Hello, I'm from Brazil and this accident happened in a city in the interior and what is known the cause of the accident was that the passenger next to the pilot held the cyclic and your comparison with safety is very valid, unfortunately the people who operate these tours are very lax about security. Hug from Brazil.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@staircapades2 жыл бұрын
Were the people in the helicopter okay?
@lucianobrito12762 жыл бұрын
@@staircapades Yes, they had minor injuries
@MYGM3502 жыл бұрын
A good bieffing before each flight, it's very not expensive and very profitable, the same for the fitting around the landing area and staff. We still have people who spend a few hundred thousand on a helicopter and are unable to pay a few hundred on the structure
@davidwallace57385 жыл бұрын
Great example of professional vs amateur. Thank you sir.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thank you David!
@JV-tk3nn5 жыл бұрын
Agree. A professional would have kept the helicopter in the screen frame throughout the whole ordeal.
@Travis_223 жыл бұрын
Ex-military helicopter crew myself, watched the 'how not to do it' shaking my head... utter chaos there. Your company showing the absolutely correct procedures afterwards. Great video, thanks for posting!
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Travis!
@stevenbrannen15683 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video. Years ago my wife and I did a ride at an airshow in the PA area. The pilot refueled right before we were to ride. I was a fixed wing student at the time and decided to question if we would be over weight. I weighed much more than I looked. Even my doctor was surprised at how much more that I looked. The message I got back was thanks and it would have been to much. they took next in line and we got on the next one,
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Steven, thanks for sharing your story.
@tonywilson47132 жыл бұрын
@@HelicopterGround Nice video. I'm a fixed wing PPL with aerobatics and what you are saying here about being *ORGANISED* holds true in any form of aviation. It also holds true in industry. I have been involved in mine site construction for most of the last 20 years and you have just described so many activities I see on construction sites. I have also done some time in oil & gas where I was introduced to helicopter ops. Everything you said about being organised was practiced there. Being organised = safety. Why I looked at your video is because there are some idiots trolling Juan Brown over on his Blancolirio channel about recent R44 'Cadet' crash in Rowlett Texas, where its suspected "mast bumping" was a factor. Juan is a very experienced fixed wing and its obvious he knows helicopter people but that hasn't stopped idiots being idiots.
@bigimskiweisenheimer83252 жыл бұрын
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@jhoughjr12 жыл бұрын
that small thing might have saved lives
@danielc93122 жыл бұрын
@@jhoughjr1 it seems like most commonly it's the small things that cause accidents when it's pilot error.
@Mr572u4 жыл бұрын
I flew in Galveston yesterday and everything was done right, just as you described here. No problems, and very enjoyable flight.
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for sharing!
@kennyj43664 жыл бұрын
There is NOTHING more valuable than experienced insight. Thank you for sharing it with us.
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@m118lr2 жыл бұрын
When I transitioned to the Schweizer 300-series (and Hughes 269 predecessor combined), I didn’t look back. Having started in the R22 at a ‘satellite’ school BEFORE they yanked it..I was left with about 30-40+ hours in it, but not enough for my private ride. When I transitioned..I couldn’t have been happier. There’s a reason the joke “Made by Mattel” floats around OUTSIDE Robinson helos. No way would I own one IF I had the money to actually own a personal ride. Glad I got my private in the Schweizer 300..
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@stephen51472 жыл бұрын
That takeoff (blue R44) in the middle of the video - you said "That looks pretty good." Question: Instead of accelerating in ground effect, looks like he may have pulled up into "dead man's curve" ??
@obsoleteprofessor20344 жыл бұрын
When I was in the Air Force, I saw a gust of wind lift a blade which allowed a droop stop to pop out. As the blade came around, it chopped into the top of the cabin and then the pieces went flying. It was a big 53 and the blade came down to about 4 feet towards the front. It could have taken someone's head off. We always approached from the side and then only when we got the (co)pilots attention.
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@msmrepo32712 жыл бұрын
As ex Army Air Corps watching this, makes me glad all my flying was with professional people.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@msmrepo32712 жыл бұрын
@@HelicopterGround Your welcome, thanks for the vids 😀
@1asdfasdfasdf4 жыл бұрын
Private fixed wing pilot here. I take the time to brief my passengers prior to every flight and also when approaching a field as to what to expect when landing.
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
Great! Exactly how it should be!
@Whirlynerds5 жыл бұрын
I've watched many of these over time but it's great to get some professional feedback on the whole situation.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thank you we appreciate that very much!
@williamheyman54393 жыл бұрын
So I am 83 years old. Was on the Test and Evaluation Team for the 11the Air Assault Division, at Fort Benning, Georgia, which was reflagged as the 1st Cavalry Division to go to Vietnam. Went to Vietnam. Got an Air Medal. All helicopters. Crashed into the Mekong with a bad transmission, but the pilot did the auto-rotation perfectly just 10 feet off the bank. We all walked out, because we were trained to know what to do. So listen to the man. This is good stuff. You can not go wrong by taking in everything you can about helicopters. Even the bad stuff can teach you something. If you are not in it. And you won't be if you take in these lessons.
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing William!
@phapnui2 жыл бұрын
Usually a bad transmissions stops the autorotation and you drop
@cptairwolf2 жыл бұрын
This video outlines the importance of following procedures regardless of how many hours you have behind a heli/airplane
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@rumbler900 Жыл бұрын
servo lock perhaps had that in a 350b2 once
@HelicopterGround Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@letsgobrandon71122 жыл бұрын
“He’s got a heavy load on this one” Hell yea, the front passenger was definitely a heavy load. 😂
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@lvgeorge5 жыл бұрын
Safety First, Always! This eliminates 90% of what else can go Wrong! Agree with Kenny 100% Great message in this Video! Thumbs UP!
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome feedback George!
@pimuce5 жыл бұрын
LASVEGAS GEORGE stupid Guy impossible to film at The moment who the copter crashes ! We see nothing
@lvgeorge5 жыл бұрын
@@pimuce What did you just say, garbled message,,, makes no sense!
@pimuce5 жыл бұрын
LASVEGAS GEORGE sorry but i just wanted to say that we don’t see the helicopter crash on this video ! The camera always moves when Robinson helicopter fall !
@DeathBlossom8674 жыл бұрын
"He's got a heavy load on this one..." I think we can all agree with you there.
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting.
@iangunn492 жыл бұрын
Hahahah, was looking for this comment....
@devildogkilo5 жыл бұрын
Like you always teach: Take Off is a Two Step Process ever time. Rushing into a unknown situation is never good, and every time you fly it’s an unknown situation. Different people get in and out, changes in CG and other things happen. Two Step Process saves time and lives...
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Clarence!
@paulymac55135 жыл бұрын
I think that's it, different weight and CG, didn't hover long enough, he over corrected.
@davidlegeros19143 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work! I plan to show this to my students and fellow instructors with your permission!
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Go for it! Thanks!
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Feel free to share.
@michelgardes3 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian and I could tell that that "chaos" looked very Brazilian before even seeing the helicopter registration.
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@maxflight7772 жыл бұрын
Portugal can be like that too ! 😂
@deweywatts84564 жыл бұрын
I learned something today. Thanks.
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
Dewey, thats great and thanks for commenting.
@pjmtts5 жыл бұрын
There is a helicopter tour co that operates near me. Never hovers never checks and takes off like a jet and lands like a cowboy on a roped bull all closer to 50ft to power lines and a road. I would say for them it’s equally about money as well as hotdog showboating.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Yep unfortunately the pursuit of the all mighty dollar makes people do stuff they shouldn't!
@DobermansRock2 жыл бұрын
In the Army I always made sure to give a 100% safety briefing to my passengers. We didn't care if bullets were flying. They needed to listen.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@garethgordon91413 жыл бұрын
Great video and good analysis. As an ATP, CFI & CFII I feel your pain Kenny. To students, and even seasoned pilots, the dynamic instability of a helicopter can never be emphasised enough. The speed with which a slight concern about attitude becomes an accident is frightening. This looks to me like too much and too fast a left input, potentially approaching dynamic rollover, and then over-controlling to correct (from the way it returned to vertical) to the right. We did not see the full sequence of control inputs leading to the crash. Hopefully a passenger did not intervene and the controls on that side had been removed - if not then a further example of unprofessional flying and management. Due to the fact that a helicopter is unstable then any unusual attitudes will not be resolved as they might be in a fixed wing aircraft where, generally speaking, letting go of everything will allow the aircraft to return itself to a stable flying condition. If you are careless or unlucky enough to find your self in a developing unusual attitude in a helicopter then you must have the presence of mind to respond appropriately and proportionately to correct it without over controlling. The least safe link in the chain of aviation is a poorly trained and unprofessional pilot. But it doesn't have to be that way and hopefully all your viewers are online to avoid being in that category. I retired in 2011 so enjoyed this video. One useful tip I have is to remember that "the man who never made a mistake, never made anything' but on the basis of learning from the mistakes of others I read a lot of accident reports, both FAA and UK CAA and they can be very sobering reminders of what you should not do when you have the stick and the lives of others in your hands. Thanks for the video Kenny and safe, fun and professional flying to all of you
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@Vfourmike5 жыл бұрын
at 4:34 there is one thing I'd point out. The front seat passenger is holding her bag on her lap and door removed. Having worked with people who have had accidents due to loose articles departing the aircraft into the tail rotor, I just thought it was worth mentioning. But the two operations are totally different. Everyone needs to be safe around helicopter ops. Thanks for the video.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@ddtddt84935 жыл бұрын
We do the same. Orange vests and escorting passengers from the front of the machine with clear instructions to never move past the back end of the skids. We operate in an airport which has four other schools including gliders and their tows. Prefer to overkill than just kill Walk behind airplanes and in front of helicopters.
@devildogkilo5 жыл бұрын
DDT DDT That’s because you got your stuff together. In my Military status, we are on BlackHawks often. But we make sure people are moving through a single controlled channel to get to the aircraft and you can see the PIC and Co-Pilot going through a quick GUMPS check,they pick-up quick systems check and we are on mission. Basics Basics Basics!!!
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing DDT!
@Flying_GC5 жыл бұрын
Fixed wing instructor here, to add, if a fixed wing is running, just dont go near it otherwise far enough in front to be safe and pilot to see you. Walk behind if you want to get blown into a fence which I've seen happen. Yes walk in front of Helos about 45deg is what we do
@jhoughjr12 жыл бұрын
Issac Arthur's first rule of warfare, there is no such thing as overkill.
@jackshittle2 жыл бұрын
Like my retired Blackhawk pilot & now medivac pilot friend says (regarding Robinson); belts are for holding your pants up - not helicopter engines/transmissions. I should have gotten a helo license after I got out of the Navy rather then fixed wing (got that license in the summer of 1995). Too late now that I'm 50, single dad, lack of time & $$$. But myself & daughters still go on flights once a year while in FL. Great times, cheers!
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@randybaumery50902 жыл бұрын
I'm very lucky. The 2 R22 flights I took a few years ago went smoothly.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@randybaumery50902 жыл бұрын
@@HelicopterGround personally I loved those rides. I love that helicopter too.
@maxflight7772 жыл бұрын
Spot on comment about lowering the collective with the yaw on ! ✅
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@sammyday33412 жыл бұрын
As an engineer, I really appreciate how orderly things were with Chris.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@davidallyn18183 жыл бұрын
Great video - thanks!! Did the pilot that performed that landing *switch off* with another pilot while the helicopter was running? How safe is that?? Also, rushing to make money... even if you did a "heavy" set down (no people are harmed, no crash), the subsequent safety inspection and possible maintenance on the aircraft would offset any extra money you'd make from rushing. These are the reasons we (in the U.S.) have an FAA to establish and enforce rules.
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@g0d773 жыл бұрын
'He's got a heavier load on this one'! 🤣 Nice narration!
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@donaldreach7605 жыл бұрын
Military precision at it's safest and best. Well done.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting
@hoping672 жыл бұрын
Pilot clearly wasn't drunk enough,a few more beers and it would have been golden 👌👌
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@bobbybrown17382 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about helicopters at this point; but, in the first video, it appears to me that ALL of the participants (pilot, passengers, and onlookers) had NO respect for aircraft.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@marcelopereque5 жыл бұрын
this accident was here in Brasil the passager touched in the ciclico, you give for us a greats exemplos to learn more in the Aviation KENNY A HOPE TO CAN FLY WITH YOU A DAY THERE IN USA
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@lautburns48292 жыл бұрын
Great info!
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@cleysonfreire10495 жыл бұрын
Hi, I like too much your videos. The crash has happened in Brazil and the cause was a flight tour with double command installed. A mobile phone of the passsenger dropped down inside cockpit when that passenger tried to pick up it pushing the collective forward spoiling the pilot during take off. Its so bad because neither aircraft and pilot was not prepared to perform that kind of flight.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
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@jonnie2bad Жыл бұрын
i see a sign for helicopter rides, ah cool sounds fun.. I pull up and see an R44, i turn around and don't look back.
@HelicopterGround Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@ChevTecGroup5 жыл бұрын
Reported a similar situation of a "famous" movie helo selling rides after working with a good crew. These guys were literally landing the bird with the next set of passengers almost within the rotor disk. It was nuts.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@spankyharland98455 ай бұрын
this is why in this day and age we don't have flying cars- us regular people can't even drive regular cars let alone have a family owned cartel helicopter.
@HelicopterGround5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@YARROWS92 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't get me in one of those hedge trimmers, ever!
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@davidnorman21342 жыл бұрын
Had a similar situation working at a resort, had a passenger hop in, their camera neck strap snagged on the pin that holds the T bar in on the cyclic, we were climbing out, he looked out his left side and then turned with his camera to take shots, jerking the cyclic control to the left. I man handled it to keep control, and asked him to remove the strap from the pin, couldn't have happened in any worse timing, this is why the manual says to make sure there's no loose objects around, another flight i had a passengers silk scarf whirling around the cockpit then being sucked out the left door, luckily it wasn't pulled into the rotor system
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@heliguy73574 жыл бұрын
Jumped into it like a NY taxi, Too cool for rules.
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@richie25645 жыл бұрын
Great educational material
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@_datapoint5 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jhoughjr12 жыл бұрын
Been seeing a lot of crashes, looks to my untrained eye too low rpm and rotor wobble at take off>
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@jerichobrookfarm85255 жыл бұрын
Keep up the awesome videos Kenny.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
I will thank you Jeff!
@mrwilliamreece2 жыл бұрын
like your channel tyler texas over and out.stay safe
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@RoadRunnerLaser5 жыл бұрын
"We don't have time for that"... In that case, you don't have time to visit your passengers in hospital or attend their funerals, so do it right ! Cowboy operations in aviation are amongst my top pet-hates.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@RoadRunnerLaser5 жыл бұрын
Helicopter Online Ground School - I quite enjoy watching your videos. I'm not a heli pilot and I've never even been up in a heli but I do fly an autogyro and I find that watching videos about other types of aircraft can be informative and improve my overall standard of airmanship.
@ericshimer66695 жыл бұрын
Feel the same way as a truck driver. 80,000 pounds of weight is no time to play outlaw. Not worth losing my license and prison for life and people dead from it.
@johnnydavidcreative5 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. Who were those clowns at the beginning? Oh my word! We had higher safety measures at our "model" helicopter field - no excuse for that. Enjoyed the video. Best regards, johnny :-)
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@randomentertainment89272 жыл бұрын
One of these just crashed behind my neighborhood. Pilot and passenger killed. Tail broke off during flight, they tried coming down for an emergency landing but it just wildly spun until it tilted whe wrong way, main rotor shredded and it fell out of the sky
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@TheRantingCabbie5 жыл бұрын
I only have a bit of knowledge about helicopters, but I'm thinking he gave it too much forward cyclic and not enough collective. And at the same time perhaps he got away from his rotor wash too quickly causing some type of stall. And what sealed his fate was overcompensating.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
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@jonesbugattis9 ай бұрын
In any situation where passengers can, would, might or will have access to flight controls, do not get in!
@HelicopterGround9 ай бұрын
Good call!
@mr.badnade3309Ай бұрын
The funny since you can remove the flight controls on Robi's, so why they didn't do that is beyond me. I remember a video of some girl getting ready to pull the rotor brake after the pilot tapped it to make sure it was all the way in. Could've been a deadly flight.
@jonesbugattisАй бұрын
@@mr.badnade3309 That one would have just smoked the brake until the pilot could break her arm..
@gulfair-cavalry-tango10115 жыл бұрын
You're right, as usual, Kenny!
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@campacolasworkshop604210 ай бұрын
I am no pilot, but just wondered if it would have been safer to not have the blades running whilst passengers were entering? Just in case someone did accidently touch the controls whilst getting seated?
@HelicopterGround10 ай бұрын
Yes best to have blades stopped.
@markferguson33653 жыл бұрын
There is always time for safety!
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@flyerh3 жыл бұрын
Good procedures on the second helicopter,my only comment would be point the helicopter at the entry point of the passengers where the pilot and ground crew have the best visibility with each other and the tail rotor is furthest away from everyone.
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting.
@americanmonster83424 жыл бұрын
I like to run over and do the fan voice thing at the tail rotor 😀
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that.
4 жыл бұрын
You mention maybe somebody bumped the controls, the passenger sitting in front does not appear to move nor does it appear theres dual controls but it's not definitive there is another set
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
We do not know exactly what occurred, the comment about possibly bumping controls was mentioned since there have been many accidents where that has actually happened. Wish we knew all the facts to be sure. Thanks for commenting.
@greatwhite9428 Жыл бұрын
The safest way to fly around in a Robinson is to not fly around in a Robinson
@HelicopterGround Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback
@OOTurok4 жыл бұрын
I know the mast is pretty tall on the R44... but let's all just 🎶 raise our hands cuz we're Sure✊🎵
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
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@ron68922 жыл бұрын
Great Analysis….18,000 pilot …the importance of a hover check and a steady departure can’t be over emphasized
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@ron68922 жыл бұрын
@@HelicopterGround your welcome ..just discovered your channel great resource for the youngsters and something for the old dogs also!
@jimmayors23155 жыл бұрын
Agree with all your comments, but was baffled why the helicopter dipped to the left as he half pedal turned, half cyclic turned. He lost lift just enough to bounce a skid, and in the process of correcting for that unexpected left side down, he seemed to cyclic back and had ground contact with the tail (and tail rotor). It was not on video as the camera person scrambled, but when when it comes back to the helicopter on it's side, the tail rotor looks like it hit too. Also, it didn't look like there was enough time for the pax to properly secure their seat belts, and the person loading them didn't really verify it had been done, if that had anything to do with the left side down motion (doubtful).
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim!
@LuizFernando-pj4rp5 жыл бұрын
Hi Kenny. I posted a comment just a few days ago on your video about that sad fatal accident in Brazil with the bride going to wedding. This one now I'm 200% sure happened in Brazil too, although I haven't seen the original video. Do you have the link of it? Many irregular small companies offering scenic helicopter rides in my city, Sao Paulo, as well as many other. Reckless and irresponsible private pilots carrying on commercial activities. If they're caught they'll pretend that passengers are friends with them, everybody enjoying a flight with no money involved. In addition, such nasty breed of pilots love to show off skills that often they don't have and also they fly very low over parks supposed to be peaceful places. That makes me ashamed and pissed off.
@LuizFernando-pj4rp5 жыл бұрын
I've found and watched the original video and yes, again it's really happened in Brazil as I've supposed. There are good and bad professionals in all kind of activities over the whole world. In Brazil there are many extremely skilled and professional pilots such as Esquadrilha da Fumaca team. The point I'd like to make is that bad pilots doing this kind of shit are a shame for their colleagues and for Brazilian people once these videos viralize. So I hope that those good ones watch over the others in order to avoid keep on putting lifes at risk and making us a reason for jokes
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Luiz!
@helicopter26305 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with everything you said. 👍
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting!
@WConn1002 жыл бұрын
Did the front seat passenger have controls? Good idea to remove the controls from the other seat.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@WConn1002 жыл бұрын
@@HelicopterGround Sloppy landing/sloppy take off.
@donalddarsey88853 жыл бұрын
I truly enjoy watching your videos on helicopters. I'd love to get the opportunity to get a helicopter ride in one it would be back memories when I was a young man and I rode in them .
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
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@josepeixoto33843 жыл бұрын
It never fails ~~~~~~ either we don't get to see the accident, or we don't get to see the end of the movie...
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
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@slo3337 Жыл бұрын
During a training exercise in the army we had multiple casualties from people doing stupid stuff too close to the heli. They were blackhawks which have a very low rotor height in front. Someone ran wide and was killed, another thought running around the back of the heli was a good idea, also died. These events happened on the same night but not the same heli. As far as I know the helis were not damaged. So be careful around helicopters, they are good at giving Darwin awards!
@HelicopterGround Жыл бұрын
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@cadilacdesert5 жыл бұрын
Plum effect. Pilot should have rotated on vertical using ground affect. Ground effect is free power. Relative wind at 15knots entering rotor system is key.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
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@Texas2402 жыл бұрын
On the first one, based on the fact that the pilot did a rotation while landing and then again rotating when he took off, it looked intentional and probably to make the paid flight more exciting. It definitely was more exciting. It's a case of "I've never had a problem doing it!" until they have a problem doing it.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@grumpy13113 жыл бұрын
Heli rides at a local county fair a few years ago... I stayed well clear of that ... 🚁
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
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@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
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@VictoryAviation2 жыл бұрын
I’d take instruction from your friend. Not a snowball’s chance in hell from the dip sh*t at the beginning. That’s insane. Getting ready to start my helo training in about a month!
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@marcs9902 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of my army days, when we were waiting to get onboard we were in 2 “sticks or chalks” basically 2 lines offset at 90 degrees, we await the go ahead from the crew chief before we can even approach the aircraft, once the go ahead is given then line 1 moves towards the aircraft, waits at 90 degrees from the rear, then we had another hand sign to board, once everyone had their seats then chalk 2 can board, obviously whilst being shot at things r a bit different but I can’t think of any time when the pilots did anything rash or dangerous, yes we had some very sporty landings & takeoffs but all this is prebriefed n at no time did anyone do anything without the approval of a member of the crews.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@briandickinson8255 жыл бұрын
Some people rush to get their wing too early. Theres no way i will go in one of them things🥴
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
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@matthewstuart20544 жыл бұрын
What is it with the Robinson and dumb pilots
@ronstrong95603 жыл бұрын
What was the FAA/NTSB, or equivalent if in another country, findings?
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
I do not know.
@grahamjordan10402 жыл бұрын
I flew one of these years ago with no training it’s so easy so what’s all the fuss about
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@regwatson20174 жыл бұрын
There should be a way to disable all controls on the front passenger seat.
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
The controls can be removed.
@JetFire94 жыл бұрын
Look at the main rotor blades before the pickup. They are wobbling. Something was wrong with the helicopter before he tried to take off, and that's what caused the crash.
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
Rotor system does wobble. Unknow why. Could have been over controlling, passenger touching controls. I just dont know full story.
@1965201019652 жыл бұрын
With regards to wind direction, if he landed into the wind, he didn’t take off into the wind and put a large load on the helicopter.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@modquad182 жыл бұрын
Seems like giving random people rides is a recipe for disaster. Who knows, a passenger could have grabbed that pilot during takeoff. People are just too darn unpredictable.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@cliffterrell48762 жыл бұрын
You can't be fast in a helicopter like that. Fast is dangerous. Do stupid things, the bird will dump your ass on it's side. Slow and smooth is always safe, always.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@dankhank60132 жыл бұрын
those robinson helis seem like death traps
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@heathen24874 жыл бұрын
I have a subliminal need to duck when I approach a running helicopter.
@HelicopterGround4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@chopjockey2 жыл бұрын
I think the cameraman was the most kaotic LOL
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@G.Harley.Davidson5 жыл бұрын
We’ve had these discussions for years now, and the question remains if theRobbies are always in the accidents because there are more out there on the”road “.
@Steeyuv5 жыл бұрын
I’d like to know how that question still remains! This is why I drive a Ferrari - you hear of so few accidents...
@devildogkilo5 жыл бұрын
With any Helicopter it comes down to the Pilot control operations. This was clearly poor planning, rushed take off, GUMPS not verified. We can Monday Night Quarterback all day, but it comes down to PIC failure on take off.
@G.Harley.Davidson5 жыл бұрын
Steeyuv i like your taste!
@G.Harley.Davidson5 жыл бұрын
Steeyuv yea this pilot was not on his game .
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
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@clowesgaming82743 жыл бұрын
i know this is a stupid question but in your opinion whats the biggest mistake a helicopter pilot can make
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
Flying into bad weather!
@clowesgaming82743 жыл бұрын
@@HelicopterGround ok
@RandyBaumery-s4i11 ай бұрын
I wish that people would stay focused on video recording. This looks like a Doberman pincher was attacking their butt right as the action started.
@HelicopterGround11 ай бұрын
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@RandyBaumery-s4i11 ай бұрын
@@HelicopterGround I've taken rides on Robinsons and loved the view. I've since changed my mind on ever doing that again due to numerous videos by professional pilots. Thank YOU for freely sharing information.
@douglashoff955 жыл бұрын
Seems like a lot of accidents with R44's compared to any other including JetRangers and AStars.
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
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@225degrees5 жыл бұрын
The Robinson family are the most produced, sold, and used helicopters on the planet. It's simple mathematics.
@kstax92254 жыл бұрын
225degrees 100%
@jeremylakenes68592 жыл бұрын
Pilot got out?
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@jeremylakenes68592 жыл бұрын
Didn’t really answer the question
@copterkid67593 жыл бұрын
No words 😶 another perfectly good machine lost for no reason
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
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@ictpilot3 жыл бұрын
If a passenger got in the controls, they didn't have them removed on the passenger side. First mistake.
@HelicopterGround2 жыл бұрын
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@SkypowerwithKarl5 жыл бұрын
The first one wasn’t a kick of the rudder peddle. In thinking the passenger perhaps pulled off some clothing or somehow bumped the cyclic and the pilot was too late and low to save it. Yes the whole thing was a mess and an accident waiting
@HelicopterGround5 жыл бұрын
Karl Jensen thanks for commenting!
@danfuller6485 жыл бұрын
I agree, passengers can not kick a cyclic control. Pilot over reacted and pulled back on the cyclic control allowing the tale rotor to strike the ground.
@davesmith82653 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or are there a lot of close calls in trying to get loaded up and someone almost meets his or her maker by walking too close to the tail rotor? I took my first flight at 10 years old and remember a guy walking up and seemed to have no clue what was about to happen. I was walking with a staff member to get on while the pilot cut the throttle and screamed at him.He finally stopped and was allowed to take the other seat. I don't remember how that issue panned out. Even at that age I knew that rotor don't care who it hits. And I have seen the exact thing more than once since then.
@HelicopterGround3 жыл бұрын
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@thomaslemay88174 жыл бұрын
As a pilot. That pilot did not have time to brief the front seat passenger about staying clear of the controls.