the matter. I treat the Book of Job as history of uncertain timing, but valuable for its profound content.

[@dcrunicycles]

Thank you

[@samandeli3424]

A few years back, God showed me that the 3rd Kingdom in Nebuchadnezzar's dream is Grecian knowledge. It blew me away at how total that kingdom is over the minds of men, esp. in western culture. Hmmmmm.

[@Spark_Iskra_z_Polski]

The kingdom is the kingdom. It brings about some culture with itself but it does not need to be adopted. The west is fed on Greek and Roman culture because this is what our elites chose for our education but we might just as well have a more general education dealing with Indian or Chinese or African culture. These are to some extent political choices I think.

[@mrnoedahl]

I have a question for you Mr. Gore. What is the number one purpose of marriage?

[@GoreBruce]

From Genesis 1 I gather that God intended that a man and a woman should be joined to reflect the image of God.

[@mrnoedahl]

@@GoreBruce You are absolutely correct. Ephesians 5:31,32 31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. To reflect the image of and love of Christ and His church.

[@scullyfox4271]

How do you know so much? 🙂 This is my favorite bible teaching channel on the internet!

[@the_watcher_abc]

Greek history doesn’t stop with the Hellenistic period. Equally important, the Ptolemaic, the Roman and the Byzantine all have huge implications for Christianity around the world and particularly in Europe, Africa and the Near East. Yet, in the West the most important and most direct connections to the Greek world are forgotten or ignored.

[@EdwardTheMedievalist]

Please suggest these books that connects the Biblical narrative disasters and history.

[@GoreBruce]

My book addresses those issues in some detail. www.amazon.com/Historical-Chronological-Context-Bible-Bruce/dp/1426943598/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=bruce+gore&qid=1554404010&s=gateway&sr=8-1

[@EdwardTheMedievalist]

@@GoreBruce Appreciate it.

[@susanmcdonald6879]

I am also interested in ancient history, and am a student of history with no achieved upper degrees; however, it has been my lifelong study with a bachelors degree in the study of history as well as upper degree work in the field including historiographical studies. I only mention this because it does not appear that you have history degrees? and I know how complex history can be! but alas, perhaps yours is in theology or master of liberal arts although your info does not go on to say exactly what. I also see from your website that you believe the world began in 4,000 BC? is this correct? I am going to listen to this lecture with these things in mind and with all the respect since I can see you have carefully studied & given of your time faithfully, although I believe your dating system of biblical events may be way off such as the Exodus, which I believe most historians place moses' death some time after 1200 BC after the great Egyptian & Hittite empires had worn themselves out....leaving room for the Canaanites & Hebrews to come forward as minor empires & founding of kingship & Jersualem... But I am sure you will avoid the "Athens or Jerusalem" question, as the NT was written entirely in Greek, I will be anxious to hear your summary of ancient Greece. But I am afraid of disappointingly inaccuracies in most Christians' inability to free themselves from literalism of Biblical rewritten & translated texts! whereas the Sumerian, Hittite, Egyptian records are primary sources (clay tablets & monuments). The fact that we are all using this internet technology cannot even closely be attributed to any Hebrew contributions on that level, but rather to the Greeks & Hellenization of places like Alexandria including jews at later times who wrote the Bible or put it in its final form. To believe that earlier civilizations contributed nothing including the "Yahweh" notions from the Sinai tribes during their wanderings and other monotheistic notions especially in Egypt, or of Sargon who also was delivered in a basket to be raised in a palace & become kind, or the earlier Sumerian story of birds sent out from an ark after a great flood, that they had no influences on later oral histories & writings done much later by Canaanites/Hebrews .... you would be an apologetic and teacher of the worst kind, one unable to see what has risen from the dead (archaeology) and blinded by your own wish to literalize a great book, but one which MUST be viewed properly & historically as well as spiritually.... this, like evolutionary theories should not affect our beliefs at all! and when they do, it is the worst kind of evil to betray Truth....

[@GoreBruce]

I'll only mention that I don't take any position on the 'date' of creation. My biblical chronology focuses on post-flood events. As to the date of the Exodus, there has been robust debate among scholars on the date, with more naturalistic thinkers committed to the later.

[@svm3224]

How/why did the term "Cretan", which even the apostle Paul mentions, come to be pejorative?

[@aclark903]

Alex is named in #Maccabees.

[@dlbard1]

@18:02 "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts". I found that very humorous!

[@VredesStall]

Consider how after the first "Great War" of the Late Bronze Age (The Trojan War) the Greeks (aka, the Aegeans) experience a great "Dark Age" that lasted for a few hundred years until about the Poetic Age. Strange, then... how the Hellenistic Greeks would experience the "Philosophic Age" (following the great Hellenistic "Civil War" ie, The Peloponnesian War) that mirrored the great Dark-Age following the Trojan War.

[@averyjeromekelly5735]

Don't forget the cry, "Thalassa" during the Xenophon crucible, Anabasis

[@SY-jq4yw]

America loves power of wealth.

[@lukefromdenver7609]

43:30 "There are no philosopher kings" ... You just went over Cyrus, dude. You just told us all about how that's possible. And the solution, Dr. GORE, is to turn everyone into a philosopher king! You would know. Look at you go!

[@marcusmees4625]

Thera = Santorini ? Reed Sea passage = tsunami? Miracle confirmed?

[@ram09568]

Jeremiah 16:14-21

[@zhizhi9138]

What is connection between God and Good? What is came first? Very similar words, with only one O missing. And if God = Good then Bad = ????

[@GoreBruce]

The words are similar, but I'm not aware of any connection besides an accident of language.

[@inbox24]

God = good , Devil = evil

[@miroslav6702]

what does 'indo-european' even mean?

[@GoreBruce]

If you are really interested, I recommend "In Search of the Indo-Europeans" by Mallory. www.amazon.com/Search-Indo-Europeans-J-P-Mallory/dp/0500276161/ref=sr_1_1?crid=194BZAHEDNAUE&keywords=in+search+of+the+indo+europeans&qid=1690807930&sprefix=in+search+of+the+indo+eur%2Caps%2C677&sr=8-1

[@mrnoedahl]

I love this guy. We need to have him cloned; and sent to every school.

[@marcusmees4625]

Error on your map: Crimea is labelled "Bosporus"

[@__prometheus__]

Maybe he meant Bosphoran Kingdom?

[@aisuru-is-a-boss]

The ROMANS have NEVER left 😊 😉. THEY'RE SEATED AT THE HEAD OF THE TABLE TODAY 😏.

[@jameswells554]

Aaaaah Socrates; who so famously queried "I drank what?".

[@agrotta1650]

Messina's are the Mycenaens/Massinians/Messinians the Helots slaves of the Spartans. I'm a Messina. Our Messina was from Casaluce, Caserta, Campania, Italy.

[@marysylvie2012]

Plato was an aristocrat brat. It is a shame that we have so much esteem for him. As for Socrates he never wrote anything. What Plato reports of him can just be a bunch of lies. Xenophon also writes about Socrates and in his writings, Socrates is almost completely different from the one depicted by Plato, the aristocrat brat.

[@GoreBruce]

There have been many 'aristocratic brats' in history. Few have maintained the serious interest of some of the greatest intellects in the world for 4000 years.

[@GatheringJacob]

Bruce Gore people pick and choose any philosophy that bolsters there world view.

[@michaelwoods4495]

"Next week I want to zero in on the career of Alexander..." Did he drink himself to death as some maintain? Well, he was known as Alexander the Grape.

[@syrenaxhaferi7278]

in other words they made a monster child, the minetaur ...

[@stephanievegter5438]

🇿🇦♥️

[@Okieshowedem]

How many understand that as long as YAHshua was alive in His physical body His apostles His mother His brothers call YAHshua by that Name. Father YAHweh gave YAHshua a NEW NAME like the Scriptures said He would. Slow down and read this from your own copy of the Scriptures. Hebrews 1:4 King James Version (KJV) 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as He ( YAHshua ) has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Praise Father YAHweh!

[@alcoholfree6381]

Interesting to me, what you are saying. What is the point that you are trying to make?? Are you Jewish, Christian, Muslim, or something else. You have posted several times but what point you are making is opaque to me. What are you attempting to show? Thanks for your participation!

[@Okieshowedem]

@@alcoholfree6381 Just following the Messiah's advice telling folks that the TRUTH will MAKE you FREE!

[@davidlloyd1750]

The Theory, that the Exodus plagues of Egypt were caused by a volcano, is Ludacris, why? Because, I would like to know of all the volcanoes that erupted, including Mount Saint Helen, that caused anything close to the biblical Exodus, and the reason that they don't disagree with the Bible, is that they found Egyptian papyrus writings that described the plagues, so you have another source, besides the Bible describing this Event, also other evidence, that supports the Bible; you know what it is? Believers accept it, and atheists reject it, but the real Truth is, those people, places, and events happened, but the devil uses anything, and anyone to keep you ignorant of the real Truth, that Jesus Saves us.

[@GoreBruce]

I don't necessarily endorse the view myself, but the theory has been defended fairly credibly by Ian Wilson (Exodus, The True Story, Harper and Row) www.amazon.com/Exodus-Story-Behind-Biblical-Account/dp/0062509691/ref=sr_1_1?crid=28NFRO51AA6BU&keywords=ian+wilson+exodus&qid=1666961615&sprefix=ian+wilson+exodus%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1

[@davidlloyd1750]

@@GoreBruce Give me a credible reason as to why? That makes you lean toward this theory from this book, short, and simple,, please.

[@albertrexhepaj8330]

HELLENIKH=HILLINIKH MEANING OF THE NAME, ALBANIAN HILLINIKH=HYLLI NJESH, INGLISH HILLINIKH=STAR ONE, GREK HILLINIKH=ASTERI ENA, HILLINIKH IS WORD OF ALBANIAN LANGUAGE.

[@brenatobrenato6797]

Keta akoma vazhdojne me historin artificiale qia ropt

[@Dimitris_Gr.]

Stop being jealous and enjoy the video Of Greece🇬🇷

[@leokal2383]

@ albert rexhepaj Dear friend , there is no such word "HELLENIKH" as you say it is "Ελληνική" , there is no also this kind of etymology you 're trying to present, there are rules in etymology which you have to follow to present where a word is coming from and you can't use other alphabets to find similarities. That 's not making any sense, and Albanian language is a mix of Illiric, Latin, Greek, Slavic and Turkish words, so what are you trying to say exactly?

[@tirandaz7612]

Amazing! This man displays some knowledge of Egyptian history yet simply ignores the origin of 'Greek" learning.

[@nicksklavos]

Πολύ λυπηρό, που εκσφενδονίζει στην Ελληνική ιστορία, εβραϊκή μύθολογία ως ιστορική, ενώ έχει απομυθοποιηθεί 40 χρόνια τώρα. Με Argumentum ad nauseam δεν μπορεί να κάνεις ιστορική - με το έτσι θέλω - μια Ελληνοεβραϊκή "παραγωγή" του 5ου, 4ου και 3ου αιώνων πΚΕ.

[@gregdanielson9086]

I love and appreciate all of Bruce Gore's teachings, but Jesus' cross and Him crucified and the sinless blood He shed for us does not represent His holiness for us, rather it presents us holy, which means there is a work we need to do after we confess and repent of our sins, which is to preserve ourselves holy (1 Thess. 5: 23).

[@nikolastefanov8645]

HE VAS MACEDONIJAN AND NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GREEKS .GREEKS EXISTE FROM 1823.

[@ioannispapaioannou6797]

Stupid slav

[@ioannispapaioannou6797]

You Skopians cut the drugs

[@Simonjose7258]

Minoans weren't Greek nor were they even early proto-Greek. Period full stop. (Edit: they did leave a lasting influence on the region but they weren't closely related to later Greeks.)

[@albertrexhepaj8330]

ALEXANDROY MEANING OF THE NAME, ALBANIAN ALEXANDROY=ALE XAN TROY, INGLISH ALEXANDROY=GREAT CONQUEROR, GREK ALEXANDROY=MEGALO KATAKTITIS, ALEXANDROY IS WORD OF ALBANIAN LANGUAGE.

[@gradskiselanec4796]

2019 year make statue for Aleksandar king of Macedonia , Greeks never before made statues in Athena because they know very good what Philip and Aleksandar done after defeat Helen.That is same lake Bosnian to make statue in Sarajevo for Serbian Veljko Raznatovic son of Zeljko Razjnatovic Arkan because his soldiers rippe Bosnian women in Bosnian war 1992, same done Philip the king of Macedon with Greek women in Athena and Sparta,and burning bought city to the ground (Greeks know that very well) and now mangroves Greeks make statue for the ripper ) and Celebrates! Congratulations! Greeks know that and that way was shamed to make statue before, now selebrate ripper on Greek women If you have problems speak with Greek government, they know all stories and really history and word Macedonian was penalized before 1988 year , they was thinking Macedonian will go forgotten in history covered with Yugoslavian nationality. All world knows.Greece wants Aegean Macedonia territory that way they make name disputed

[@zubairahmed9471]

Jesus never died on a cross he was taken up to the heavens and will be sent back during the end times he was a prophet just like abraham, moses, solomon, joseph ,david and as such the last prophet is muhammad(s.a.w) please think about this and just give a look at what islam and quran says...

[@gradskiselanec4796]

Greeks make statue for Aleksandar king of Macedon in Athena in 2019 year . That is same lake Bosnian to make statue in Sarajevo for Serbian Veljko Raznatovic son of Zeljko Razjnatovic Arkan because his soldiers ripped Bosnian women in Bosnian war 1992, same done Philip the king of Macedon with Greek women in Athena and Sparta,and burning bought city to the ground (Greeks know that very well) and now mangroves Greeks make statue for the wriper) and Celebrates! Congratulations! Greeks know that and that way was shamed to make statue before, now Greeks selebrate wriper on Greek women If you have problems speak with Greek government, they know all stories and really history and word Macedonian was penalized in Greece before 1988 year , they was thinking Macedonian will go forgotten in history covered with Yugoslavian nationality.. They even today want to despair Macedonia and Macedonians with false history.

[@ioannispapaioannou6797]

Slav stop writing and listen the professor

[@gradskiselanec4796]

@@ioannispapaioannou6797 professor Egyptian Sub Saharan Gypsy, better learn African history from where you coming on Balkan

[@gradskiselanec4796]

@@Dimitris_Gr. I’m surprised how Greeks come to stage to celebrate Aleksandar and Philip who killed thousands Athininians and Spartans and ripped all women in Athena and Sparta, I thing Greeks tomorrow will celebrate ottoman sultans they was doing some what Philip and Aleksandar did

[@gradskiselanec4796]

@@Dimitris_Gr. Greeks never was in BC time, first time Greeks is mentioned 1830, and that is mentioned from anglosacsons and Germans and France to mixed Macedonians and Hellenic people lake same people under Greeks, that falsified history Greece paid 400 billion dollars and come to bankruptcy, and will paid to America and England, Germany and France maybe next minimum 50-100 years to have support, Americans not doing nothing for free!

[@gradskiselanec4796]

@@Dimitris_Gr. Please use right words, in Aleksandar time Greeks no exist, was Athenians and Spartans or Hellenic people, All this with Greeks make anglosacsons and western world country and America to falsified history for Macedonians . If they talk Hellenic and Macedonians will be two different nations to falsified history’s they change Hellenic with Greeks and make Hellenic and Macedonians one nation under Greeks lake same nationality , and falsifying with Wikipedia , show original documents from 350 year BC , This is all talking bullshit

[@tirandaz7612]

They cannot get away from the guilt trip to sell Jesus.