240Hz IPS vs TN Monitors - Things are Changing!

[@optimumtech]

IPS panels are getting insanely quick. But are they enough to beat TN @ 240Hz? let me know your thoughts.

[@junzhiwong1284]

IPS can be fast enough, but that few ms of latency will trade off with colour accuracy for me. :)

[@cheater00]

hey bro, i loved this video. if you would like to improve your testing methodology - not to just check the response time with the ufo test, but measure it yourself - i would love to suggest some things to you. I'm a metrology person and could help you build a setup to gather more exact data on a budget. let me know if you're interested.

[@hrwells9698]

would love to see the review of the new alien ware 25 inch ips display. n

[@argg.x]

are you gonna try the Alienware 25" ips? or the HP omen 27" 1440p TN (which based on reviews has the lowest input time off all monitors in the market (maybe not including the zowie tho) :) also does Motion blur reduction works at 240hz?

[@lrmcatspaw1]

I am going to give my take on this (bare in mind, it will be a bit long): IPS can never catch up to TN in motion fluidity. The reason is light. More precicly light reaching your eye. When your eye recives a certain amount of light, the pupil will adjust in order to compensate. TN panels have shutters that will flat out close the light that goes to your eye if need be, meaning that ghosting will be less of an issue for people who have pupils that react a bit slower. Personally, i have a very slow pupil reaction time (I am bearly within the limits to be able to drive a car, meaning getting my licence, because my eye takes a bit long to adjust), and I can see ghosting effects on IPS, Plasma TVs, even OLED tvs. So, how does this work? If the new scene is brighter than the previous one, ghosting is rearly an issue, but when the scene get darker, if the panel does not "block" the additional light that is dimming, your eye still recives enough light to create ghosting effects. For anyone interested in testhing this themselves, i highly recommend the game "the vanishing of eathan carter" (either version is fine) as it is so realistic in the enviroment, that any ghosting can make it nausious to look at (as the brain belives you have been poisoned due to the unnatural mix with something that seems very natural). I might have been a bit too simplistic in the explanation but basically, if a light bulb (or in this case a LED light that is creating the white light that is then filtered by the panel) is turned off, it will not INSTANTLY turn off. The residual energy keep the light active at lower intensity for a while, giving visual information that should not be there. The reason this is so noticible for some people (and others a bit less) is because our eyes react a bit differently and a few miliseconds can be either not noticeable at all, or very annoying. (plz check tft central for more information on panels, they are amazing at not only reviews but also explaining waht each measurement means). The key element here is that if there is ghosting (even ghsoting that you cant actually see) the fluidity of the motion will be... worse. Not bad, just worse. Of course this is my personal opinion and you would be smart to confirm anything I wrote instead of just believing it. Edit: plz take a clsoe look (frame by frame) at time 2:58 to 3:00 right as tracer is pulse bombing there is clear ghosting effect (most visible at the hand of tracer throwing the pulse bomb)

[@EnJeiBee]

They put the branding on the back so that when players are using these monitors at eSports events the logo shows when the camera pans over the stage.

[@optimumtech]

How I did not think of that is beyond me. lol. Props.

[@JamesRussoMillas]

@@optimumtech ITS FREE REAL ESTATE

[@hennwei]

was gonna say the same thing.

[@asyraf_fareed]

but still, if the logo was some kind of a brand such as the MSI logo then it make sense but "Gaming Esports"? Did i miss something?

[@b1zzler]

that's cool with me I guess. As long as I don't have to see that garbage when I'm sitting at my desk 😂

[@MXG000]

Waiting for OLED 1440p 300Hz 1ms 10bit HDR 10 .

[@131Shoker131]

i'll check this message in 5 years

[@NGFN]

@@131Shoker131 same

[@Shieftain]

>300MHz ...I don't think we're going into the hundreds of megahertz range in this lifetime unless some kind of massive technological breakthrough happens.

[@MXG000]

@@Shieftain 😂 I just noticed. I meant of course 300Hz . Eidited

[@caleb6373]

il give it 3

[@SamAxtell]

I’m super glad that more 360hz monitors are coming out because they will make all the 240hz monitors cheaper which is fantastic.

[@donghyunkim5544]

Man your high level tracer gameplay kinda distracts me from the video so i had to see this two times

[@Fyrlink]

who said that was him

[@AimanHilmiAHJ]

@@Fyrlink u didn't watch the vid do u? U can clearly see him playing tracer at around 1:45

[@megamonstudios]

I love that your actually good at the games you test on the esports side. Seeing a lot of other tests don't give me confidence in their experience or even if it makes a difference to them like the linus staff. But your actually good at Tracer amazing

[@TheVillainOfTheYear]

I just can't have blur. Even in games like Tomb Raider and Fallen Order, I cannot abide when I pan across the horizon and the scenery turns into a big blur because of slow panels. I think one or two more generations and IPS will make TN obsolete though.

[@cl4ssic]

As long as IPS glow is still a thing, TN panels will never be obsolete.

[@TheVillainOfTheYear]

@@cl4ssic Fair enough. Maybe OLED will come to save us all?

[@JasonEllingsworth]

@@cl4ssic I have a "budget" IPS 144hz Acer Nitro monitor, and not only do I not notice blur, but I also notice no glow...and only 200 bones.

[@MrDutch1e]

@@cl4ssic TN has been dead for years. Only people who buy TN are people who believe IPS glow is actually a thing on a high end monitor. It's not. Random bad luck back when xf270hu, xb271hu, pg279q, etc. came out but 99% of those were beautiful. IPS is so far superior to TN its ridiculous. Not sure why anyone would want to look at trash color accuracy. The only benefit to TN is cost.

[@TheWeirdPianist]

@@TheVillainOfTheYear We need microLED not OLED

[@RodrigoSantos-qh7se]

2:20 companies do that so when you're watching a competition that's the part you'll actually get to see when they zoom in on the player.

[@Accuaro]

Bro wtf, you're cracked at Overwatch?? What's your SR

[@ariffansar4994]

The logo on the back for advertising at events, and the other light for reflection on your wall :D

[@WrexBF]

I recently returned my Alienware AW2518HF 240Hz and ordered an ASUS VG249Q 144Hz IPS. As someone who only plays first-person shooters, I never thought that the difference from 144Hz to 240Hz could be this minor. I can now confidently say that a 240Hz TN monitor like the XL2546 is no way near worth $500. My next move is trying out a 1440p 144Hz IPS. If the size (27'') happens to be a problem, I'll replace it with the MSI MAG251RX 240Hz IPS. 240Hz feels exactly like how I imagined the jump from 144Hz to 180Hz would feel like. Slightly smoother, but nothing groundbreaking.

[@Crustee0]

Linus made a video in collaboration with some professional esport players and another tech youtuber, and they also come to the conclusion that 60hz to 144hz is the big jump, and 144 to 240 is not as noticeable, but it does give a little bit of advantage even for casual.

[@JWSpradlin]

Optimum: "I don't think I'm a good enough E-Sports player to notice..." Me: Holy shit, he's playing Tracer hundreds of times better than I could. My 144hz monitor, Glorious Model O, and much lower DPI setting (all thanks to you) STILL don't even bring me close to your skill.

[@asprtm]

F

[@aztechrex5275]

F

[@PitiPablo_]

You're actually insane at overwatch also this whole review is phenomenal. Actually answered my question in this review, props 🔥

[@canadiansplootdoggo9333]

I wouldn't be surprised if he made this whole video just to flex his tracer play :3

[@ibraaulia9908]

ikr those pulse bombs are pretty damn good

[@stephanematis]

Thanks for mentioning that this IPS was a review copy, hopefully the general market version will also be as clean with no bleed through.

[@airrwalker]

Motion Clarity of TN is really something

[@MKR3238]

Without strobing?

[@undersc0r]

@@MKR3238 a lot of va or ips panels have ghosting, which makes the picture look blurry when, let's say, looking around fast in an fps game.

[@TripleMoonPanda]

Can touch the motion clarity of a CRT. Honestly motion clarity, colors, and contrast ratio are the only real benefits CRTs still have over LCDs, LCDs have gotten really impressive over the past couple years.

[@zeff2103]

@@TripleMoonPanda i remember playing cs 1.6 at those CRT monitors and the game just felt right u know , fast no ghosting and stuff. Then the flat panel monitors came around and the game felt so so different , considering having shitty refresh rate , ping , latency etc , the game became unplayable some times

[@jayjaygolden5123]

The rise of gaming capable ips panels has made monitor choice much easier for me as a game artist

[@平和-v1z]

Can't wait for Micro- LED Monitors and TVs... Those Black levels...🤤

[@tommihommi1]

not just black levels, also response times, no ghosting, no edge bleeding, and no burn-in. Once that technology is ready it'll (hopefully) completely make LCD obsolete

[@平和-v1z]

@@tommihommi1 Yeah, but sadly we have to wait until that happens. I hope people don't get confused when it comes to differentiating between Micro and Mini- LED...

[@BLAZEREN101]

Yes it’ll be revolutionary! Can’t wait!

[@PaulKiama]

Upvoted for the bomb (pun intended) Tracer gameplay and quality review!

[@Adiadi-uj3ud]

What pun

[@Mogu003]

I have a friend that's red-green colourblind and he says that some UI in games are super confusing, but he still kicks ass. So colour accuracy in games doesn't make you any better.

[@snookiewozo]

Newest IPS panels with super quick response time and a whopping 700:1 contrast ratio capable of depriving any scene of its depth.

[@mrsudz]

I agree, the LG is so praised and when I tried it out the blacks look grey and the contrast was pretty bad. I returned it. Waiting for the reviews on the new Samsung Odyssey 27. 240hz and quantum dot VA.

[@mettiflo]

I recently bought the BenQ ZOWIE XL2546 e-Sports Gaming Monitor con DyAc, 24.5”, 240 H And to be honest I will gladly sacrifice the tiny color accuracy. Tn for me still reins supreme as far as esports goes. Nice review btw, glad I subscribed the content is really good :).

[@mr.bitsbyte4664]

But did you have another 240Hz IPS monitor to compare it to?

[@mettiflo]

@@mr.bitsbyte4664 yes my rog swift, which i sold for this one :)

[@ExposedChannel247]

I really hope manufacturers will consider making 1440p monitors that are IPS with about 200hz refresh rate. That would be perfect for me at 25" or 27", plenty of games I have can handle that framerate/res with the settings lowered a bit. That would blend content creation and competitive gaming on one screen which is what I'm looking for.

[@ThisIsExile91]

I bought the MAG251RX off Amazon over a month ago. I returned it in less then a week, kept my TN 240Hz HP Omen. I am a GM ranked OW player. The MSI is nice, but still marginally slower. I couldn't accept that. TN is still superior, if your top priority is speed. As a top competitive gamer, it bothered me knowing my TN monitor was slightly smoother while I was using the MAG251RX. It was distracting just knowing that while playing. Its hard to explain, but think of it like Obsessive Compulsive disorder. It kept bothering me, and it affected my performance in real time. It unstresses me knowing I literally have the fastest monitor out there. Even if it was only by .0001%. I still want that .0001% extra speed. Hope that makes sense.

[@250kmonths]

i like how minimalistic and simple it looks from the front, it's clean

[@bennguyen7621]

I know this comment is a little late, but I rarely comment on videos let alone praise them. Just wanted to let you know that this is an extremely well made video. Incredibly concise and to the point. Your experiments and analysis are also extremely well done and easy to understand. Keep up the good work!

[@Danny-sb4jd]

I bought an MSI Optix MAG321CQR (32", 1440p, 144hz, VA, 1ms) a month ago and I'm not exactly satisfied. The inverse ghosting is abhorrent on all modes except for "fastest" which, like OpTech said in the video, utilizes an anti-motionblur feature that dims the screen by far too much. The screen also takes on a warmer hue and the whites become washed out, leaving you at a disadvantage in some games. I urge anyone looking to buy an MSI monitor to try it out in person before buying. The response time has left much to be desired.

[@ChillieGaming]

optimuim tech reviewing MSI MAG251RX not your MSI MAG321CQR VA panel

[@rylexx8722]

You gotta love a review with Overwatch gameplay in the background

[@Beefy-Tech]

Im running an Asus 170Hz 1440p IPS 1ms panel rn. I love it! at 170hz it has some ghosting though, dropping to 165hz gets rid of that entirely though and is a pleasure to game on! Unless you do professional gaming as your full time job, a 1440p 165hz will always be more pleasurable then 1080p 240hz which i have also had for a while.

[@xeven5282]

just a tip, @ 2:56 you can press melee before you blink to decrease the animation time. this would also result in the zen having less time to react e.g. use his ult

[@boblablaw4857]

You're my favorite youtuber and your vids are always exactly on points that I am interested in. Can you maybe run us through your software settings for gaming? Nvidia overlay, monitor overdrive, etc.? Keep up the good work!!

[@rjeption]

I upgraded from a 60hz to a 144hz and my gaming instantly changed. I moved a mouse on a 240hz at Best Buy once and I can never go back. I want a 240hz now 😪😩

[@user-sp2ig9vv8m]

Ok

[@SparrowPOV]

I'm just amazed by the tracer gameplay

[@Kaio7]

Great video man. btw, @ 2:16 my guess is the logo on the back is intended to be showcased when broadcasting esports matches, e.g. CS GO. There're are a ton of shots of the players from the other side of the table, where all the setups are in full display.

[@Rhyex]

Ideal monitor: 24'' bezelless display matte finish, Ultra micro LED 480hz g-sync freesync compatible, 0.5 ms of response time, 4K, Adobe RGB 100%, 1200 nits HDR 0 blur with lolipop included

[@ivan904]

People will say it's subtle, but to me it's pretty obvious that the Tn panel was quicker and smoother just by looking at your footage. look at 9:28 when you turned left, tn panel was clearly faster

[@TheWMq8]

thought you were right, but nah, after trying both for so long, TN panels are still exceeding remarkably.

[@yoked391]

True, I started on TN , swapped to IPS and thought after all these years my eyes were failing, but in reality, it's just the slow IPS response times lol

[@Alorand]

I just want a 240Hz OLED 4k 27" Monitor for under $1000 this decade.

[@merlinklink3872]

Alorand might even be micro led depending on how far display tech comes

[@Aggrofool]

@@merlinklink3872 MicroLED is at minimum 5 years away

[@abcdxx1059]

lol you will get lot more than that i guess we will probably be done with monitors within this decade

[@EnnTomi1]

under 250$.

[@Jose.LQ6]

Maybe in 2029

[@alexj0101]

I love this. I want to make an arcade cabinet and finding the right monitor is a problem, but this is exactly what you would want for a cabinet.

[@hkiajtaqks5253]

I have the LG 34 ultrawide IPS with 144 Hz and I clearly remember having beter experience with an Asus 144Hz TN display. High refresh rates on IPS is not that impressive. It will still give you good reaction time for shooter games, but with quick motions the blur is pretty bad as compared to TN. TN is insanely good for high FPS.

[@starmole5000]

Got myself a Acer Predator 144hz IPS. Gorgeous colors and contrast, and blew my mind smoothness when I can get a game up past 100FPS. Best of both is always nice. Course if you're a pro gamer you'd do Hz over color I'm sure.

[@mysuppressor]

It's awesome to see IPS finally catch up to TN panels

[@Handsx]

IPS is still a native 4ms pixel response vs 1ms native with TN panels. IPS can achieve 1ms, but only through overdrive settings. Overdrive WILL show artifacts/ghosting unless proper compensation is applied. ANYTHING that requires compensation to compete with a faster native response time, will be inferior. It's all smoke and mirrors marketing with this "fast IPS" crap. I would LOVE to have an IPS natively faster than a TN, but it's physically not possible. And yes, in fast paced FPS you will notice this difference. IMO, the "veterans" doing reviews saying fast ips is no different than 1ms TN, they might not have eye sight capable of noticing these differences anymore. There is a difference. If your main focus is blur free fast action, go with a TN panel that is a NATIVE 240hz (not overclocked) with an official G-SYNC module (not G-SYNC "capable".) This is the most pure blur free image I have seen so far. OLED is the only other display type currently out that can compete as the native response is 0.01ms. All LCD based display technologies only go as low as 1ms natively.

[@williamchen5102]

That's some quality tracer gameplay there, definitely not an amateur tracer player

[@CharcharoExplorer]

Now imagine MicroLED HDR 12-bit + FRC , 240 Hz screens. At 4K. One day... one day.

[@A.Froster]

FRC ? What's that ?

[@CharcharoExplorer]

@@A.Froster "Frame rate control (FRC) is a method for achieving higher color quality in low color resolution display panels such as TN+film LCD. Most TN panels represent colors using only 6 bits per RGB color, or 18 bit in total, and are unable to display the 16.7 million color shades (24-bit truecolor) that are available from graphics cards. Instead, they use a dithering method that combines adjacent pixels to simulate the desired shade.[needs update] FRC is a form of temporal dithering which cycles between different color shades with each new frame to simulate an intermediate shade. This can create a potentially noticeable 30 Hz flicker. FRC tends to be most noticeable in darker tones, while dithering appears to make the individual pixels of the LCD visible.[1] This method is similar in principle to field-sequential color system by CBS and other sequential color methods such as used in Digital Light Processing (DLP). 8 bit TN+film panels with dithering are sometimes advertised as having "16.2 million colors". Some panels now render HDR10 content with an 8-bit panel using frame rate control." It can actually be used in 12-bit colour panel too, in theory. Would be superior to just 12-bit. Which is already incredible btw.

[@synchronos1]

FRC (which confusingly stands for Frame Rate Control, yet it has nothing to do with variable refresh rate) is temporal dithering that is used to achieve HDR on monitors that aren't natively capable of that many colors (or just the normal 8-bit colors on 6-bit monitors). E.g., if you want to have a color value of 144.5 (on any single channel), you could make the pixel flicker between 144 and 145 (assuming 8-bit 0-255 color range). After each color channel would have 4096 distinct colors what the 12 bits would provide, I don't think there's any need to boost that even higher with FRC, though.

[@MLWJ1993]

No thanks, I dislike dithering induced by FRC, I rather have a native at least 8-bit panel.

[@devinwilliams4860]

Man I wish VA panels had better response times. They have much better contrast than IPS, but are usually too slow for even 144hz.

[@denyxrunner]

as I use for almost one year the new samsung oled 4k panel on aero15x I can say oled is ready for pc. Zero retention even using it for 8 hour day with static program. Oled 240hz will be the ultimate monitor. Real time respons time for best tn is 2/3ms. Ips 4/6ms and oled only 0.1ms

[@enioapolinario8538]

@@denyxrunner OLED have good contrast ratio just like VA?

[@devinwilliams4860]

@@denyxrunner Both oled & micro-led monitors seem to be on the horizon but I'm terrified of how much they're going to cost. 60hz oled panels already cost a kidney, 240hz will probably cost both + an arm, & leg. I'm not sure if micro-led has the near instant response times oleds have either. It's exciting tech sure but it'll probably be a while before it's affordable.

[@denyxrunner]

Enio Apolinario oled is way better compared to everything else on the market

[@denyxrunner]

Devin Williams micro led should have the same response time as other led technology like tn or ips. Yes I know for sure oled or micro led will cost a lot on pc market... just think they still sell us 4k ips at 3k when lg is making 55 4k oled 120hz (real) and selling it for 1100€ here in EU in sale. Sadly monitors companies have way less market compared to tv but they overpriced too much in my opinion... I mean if lg can sell 55 120hz oled for that price a 27 oled monitor should cost around 800

[@mijo1776]

so which one are you sticking with for the future for your gaming setup?

[@theblitz1687]

When doing these test, you should also test dark to dark color switches as that is the hardest part for ips va panels, almost all, if not all, va panels have trouble there and it depends on which ips monitor you are using.

[@robby7997]

My first monitor was a TN, and have never found never VA or ips panel that I could game on without wanting to go back to TN

[@ThePsEuDoAnOnYmOuS]

I have the 240hz TN monitor. While gaming I always use the maximum response time mode, yes, there is ghosting, but the response time is just on point.

[@ccricers]

Refreshing to see a Tracer player that actually knows how to use her ult very well

[@gilbertwilfred7357]

Did you change the base of the Alienware monitor ?

[@enioapolinario8538]

Hopefully we will see improvements on VA painels too Better response times and more options with 144hz

[@Zalionn]

After I got my first ips panel I never went back. For me better color was more enjoyable than super high fps. I'm usually happy around 80-100 fps for most games and even 60 for more cinematic games.

[@Physics072]

I go Alienware TN 240hz Monitor 1 and a true IPS 1080x1200 for 2nd monitor. Best of both worlds.

[@joeltacorda]

Love that your putting out way more content! Keep it up!

[@oll1_sg686]

I bought the new 240Hz IPS (2521f) monitor from Alienware -> mind blowing!!! I compare ist with the 240hz th Version (2518hf) and like you Said there is no real differenz Butter a so much cleaner Image.

[@ph0o84r]

Please make more of these great monitor reviews... those are just rare out there

[@marko_jack_]

Well I am aware of tn disandvantages however, I am not going to change my monitor anytime soon, Benq Zowie xl2411p, it has amaizing image quality, with amaizing colors, 1ms response time 144hz refresh rate, I adore high fps with high-ultra graphics settings, I don't need better monitor...

[@aarnio1694]

Don't want to be that guy, but the xl2411p has awful colors for the price. It's a fast esports monitor, and thats it.

[@marko_jack_]

@@aarnio1694 Just no...

[@sagetactics7337]

If you lower the backlight brightness on your ips it gives a crt nostalgia type feel and can see better in FPS.

[@Crashboy96]

While IPS monitors are getting quicker, they're still not as fast as high end TN panels at the moment. Sure we're getting 240Hz IPS monitors now, but there will also be 360Hz TN panels on the market later this year.

[@42WallabyWaySydney]

Lol now we have only 360hz IPS and some people switched back to 240hz TN for motion clarity

[@canderson7776]

No motion blur is such a game changer when it can be used with and acceptable brightness level. I can see a clear difference myself on my old and tested XL2411Z when it run it on a overlocked 120hz no motion blur and standard 144hz. Main reason why I have a 2nd IPS 1440p 144hz monitor that is used for everything BUT FPS gaming.

[@lucaschenJC]

Had that IPS one. Absolutely worth it!

[@valky6552]

Is it great for competitive games like cs go + valorant ?

[@austinwan9069]

dude ngl ur tracking is insane i saw thosse shots

[@TenrouUgetsu]

I don't know about you, but when you have the two monitors displayed side by side with the Overwatch vod I can clearly see that the video on the IPS has a bit of delay compared to the TN.

[@okokokok3343]

Me: Things are Changing! My Wallet: Nope

[@Blablarnold]

I am wondering, what did you use to measure the rgb spectrum and the white point ?

[@okaoki]

what about Alienware 24" 240Hz IPS ?

[@meemasabee7137]

Hi! Have you played the mag251rx with fps hovering between 100-140fps? If yes, how does it perform compared to the TN 240hz also played with 100-140fps? Does the MSI show more overshoot and smearing or is it still better than the AW?

[@wattotoydarian9376]

I have an Alienware AW2518H with a 1ms refresh rate and much better viewing angles than the one you are showing, the AW2518HF? On System Builder the specks are virtually the same except for Freesync. I don't recognize your Alienware monitor's stand so don't know what's up with that? Newer/Older model?

[@patrickrk44]

Have had a 240hz IPS 3ms 1080 screen for a year. Love it

[@endlessgaslight]

would you recommend a IPS over TN with same specs?

[@NikiandFikret]

You should do a review and comparison of the new alienware ips 240hz 25 inch and these 2 monitors!

[@mijo1776]

so which one do you like better for gaming?

[@Araksii]

Where do you get the monitor stand for the Alienware monitor?

[@BlackBoxster]

Ok so IPS panels has finally reached 240hz with fast response time but dont forget that TN panels are climbing to 360hz! There are still a step ahead

[@AussieZeKieL]

There’s really no need. I’d prefer 144hz and everything else to be improved over 240hz+

[@edfort5704]

@@AussieZeKieL yes, there is a need for higher refresh and fps. Much much higher, i.e several thousands. It's fine to say it's difficult to achieve. It's BS to say there's no need.

[@idyllsend6481]

No game runs at 360 fps.

[@PutinIsKing]

i'm just to scared from IPS Glow, VA is the perfect sweetspot as i play most of the time in dark for better imersion, nice review !

[@Yovellalg]

Alienware 1080p 240hz fast ips AW2521HF its good for Nvidia rtx 3070? O go for 1440p 144hz?

[@TRHardware]

How about the Alienware AW2521HF (240Hz IPS), which is direct sucsessor to your own daily Alienware TN 240Hz monitor. Would like to get that review, so I could decide if IPS is worth the extra 80usd compared to TN panel.

[@hollandthomas747]

I personally still don't see the need for 240hz, I would much rather 1440p and 165hz. I bought the Asus VG27AQ recently (1440p 165hz IPS) And yes IPS makes a world of difference. Its night and day. I love it. The response time is on par with if not better than my old BenQ monitor imo.

[@philreitz6330]

Why didn't you mention input lag? I think input lag is just as important as response time in an e-sports monitor.

[@futmut1000]

Im very disappointed with my current monitor which is the same as yours, 240hz TN panel, yeah its smooth but colors are very bad and ghosting is still there...I was using a CRT 170HZ that died on my otherwise i would still be using it, much better colors, lower response time, no blur and the games felt much smoother..I would say TN panels have a long way to go before they catch up...Perhaps IPS panels are the way to go but still need lower response time...

[@CIutchVS5]

I apologize in advance if you’ve already tried this, but perhaps calibrating the colors could help. Some monitor reviewers also share their calibration profiles in addition to their review which brings you closer to ips color reproduction than the out of the box performance

[@AliYassinToma]

Dont care about ips ... im waiting for an oled 240hz 1ms HDR10+ 2k monitor

[@hardcorehardware361]

1080p though.. I would like to see 240hz 1440p panels.

[@marko_jack_]

And then what... To lower graphics settings to achieve 200 fps??? Lower graphics settings sucks on 1440p and even 2160p compared to ultra settings on 1080p ;)

[@hardcorehardware361]

@@marko_jack_ What? 1440p graphics are way better than 1080p wtf are you talking about?

[@jalderink]

@@hardcorehardware361 For the screen, real estate, alone. Much less the smoother looking appearance.

[@mm-rw3hi]

@@marko_jack_ gsync works well when you dont reavh your max fps

[@AussieZeKieL]

Max M you get more input delay when you run your cpu or gpu @100%, less with gsync. But it’s best to cap your fps so your cpu or gpu don’t run over 90%

[@argg.x]

the reason why the logo is on the back is for actual Esport events, where you see players using the monitors and ofc you only see the back, so easy marketing once in stage

[@gnshp8167]

I will get a 27" 240hz wqhd monitor if there is one. Your production quality and gameplay are insane. Keep up the good work :)

[@KeepAnOpenMind]

There is one. Called ViewSonic, google it. Costs 859 euro on amazon or newegg, can't remember. I am buying the same one, but 1080p, because it costs 570 euro instead. I'd, of course, pay more, but I've just upgraded my pc fully and didn't want to spend much more money on it. So buy one and enjoy! Perhaps, I was wrong, can't find this viewsonic, found only 165 hertz. But look for it, it should be there, should have been not viewsonic then.

[@pilsy2063]

Input Lag is what really matters, since it is also always much higher than response time. :)

[@shaolin95]

I compared THE best IPS panel to TN and it still cannot match what the best TN can do. That is the simple fact. I returned the IPS

[@spinach1472]

Thank God you used the Blur Buster's UFO test

[@alvarsantini2653]

nvidia freesync overlay to increase vibrant? I could't understand i don't know what kind of program he uses to get better vibrant for TN panels did anyone understood what he clearly says? Timelapse 4:10m

[@optimumtech]

If you have GeForce Experience downloaded, it's ALT + F3

[@dracoflame3921]

I Preordered the first 240hz 1440p IPS monitor a few days ago!

[@Patrick73787]

where? I'm waiting for Asus/Acer models anyway.

[@jeverbever]

Thank you for a good comparison!

[@demonwares]

I have a ultrawide AW3418DW, very happy with it. My next upgrade will be when oled ultrawide HDR exist

[@EnnTomi1]

You also forget whoever goes for 240hz is going to be hardcore at least. That means TN panel with its washed out color is actually better in competitive games. i had once gone with a IPS 144 panel, and all the corners are so dark, it is even harder for me to play. but that doesn't mean you can tune the IPS to suit more competitive play (increase the shadow). it all comes down to cost. Nowadays, DIY an 1080p144TN might cost less than $200AUD (doesn't include monitor case), and it is perfectly fine even for top-spost players. but an 1440p144 is going to cost more than 4 times the price for having it an IPS as well.

[@qiyuxuan9437]

1440p ips is not that expensive. I got a viewsonic 27inch 144hz 1440p for 450 aud. Although the response time is not as good as the 600 aud LG, the color is very good.

[@KayJay01]

All I need is 1440p, (micr)OLED, 240Hz with G-Sync for $400.. hopefully soon. Things are getting there at least it seems.

[@CaptHotah]

Wished this was 1440p

[@WarriorsPhoto]

I don’t game at a high enough level to warrant even purchasing a high refresh rate monitor. So I am sticking to IPS or similar panels. Good review though as you explained your findings well. Thank you.

[@Rosaslav]

Any game will benefit from variable refresh rate to prevent tearing and reduce stutter and input lag. So, If you still have fixed refresh rate 60Hz monitor I highly recommend getting some of recently released budget IPS gmaing monitors. I myself bought Viewsonic XG2405 and can safely recommend it.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Rostislav Hašek I’ll look into it, thank you. (:

[@henryt9731]

I'm currently using a Philips 24'' 2k IPS at 60-75hz 5ms gtg, HOWEVER, I think we need a 2k >144hz IPS at UNDER 25 inch... As a person who does photography and fps gaming and who lives is a fucking smol city with fulling smol apartments (Hong Kong), I think this could be a pretty popular market.

[@formidable2368]

Great job!! Maybe the Alienware AW2518H with G-sync (not AW2518Hf) can beat the Zowie XL2546 (they call him the king off fps)? I really can't make up my mind which one to get...keep up the good work.

[@Proffyy]

I think the most important test would be "input lag" followed by response time. All us serious gamers care about input lag with mouse/keyboard to on screen

[@aygor4427]

Does anyone know what monitor stand he uses with his Alienware monitor? It doesn't look like its original stand.

[@Avean]

I went down from a ultrawide to a fast 27 monitor. But im definetely going back to ultrawide when they get faster. You got the PG35VQ but thats the same price as a car almost. But ive always stuck with IPS cause of the color.

[@joostwagelaar8837]

Have cars become $2000?

[@Avean]

@@joostwagelaar8837 Used old car atleast :) The monitor is $3500 in my country now. The prices have gone insane cause of this virus.