.25-06 Ammo Test!!! [Which one will win???] - Weatherby Vanguard Obsidian

[@garymckee63]

Years ago, I could have purchased a 742 Woodsmaster in 25/06 for 125 dollars and me being an idiot who thought that everything should be in at least 30 caliber passed on it. Well it wasn't the first mistake I ever made 🙂🙃

[@stevendonnalammar4422]

A Remington 742 was never offered in the 25-06 caliber so that one you looked at was probably a custom built rifle, that would have made it even more rare.

[@tehunter6569]

I’m using a .25-06 for the first time this gun deer season in WI. I love the light recoil and inherent accuracy of this round. The rifle likes the 120gr Fusions so I stocked up with enough to last a lifetime. Thanks for another great ammo testing video.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good luck!

[@claw1952]

I've got a Remington 700 BDL in 25-06 I bought back in 1973. Sited in at 100 yards and went hunting. Shot 7 times that year took 7 deer. My gun loved the old 100 grain Remington cor lok bullets. Took more deer with that gun than all of the others put together. The boys at our deer came named it AT&T. They said when they heard that bacon frying they knew it was meat on the ground. We hunted a lot of open bean fields back then. Longest shot was 660 yards.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Great results. Appreciate the demo & data. 25/06 is a proven deer and antelope round that doubles as a great varmint option as will. Coyote and ground hogs at distance are in trouble with 75-90 grain varmint bullets. I had an older gentleman that worked along side me who used the 25/06 on Colorado elk hunts with success for many hunts. They went out every 3-4 years and he typically harvested a decent bull. I believe they were mostly 300-400 yard shots. I don't believe he ever lost an animal. Federal loading with a Nosler Partition of I remember correctly.

[@sindeecharlton8857]

WTW you have enriched my life so much thank you. I have learned so much about guns and such things. I have never even heard about the 25-06. Now I know a little, but it is so much more, it’s about all the guns and all the years of your hard work. Thank You.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I always appreciate you watching Sindee!

[@EricChmelarsky]

Good to see she groups well with different ammo. Mine is a 4 inch shooter with factory ammo. Reload for it, put tons of work in on the cases, neck size, outside trim, and trim to length. Tweaked the load 4831, settled on 100 grain BT. Tweaked the seating depth. Now i group 1 inch at 200 yards 😮. Antelope taken @ 285 yards, bang/flop. Leupold 6-18, fine crosshair, adjustable turret. Who remembers that scope?

[@sirdanoman]

I hunted with my Grandpa's (and now mine) Rem700 .25-06 from age 11 to mid-30's. Everything from antelope to elk. Proper bullet and shot placement. It's a damn laser beam!

[@Derek-rp5yr]

I had Ruger number 1 in 25-06. Loved it. I also reload. Between me and my buddy that got me into reloading and precision shooting. He and I together spent around $500 on different powder, bullets and brass. Trying to get a great shot group with it. And no joke. The old Winchester silver box 120 gr factory bullets always shot a 3/4 inch or better groups. My buddy kept the rifle for over 18 months saying I will find a reload that out does the silver box. But, he failed. El cheapo ammo was the tightest grouping of them all. Only gun I ever owned that shot super awesome with cheap ammo.

[@romeoalphafoxtrot9517]

Great video Adam! That Weatherby is a shooter! I bet with some handloads the groups would shrink some. It's still plenty good enough to take whatever you would want to right now. I hope to have one in the not so distant future. We appreciate your hard work. Well done!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Appreciate you watching

[@ratdaddy7774]

Mr Niedner would appreciate that your keeping his creation alive 😮

[@scottwinkle5503]

I just saw on gunbroker that Reeds guns and ammo has the Weatherby Vanguard Obsidian in 270 for only $449 plus $20 shipping. A pretty good price.

[@33journeyman]

The pragmatic side of me thinks all of the different ammo shot well. That being said its certainly not easy to discount this rifle as it was very forgiving to different loads from many different ammo manufacturers. Vanguards and Howas definitely have it going on in in mid price rifles that the high end rifle companies simply can't ignore. Great review !

[@paulmoss7940]

The FUSION , in any caliber, is a top performer and best buy.

[@tylerepperson4381]

At the end of the video you talked about the 270. Boy did that bring back memories. My first 3 deer one of which is mounted on the wall met the old Remington 700 270

[@TomL3grandsons]

I like that Federal Fusion on deer, it doesn’t tare meat up so bad. Deer hunting was crap this weekend in Missouri with the super moon wind and warm temperatures. I enjoyed your video like I always do.

[@jdibben29]

70 degree weather dang sure didn't do us any favors for sure. I heard shot all around me today but didn't see much myself. I prefer hornady 117 sst myself in my 2506

[@PeterFalconer-cr3pt]

That sucks, what part of Missouri are you in? I’m in the Branson area.

[@PeterFalconer-cr3pt]

Haven’t been hunting in a very long time.

[@jdibben29]

@PeterFalconer-cr3pt i live in the rogersville area but hunt out around fair grove and buffalo

[@aholland2804]

Federal fusion is my go to for all my hunting rifles!

[@dannyneal6194]

About 12 yrs and no deers with the 270! That’s been too long! You need to take that out, but only after you take one with your Ruger in 44 mag! I’m waiting for the 44 mag video! Thanks for the video. Much appreciate the info!

[@oncall21]

Plenty of ‘deer o clock’ in those groups Hooty. Make a nice long range rifle from coyote to deer. I can’t see myself getting a 25/06 with my Winchester Model 70 featherweight in 270. Thanks for sharing!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@maximpestsolutions3696]

Nice to see the different Boolots and their Capabilities 👌. Thanks for the Video Adam 👍. Cheers 🙏🇨🇦✝️

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching. Cheers!

[@tigea9078]

I love the ballistic silver tips on paper and in the field. My savage will clover leaf the stuff. But DOES NOT like a warm barrel. 2 shots tight 3rd flys everytime. No matter the ammo.

[@carypipes]

the fed fusions have been consistently the best factory ammo I've used in the last 10 yrs

[@1bghppy]

When I was a teenager I was gifted my first rifle…a Ruger m77 mkll wood stock, heavy contour blued 24” barrel chambered in 25-06. It’s been shot very little just due to the sentimental value 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Kitty-c5g]

Win supreme ballistic tips are my favorite rounds always shot great for me. It's weird how some guns just shoot dif things better

[@Gokywildcats11]

Whoo tee. Liketo see a best budget friendly slug gun. Slug guns are on rise and comparable with the 350 legend

[@garywhelansr5602]

Check into CVA might have them im looking for the old HR slug gun in 20ga.Tack dtivers

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

@@garywhelansr5602 the H&R Ultra Slug Hunters are becoming extremely hard to find and probably the most accurate slug gun ever made… incredibly good.

[@terrygreen9745]

My vanguard was always just so so with factory ammo. Superformance 117gr sst was the only thing it shot a 1" group for 3 shots. Handloads with 117gr Hornady roundnose and nosler 100gr ballistic tips are great.

[@scottwinkle5503]

Thanks for the great video. I have been looking at the obsidian for a couple of months but yours is the first good review I have found. Now I need to decide if I will get an obsidian in 25-06 or 270 to go with my Vanguard weatherguard bronzes in 223 and 6.5 Creedmoor.

[@brianclair1323]

25 06 is an underrated cartridge.....it may be the ultimate antelope catcher, for sure.

[@benhuntinfish44]

Fusion are the best factory ammo I've found. Norma whitetail are decent also.(For price per round)

[@timhalloran7910]

5 groups, 1st 2 beat out the last 3. Id wager the Winchester ballistic silver tips would rule them all if shot first or by itself, first. Reason being barrel heat. That barrel appears to be skinny-ish. Thx for the content as always!

[@Amado910]

Awesome video! I seen one of those deer catchers at academy but 308 I might have to pick it up

[@vooclan2767]

Thanks for the code I just ordered a scope and the code helped out a lot!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👊👊 Definitely a good code

[@jimm9953]

FYI , The Vangards Barrel and Action in made by HOWA

[@chuckkulick8635]

Another great 25/06 video the 25cal don't shoot over 2in groups unless you got a dog whotee see if Tolliver can find u a .257 roberts lots of us old timers just ❤️ that cartridge just a tad slower than the 25/06 i bet u would luv it great for your sons too got mine rem 722 in 1973 killed loads of deers lots of drt kills too get u 1

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Nice ! They probably started this line because of the success of the ruger american and savage axis , more the merrier !

[@shermdog6969]

This is one of my go to's for antelope along with my 243, 222 swift. The new weatherbys are nothing like the ones from the 80's.

[@RStout59]

I like the silver tip just in case I run into a vampire.

[@IRishbuck58]

Federal makes great ammo👍great content

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@fredilepore8512]

I thick that is a very good choice for a firearm Weatherby Vanguard in 270 win threaded barrel, That will be a great video to watch. God bless see you on your next video.

[@Savage-xl5hq]

Whoo tee you being a man that likes alot of differant calibers you should try a 6.5 by 55 sweed!

[@ratdaddy7774]

💯 totally agree 💯👍

[@chrisclay3112]

I got a 2006 model weatherby howa M1500 heavy barrel 25-06 shot just about every factory load and only round to really hold a group at 200 yards is the Hornady SST 117 grain.. drives tacks wish u would have tried those instead of the hornady rounds.. an they slay the deer smoked one at 485 yards on the head an he went 10 yards an dropped

[@mattrobinson7155]

I’d like to see how it shoots without the can on it

[@GinoDistefano-jf7eh]

Seems you maybe got better Groups with the Howa in 300 Winchester? I surprised. You shoot very well. Is the Barrel on Vanguard a Quality Barrel?

[@Robbie64]

I swear by those winchester silvertips

[@thePrussian]

My first hunting rifle was a Weatherby Vanguard in 30.06. That was about 20years ago.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome

[@JerryWells-z6o]

There's something wacky with that set up WTW, it kicks the 3rd shot out every time hmmm ?????

[@timferguson593]

Trigger on mine is outstanding. Good recoil pad too.

[@DavidVincent-f5l]

So at some point. The ammo boxes will probably include the type of barrel twist best suits the round.

[@rexking3698]

I've had a Weatherby Vanguard for 10 years in 7 mm 08 and it it's awesome

[@WHOTEEWHO]

That's a good one

[@rustyshackleford2723]

Why does the .25 caliber not get the love it deserves? Just too many choices?😮

[@chadperry4021]

@@albertlemont5471hornady is releasing a 138 a-tip with a bc of .698 next year. Imagine a 7 prc necked down to a 25 cal.

[@TODinWY]

@@albertlemont5471 You can get that from Berger for reloads.

[@TODinWY]

@@chadperry4021 It would be a SUPERIOR barrel burner, just like the BEE.

[@chadperry4021]

@@albertlemont5471 25 creed yes but instead of a 25-08, how about doing a 257 roberts ai with a fast twist and a long throat? Or a 25-284 Winchester.

[@chadperry4021]

@@albertlemont5471 yeah I kinda wanna make my first wildcat at 25. There are no wrong answers. 25-6.5 prc would be sweet.

[@stevendonnalammar4422]

I would love to find a 25-06 rifle! But my options are limited being left handed.

[@stevewehner9540]

Looks great, I think I'd like to see the target they sent with the rifle if you have it?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

It didn't come with a target. Not sure what you mean

[@stevewehner9540]

@WHOTEEWHO Weatherby usually puts a range target that's been fired at. They do this as proof of their moa guarantee.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

@stevewehner9540 I've bought many many weatherby rifles. Never once had one come with a target. 🤷‍♂️

[@DylanBatten-y2r]

Where did you find the 115gr Winchester ballistic silver tips?! I’ve shot those for years in my Remington 700 and can’t find any in Texas!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Bought it years ago

[@robertnapier8681]

My Weatherby Vanguard 308 love those silver tips

[@Gokywildcats11]

Im ready for this.

[@BlackArcher221]

It's tough being a left hander, otherwise I would have a slew of those. I have a vanguard in .257 Weatherby and love it but, can't stand having that bolt handle in my face. Roy Weatherby's favorite.

[@jimmyholliman7103]

Can't wait Adam

[@RidgeRunneR937]

Thanks for the quick comparison. I love my 25-06. Mine is a Remington Sendaro with fluted barrel. It loves Winchester 120 grain positive expanding points which I have a hard time finding. Keep up the good work.

[@davewagner2960]

Who tee who, want better groups with your guns? Try 100gr for the 25-06, most rifles twist rate are common with the grain of bullet, like 6.5 use a 140gr, 25-cal use 100, and 30-cal use 150gr. It will help little specially looking up each guns twist rate and a twist rate chart. Federal fusion and just Federal all good, hornady no good loading and bought, and Winchester you got lucky with that group.

[@kearneydillon4803]

You need to sit a Garmin or Labradar on the bench next to you. A lot of viewers enjoy knowing realistic velocity data when seeing videos. There is a lot of "blue sky" in some makers speed data. Your videos are excellent, satisfying all-meat no-filler. To make it a total-pro show, use the chrono. AND make sure to specify barrel length. I have a 25-06 with a 22" barrel and with my chrono, I get 200f/s less with some loads with just a 2" shorter than standard barrel.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I hear ya. I do try to include chrono when I can. In this case I was in a big hurry and adding the chrono means adding another camera and making the editing a lot more complicated. Bringing the chrono more often

[@ChristopherKnN]

The new little pocket sized Garmin is awesome.

[@HazardousRob]

That doesn't help the issue he's talking about though

[@TacticallyTasty]

I was JUST thinking about the 25-06. Who_Tee_Who always comes through!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🙏🙏🙏 appreciate you watching

[@Eric--zs6um]

Like the rifle. If you get to handloading for it, give Speer 87 TNT a try. Fast. Flat. Puts the hurt on varmints. Be waiting.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Nice

[@waynemayle865]

I run 82 85 an 87gr berger bullets the 82 an 85 are no longer made but you can still find the 87gr . The speer 87gr are extremely accurate as well

[@Gioeli76]

When we getting that 10 gauge???

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I need to get to that soon

[@garymckee63]

@@WHOTEEWHO Yes 👍

[@waynemayle865]

They stopped making ammo for the 10 ga.don't believe me look it up

[@TheWVgoodguy22]

Nice educated guess once again Adam. Federal for the win again, although the Remington ammo shot good the other day too. Even though Vanguards or Howas don’t come in left hand 🫲 I like them. I as a longtime owner of a 270 Win, you definitely need to get one again.

[@InTheYear]

This is gonna be awesome 🇺🇸💪🇺🇸👍🇺🇸

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👀👀👀

[@jamesmikesell5458]

My favorite handload for the 25/06 is 49.5 grn of imr4831 and 100grn sierra game king

[@Glenn-j2e]

Shoots well with a cool name👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@vincewolf5142]

Adam, u don’t do much with monolithic bullets. Ever tried them?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yes I have

[@ronwagner9940]

Zero my 25 ought 6 in with 115 grain Barnes boat tail ballistics and was able to cover my three shots with a penny at 325 yd

[@Shadytreemechanic77]

Someone needs to buy you a garmin or labradar lx so you could include velocities in your videos to show multiple ammo manufacturers ammo consistency. Since you shoot every ammo and cartridge known to man 👍👍

[@RayRay-zc2ed]

I would love to see a video on the Bergara B14 Stoke in 22-250. Would it make a good lightweight and accurate coyote rifle?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Be awesome

[@traviswelch7350]

Need to do a video with ttsx 100gr for the 25-06

[@howarddeheer8295]

I had a 25 x284 and everybody I talk to for reloading told me to use 25 06 loads I traded that rifle to a friend for a custom built 6.5 x 55 Swede

[@reapergrim76]

25-06 is awesome stuff! 👌 😊

[@triplej4043]

Can't wait the .270...get it in the Trail Hunter

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good idea

[@janbastein7355]

Awesome cartridge! One should just use stout bonded bullets. Don’t use Hornady frangible junk!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

2506 is pretty awesome

[@keithsewell8906]

Add a Timney trigger and watch the group size shrink.

[@joelmacha1454]

I guess I must be too much of a perfectionist. I had a camo patterned Weatherby Vangaurd in 25-06 and got the same results with over 20 different loads. 2 touching or in the same hole and 3rd shot always a flier. 5 shot groups are even worse. I got rid of the rifle because of that. For me, if it can't consistently put 3 shot groups in a half inch cloverleaf or less, it's not accurate enough for me. Now my old Remington 700 long range rifle in 25-06 will circumcise a gnat at 100 yards as long as I do my part.

[@robertwies6806]

Looks like a winner.

[@billylee2312]

I have yet to find a gun that likes the hornady eldx the best

[@gunman-6646]

I have never seen any Hornady ammo do any good. Compared to Federal, Winchester, or Remington.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I've had some of the 6 and 6.5 do good

[@TGC1775]

190 sub-x 300blk vs deer is mint!

[@ChristopherKnN]

X and M run sub MOA in my 6.6 CM and my 6.5 Grendel. Those are the only factory loads I run except for. 22LR.

[@michaelwhisman345]

Been waiting on this video

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@georgemcclary-yk7rx]

I took two deer last year with whitetail 117 gr. Out of older Remington 700 worked but wasn't that impressed with the bullet weight

[@brunoterlingen2203]

Please remember that this rifle is made by Howa, there you go.

[@nikos6220]

How come the precision hunter is almost never the most precise? 😁

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🤣🤣🤣 I dunno

[@nikos6220]

@@WHOTEEWHO must be your shooting set up and not the Hornady marketing to blame. I am pretty sure the left ear on the rear rest had a 5 degree off angle when you shot the most precise ammo on the planet

[@ChristopherKnN]

Because MOD is a larger measurement than MOA.

[@bowhuntrrl]

Seems that it's always the third shot that throws. The barrel doesn't like heat and I bet it swells enough to touch somewhere on the third shot. Try the old dollar bill trick under the barrel after the second shot to find tight points. In reality, Vanguards are Howa actions and probably barrels.

[@chadschlosser5683]

All my vanguards do not have a free floated barrel. Not saying that this one does but I’m betting it will not

[@chrisaerts6489]

Threaded barrel is needed.

[@pwmiller5759]

Looks great to me 👌👌

[@arthurhelm2018]

Is 25-06 a long or short action. Also would this round work on hogs?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Be fine on hogs

[@davidbezuidenhout5939]

Try a Sauer 100 in 270Win - fantastic!

[@deniscullis8518]

Nice vids matey xden

[@ericwlindauer3786]

Have you ever tried the lighter bullets 90 87 70 75?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Not yet

[@linkbond08]

Like a 243 in a 30-06 case???

[@traviswelsh941]

Seems like a lot of value for the money.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I agree

[@e.l.robbins5614]

I like 25 cal anything on deer sized game. ARKEN or Leupold VX Freedom, I’ll take the ARKEN every time.

[@BullseyeBenR]

I’ve never shot 25-06. How it compare to 30-06? Smaller and faster I’m assuming

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup. Exactly

[@BullseyeBenR]

@ I wonder how similar it is to 243 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@dyouden]

Hard to beat the federal fusion for deer

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🦌🦌🦌

[@Gokywildcats11]

Wbat reticle do you use in your arken. Never shot bdc always shot plex

[@WHOTEEWHO]

The precision reticle

[@Gokywildcats11]

​@WHOTEEWHO what is your go to arken scope and range

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

I’m looking to add another Weapon to my Family, but I’m really unsure what brand and Caliber. I’m kinda leaning towards a 270 Winchester. I want a Weapon with an Adjustable Trigger, Yes I am a Trigger Snob. I can’t stand a Trigger that isn’t Perfect and breaks as Clean and Crisp as a Glass Rod. So what would you suggest?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

A great trigger is gonna cost you. I lean towards the budget friendly stuff

[@nathanakins6072]

Tikkas have adjustable triggers that are at the top of factory options imo break very very nicely.

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

@ Yeah 👍, that’s one of the Rifles I was considering. I used to have one several years ago Chambered in 300 WSM. It was a great shooter. I killed several Deer with it, but it Killed on one end and Crippled on the other end. I have severe Neck and Shoulder problems. I’m recovering from a recent Shoulder Surgery, I had 5 Anchors placed in my Shoulder due to a Complete Labrum Tear.

[@davidh6818]

​@@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984 with those kind of health problems,why not get a smaller caliber rifle that won't knock your shoulder off? I've had great luck with a 7mm-08,but there are several calibers with light recoil that will get the job done(243,6.5 or 6mm Creedmoor,etc).I also have had neck and shoulder surgery so I feel your pain,it's hard for me to shoot those big calibers with a ton of recoil so I just don't.

[@HowManyLegsItHas]

It's been two days, catch a deer with the 460 already!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🤣🤣🤣 season not open yet

[@HowManyLegsItHas]

Darn!

[@michaelbaker4770]

Some say the twist rate of 25-06 is not sufficient to stabile bullets over 100 grains. 120 g is not the sweet spot. Please test lighter bullets 89 g even 79. I this of the 2506 as comparable to 22-250, light fast flat.

[@bugle247]

Sweet shooting rig for the price