2400 FPS 10MM! Liberty Civil Defense 10mm vs .45acp +P! Ballistic Gel & Chronograph Testing!

[@precisionmarksman5761]

Everyone always marvels about the 5.7x28 40gr going 1950fps out of a 5" FN 57, but that 10mm 60gr does much faster with 2340fps!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep!

[@chalfrmthaeast]

5.7 definitely goes 2400fps also

[@lm1174]

Or Ruger 57 " 5 "

[@tomboehlke9480]

FK BRNO 7.5 for the win in energy!!!!! and distance accuracy???? JMHO

[@Paradox3713]

The FN SS-197s in 40gr only go about 1700fps. They are pretty watered down. Only the SS-195/198 get close to 2000fps. Get you so Elite Ammunition and those numbers come way up, even with their 40gr rounds.

[@rouchenelvann]

It’s crazy how the 10 mm is moving at speeds fast enough to cause hydrostatic shock APART from any fragmentation. That’s CRAZY! I’m buying some of these 10 mm rounds asapmediately!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, literally faster than most of my AK rounds.😆

[@themanhimself3]

Plus it goes right through soft 3a

[@Smartphone-pl8ix]

9mm and upper from liberty ammo cause hydrostatic shock. Not just the 10mm

[@ccoop2416]

Just so people know that was 635 for the .45 and 729 for the 10 mil ft/lbs of energy

[@bignspicy984]

That's better than 5.56 out of a 10ish inch barrel. OUT OF A GLOCK.

[@joehelvey5794]

No question about it, the 10mm trumps em all in my book. Outperform the venerable .357mag, and carryin 16 in a stock 15rd g20 mag. Yes Sir, that’s my sword, an I’m stickin with it. “Say g’night Gracie.”

[@ToolsandTargets]

Amen!

[@MM_405]

Absolute freaking YES!!!! 10mm is King for an everyday cartridge!

[@ryanranard5187]

😂🙄

[@closer71]

Nah. 10mm is a great round but...outperforms .357 mag??? No, not generally speaking.

[@MM_405]

@@closer71 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ someone needs to do some more research, how about go to ballistics 101 and tell me again how over 3/4 of 10MM manufactured ammunition is putting 357 to shame.

[@thomasjefferson4662]

I once saw a video of a guy firing those 10mm liberty defense out of a 10mm carbine he was at 2800 to 2900 fps. Thats one hell of a round tools is great for showing the ballistic gel tests. HARD WORKING MAN for sure.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely some speedy stuff!

[@eddieweigel9490]

The energy dump from that 10 mm was devastating

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mhmm

[@TheJHMAN1]

I am firm believer in having as much energy dumped in your target over penetration. With over penetration you have excess energy and danger to those around the target. Both of these rounds dump really fast. It is scary to imagine the bone fragments from a chest shot or how these would liquefy a gut shot.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Gut soup

[@stephenclark6961]

For 2 legged threats, energy dump is what you want, for 4 legged threats, you want to carry that energy as deep as possible. I usually carry a 10mm for both, Underwood Lehigh defenders for 2 legs, Buffalo Bore hard cast for 4 legs.

[@frustratedmajority851]

​@@stephenclark6961you beat me. 10mm is my favorite pistol round. There's a round for low penetration and a round for maximum penetration. 10mm has the best selection for the job

[@sergiogiron3659]

That over head view of that 10mm looked crazy. It would cause so much damage. What a great video. I need to go get a 10mm now. Don’t tell the wife. Lol

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I'll never tell!

[@VikingVic76]

My G20sf is a smooth shooting hand cannon!

[@RealtyPro7]

I was just back checking some numbers on this video for the weight of the small discs that made it to roughly the 12” mark. Saw a few people mention that it was time to buy a 10mm lol. Hope you did pick one up this past year. Best mm 🏆

[@michaelrogers4285]

Holy Ammo Batman !!!! That was awesome power, and another great test 💥👍 I like the 10 mm best

[@clutchcargo1239]

I liked the .45ACP in the jell, a more controlled separation of the bullet fragments. That 10mm was like an explosion... Would not want to be hit by either one.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Amen to that!

[@timrobertson299]

Both rounds moving very quick, I was was especially impressed with the speed increase of the 45 ACP round as they are notoriously slow yet hard hitting rounds, good testing as usual

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Crazy speeds outta these things.💥💨

[@onpsxmember]

With the weight reduced to half of a regular 9mm, sure.

[@timothyprice9064]

@@onpsxmember Performance on target should be what counts. If it gets the job done with less recoil all the better.

[@angfabiani4284]

@@onpsxmember yeah I thought the whole point of the 45 was the big heavy bullet part

[@onpsxmember]

@@angfabiani4284 The big upside is that it can be slower while the weight adds to the energy and that's why some military groups like them still for muffler use (evaded all correct term BS^^). Some argue that it doesn't have to expand cause it already has a bigger cross-section. A lot of calbers can work out fine. Shot placement will always be King.

[@MATTP545]

Wow those fragmenting rounds to me are the scariest. With every piece straying off it just seems like it would increase the probability of striking something it really shouldn't and increasing the severity of the wound.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Like little vessel seeking missiles! 💀

[@mikes8915]

Or striking something it should

[@MATTP545]

@@mikes8915 You are right....thanks for the correction

[@mikes8915]

@@MATTP545 lol depends on what end you're on

[@lambdabear8494]

Best way to drop somebody as fast as possible imo. Just nuke the bad guy's insides, something is gonna hit and break the spine/pelvis

[@adonikam1]

I'll stick with conventional ammo. The velocity of the 10mm is enough to surpass the threshold to permanently tear human flesh beyond the temporary stretch cavity. In other words it's like a rifle round at close distance. MAGSAFE has fragmenting rounds that are filled with bird shot and epoxy which are very devastating. I'm still sticking with my 230g +p 45acp hollow points. Another EXCELLENT EXCELLENT VIDEO..

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. These specialty rounds are cool, but gimme that big ol hunk of lead!😎👍

[@absolute99proof]

I just want to say thank you. I appreciate how much work you put into bringing some good content. Especially with the work you have to put into melting and setting up the gels for the tests. I get why you use them for several tests. I would be the same way. Kudos Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

really appreciate that. I'm definitely gonna keep churning out the videos!😎

[@bullfrogjay4383]

Between 10mm and 45 ACP I would choose 45 ACP just because I like 45 and the segmented pieces are bigger but there is no doubt that 10mm is an absolute monster of a round. Can't go wrong with either round no doubt. I am gonna pick up some of these rounds after seeing this test. Really impressive !

[@ToolsandTargets]

Some crazy stuff for sure.

[@rickyjohnson9594]

10 mm smokes ,a,45. It wount go Thur a llla vest or glass 44 mag wount and 357 sig all fall short I seen a 10 mm go Thur over five foot gel all as to what u feed it but beleave me a 10 mm beats all the about in power Ventura extreme defense ammco or pentrater types go Thur level llla boby armor with a 10 mm 45 falls over test

[@bullfrogjay4383]

@@rickyjohnson9594 I'm not worried about body armor. Neither was that guy who stopped a church shooting with one shot from a 357 Sig to the dome.

[@CrashRacknShoot]

@@rickyjohnson9594 first day typing?

[@rocknraptor3195]

729 FOOT POUNDS, nuff said!!! If, you can make "the shot" with these the job is done! Game over! Call the morgue!! Ten for the win!

[@nicholasthomas4382]

Honestly, I own the 10mm Liberty, and it is far better for 3A penetration and energy, but objectively I like the wounding of the 45ACP better in this load. Wider, deeper track with useful fragmentation, each fragment being heavy enough to create separate wound tracks, where as the 10mm basically explodes on impact and the nose of the bullet turns to dust.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Good points.👍

[@DB-sd3cw]

Mediocre wound cavity and shallow penetration.

[@aidankirby8412]

Dude, youre talking millimeters difference in width. A big nothing burger. Penetration is better with 10mm. 10mm has More Energy at 100 meters than 45acp at the barrel. Thats all you need to know.

[@nicholasthomas4382]

@@aidankirby8412 I'm referring to the Liberty load specifically, obviously in pretty much every other load 10mil smokes 45.

[@d.hayward5232]

​@@nicholasthomas4382 You said in both posts EXACTLY how I felt about this test. Using only this ammo, I'd choose the .45 for the exact same reason. Using something like traditional HST or Gold Dot, I'd pick the 10mm.

[@robertharing7031]

Dang they rocked your gel block pretty hard and made some very interesting holes to put it mildly thanks for sharing your test I don’t own either caliber but I can certainly appreciate the devastation of 10mm & 45 acp

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, after watching the skow mo shot, they definitely made the jelly dance!

[@RealtyPro7]

This is an older video and post, but hoping that in the past year you gave into temptation and picked up a 10mm! Or both. I have and like almost all calibers whether handgun or rifle, but 10mm is really a great round for either defense or hunting. One of the most versatile because one (properly built) gun can do so many jobs by swapping ammo. These light ones have less penetration and recoil, others have more standard carry performance, plus many great hunting rounds. And the big slow heavy ones for suppressor use. It’s become my main edc these days.

[@Halfmilesniper]

Both of those rounds are moooving, Interesting stuff Tools. Hope you're healing quick.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Healin up super fast. I did a bunch of testing yesterday and rubbed some powder and dirt in the burns to speed up the process!😆

[@kevinramsey3490]

Very good video! I've always wondered about this ammo. By the way, I really appreciate you not using vulgarity. That makes your videos a lot better than a lot of other people's.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Really appreciate that!😎👊

[@kevinramsey3490]

You're gonna have to drop that sir thing 😁. I'm just an old country boy from Kentucky about 20 miles from the Tennessee border. I originally am a Eastern Kentucky guy. I tend to use sir and ma'am a lot too, so I'm just cutting up with you 😉

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@kevinramsey3490 😆😆😆

[@kevinramsey3490]

@@ToolsandTargets 🤣🤣

[@MrMann-gt1eh]

@@kevinramsey3490I call my 3 and 4 year old girls ma’am. 😂 They’d better call me sir! We respect EVERYONE in our house and even to the disrespectful we give Grace because Grace was given unto us. I’m always amazed at how many hearts are changed in the hard hearted when you respond to their disrespect with Grace.

[@MitchC357]

As you know I have been waiting for this test for a while. It did not let me down. Reminds me of the Glaser Safety Slug. Fast speed, fragmentation and devastating energy. Overpenetration would not be a problem. And imagine the trauma surgeon trying to deal with that wound. Only thing I wonder is did the light weight affect point of aim? I like these rounds. Seems even better than the modern version of the black talon rounds you recently reviewed. I think these rounds could really make a .380 work. Thanks for doing this test. I am going to get some of these in different calibers. Also these rounds are lightweight. The boxes of ammo feel like they are empty. A great test

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. After I watched the slow motion of the gel, I was definitely impressed. It rocked the jelly!

[@Jez.Von.Franco]

Impressive velocity,especially the 45 . Thanks for the vid 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

It is some crazy fast stuff.

[@unclefreedom213]

Civil defense is nuts I have done gel and soft armor testing with the 9mm. Just crazy hot and fast and will eat up IIIA

[@ToolsandTargets]

It is some crazy stuff for sure. That 10mm speed is insane.

[@tomsrandomness]

Keep pumping them out brother you and whoteewhoo are some hard working dudes

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that my friend.😎

[@rocknraptor3195]

10mm @ 729 ft\lb!!!💥💪 That's more than any of them I've seen so far, & don't expect anything to beat it! I've got some 9mm already & I'll be picking up some for my Colt 1911 10mm! When i can afford em bc the 9s weren't cheap so im sure the 10s are really pricey.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Crazy speed from this stuff.

[@garyp1672]

Just came across this ammo in my local gun shop. I couldn't believe the speeds of this stuff. Thanks to Tool, I'm now a believer.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Funny, I actually picked up some more this week to try out.😎👍

[@LuckyDog350X]

Man those are some hot hot loads, with all these different devastating defense rounds it is a bad time to be a bad guy! You said in this video your gel is gonna be angry with you after this test and that it's gonna have to take one for the team, well it certainly got you back in a bad way lol. Have a good on my friend and I will see you on the next one.

[@ToolsandTargets]

LOL, I was thinking the same thing as I was editing this. The gel got it's revenge!😂😂😂

[@jbdub08]

Great video! Both rounds seem very effective. I would like to see a tiny bit more penetration out of the 10mm fragments though. On a large individual with thick layers on, those fragments are gonna start running out of steam in a hurry. By the time you get through a jacket, a shirt, and an inch or two of skin and fat, that doesn't leave a whole lot of room left for actual organ damage. Seems like a bullet that would benefit greatly from an extra 10-15 grains.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir! I would definitely trade a little bit of the speed for a little more weight.👍

[@bly4233]

Nope. Keep the speed up. Exceeding 2200fps exceeds the elasticity of the human body, tearing tissue far from the bullet’s path. Like a rifle.

[@bobg.8954]

I'm like you, It's awful close. The wound channel looks bigger on the 10mm tho, so I'm going to pick the 10mm! Great test! I've been waiting for this one!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. They're some pretty crazy rounds.

[@timshelley8635]

Interesting results! Good work. I've been wondering about these, especially in 9mm. Was curious about a gel test with this ammo. Thanks Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@choppermike3329]

Wow. That 10mm looks like a grenade went off. That would be a lot of fun for a doctor to remove those fragments. Those higher velocity rounds are devastating. Either round is awesome! Heal up soon!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. A lotta damage!

[@almaadams3631]

It might be fun for the coroner, the doctor will just pronounce DOA.

[@phillhuddleston9445]

Often if a bullet or fragment from one is not in a position to cause harm they are just left in place, it does more harm than good removing them.

[@kentwilliams4152]

Years ago (1980’s) the Kentucky State Police adopted a cartridge from France for executive protection. It was called the “Arcane” round and averaged 2400 feet per second from our 4” barreled S&W Model-66 .357 Magnum’s. The projectile weighed 45 grains and was composed of copper. What was particularly interesting to me was that it printed POA = POI at 50 yards.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice. Crazy that you can get rifle speeds out of handguns and still maintain that level of accuracy.

[@charlesmullins3238]

KSP loves me so much that every time I see them they write me a certificate…glad I use the magic eraser for those as ins is high enuff as it is..

[@daniell4501]

Since I live in NC, I know how you are feeling each time you mention the weather. I feel your pain. 1 reason I always give you a like .

[@feliciae1711]

Another jelly test in the books! Those are some fast rounds right there!! I would go with the 45 just because I like that round and I have that Rock Island like you 👍🏼 keep up the good work Tools! Glad to see your hands are healing!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you ma'am. I like the bigger fragments of the .45 but the explosion that 10mm did was crazy too. Tough call for me on this one.💥💨

[@TerryDactyl-r8n]

Immmm-Pressive!!!! Wow! Ammo technology has come a long way. I own both 10mm and .45 ACP handguns. It's nice to see that there is spectacularly-performing ammo for both calibers. My home defense gun is my 10MM Colt Delta Elite stoked with Buffalo Bore 21B/20 Heavy 10mm 180 Gr. JHP (1350 FPS/728 Ft.-Lbs). I feel sorry for the poor, misguided soul who breaks into my home 😮

[@ryand5041]

Regular HP surgeon goes in knows exactly how many pedals he needs to find. These reminds me of a 5.56, surgeon is so going to be pissed when he gets into that wound. Just like its a nightmare to clean out of the jelly. And that speed man those are going to hit real quick and in a hurry. I like both of them for sure would be great round to have. I've had my eye on these thank you sir for the experiment and your time.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. I wouldn't wanna have to clean this out of some guts. Appreciate you watching!

[@PomonaD3]

Absolutely correct and just imagine 5 or 6 of those can’t tell me they don’t get the job done…

[@rjhelmick3381]

Good stuff Wildman 👏 but I wasn't impressed with the devastation of these 2 high speed rounds. I would like two you to test these same 2 guns using their regular hollow point bullets in normal weight range of 230 and 180 grain hollow points of you choice. Thanks for all the time you put in to do these test for us. Stay frosty, its go time.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I can definitely do that. Appreciate you brother.😎👊

[@absolute99proof]

Wow.... just wow.... I'd like to get that in 45acp. But that 10mm starburst was looney tunes!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, the speeds on these things are nuts!

[@dkmgm2011]

I appreciate your dedication to unbiased testing. Any chance of revisiting these loads on the heavy clothing test?

[@andywilson8698]

Man ,your really putting in some work tool!!! Great video !!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you bigtime!

[@divinegracehealing8653]

I carry the .45 rounds in my HK45C, makes the firearm much lighter to carry than 230 GR ball rounds and the effect is clearly devastating. FBI says you need like 15" of penetration but the real effect of these rounds are cumulative, being that the .45 has 5 wound channels, 4 of them being 4-6" and one at 12". This would be a massive disturbance to anything struck. I'm planning on trying some of these out on my High Point .45 Carbine against a pig to see how they fair. Also, it appears to me that these rounds could be pushed a little faster, at least another 100 FPS, for added shock and awe.

[@ToolsandTargets]

They are some nasty rounds for sure!

[@bullfrogjay4383]

"Massive disturbance to anything struck" Well put ! These rounds are no joke

[@Donald_R_DeCicco]

That stuff is wild😲. I've Never seen any projectile come out like that. KZbin up to their crazy stuff again they turnt my notifications off smh. Nice video bro, i still gotta stick with the .45👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

The speed on these things were nuts! I know you're a .45 guy!😎👍

[@BustedGeezerGarage]

I really got a charge out of the tests. I would use the 45acp since I already own a Colt 1911. I was thinking of getting a 10mm until I saw these tests. That plate that was left over from the 45 was impressively larger then the 10. Another thing I noticed was the pistol recoil seemed minimal compared to a 230 grain + p blast. Great video. 1st time watcher.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I really appreciate you checking it out. The recoil was definitely super light compared to some heavy hitters.👍

[@RichiesHouse]

The 45 ammo cycles in all my 45s . Nothing else comes close .

[@keithmaxwell2169]

Been waiting for Somebody to test these they are Both Heavy Hitters but Hard to Find and Expensive, Thanks Tool's good Test Stay Safe

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya brother. These things are wicked!

[@ytrefugee113]

Dam those are some fast moving 'horse pills'! 👍 Great tests and outstanding performance from both rounds!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I was amazed at how fast this stuff is.😲

[@ploxplox1109]

man those are some nice round and FAST might need to get some for my 45acp. great vid

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Crazy how fast these things are.

[@osprey46]

one shot stop with no collateral damage. having used a 220gr 10mm irl, 1 shot, center mass, got 5 inches of penetration in the stand behind guy. . i shot 2 kia. not a good high density situation solution. i will take the 60gr at 2300+fps, neighbors are safe. great demo!

[@rsbreeze]

10mm = Thor's Hammer

[@ToolsandTargets]

It was like a bomb went off!💥💣💥

[@jeffreyrobertson7652]

Great Jelly Test Tools both of them are awesome Rounds Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you brother. They're some fancy rounds for sure.

[@paulscountry456]

Well over mach 2 on that 10 ,goodness that would make a mess,I can't see anyone surviving a center shot from that 10 in a defensive situation.....

[@ToolsandTargets]

I was blown away at how fast it was moving. That's as fast as my AK47.😳

[@tacticalfirearms45]

Crazy stuff man . Real Impressive

[@ToolsandTargets]

The speeds are nuts for sure.💥💨

[@tacticalfirearms45]

@@ToolsandTargets 🔥

[@eduardovillalon7496]

Thanks for the video! Definitely, I’m staying with Underwood ammo: by far the best I have ever used.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. Appreciate you watching!

[@keithtate1241]

Both the 10mm and the 45ACP seems to have done an incredible job. It does seem to me that the 45 did more damage over a slightly larger area. It was however a close contest and I wouldn't want to be hit with either 😁

[@ToolsandTargets]

The speeds on these things were unreal.

[@javier7717]

That 10mm destroyed it, holy shit, looking at the wound. Dam tools, you destroyed the jelly. 🤣🤣🤣

[@ToolsandTargets]

It really did. This was the last test I did before I melted it down and got burnt by it. Maybe it was getting revenge for this!

[@Zfirearms]

Another great video, It was very interesting, especially as a .45 guy, people are always poking fun that it’s an old, slow round, but I just like it, nice to see it win a ballistics competition finally 😂. I’m curious about the recoil you felt from these 2 rounds compared to standard factory loads? Keep up the great work Matt

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I was blown away by the speeds of these rounds. The recoil was much lighter than a standard weight bullet for these and It also had a very unique sound.

[@fishhunt9874]

The 45s penetration and delayed fragmentation was due to it’s passing through the hole made by the previously shot 9mm. A second shot through the 45 in virgin gel was warranted.

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@fishhunt9874 It definitely didn't follow the same path as that 9mm shot. If you look closely, you can clearly see this. It had it's own independent path and wound channel 100% of the way.

[@fishhunt9874]

@@ToolsandTargets Copy. I must not have paid careful enough attention as you described the shot placement of the 45.

[@leederby136]

Those rounds are amazing fast, and the frag hit would have pulverized anybody! The only defensive rounds I can get here are Federal HST or Hornady Critical Defense. I do order up various hollow points for reloading, but I can’t test them like you do. Hope your hands are healing up OK. Appreciate all the work you do!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that brother. Healin up pretty fast surprisingly. I have quite a few rounds I wanna get loaded up to test myself. I just gotta find some time.😣

[@ratagris21]

These did quite well - frag grenade in a pistol round. These do deliver the goods. Won't want to be on the receiving end of things. Excellent testing and shooting Tools!!!🎩☯️♠️🏁

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. The velocity is nuts!

[@ratagris21]

@@ToolsandTargets Yw sir and yes it is.

[@mattolfson9230]

I was concerned there would be just a massive overpenetratio with those bullets going that fast. But no! They just explode for the most part, and not too deeply. Personally I'd opt for the 10mm, because I read that projectiles that go faster than 22000 fps cause massive damage from the temporary cavity exceeding the flesh's ability to snap back from, resulting in one hell of an enhanced permanent wound. That's what makes the 5.56mm so effective despite it's small size and weight.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir. It's making permanent disruption!

[@clwomble]

22,000 fps, holy shit!!!

[@KevinBlankenship-p6m]

I have a 45 Springfield XD and use 45 super rounds in it and they move at 1050 - 1100 fps with 255 grain HardCast Underwoods. Awesome round with no real noticeable difference in recoil just a slight snappier. I use them for Grizzly defense as a sidearm backup when Elk hunting. I do not understand why 45 ACP just didn't all switch to those Super Rounds and beef up their springs and feed ramps (chamber lower support) for 1911 Models Pistols. Makes the 45 near 44 mag power levels just a couple hundred fps slower.

[@mountainhobo]

I may be off by a bit, but what is that 10mm's sectional density? 0.05? Something close to that, I think. At that speed, it will pretty much explode on impact whatever it hits. I think I would rather use regular hollow points in both 10mm and .45.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah this stuff is wicked but it's really hard to say if it's better than regular HP's

[@MilesLong556x69]

These liberty rounds are a joke. Yeah, they're lethal, but they're a gimmick.

[@timothyprice9064]

@@MilesLong556x69 A lethal gimmick? You may have just created a new catchphrase.

[@jasonhas7709]

@@MilesLong556x69 they are much better, anything over 1800 fps is going to be far better than sub 1200 fps ammo. It’s not even close.

[@jasonhas7709]

@@ToolsandTargets I’ve killed 100+ hogs with my 10mm and liberty ammo drops them as fast as my 6.5 Grendel sbr with chest shots. No other handgun ammo even comes close. Hydrostatic shock becomes deadly over 2000 fps cause far greater internal damage with body shots. Slow bullets are the gimmick

[@clintwestwood1895]

I asked my buddy down at the Local gun store about these rounds last year, and I kid you not he pointed at his pistol hanging from his hip and said " That's all I carry".

[@ToolsandTargets]

I would hate to be on the wrong end of these things. It would be a nightmare to get all the pieces out.😣

[@pewpewTN]

I like to shoot them for fun, but I wouldn't carry them for defense. Just can't trust a fragmenting pistol caliber to get enough penetration to stop someone in a real world situation.

[@clintwestwood1895]

@@pewpewTN The base plug is actually designed to penetrate to standard FBI recommended depth after the hollow point segments frag out, It frags and penetrates.

[@pewpewTN]

@@clintwestwood1895 Yea, I know they say that, but I also know that isn't how it works.

[@pewpewTN]

@@clintwestwood1895 Yea, I know they say that, but I also know that isn't how it works.

[@jeremyshackelford8080]

Thanks for testing those. Gonna run a few of the 10mm this weekend

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate you checkin it out. Wicked fast rounds!

[@Dimitrius001]

You don’t usually hear the term “barrel burner“ applied to pistols. In this case, though, it definitely applies. Those are some hot loads.

[@alexskillz45]

I have a Glock modded for 45super and i carry these rounds for edc with 45super as backup. Honestly, i would rather be shot with a 230 grain gold dot at 1100fps than be shot with these fragmenting rounds, they are nasty.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed!👍

[@onesicinfi]

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[@onesicinfi]

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[@kevinroberson1985]

I bought some Leigh 50 cal . Bullet tips for my inline optima 150 magnum rifle! And the Leigh 50 cal. Bullets are lite bullets with a big hollow point hole! And I have to say they are super fast and very devastating on impact! With 150 gr of powder charge the Leigh 50 cal . Hollow points must be going around 4000 fps. I'm not sure I don't have a chronograph! I hope you could test these Leigh 50 cal bullets with three 50 gr. Triple 777 pellets to find out just how fast they are and impact damage! With a inline cva optima and Leigh lite weight bullets !

[@redneckonesurvival7427]

Tools another cool video im like the 45acp be safe on that gel melt brother

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. This was the last one I did pre burn. The melt from this is what got me. I think the jelly wanted revenge for these rounds!

[@TheProAer]

Just to put it out there, Wal-Mart has been getting ammo in every few days the past 2 weeks in Florida. I'm not sure about the rest of the states. This last week scored abunch of 22LR, 12GA, & 20GA. Check up on your local Wal-Mart, they've been getting more than usual lately.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I've noticed here that they seem to be getting stuff in a lot more too.👍

[@Theyoufeelme]

I can only imagine how devastating these rounds would be out of a carbine length barrel

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nasty!

[@charlesmullins3238]

Cmmg banshee…

[@andreawhalen4142]

@@charlesmullins3238 hows 2600fps out of the 9mm sound to you?

[@charlesmullins3238]

@@andreawhalen4142 makes me want 10mm…or big horn .500 spike driver lever action…destroys bottles better than any other round…460 xvr with 2200fps hornadys hit hard too..

[@papashort13]

Those LC HPs are no joke. I have a steel target rated for 44 magnum and the 44 just made it spin, no damage. Then I hit the same target with a 9mm LC HP and it took a chunk of steel off the target. I couldn't believe it

[@williamredd9555]

Ive always described 10mm especially good full loads as a the practical handcanon

[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍More Christmas 🎄 videos brother…..wow don’t they open up😳…those things would rip you to bits😬….great video mate🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸

[@rsbreeze]

Speed kills!

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥💨

[@hds181]

Might be a good choice for home defense. You wouldn't have to worry about over-penetration. How was the recoil? Was it any lighter than a normal round? Would follow-up shots be faster than with heavier bullets? Thanks for another fun and informative video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Honestly don't remember now. I haven't shot any other then this video.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Good video as usual.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya brother!

[@stevethompson9132]

How about a comparison of 10mm +P+ and that same 45 ACP +P+ 👍🏻

[@haroldhatcher1239]

Another great video !!! I think I prefer the 45. But I prefer the 45 over the 10mm anyway. Keep em coming.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎

[@ojr6857]

I wonder how fast these would be out of my g40 10mm with a 6.5” barrel

[@ToolsandTargets]

Faster than a locomotive!💨

[@cervus-venator]

Thanks Tools enjoyed see this info.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya brother.😎

[@TheBandit59]

Great video, I going to start calling you Marshal Evans from now on( old guy stuff, Wrote handgun stopping power in the 80's)

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I'll take it!😎👍

[@TheBandit59]

@@ToolsandTargets great book, .357 was number one , in one shot shooting , on a human being, beat 44 mag and .45? I wonder, if you took modern data, with modern bullets , if that would change?

[@AsaultWeaponKing]

Hey were is your F450 or F550 truck at ? You need it to tow all of them tons of metal!! Oh yea and your fork lift to load all of them tons !!!

[@richardwaid4718]

For all you guys looking for something better from your 45 ACP take a look at the 460 Rowland conversion. Then you can shoot these lightweight fragmenting rds. as well as 45 super (28,000 PSI VS 19,000 for 45 ACP). And if that doesn’t meet your needs then you can step up to a 460; that’ll push a 125 grain 45 rd at 1850-1900 fps. Or a hardcast 255 gr at 1300 fps, that’s a grizzly stopper. The ballistics are equivalent to a 44 magnum but when fired from a semiautomatic with a compensator it only has around 1/3 to 1/2 the recoil of a 44 magnum revolver. Ammo isn’t cheap (about $1.50 a rd) but neither is 44 magnum. 🎉

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@chaseme9860]

The 10mm is producing AR15 SBR ballistics. Awesome.

[@draconian6692]

Now that really makes it a real handgun

[@alraetz1999]

💥💥👍go 10mm!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

That stuff exploded like a grenade!💥💣💥

[@Bob.W.]

Looking at this 2 plus years on. Impressive speed. For dumping energy, first shot 12 ga. 00 buck. Second shot 12 ga. slug. Thanks.

[@buddysumner4022]

The speeds are impressive but I’m on the fence, but I appreciate the time and effort u put into making these videos,

[@ryanm9105]

Everyone noting the 45 increased penetration is forgetting the potential hydrostatic damage from the 10mm reaching twice the speed of sound.

[@ToolsandTargets]

It was smokin for sure.

[@jasonkeating9958]

The 45 at lower velocity left bigger pieces and those pieces went pretty deep with a decent spread

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir. Nasty stuff!

[@thealarmclock9307]

Agreed

[@bmx7596]

You don't get the advantage of hydrostatic shock like rifles though. The reason M16s etc are so dangerous is it launches a small rounds at over 2100fps and damages human tissue not even part of the wound paht. Massive advantage.

[@russellvonastel7111]

Now that was a great video,thank you

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you checkin it out!

[@semichiganandy2127]

That was a cool video. The speeds of those rounds is surprising.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Crazy speeds for sure.

[@BushcraftTexas]

i've used the same round in a g29 on a 160lb hog. hit in the neck... was a home grown meat hog.... it dropped and was gone with a single shot. they are in my top two for personal defense along with the BB 180gr.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🐗💥

[@lambdabear8494]

Love me my G29, been my daily carry for a while now. Gonna pick up a few of these rounds now 😂

[@slickdazzler7330]

Crazy velocity out of a pistol.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely!

[@Mike__S]

I've been carrying the liberty 45acp for years, I shot a ham with it and it exploded. There is no doubt these things have some energy

[@ToolsandTargets]

They made the jelly do a dance!💥💥💥

[@TheProAer]

I own 2 boxes of these, their expensive. I payed $40 for them. I tested them in my EDC with a mixture of defense rounds, the Liberty was much louder than the other defense rounds. It's a good looking round.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I noticed they were a lot louder myself. All that powder packed in there.

[@TheProAer]

@@ToolsandTargets Yeah the cartridges must have the maximum amount of powder that can fit. I carry a S&W Sheild Plus, I recently traded my old Sheild for the Plus and was testing to make sure defensive ammo of choice cycles properly. It would be nice if S&W would put out some spare magazines for them, nobody can find them anywhere. If I would have known I probably would have gone with the P365, upgraded to the Sheild Plus because it also fit my Sheild 9 holster. S&W released the Sheild Plus in March and still no spare mags anywhere. P365, Hellcat, and Glock 43X mags are everywhere but not the Sheild Plus.

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@TheProAer Wow, I didn't know that about the mags. You'd think they would be trying to roll em out and charge a pretty penny for em.

[@TheProAer]

@@ToolsandTargets I found a guy online who owns a FFL in Massachusetts who had 20 of the 13 round mags that came with his shipment of Sheild Plus's, they have that dumb 10 max limit law up there. He wanted $80 for a 13 round Sheild Plus magazine. Passed up that crazy price, lol Just going to have to wait.

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@TheProAer Ouch, don't blame ya on that.😣

[@VikingVic76]

I love my G20sf

[@ToolsandTargets]

Great pistols!👍

[@kennystrange8705]

Awesome round both of them..💯👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely.😎👍

[@ultraman1red]

Both had massive cavity expansion. I would go with the 45 acp.

[@ToolsandTargets]

As much as I like my 10mm, I would have a hard time choosing on this one.

[@rickyjohnson9594]

10 mm gos Thur a level llla vest but 44 mag 45 acp or 357sig dount 10 mm is over twice powerful as a 45 is lok.up vest test see witch gos slap Thur vest or glass

[@l.a.3887]

Some pretty wicked ammo great video thanks they will definitely kill whatever 45acp they would be devastating to the body crazy fast

[@ToolsandTargets]

Smokin!

[@ericplatt3390]

Last year I used these on 2 Michigan deer one was a 90lb doe and one was on a 150lb 8point I was using a delta elite both shots were just under 30 yards.both deer never went outta sight and expired within seconds however I’m not a fan of the fact the bullets literally chew up everything I had fragments everywhere inside both arms.the main coin shaped slug on both deer was stuck on opposite side between skin and ribs.I honestly like the results with the factory Winchester 175 grain silver tips which I’ve shot 6 deer with them with to me imo better results.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I imagine that's a mess to try to clean up for sure.😆

[@rodrodriguez460]

Wow! It’s as if the bullets leave the barrel before the trigger is squeezed!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😲😲😲