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[@lucianobrito1276]

Hello, I'm from Brazil and this accident happened in a city in the interior and what is known the cause of the accident was that the passenger next to the pilot held the cyclic and your comparison with safety is very valid, unfortunately the people who operate these tours are very lax about security. Hug from Brazil.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you for the feedback!

[@staircapades]

Were the people in the helicopter okay?

[@lucianobrito1276]

@@staircapades Yes, they had minor injuries

[@MYGM350]

A good bieffing before each flight, it's very not expensive and very profitable, the same for the fitting around the landing area and staff. We still have people who spend a few hundred thousand on a helicopter and are unable to pay a few hundred on the structure

[@davidwallace5738]

Great example of professional vs amateur. Thank you sir.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you David!

[@JV-tk3nn]

Agree. A professional would have kept the helicopter in the screen frame throughout the whole ordeal.

[@stevenbrannen1568]

I know this is an older video. Years ago my wife and I did a ride at an airshow in the PA area. The pilot refueled right before we were to ride. I was a fixed wing student at the time and decided to question if we would be over weight. I weighed much more than I looked. Even my doctor was surprised at how much more that I looked. The message I got back was thanks and it would have been to much. they took next in line and we got on the next one,

[@HelicopterGround]

Steven, thanks for sharing your story.

[@tonywilson4713]

@@HelicopterGround Nice video. I'm a fixed wing PPL with aerobatics and what you are saying here about being *ORGANISED* holds true in any form of aviation. It also holds true in industry. I have been involved in mine site construction for most of the last 20 years and you have just described so many activities I see on construction sites. I have also done some time in oil & gas where I was introduced to helicopter ops. Everything you said about being organised was practiced there. Being organised = safety. Why I looked at your video is because there are some idiots trolling Juan Brown over on his Blancolirio channel about recent R44 'Cadet' crash in Rowlett Texas, where its suspected "mast bumping" was a factor. Juan is a very experienced fixed wing and its obvious he knows helicopter people but that hasn't stopped idiots being idiots.

[@bigimskiweisenheimer8325]

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[@jhoughjr1]

that small thing might have saved lives

[@danielc9312]

@@jhoughjr1 it seems like most commonly it's the small things that cause accidents when it's pilot error.

[@Mr572u]

I flew in Galveston yesterday and everything was done right, just as you described here. No problems, and very enjoyable flight.

[@HelicopterGround]

Awesome thanks for sharing!

[@m118lr]

When I transitioned to the Schweizer 300-series (and Hughes 269 predecessor combined), I didn’t look back. Having started in the R22 at a ‘satellite’ school BEFORE they yanked it..I was left with about 30-40+ hours in it, but not enough for my private ride. When I transitioned..I couldn’t have been happier. There’s a reason the joke “Made by Mattel” floats around OUTSIDE Robinson helos. No way would I own one IF I had the money to actually own a personal ride. Glad I got my private in the Schweizer 300..

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@sachertorte64]

m118lr: Robinsons are heinous looking.

[@obsoleteprofessor2034]

When I was in the Air Force, I saw a gust of wind lift a blade which allowed a droop stop to pop out. As the blade came around, it chopped into the top of the cabin and then the pieces went flying. It was a big 53 and the blade came down to about 4 feet towards the front. It could have taken someone's head off. We always approached from the side and then only when we got the (co)pilots attention.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for sharing!

[@energyefficient2247]

0:23 the guy is running up to the Helicopter before it is even stable on the ground, with no clue how fast the blades will kill you, if it tips toward you.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting.

[@Travis_22]

Ex-military helicopter crew myself, watched the 'how not to do it' shaking my head... utter chaos there. Your company showing the absolutely correct procedures afterwards. Great video, thanks for posting!

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you Travis!

[@kennyj4366]

There is NOTHING more valuable than experienced insight. Thank you for sharing it with us.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you for the feedback!

[@letsgobrandon7112]

“He’s got a heavy load on this one” Hell yea, the front passenger was definitely a heavy load. 😂

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@stephen5147]

That takeoff (blue R44) in the middle of the video - you said "That looks pretty good." Question: Instead of accelerating in ground effect, looks like he may have pulled up into "dead man's curve" ??

[@rumbler900]

servo lock perhaps had that in a 350b2 once

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback

[@pjmtts]

There is a helicopter tour co that operates near me. Never hovers never checks and takes off like a jet and lands like a cowboy on a roped bull all closer to 50ft to power lines and a road. I would say for them it’s equally about money as well as hotdog showboating.

[@HelicopterGround]

Yep unfortunately the pursuit of the all mighty dollar makes people do stuff they shouldn't!

[@Whirlynerds]

I've watched many of these over time but it's great to get some professional feedback on the whole situation.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you we appreciate that very much!

[@Vfourmike]

at 4:34 there is one thing I'd point out. The front seat passenger is holding her bag on her lap and door removed. Having worked with people who have had accidents due to loose articles departing the aircraft into the tail rotor, I just thought it was worth mentioning. But the two operations are totally different. Everyone needs to be safe around helicopter ops. Thanks for the video.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting!

[@1asdfasdfasdf]

Private fixed wing pilot here. I take the time to brief my passengers prior to every flight and also when approaching a field as to what to expect when landing.

[@HelicopterGround]

Great! Exactly how it should be!

[@bobbybrown1738]

I don't know much about helicopters at this point; but, in the first video, it appears to me that ALL of the participants (pilot, passengers, and onlookers) had NO respect for aircraft.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting

[@davidlegeros1914]

Outstanding work! I plan to show this to my students and fellow instructors with your permission!

[@HelicopterGround]

Go for it! Thanks!

[@HelicopterGround]

Feel free to share.

[@davidallyn1818]

Great video - thanks!! Did the pilot that performed that landing *switch off* with another pilot while the helicopter was running? How safe is that?? Also, rushing to make money... even if you did a "heavy" set down (no people are harmed, no crash), the subsequent safety inspection and possible maintenance on the aircraft would offset any extra money you'd make from rushing. These are the reasons we (in the U.S.) have an FAA to establish and enforce rules.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting!

[@jhoughjr1]

Been seeing a lot of crashes, looks to my untrained eye too low rpm and rotor wobble at take off>

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you for the feedback!

[@msmrepo3271]

As ex Army Air Corps watching this, makes me glad all my flying was with professional people.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@msmrepo3271]

@@HelicopterGround Your welcome, thanks for the vids 😀

[@ddtddt8493]

We do the same. Orange vests and escorting passengers from the front of the machine with clear instructions to never move past the back end of the skids. We operate in an airport which has four other schools including gliders and their tows. Prefer to overkill than just kill Walk behind airplanes and in front of helicopters.

[@devildogkilo]

DDT DDT That’s because you got your stuff together. In my Military status, we are on BlackHawks often. But we make sure people are moving through a single controlled channel to get to the aircraft and you can see the PIC and Co-Pilot going through a quick GUMPS check,they pick-up quick systems check and we are on mission. Basics Basics Basics!!!

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for sharing DDT!

[@Flying_GC]

Fixed wing instructor here, to add, if a fixed wing is running, just dont go near it otherwise far enough in front to be safe and pilot to see you. Walk behind if you want to get blown into a fence which I've seen happen. Yes walk in front of Helos about 45deg is what we do

[@jhoughjr1]

Issac Arthur's first rule of warfare, there is no such thing as overkill.

[@michelgardes]

I'm Brazilian and I could tell that that "chaos" looked very Brazilian before even seeing the helicopter registration.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for sharing.

[@maxflight777]

Portugal can be like that too ! 😂

[@garethgordon9141]

Great video and good analysis. As an ATP, CFI & CFII I feel your pain Kenny. To students, and even seasoned pilots, the dynamic instability of a helicopter can never be emphasised enough. The speed with which a slight concern about attitude becomes an accident is frightening. This looks to me like too much and too fast a left input, potentially approaching dynamic rollover, and then over-controlling to correct (from the way it returned to vertical) to the right. We did not see the full sequence of control inputs leading to the crash. Hopefully a passenger did not intervene and the controls on that side had been removed - if not then a further example of unprofessional flying and management. Due to the fact that a helicopter is unstable then any unusual attitudes will not be resolved as they might be in a fixed wing aircraft where, generally speaking, letting go of everything will allow the aircraft to return itself to a stable flying condition. If you are careless or unlucky enough to find your self in a developing unusual attitude in a helicopter then you must have the presence of mind to respond appropriately and proportionately to correct it without over controlling. The least safe link in the chain of aviation is a poorly trained and unprofessional pilot. But it doesn't have to be that way and hopefully all your viewers are online to avoid being in that category. I retired in 2011 so enjoyed this video. One useful tip I have is to remember that "the man who never made a mistake, never made anything' but on the basis of learning from the mistakes of others I read a lot of accident reports, both FAA and UK CAA and they can be very sobering reminders of what you should not do when you have the stick and the lives of others in your hands. Thanks for the video Kenny and safe, fun and professional flying to all of you

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for sharing.

[@lvgeorge]

Safety First, Always! This eliminates 90% of what else can go Wrong! Agree with Kenny 100% Great message in this Video! Thumbs UP!

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the awesome feedback George!

[@pimuce]

LASVEGAS GEORGE stupid Guy impossible to film at The moment who the copter crashes ! We see nothing

[@lvgeorge]

@@pimuce What did you just say, garbled message,,, makes no sense!

[@pimuce]

LASVEGAS GEORGE sorry but i just wanted to say that we don’t see the helicopter crash on this video ! The camera always moves when Robinson helicopter fall !

[@deweywatts8456]

I learned something today. Thanks.

[@HelicopterGround]

Dewey, thats great and thanks for commenting.

[@DeathBlossom867]

"He's got a heavy load on this one..." I think we can all agree with you there.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting.

[@iangunn49]

Hahahah, was looking for this comment....

[@jackshittle]

Like my retired Blackhawk pilot & now medivac pilot friend says (regarding Robinson); belts are for holding your pants up - not helicopter engines/transmissions. I should have gotten a helo license after I got out of the Navy rather then fixed wing (got that license in the summer of 1995). Too late now that I'm 50, single dad, lack of time & $$$. But myself & daughters still go on flights once a year while in FL. Great times, cheers!

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@marcelopereque]

this accident was here in Brasil the passager touched in the ciclico, you give for us a greats exemplos to learn more in the Aviation KENNY A HOPE TO CAN FLY WITH YOU A DAY THERE IN USA

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@williamheyman5439]

So I am 83 years old. Was on the Test and Evaluation Team for the 11the Air Assault Division, at Fort Benning, Georgia, which was reflagged as the 1st Cavalry Division to go to Vietnam. Went to Vietnam. Got an Air Medal. All helicopters. Crashed into the Mekong with a bad transmission, but the pilot did the auto-rotation perfectly just 10 feet off the bank. We all walked out, because we were trained to know what to do. So listen to the man. This is good stuff. You can not go wrong by taking in everything you can about helicopters. Even the bad stuff can teach you something. If you are not in it. And you won't be if you take in these lessons.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for sharing William!

[@phapnui]

Usually a bad transmissions stops the autorotation and you drop

You mention maybe somebody bumped the controls, the passenger sitting in front does not appear to move nor does it appear theres dual controls but it's not definitive there is another set

[@HelicopterGround]

We do not know exactly what occurred, the comment about possibly bumping controls was mentioned since there have been many accidents where that has actually happened. Wish we knew all the facts to be sure. Thanks for commenting.

[@DobermansRock]

In the Army I always made sure to give a 100% safety briefing to my passengers. We didn't care if bullets were flying. They needed to listen.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting!

[@cleysonfreire1049]

Hi, I like too much your videos. The crash has happened in Brazil and the cause was a flight tour with double command installed. A mobile phone of the passsenger dropped down inside cockpit when that passenger tried to pick up it pushing the collective forward spoiling the pilot during take off. Its so bad because neither aircraft and pilot was not prepared to perform that kind of flight.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you for the feedback!

[@jonesbugattis]

In any situation where passengers can, would, might or will have access to flight controls, do not get in!

[@HelicopterGround]

Good call!

[@mr.badnade3309]

The funny since you can remove the flight controls on Robi's, so why they didn't do that is beyond me. I remember a video of some girl getting ready to pull the rotor brake after the pilot tapped it to make sure it was all the way in. Could've been a deadly flight.

[@jonesbugattis]

@@mr.badnade3309 That one would have just smoked the brake until the pilot could break her arm..

[@ChevTecGroup]

Reported a similar situation of a "famous" movie helo selling rides after working with a good crew. These guys were literally landing the bird with the next set of passengers almost within the rotor disk. It was nuts.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for sharing!

[@randybaumery5090]

I'm very lucky. The 2 R22 flights I took a few years ago went smoothly.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@randybaumery5090]

@@HelicopterGround personally I loved those rides. I love that helicopter too.

[@spankyharland9845]

this is why in this day and age we don't have flying cars- us regular people can't even drive regular cars let alone have a family owned cartel helicopter.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for sharing

[@davidnorman2134]

Had a similar situation working at a resort, had a passenger hop in, their camera neck strap snagged on the pin that holds the T bar in on the cyclic, we were climbing out, he looked out his left side and then turned with his camera to take shots, jerking the cyclic control to the left. I man handled it to keep control, and asked him to remove the strap from the pin, couldn't have happened in any worse timing, this is why the manual says to make sure there's no loose objects around, another flight i had a passengers silk scarf whirling around the cockpit then being sucked out the left door, luckily it wasn't pulled into the rotor system

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@WConn100]

Did the front seat passenger have controls? Good idea to remove the controls from the other seat.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@WConn100]

@@HelicopterGround Sloppy landing/sloppy take off.

[@TheRantingCabbie]

I only have a bit of knowledge about helicopters, but I'm thinking he gave it too much forward cyclic and not enough collective. And at the same time perhaps he got away from his rotor wash too quickly causing some type of stall. And what sealed his fate was overcompensating.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting

[@devildogkilo]

Like you always teach: Take Off is a Two Step Process ever time. Rushing into a unknown situation is never good, and every time you fly it’s an unknown situation. Different people get in and out, changes in CG and other things happen. Two Step Process saves time and lives...

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you Clarence!

[@paulymac5513]

I think that's it, different weight and CG, didn't hover long enough, he over corrected.

[@donaldreach760]

Military precision at it's safest and best. Well done.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting

[@randomentertainment8927]

One of these just crashed behind my neighborhood. Pilot and passenger killed. Tail broke off during flight, they tried coming down for an emergency landing but it just wildly spun until it tilted whe wrong way, main rotor shredded and it fell out of the sky

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting!

[@cptairwolf]

This video outlines the importance of following procedures regardless of how many hours you have behind a heli/airplane

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting!

[@sammyday3341]

As an engineer, I really appreciate how orderly things were with Chris.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you for the feedback!

[@campacolasworkshop6042]

I am no pilot, but just wondered if it would have been safer to not have the blades running whilst passengers were entering? Just in case someone did accidently touch the controls whilst getting seated?

[@HelicopterGround]

Yes best to have blades stopped.

[@lautburns4829]

Great info!

[@HelicopterGround]

Glad it was helpful!

[@g0d77]

'He's got a heavier load on this one'! 🤣 Nice narration!

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@johnnydavidcreative]

Great informative video. Who were those clowns at the beginning? Oh my word! We had higher safety measures at our "model" helicopter field - no excuse for that. Enjoyed the video. Best regards, johnny :-)

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for sharing!

[@maxflight777]

Spot on comment about lowering the collective with the yaw on ! ✅

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@marcs990]

Makes me think of my army days, when we were waiting to get onboard we were in 2 “sticks or chalks” basically 2 lines offset at 90 degrees, we await the go ahead from the crew chief before we can even approach the aircraft, once the go ahead is given then line 1 moves towards the aircraft, waits at 90 degrees from the rear, then we had another hand sign to board, once everyone had their seats then chalk 2 can board, obviously whilst being shot at things r a bit different but I can’t think of any time when the pilots did anything rash or dangerous, yes we had some very sporty landings & takeoffs but all this is prebriefed n at no time did anyone do anything without the approval of a member of the crews.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@americanmonster8342]

I like to run over and do the fan voice thing at the tail rotor 😀

[@HelicopterGround]

Good luck with that.

[@douglashoff95]

Seems like a lot of accidents with R44's compared to any other including JetRangers and AStars.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting Douglas!

[@225degrees]

The Robinson family are the most produced, sold, and used helicopters on the planet. It's simple mathematics.

[@kstax9225]

225degrees 100%

[@cadilacdesert]

Plum effect. Pilot should have rotated on vertical using ground affect. Ground effect is free power. Relative wind at 15knots entering rotor system is key.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting

[@jeremylakenes6859]

Pilot got out?

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting!

[@jeremylakenes6859]

Didn’t really answer the question

[@regwatson2017]

There should be a way to disable all controls on the front passenger seat.

[@HelicopterGround]

The controls can be removed.

[@jerichobrookfarm8525]

Keep up the awesome videos Kenny.

[@HelicopterGround]

I will thank you Jeff!

[@196520101965]

With regards to wind direction, if he landed into the wind, he didn’t take off into the wind and put a large load on the helicopter.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting!

[@richie2564]

Great educational material

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you!

[@flyerh]

Good procedures on the second helicopter,my only comment would be point the helicopter at the entry point of the passengers where the pilot and ground crew have the best visibility with each other and the tail rotor is furthest away from everyone.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting.

[@davesmith8265]

Is it just me or are there a lot of close calls in trying to get loaded up and someone almost meets his or her maker by walking too close to the tail rotor? I took my first flight at 10 years old and remember a guy walking up and seemed to have no clue what was about to happen. I was walking with a staff member to get on while the pilot cut the throttle and screamed at him.He finally stopped and was allowed to take the other seat. I don't remember how that issue panned out. Even at that age I knew that rotor don't care who it hits. And I have seen the exact thing more than once since then.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting.

[@JetFire9]

Look at the main rotor blades before the pickup. They are wobbling. Something was wrong with the helicopter before he tried to take off, and that's what caused the crash.

[@HelicopterGround]

Rotor system does wobble. Unknow why. Could have been over controlling, passenger touching controls. I just dont know full story.

[@RandyBaumery-s4i]

I wish that people would stay focused on video recording. This looks like a Doberman pincher was attacking their butt right as the action started.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting

[@RandyBaumery-s4i]

@@HelicopterGround I've taken rides on Robinsons and loved the view. I've since changed my mind on ever doing that again due to numerous videos by professional pilots. Thank YOU for freely sharing information.

[@heliguy7357]

Jumped into it like a NY taxi, Too cool for rules.

[@HelicopterGround]

Yep!

[@ronstrong9560]

What was the FAA/NTSB, or equivalent if in another country, findings?

[@HelicopterGround]

I do not know.

[@gulfair-cavalry-tango1011]

You're right, as usual, Kenny!

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@SkypowerwithKarl]

The first one wasn’t a kick of the rudder peddle. In thinking the passenger perhaps pulled off some clothing or somehow bumped the cyclic and the pilot was too late and low to save it. Yes the whole thing was a mess and an accident waiting

[@HelicopterGround]

Karl Jensen thanks for commenting!

[@danfuller648]

I agree, passengers can not kick a cyclic control. Pilot over reacted and pulled back on the cyclic control allowing the tale rotor to strike the ground.

[@_datapoint]

Well done.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks!

[@grumpy1311]

Heli rides at a local county fair a few years ago... I stayed well clear of that ... 🚁

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting.

[@LuizFernando-pj4rp]

Hi Kenny. I posted a comment just a few days ago on your video about that sad fatal accident in Brazil with the bride going to wedding. This one now I'm 200% sure happened in Brazil too, although I haven't seen the original video. Do you have the link of it? Many irregular small companies offering scenic helicopter rides in my city, Sao Paulo, as well as many other. Reckless and irresponsible private pilots carrying on commercial activities. If they're caught they'll pretend that passengers are friends with them, everybody enjoying a flight with no money involved. In addition, such nasty breed of pilots love to show off skills that often they don't have and also they fly very low over parks supposed to be peaceful places. That makes me ashamed and pissed off.

[@LuizFernando-pj4rp]

I've found and watched the original video and yes, again it's really happened in Brazil as I've supposed. There are good and bad professionals in all kind of activities over the whole world. In Brazil there are many extremely skilled and professional pilots such as Esquadrilha da Fumaca team. The point I'd like to make is that bad pilots doing this kind of shit are a shame for their colleagues and for Brazilian people once these videos viralize. So I hope that those good ones watch over the others in order to avoid keep on putting lifes at risk and making us a reason for jokes

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback Luiz!

[@jimmayors2315]

Agree with all your comments, but was baffled why the helicopter dipped to the left as he half pedal turned, half cyclic turned. He lost lift just enough to bounce a skid, and in the process of correcting for that unexpected left side down, he seemed to cyclic back and had ground contact with the tail (and tail rotor). It was not on video as the camera person scrambled, but when when it comes back to the helicopter on it's side, the tail rotor looks like it hit too. Also, it didn't look like there was enough time for the pax to properly secure their seat belts, and the person loading them didn't really verify it had been done, if that had anything to do with the left side down motion (doubtful).

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you Jim!

[@mrwilliamreece]

like your channel tyler texas over and out.stay safe

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you for the feedback!

[@hoping67]

Pilot clearly wasn't drunk enough,a few more beers and it would have been golden 👌👌

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@RoadRunnerLaser]

"We don't have time for that"... In that case, you don't have time to visit your passengers in hospital or attend their funerals, so do it right ! Cowboy operations in aviation are amongst my top pet-hates.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for sharing!

[@RoadRunnerLaser]

Helicopter Online Ground School - I quite enjoy watching your videos. I'm not a heli pilot and I've never even been up in a heli but I do fly an autogyro and I find that watching videos about other types of aircraft can be informative and improve my overall standard of airmanship.

[@ericshimer6669]

Feel the same way as a truck driver. 80,000 pounds of weight is no time to play outlaw. Not worth losing my license and prison for life and people dead from it.

[@ron6892]

Great Analysis….18,000 pilot …the importance of a hover check and a steady departure can’t be over emphasized

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@ron6892]

@@HelicopterGround your welcome ..just discovered your channel great resource for the youngsters and something for the old dogs also!

[@cliffterrell4876]

You can't be fast in a helicopter like that. Fast is dangerous. Do stupid things, the bird will dump your ass on it's side. Slow and smooth is always safe, always.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you for the feedback!

[@modquad18]

Seems like giving random people rides is a recipe for disaster. Who knows, a passenger could have grabbed that pilot during takeoff. People are just too darn unpredictable.

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback

[@greatwhite9428]

The safest way to fly around in a Robinson is to not fly around in a Robinson

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback

[@G.Harley.Davidson]

We’ve had these discussions for years now, and the question remains if theRobbies are always in the accidents because there are more out there on the”road “.

[@Steeyuv]

I’d like to know how that question still remains! This is why I drive a Ferrari - you hear of so few accidents...

[@devildogkilo]

With any Helicopter it comes down to the Pilot control operations. This was clearly poor planning, rushed take off, GUMPS not verified. We can Monday Night Quarterback all day, but it comes down to PIC failure on take off.

[@G.Harley.Davidson]

Steeyuv i like your taste!

[@G.Harley.Davidson]

Steeyuv yea this pilot was not on his game .

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@grahamjordan1040]

I flew one of these years ago with no training it’s so easy so what’s all the fuss about

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@briandickinson825]

Some people rush to get their wing too early. Theres no way i will go in one of them things🥴

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting

[@matthewstuart2054]

What is it with the Robinson and dumb pilots

[@slo3337]

During a training exercise in the army we had multiple casualties from people doing stupid stuff too close to the heli. They were blackhawks which have a very low rotor height in front. Someone ran wide and was killed, another thought running around the back of the heli was a good idea, also died. These events happened on the same night but not the same heli. As far as I know the helis were not damaged. So be careful around helicopters, they are good at giving Darwin awards!

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for commenting

[@tylerbuckley2092]

In the first video looked like the pilot was either show boating or over controlled the tail rotor by the look of it

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@ahmedhumayunrasheed2434]

Kenny I think somebody pushed left pedal and turned the T-Bar cyclic

[@HelicopterGround]

Thanks for the feedback

[@ahmedhumayunrasheed2434]

@@HelicopterGround Welcome! But was I right?

[@HelicopterGround]

Yes I am assuming passenger interfered with controls!

[@helicopter2630]

Totally agree with everything you said. 👍

[@HelicopterGround]

Thank you for commenting!

[@markferguson3365]

There is always time for safety!

[@HelicopterGround]

Absolutely!

[@jeremylakenes6859]

This is Brazil... most Brazilian pilots are very careless. Look up Helicoptero Rodeio and you’ll crap your pants.

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[@jonnie2bad]

i see a sign for helicopter rides, ah cool sounds fun.. I pull up and see an R44, i turn around and don't look back.

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[@Mike-01234]

It was obvious there was no passenger briefing as soon as they got in he took off passenger doing something would not surprise me. In a helicopter not sure why passengers even ride up front, but every time I have taken a ride with them they always put someone up there to fill the seats.

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[@Texas240]

On the first one, based on the fact that the pilot did a rotation while landing and then again rotating when he took off, it looked intentional and probably to make the paid flight more exciting. It definitely was more exciting. It's a case of "I've never had a problem doing it!" until they have a problem doing it.

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[@YARROWS9]

You wouldn't get me in one of those hedge trimmers, ever!

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[@jhoughjr1]

yeah I see no wobble in the second video shown.

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[@clowesgaming8274]

i know this is a stupid question but in your opinion whats the biggest mistake a helicopter pilot can make

[@HelicopterGround]

Flying into bad weather!

[@clowesgaming8274]

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[@theoldman8877]

As a pilot. That pilot did not have time to brief the front seat passenger about staying clear of the controls.

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[@amitsunkur8127]

this helicopter has the most number of crashes ?! why

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[@OOTurok]

I know the mast is pretty tall on the R44... but let's all just 🎶 raise our hands cuz we're Sure✊🎵

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[@VictoryAviation]

I’d take instruction from your friend. Not a snowball’s chance in hell from the dip sh*t at the beginning. That’s insane. Getting ready to start my helo training in about a month!

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[@nwanchorcertification]

Please do the Texas hog hunting or s2s video please

[@HelicopterGround]

We will take a look at that!

[@jefflatham3247]

Australian cowboy pilots rounding up a wild herd ever watch ?

[@HelicopterGround]

Yep

[@JB73691]

The footage of the crash must be from Brazil.

[@HelicopterGround]

We believe so!

[@JB73691]

@@HelicopterGround Looked like it is and the fact that safety was not a priority.