Handmade makes it so precious. Machinery made jewels don’t feel the same
@mantaszmenskis5619 Жыл бұрын
this is only video I can find that shows YES can take a bullion and make something without pouring it. Thank you!
@mustachemetalworks Жыл бұрын
I promise you there are other people forging 24k gold. HOWEVER, I do love the praise :)
@ftegger43478993 жыл бұрын
You can't beat the warm buttery tones of pure gold. Whoever is getting that ring is one lucky recipient 😊
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
I actually melted this ring down into a puddle and make the other gold ring video with the gold! No lucky reciepient for this one
@mylove88teeko882 жыл бұрын
ارجو الحصول على قطعه منه
@Xerrand2 жыл бұрын
@@mylove88teeko88 Me too!
@ecor1503 жыл бұрын
Yes, nothing beats pure gold.
@jimthomas7772 жыл бұрын
A Hammer does !
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
lol
@toniion85173 жыл бұрын
Super Nice...from Romania...Respect for you end FAMILY!
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@aarg26093 жыл бұрын
Looks beautiful. Im on etsy hunting a 24k gold ring now.
@kellickforge3 жыл бұрын
Want me to make you one? Drop me a message on Instagram @kellickforge and we can work out what you want :)
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
Now this is a smart man; droppin into the comment section for some free advertisement
@kellickforge3 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks always working haha
@peopledustcanada4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. I enjoy watching them and your techniques. Please keep them coming!
@mustachemetalworks4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm glad you liked this!
@voidremoved2 жыл бұрын
There wasn't even any mustache in this video but I still liked it
@cooperdavid7694 Жыл бұрын
wow! 10g of gold ring i want that one
@ilevakaM92 жыл бұрын
I’d love to buy one of these if you ever make another 🙏
@the_real_economics2 жыл бұрын
24K is the real deal.
@Ronin-sh7pg2 жыл бұрын
How does one go about getting a ingot mold with stamp to start scrapping precious metals?
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
I would start with a charcoal block ingot mold! There are plenty of scrappers on KZbin!
@moneymatters16882 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@ilevakaM9 Жыл бұрын
Does the rolling mill need to be any specific mm im not sure which rolling mill to purchase, I would like my ring the same thickness & width
@mustachemetalworks Жыл бұрын
Rolling mills have two rolling surfaces that go up and down on rails controlled by a single large screw. My mill can go from 0.1mm (extremely flat) to around 5mm opening. My mill also has a square section that makes perfectly square wire. Using a pair of digital callipers will help you maintain perfect dimensions.
@SpentzosDino4 жыл бұрын
That is very nice; high quality.
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
Money is no object round here
@tattoofthesun2 жыл бұрын
I am in the process of doing this but with older gold jewelry melted down and ONLY a hammer and a vice. The gold keeps cracking even though I have it into a long strip
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
Youre probably butting up against a few different issues if you're not annealing enough. Make sure to heat your gold up to relax the crystal structure so you can beat it more. Cracking indicates overworking the metal past it's ductile limit. If you're not protecting your metal from the atmosphere (mostly the copper in the alloy) you may be also making copper oxides and embedding them into your gold. Copper oxides are going to weaken your structure. Use a flux to protect your metal while melting (classically borax). Take a video and upload it if you're really stuck!
@tattoofthesun2 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks that’s really helpful and actually it did sort of turn rose gold. I’ll upload a vid in this coming week and link it here
@tattoofthesun2 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks do you hammer a few times, then anneal? Hammer and anneal over and over? I would hammer for a few mins, anneal, repeat
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
@@tattoofthesun yep, anneal as needed. once you have cracks, you've gone too far and annealing will not help. Once you get cracks, you'll probably need to remelt at least the surface... its like annealing but you let the metal slightly melt.
@Saki6302 жыл бұрын
can you make a solid 1oz ring
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
It would be huge! I could make one, but I'm not going to any time soon
@CuSTACKS Жыл бұрын
Do you have tonwear a mask when melting silver and gold ?
@mustachemetalworks Жыл бұрын
I don't wear a mask, I don't know anyone who wears a mask for melting
@CuSTACKS Жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks if you melt brass you have to wear a respirator bc of the zinc, zinc is toxic. If you melt karat gold you should wear a mask bc of the other metal contents, but I would assume pure 999 gold and pure 999 silver you would not have to.
@mustachemetalworks Жыл бұрын
I've never used Karat gold up to this point, but when I start, I expect to make my own alloys from copper,silver,gold so I don't have to worry about trash metals being incorporated into the alloy. I do use carbon room filtration when I solder because the smoke that comes off that has.... a special blend.
@VijayVijay-rx1pw2 жыл бұрын
24k gold is very delicate
@FireMarioSonic2 жыл бұрын
How do I get a ring like this without paying $1k over gold value?
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
Best chance: make it yourself. Next best chance: Commission it from a local jeweler who you trust. Noone should be charging 1k over spot for a simple ring like this
@FireMarioSonic2 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks how can I get a list of tools and supplies needed to make things myself using 24k? Is Boric acid the same one used to kill roaches?
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
To start: watch my other 24k gold ring videos. List of tools: hammer, propane torch, cutting tool (chisel or jewelers saw), file, anvil (any big piece of metal), ring mandrel (various sized metal pipes or round sticks), fire-proof surface (potato or charcoal block), eye protection, water in a jar. Don't look at Boric acid... you might have been thinking about borax, which is used as a flux. There's no need to use any flux nor solder while using 24k gold.
@hakimmyassoud58423 жыл бұрын
You can make 2 24k gold ring with 40 Gram ?
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
I could make 4 rings with 40 grams
@hakimmyassoud58423 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks thank for reponse
@chriswalters61483 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you think so!
@kirtandrews18597 ай бұрын
Hi 👋 how many gram to make a 5mm wide size 8 24k gold ring ? I am thinking 3 or 5 gram ?
@mustachemetalworks6 ай бұрын
Perform volumetric analysis for a man, feed him for a day. Teach a man volumetric analysis, feed him for life. Put in your dimensions, convert to volume in cm3, then convert your volume to grams using gold's density. www.omnicalculator.com/math/hollow-cylinder-volume www.aqua-calc.com/page/density-table/substance/gold
@kirtandrews18596 ай бұрын
@mustachemetalworks 0.03tfluid ounces if I have done that correctly. Thanm you for sharing
@timlee3044 Жыл бұрын
What would be the smallest mm you would for mans wedding band?
@mustachemetalworks Жыл бұрын
From a structural standpoint: probably a 2mm x 2mm square wire band. From a design standpoint, I would think the minimum masculine band would be a 4mm wide band with 1.5mm thickness.
@eliiskow3 жыл бұрын
What did you wet the charcoal block with, and why? Did you start with just half of the 20gm bullion?
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
Water! When using charcoal, I always soak it. Charcoal is a pretty amazing tool in this case. It won't foul your gold, even if the gold melts. Carbon and gold don't mix. Mineral soldering blocks will foul melted gold with gross crap. Mineral Soldering blocks are less heat absorbing than charcoal but charcoal has a tendency to.... burn. That's why I soak it; to make the charcoal last much longer. It stops the burn inside the block. Eventually the block will turn into CO2 but hopefully no faster than necessary. Thanks for asking.
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
A pedantic answer to your other question: I started with a 20g bullion... I only melted ~10g of that 20g.
@eliiskow3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick reply. Was curious about the "wet look" since I haven't seen anyone do that. I like how charcoal helps limit oxidation. I asked about the weight you used as I am about to make a gold "surround" to fatten up a skinny platinum / rough diamond ring I made. Going to forge a fat rustic band, cut a groove and inset this skinny platinum band. I liked the way you forged, and with gold as pricey as it is right now, I was trying to gauge the weight I will need to do that. Will probably alloy to 22K for a little extra strength. Thanks again!
@EroticOnion23 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I use ceramic-wool, you don't even need to cut a shape, just form by hand then melt on top! 😎
@pearlynng46393 жыл бұрын
Chris, how can I protect my 24k -gold wedding ring if i want to wear it daily?
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
Burnish the outside on a fairly frequent basis to maintain a work hardened surface. Work hardening is your number one tool to prevent and fix shallow surface marring. Burnishing is easy: rub the gold with a smooth metal tool (burnisher). Prevent deep gouges with your brain: dont drag your gold on sharp metal. -jacob
@gregquinnthrift96323 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information.
@sr9293_ Жыл бұрын
What are the dimensions of this ring?
@JADE-tu8xs2 жыл бұрын
Mr, what fuel/gas are you using ?
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
I used a plumber's MAPP gas torch to melt the ingot. I used a plumber's propane pencil torch to fuse the joint. My MAPP torch outputs many more BTUs than propane and also burns at a hotter temperature. The propane torch is colder and less powerful, which is perfect for delicate fusion.
@ilevakaM9 Жыл бұрын
Did you melt the gold in a graphite mold?
@mustachemetalworks Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, gold should be melted in a non-tainting vessel that doesn't absorb heat from the torch. Graphite is a terrible material to heat metal in because it grabs all the heat. Thermal Conductivity of Graphite = 168 [W/(m K)] Charcoal is a great material to heat metal in because it doesn't absorb much heat at all (and gold doesnt react with carbon). Thermal Conductivity of Charcoal = 0.084 [W/(m K)] see www.engineeringtoolbox.com/thermal-conductivity-d_429.html and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_thermal_conductivities
@ronaldcarew78393 жыл бұрын
I would love to make one. 24k pure gold size 12 men's ring. 10-12 mm. How much would that cost me?
@jeramygrajiola15442 жыл бұрын
$1100.00
@Makermook2 жыл бұрын
Was this a commission piece or just for fun? I've been working silver for a little bit, but I can't bring myself to buy gold to experiment with. Too much downside to f-ing it up.
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
This was a just for fun piece. If you make sure you're on a surface that won't foul your gold, making sure you're keeping the gold clean from crap, you can experiment and melt it down and experiment and melt it down forever!
@lud64412 жыл бұрын
Hello whats the minimum thickness of a ring that wont deform ty
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
I made a 24k gold ring that was as delicate as I feel comfortable making. You can go quite small if you work harden the metal after fusing/soldering. I don't remember the exact dimensions but I started with roughly 12 gauge round wire. See the video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3Wco36gibtgZ5I
@lud64412 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks will check it out thank you, cant wait for more vids
@florinmarc5510 Жыл бұрын
The ring have 20 grams?
@mustachemetalworks Жыл бұрын
No, roughly 8g
@hippiehillape3 жыл бұрын
Omg, I died a thousand deaths watching this. Brutal.
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear you had a good time.
@emelirivett27203 жыл бұрын
How much did the gold cost?
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
This is close to 800usd in gold
@dominicduffy7473 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks More like $6 bro hope you didn't get scammed... www.aliexpress.com/item/32553998080.html This is not real gold... Real 24k gold is actually reddish yellow. Gotta say looks pretty sweet bro and no chance of bending.
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
What now? I buy 0.9999 gold ingots from APMEX and melt them down. Is there a conspiracy I don't know about? Is APMEX somehow manufacturing an ingot with the same density, thermal properties, chemical resilience, tensile strength, and durability as elemental gold? Is the Perth Mint in Australia in on this conspiracy? Is the Valcambi Mint in Switzerland in on this conspiracy? Alert the press
@dafuq63663 жыл бұрын
@@dominicduffy747 lol that shit on aliexpress is gold plated brass. Of course it is 6$
@dafuq63663 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks 🤣🤣🤣
@LMAO-ef3ip3 жыл бұрын
im confused, the ring shown in this video is it 10grams? or made with the full 20 gram bar?
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
I started with roughly half the 20g bar, and I think this ring ended up roughly 8g.
@chrissummerfield95833 жыл бұрын
I'd only buy 22k gold and up now . It holds it's value well unlike low caret jewlry which is a bad investment if brought from New .
@cadensurbey33802 жыл бұрын
Would smelting a 1oz gold coin into a ring be too much gold?/ an ugly big ring?
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
I have made a very nice large man's 24k gold ring at roughly 15g, which is roughly half a troy ounce. A full ounce ring would be very substantial but could be very nice with thoughtfully calculated proportions.
@cadensurbey33802 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks okay awesome! Thanks for the reply. I think I’ll try and make two 15g rings then. What’s your advice on going without the drawing machine? Hoping I can hammer and skip that step somehow?
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
Hammering out the ingot into an elongated rectangular cuboid is a time intensive but very easy process. You'll be fine! I spent the first year without the rolling mill machine; it was just more tedious. Be patient, rotate which side you're hammering frequently, and make sure to anneal often, especially when it seems like your hammer blows aren't doing much!
@mrgreenswelding28532 жыл бұрын
Where are you from? Perth mint would say stralia somewhere. Can I borrow some gold? I don't have quite enough to make my wife earings! Lol! I have 2 grams I refined myself.
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
USA. I would mail you some gold but I'm literally not allowed to ship to AUS
@gregquinnthrift96323 жыл бұрын
What's that machine called that strches the gold out.
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
Its a rolling mill. I use a pepetools mill. I love it. The big expensive name in mills is durston. There exist cheaper cast iron mills available on amazon and etsy.
@BlackBroadwayfilms3 жыл бұрын
How much does it weigh?
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
It weighed around 8 grams. I melted this one back down into another ingot, so it doesnt exist anymore.
@BlackBroadwayfilms3 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks I will check out the other video
@erikmeza51443 жыл бұрын
you soldered it with gold basically
@melin19693 жыл бұрын
yup thats not a forge weld at all
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
@@melin1969 hmmm lets do a quick google on "fused". I never claimed this was a forge weld. This is not a forge weld. This is a fused joint.
@ajaysonane41153 жыл бұрын
Price
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
This bad boy is not for sale because it doesn't exist anymore. If I were to make another, I would price it close to 800USD. Cheers.
@mylove88teeko882 жыл бұрын
عمل جميل اتمنى ان احصل على قطعه
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
أتمنى أن تحصل على العديد من الخواتم
@Jonas_Albert2 жыл бұрын
1:48. That sounded so wrong!!!
@shamarkwoodward15872 жыл бұрын
mapp could make it pop thought
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
Does mapp make things pop? I have never seen mapp pop anything
@Jonas_Albert2 жыл бұрын
You should've filed the sides
@MommaKnowsBestest3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel! O hai childrenssssssss momma.World
@alessiomaistro94463 жыл бұрын
24k gold isn't the most convenient karat, i mean, it's the purest but the ring is probably very delicate and easy to break. This is why a lot of jewelers suggest to buy 18k gold(75% pure gold) istead, because the gold is mixed with a more resistent league such as copper or silver.
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
I make sure to use a lot of material so my 24k rings aren't breakable. Check out my video on squashing 24k gold
@user-ue4yr6bs1v3 жыл бұрын
you sound like a jeweler... I don't trust jewelers
@crli43533 жыл бұрын
"delicate and easy to break"......whomever told you this knows NOTHING about gold. Pure gold will not break it will bend and deform but not break. However, if you make it to stout dimensions the mass of the piece will help to avoid deformation. It is not delicate, it is soft, so highly detailed embossed rings are probably not the best use of high karat gold including 18K. For highly detailed rings 14k is best because it is hard but not so hard to be brittle. The two main reason jewelers don't work in pure 24k are, 1. The Cost and 2. They Don't Know How.
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
I always get nervous about "The Cost", and I barely "Know How", but 24k is so worth it. Keep preaching the good science and design!
@nickwheeler1652 Жыл бұрын
That would be at least $700 not including labor I'm guessing
@mustachemetalworks Жыл бұрын
$64/gram, 10 grams. yea, roughly $700 of material (plus sales tax, plus income tax, plus labor, plus shipping, etc) www.monex.com/gold-prices/
@lakshyaworld50103 жыл бұрын
24 carrat so meliable Only 23C and below this we can make jewellery
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
we can make wonderful strong jewelry from 24k gold
@lakshyaworld50103 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks how
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
Gold is very malleable when it cools from annealing or casting. Work hardening is very important. Since pure gold cant be heat hardened, you can't cast jewelry and expect the structure to maintain its shape under stress. In a few of my videos, I show the work hardening process. You hit the gold with a hammer to make the metal's grain structure change. Work hardening increases the tensile strength and decreases ductility. I have many people wearing my 24k gold jewelry. The metal will superficially scratch and mar but the structure should last a lifetime. I have to design my pieces bigger and "beefier" to withstand everyday stresses. I could not do many intricate designs with 24k gold because of the inherent limitations. However, I do not let that stop me from designing jewelry. Please watch a few more of my videos. I'm not the only one on youtube who makes 24k gold jewelry. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_hardening#Theory
@GrozTheMighty3 жыл бұрын
The scratch resistance is not the same as an alloy gold such as 14k So it will scratch easier of you're dragging it around
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
@@GrozTheMighty Heck yea, that's part of the fun
@alposingleton57443 жыл бұрын
Can i have it
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
No, I melted this one back into a puddle of gold for another project. Sorry bud
@Blackowl442 жыл бұрын
Wow so I can give my jeweler my bullion and just pay for labor
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
I can only assume that's how jewelry was made for hundreds of years.
@voidremoved2 жыл бұрын
Can I get $20 of mustache dust?
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
I'll make a new listing on etsy
@xwqz48133 жыл бұрын
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@lawpilot85262 күн бұрын
1/3/2025 - Useful, because too many steps not shown.
@keytefirerefining13553 жыл бұрын
No such thing as an ugly gold ingot
@mustachemetalworks3 жыл бұрын
You're right though
@wesunderwood84432 жыл бұрын
"Money is no object"......proceeds to sweep up every tiny piece of gold dust.... money must mean something there mister "swole af".....come on man, just be real.
@mustachemetalworks2 жыл бұрын
My comedy isn't for everyone. Thanks for watching though!
@wesunderwood84432 жыл бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks your welcome! I guess some just don't get my comedy either! 🤣