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@KS-hj6xn2 жыл бұрын
My Dad and all his buddies only used Nosler Partitions for Elk. All calibers! 3006, 7mm, 270, 300WM Rarely did those old timers need more than one shot. 🤠
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
It's a great bullet for sure
@br180933Ай бұрын
Great video thanks. I do love the 270 Win.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
No problem. Thanks for watching! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours.
@johnroos58073 жыл бұрын
I first got the .270 from my Dad's 1969 Browning BAR. It didn't 'Thump' as hard as the 30'06, so I didn't 'Flinch' due to the heavier recoil... Semper Fidelis
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
The bar being has operated semi auto also helps tame recoil.
@gabemcneil52213 жыл бұрын
Got a browning bar in 2020 chambered in .270. Killer up to 200 yards or so , where accuracy falls off for mine
@matrix51752 жыл бұрын
If you have a bore scope, I would recommend looking down the barrel and see what the shape of the bore is like. It may just need a really good cleaning or could possibly need to fire lap the barrel if you have tool marks left in the barrel. If you think you need to fire lap the barrel, I recommend cleaning the bore really well with a good copper killer and then bore cleaner. Fire lapping works really well on a bore that needs machining marks smoothed out but if the bore has copper in it, the fire lapping may not help that much just from my experience.
@donaldanderson32493 жыл бұрын
And thats why I love the nosler partitions
@AlaskanBallistics3 ай бұрын
They work well
@ejsocci26302 ай бұрын
Another awesome video and I do love my.270
@AlaskanBallistics2 ай бұрын
Thank you! While I'm not fond of the .270win, it certainly works well and can take anything in North America. Wouldn't be my first choice for big brown bears, moose and Bison though.
@inupik233 жыл бұрын
I use IMR 4350 for my 270 with 140 grain Hornady Interlock btsp bullets. 2950 or so. It is a 23.5" barrel.
@gabemcneil52213 жыл бұрын
I just shoot hornady American whitetail in my .270 bar
@alphadogpredators Жыл бұрын
Glass bedding my Tikka really helped with going from 1in down to consistent .3/4 .5 groups. Also my Tikka .270 really responded well with seating depth test get a good consistent velocity charge don't worry about group size load to max mag length then after you have a good consistent velocity powder charge load a bunch of ammo with that charge and more it back 5 thousandths at time untill you see it shrink up your adjusting the harmonics by adjusting the seating depth
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
I'll do that thank you
@frankbrowning3283 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the Nosler partition is still the perfect medium- large game bullet when used with a medium to large cartridge with sufficient horse power for the job. The focus on new ammo has been weight retention no matter the cost to its ability to stop the animal quickly. I don't agree with this at all. I prefer a bullet that loses 15-30% over the 1st 6-10'' of penetration followed by continued expansion, penetration and a large hole on the far side of the animal. In my experience this is what kills quickly. The Nosler partition bullets in proper loadings excel at this. In my experience using cartridges such as the 270, 7mm-08, 280 Remington, 7mm Rem Mag, 308, 30-06 and 300 Win Mag small - large white tail deer drop much more quickly than bullets that do not shed some weight. I would much rather lose a little more meat than track an animal longer knowing it is suffering that whole time. If we use average deer rifle cartridges with Nosler partition bullets at average ranges of 50-250 yards the penetration I've seen is always 100% Bullets of proper weight with this bullet design have no problem completely penetrating a 100-250lb animal even when raking shots require 20+'' of penetration. Sure bonded bullets and all copper bullets penetrate deeply and this is necessary depending on the cartridge chosen for the game at hand but most often when a proper cartridge is selected a Nosler partition will stop the animal more quickly. In my opinion marginal cartridges is where bonded bullets and all copper bullets really begin to overtake the Nosler partition. When a smaller cartridge such as a 243 is chosen and the shots taken may involve a long raking shot where 20+'' of muscle and bone must be penetrated then we need to retain as much weight as possible and sacrifice some damage to assure the bullet penetrates deep enough to be effective. However, stepping up to a larger cartridge and shooting a Nosler partition still provides a faster kill
@cugir3212 жыл бұрын
The bullets are great if you don't mind selling your soul to get a box. Nosler is run by greedy child serial killers.
@billflythe40922 жыл бұрын
Frankly, the 1" groups that you are getting are plenty good. Not many people can capitalize on beautiful clover Leafs under real World field conditions.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
They were 1.5"
@memphisoutdoors33213 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. My Remington 700 BDL 270 is sensitive to different factory loads, it functions well with accuracy using the Winchester Super X power points. The 270 is such a good hunting caliber.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'll have to try those in this gun
@Bigfhoot Жыл бұрын
Yes I’m able to shoot a 1 inch 3 shot group from the super x. Not bad for ammo of the wall
@johnparrish92153 жыл бұрын
Nosler Partition bullets were never known for extreme accuracy however they have dropped more thin skin dangerous game than anything else.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
True
@404nitro3 жыл бұрын
I have heard that for all my life regarding accuracy, yet that has never been my own experience. IME they shoot as well, or better than any other bullet, and my experience covers a LOT of CF rifle calibers.Maybe early on the partition was not that accurate due to how it was made and the equipment they had at that time to make them, but today........they shoot great and have for the last 40 years at least.
@rg82493 жыл бұрын
I agree, I've shot a lot of partitions and never got the accuracy I have with other bullets. I disagree on it's killed the most thin skin game though. A majority of thin skinned game killed are deer, and no doubt most have been killed by the Remington Core Lokt then probably the Winchester Powerpoint.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@bobbygetsbanned60492 жыл бұрын
@@rg8249 Yeah, I would bet on the Core Lokt having the most deer kills.
@troy94773 жыл бұрын
I think we all owe a debt to John Nosler. He started the quest for better performance, and raised the bar for other companies, leading to a market full of good bullets. A veritable embarassment of riches. Just a thought, but what about 4350? Not sure if Varget or 4064 would be a little too fast. Don't have a burn rate chart handy. And of course there are the newer Enduron powders. I hear good things. I am sure with just a little experimentation you will find a great load with that and other bullets. Keep up the good work.
@conradhermann1918 Жыл бұрын
They are my favorite bullet for all calibers
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
It's a good one for sure
@jimpalmer4916 Жыл бұрын
I haven't bought a Howa yet that couldn't shoot into half inch at 100 yards as well as my Weatherby Vanguards using factory ammunition. My experience using both has proven to me that these rifles require a minimum of 40 rounds to smooth the bore and fill in the imperfections with copper before they settle into tack driving mode. I always keep my rifles thoroughly clean after every trip to the ŕange and that's what it is.
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Lol I've not got either that has gone into half an inch consistently at 100 yards
@kentuckywindage2223 жыл бұрын
Alaska on that 243 Winchester Barnes ttsx 80gr and IMR4064 39.5gr load. As I mentioned, I used the Lee collet neck die. I failed to tell you I did the second ¼ turn size on the brass that Lee mentions in his instructions. The .4 group could be much better I think. As I was shooting from a backpack on a picnic table. Temperatures here are rising towards 90's at times so soon as I get time i will be testing 40gr. IMR4064. There is a lot of argument about neck sizing, but from my experience it makes a difference. I think it helps your velocity stay more consistent while saving your brass some working. Just my own experience, but it is hands on and not just repeating someone else's thoughts. Which as you know is a plague on YT. Great job! Keep'em coming!
@robelliott5900 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the perfect hunting recipe for steaks on the table. I appreciate the video
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Hopefully so.
@holmesfamily20582 жыл бұрын
270 hand loading Over the past 30 years I've used 4350 and RL 22 for 130gr Nosler partition and ballistic tip using different primers, and casings to reach the best sub MOA grouping out of my 2 Winchester 22 inch barrel featherweight rifles. Both rifles have been tuned up by gunsmith legions. I ended up with using 60 gr RL22 with Winchester primer and Winchester casing. Across the chronometer at 10 yards I'm getting an average of 3210 FPS. Yes I just noticed the current Nosler loading data is showing 58 gr of RL 22 is max, but my reloading manual from the early 90's showed the max of 60. I am able to use the same casing over and over, and I've never seen any signs of pressure issues. It should be noted that with the 150gr partition I found the CCI bench rest primer, gave me the best MOA grouping and while I have not loaded the new 140 gr I suspect it may be the same.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@BOHEMIANHUNTINGCLUB3 жыл бұрын
Love the .270!! Nice one!!👍🍻
@randall73192 жыл бұрын
it always surprises me on how slow the 270 always goes without a 24 inch barrel. But even with those velocities its pretty effective on game up to moose here in British Columbia.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
True. I also didn't load out to max
@workct4102 Жыл бұрын
The same as a 25-06...I ordered an accuracy barrel for my .240 WM in 24"....does not perform near as a 26", very accurate and loud.
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd imagine any weatherby caliber needing a 26 inch to 28 inch barrel.
@workct4102 Жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics indeed. I should have went for a wildcat 6mm-06
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Maybe so.
@adamelam6385 Жыл бұрын
That Tikka Hunter is a sweetheart. I've got the same one in WSM.
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Nice
@b01tact10n Жыл бұрын
I just found your channel after i started the fire in my smokehouse. That looks like that awesome SE Alaskan scenery. Pretty awesome content, im currently in the SW on the Kuskokwim. I have some I 140s but never loaded them, pretty impressive results though😁 Ive loaded 150 & 160 bullets for Winchester M70 chambered for .270WCF also my modded Rem700 30'06 w/iron sights I have nothing but great respect for the Partition and these cartridges on big game, but shot placement is key.👍
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Awesome man. I need to come hunt moose with you!
@johnparrish92153 жыл бұрын
Do you realize how completely spoiled we are these days when it comes to accuracy?? 35 years ago a 1moa rifle was a big deal, now it's expected even from the cheapest budget rifle.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
True...
@nellinecronje69113 жыл бұрын
You know, that's true. My son has a Savage Axis 1 in .223 that has never shot a group bigger than 1.75" at 100 yards, and will shoot CamPro 55gn FMJs into than 1" easy, with an occasional 1/2" group. That rifle cost about 350 Canuck Dollhairs- and it was the only lefty compact rifle I could buy at the time.
@gabemcneil52213 жыл бұрын
Even though the kill zone on a whitetail is about 10”, we are obsessed with sub minute groups when most hunters don’t shoot past 100 yards
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
@Gabe McNiel if you follow the channel you know I killed a caribou at 459. My shortest shot on a caribou has been 212 yards
@gabemcneil52213 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I am a long range shooter . I know where you are coming from on trying to squeeze out every drop of accuracy. I love my .270, but I know it’s limits . If I’m shooting consistently at game over 200, I’m gonna build a rifle to do just that with a high BC caliber chambering. Love the info you put out on on .270, my favorite rifle for 200 yards and under . We call em grass patch guns here in the south. I shoot a browning BAR, accuracy isn’t great, but good enough. I’ve got other rifles and calibers for the “long” range stuff. Mostly custom rifles, .35 whelen( 600 yard gun), 6.5 creedmoor ( 1500 yard gun) 300 Norma mag( sky is the limit) I have found an accurate gun will shoot anything well. An ok gun, you gotta work with it to get ok accuracy👍 Again , love the info you put out on .270.
@ashmerch2558 Жыл бұрын
I know it's kinda late now... But the best recipe ive tried some RL-26 , Hornady brass and a federal 215 magnum primer... The Remington 700 CDL I have (24" barrel) I've been able to beat 2940 fps consistently with a 150gr partition. 3025 fps with a 140gr Hornady interlock If that doesn't work, I've also had good luck with MAGPRO powder as well.
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately RL-26 is unobtainable up here.
@MtnBadger3 жыл бұрын
I see you made it back! You gave my wife your card when you were in the Harbor Freight, here in GA... Thought I'd check out your channel... Looks good! She says hi!
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
We're in the Seattle airport. Thanks for watching. Tell your wife hi! Godspeed
@MtnBadger3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Ahh... Good flight, it's always the last 50 miles that makes me nervous... lol. Thanks and take care 🙂
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Only the take off and landings make me nervous
@MtnBadger3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Take-off is like starting on a roller-coaster, I'm good with it. As for landing, as long as he's not coming in too sideways or one wing dragging the ground, I'm ok with that, too.... lol Glad you're safe. Send me a grizzly bear 🐻 😉
@jeremypeters7776 Жыл бұрын
Love your reviews. I am pushing a 140 grain partition out of my Sako 6.5 x 55 at 2820 with a whole lot less powder. accuracy is about half MOA. I like the 270 a lot but I think I will be looking at a 270 WSM to get some extra speed.
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Get the new 6.8 western so you have a good twist rate and speed
@jefferywilliams76873 ай бұрын
That is an excellent cartridge that is overlooked and under loaded. Won many 300 meter matches.
@ronladuke7235 Жыл бұрын
Partition bullets generally don’t get really fine accuracy.The more complicated a bullets design the more difficult it is to make the centre of gravity perfectly match the centre of the bullet, Concentricity.
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Hence why I use Barnes.
@chrisgabbert6583 жыл бұрын
You will find the sweet setup
@robelliott5900 Жыл бұрын
First figure out your charge weight. In my experience I load the cartridge to max out oal in clip. Make sure she cycles and at that point start taking your rifles OAL down in .003 for say 5 groups of 3 rounds. The paper will tell you where your sweet spot is. I use this OAL for various grain bullets. That’s looks like the perfect deer cartridge
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
It is. Thank you kindly for the advice.
@randysandberg56152 жыл бұрын
I've used the 140 Nosler Partitions with great effectiveness on elk, caribou, and Dall sheep. In all fairness, the 130 Partition might have done just as well, though. I used lung shots on all animals and never lost a cripple. My last elk, a 7x7 was killed at 330 yds with one bullet. But it took 6 shots to get that one-shot kill!!
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on some good hunting. Nosler partitions are awesome bullets.
@johnnorman77082 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's a little bit slow. But for some uses not really a problem. I've toyed with the idea of turning a .270 into a 7mm-08 by loading down deliberately. Under timber conditions for deer, a .270 running full throttle isn't as appropriate as several milder rounds in the 7mm-08 category.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
I can agree with that
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska58752 жыл бұрын
Nice, I have been flirting with the idea of getting a 270 win Tikka, the 140s or 150 partition seems like the bullet to shoot. Supper cool mushroomed bullet in this one. Looks like the ones in the advertisements.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
The barnes lrx does a bit better, but can't go wrong with the partitions. Thanks for watching and Godspeed
@shanerhodes9253 жыл бұрын
Also have to say the partition is my favorite hi ting bullet a little expensive but in my opinion they're worth it. Ive put a few deer on the ground with that bullet love it
@gabemcneil52213 жыл бұрын
Why not accubond or Barnes?? Much better in my option..
@shanerhodes9253 жыл бұрын
I have tried both and the performance of the tsx wasn't that great I didn't think. And te accubond I can never get it to shoot as good as the partition. It's so so on the accuracy department
@mikesauer77753 жыл бұрын
Great way to break cabin fever
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Darrel
@369motoman3 жыл бұрын
I have a Tikka T3 .243 stainless w laminated stock and the groups will open up after 3 shots. But that 1st cold barrell shot goes right where I aim. Hunting coyotes last winter in 10° to 40°f temps I'm 5 for 6 at 400-600 yards and the one I missed was my fault. Under 400yds I havent missed in over 2 years. When sighting it in I shoot 3, pull bolt out and let it cool down completely and repeat, that 1st shot is the most important. She is a cold barrel hunter not a bench rifle that needs a warm up shot. Btw I use Hornady superformance varmint 58g @3924 fps according to the box. Mean little pills!
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Good shooting man. Thanks for the advice
@369motoman3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics No problem! It took me a bit to figure out why my groups were opening up with every ammo I tried. Then I realized it was only happening after the barrel was warmed up. And when I had it sighted in hot it would be off when I took it out the next time, it drove me nuts!
@nellinecronje69113 жыл бұрын
Try the Speer Grand Slam or Mag Tip bullets if you can get some. The blunt profile puts the driving band/ shank closer to the lands than pointier bullets. I had a a 7x64 Brenneke years ago that would put everything into 1.5 MOA except those Speer bullets (160gn). Those went into 0.7 MOA. The 7x64 has a very long throat, and getting great accuracy can be a challenge if you want to load to magazine length. I suspect the same thing is happening here. Just to confound the issue, my Tikka Forest .270 shoots cheap and cheerful Federal 130 gn PowerShok into 1.5" groups at 200 yards. I have yet to try handloads in it. Greeting from the other side of the continent.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Will try if I can find them thank you.
@johnedwards97413 жыл бұрын
The 160 grain partition over 50.5gr IMR4350 is the most accurate load I’ve ever shot out of my Browning Xbolt in 1:10 twist & 22” barrel. Muzzle velocity averages 2700fps. Groups were averaging 0.5” for my 3-shot groups and shot a couple 5-shot groups, neither were over 0.78”. Very pleased with it, even if it’s not smoking fast.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I bet it was very effective
@johnedwards97413 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics here's hoping, man! It's being used on a (fingers crossed) Canadian moose hunt this September/October. It's the first time I've used anything other than a 110gr TTSX or a 130gr SST (whitetail deer, of course). @Chuke's Outdoor Adventures ...let's see if your claim that a .270 is good medicine on the big dogs holds weight :D
@falba14923 жыл бұрын
The maximum H4831 load is 58 grains, with a 140 grain projectile, and it’s compressed. Supposed to be good for 2,888 ft/sec in a 24” barrel (Hodgdon website). I love the 150 Partition, or the 129 gr. LRX. Never loaded the 140Partition.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
129 lrx is what we're using
@falba14923 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics - I shared my load data on that. But keep it over 2,400 ft/sec with it. With my rifle, I keep it under 325 yards in the boiler room. Shoulder shots up to 350, but you better hit bone.
@wesbarcus37613 жыл бұрын
Nosler Partition is America's original premium bullet. All other premium bullets are compared to this in terms of overall performance. Began the search for better . Thank you John Nosler.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Well said sir
@wesbarcus37613 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics please don't call me sir, makes me feel old.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Well Said
@wesbarcus37613 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics what can we expect so far as next hunting video? What spring season hunting or fishing?
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Hunting this spring hadn't worked out well. Hopefully fall will be better
@samuelberryhill69563 жыл бұрын
Good video man.and as far as accuracy pull the barrel action out and bed the action and free float the barrel channel that will help alot if it isn't already
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I'll look into that thanks
@adamelam6385 Жыл бұрын
I'm ecstatic with a .75" group but I only go to the range maybe 4 times a year.
@paulhomsy2751 Жыл бұрын
Hey Chuck, the expansion and weight retention you obtained are very good. One of my experiences with the Nosler reloading book, several years ago has been similar to yours, I tried to get the advertised velocity of a 150 grains 7 mm mag with a maximum book charge of 63 grains of IMR 4350 (supposedly 3243 fps) in a 24 inch barreled Sako that was almost new. The accuracy was phenomenal both with the Partition and the Ballistic tip but the speeds averaged 3055 fps... I've used Nosler bullets extensively and have usually come very close or exceeded their book's speeds. A longer barrel as you mention may make a substantial difference.
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thanks again for watching and the comments. Please share the videos if you don't mind!
@paulhomsy2751 Жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I don't mind at all. Your videos are well organized, intelligently put together and extremely informative.
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. KZbin's been killing me this year
@BlueTJay Жыл бұрын
I have the same, Sako 85 in 7mmRM using 4831sc 24" barrel, but was told that the 26" is normal for 7mm rem mag any manufacturer, but i cant seem to get my own loads to meet Nosler book for velocities. Also, I have been seating 10 th back of Jam. This week will experiment with different seatings. Have a coupel of boxes of Fedral facotry ammo and they give very close velocities to factory expectations. So I am thinking of changin powder from 4831SC to something else, 4350?
@kevinorr44442 жыл бұрын
I use a 140 grain bullet in front of 59 grains IMR7828ssc in my Howa with 22” barrel and get a little over 2900 fps with under 1/2 groups routinely May give it a try
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Just got some of that powder. Which bullet in particular?
@yooper77532 жыл бұрын
John Nosler designed the Partition bullet in 1947 and started selling them to the public in 1948. Not 1951! My Ruger M77 MKII in 270 Winchester with 22 inch barrel loves IMR-4831 with Nosler's 150 grain Partition bullets. IMR-4831 acually loves to be compressed at maximum charge for the best accuracy. I get about 2800 FPS, but velocity doesn't matter to me. Accurate well placed shot is more important.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the correction. I don't know where I read that about the bullet. Totally agree about the well placed shot. Godspeed and good hunting
@jamespugh3 жыл бұрын
Very cool video on the old standby for must big game hunters. Mr. Nosler made that bullet after haveing a bad moose hunt had put multiple shot and had bullet break up . Seen some 6.5x284 brass being sold through nosler shooters pro shop . Think I sent the link to you through mewe.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Cool thanks man
@jamespugh3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics no problem. Got look after us fellow hunters and shooters
@guardianminifarm80053 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I4831 has proven to be excellent in 7RemMag over the years.
@slowpoke53783 жыл бұрын
I'd love to put those 140gr. Nosler's threw my Sako AV deluxe with a 24" barrel.Win win I'd have the speed and the hitting power.I'm thinking on getting back into reloading maybe.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
That's a nice rifle. Should get just under 3000 fps
@brianalexander8460 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my Tikka 270.!! I've had great results with 110 grain Hornady vmax. Man you talk about total devastation and fantastic accuracy.Its really worth a try.!!
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
It totally won't even penetrate game up here. A bullet that breaks apart is no good up here.
@goranmalnar51723 жыл бұрын
John Nosler give us one of the best bullets ever, not so accurate but one of dedliest!!
@bobd85533 жыл бұрын
I’m getting around 3000fps out of both my 22” .270s. H4831 140gr. You can get more speed. I have heard that tikkas sometimes produce lower speeds. Cant tell ya why. If you are not getting pressure signs up the powder or try a different one.
@falba14923 жыл бұрын
What type chrono are you using? That’s off the charts in my experience using H4831, and a 24” barrel.
@bobd85533 жыл бұрын
@@falba1492 Thats straight from the hornady manual, 59.9 gives a velocity of 3000fps. I'm getting 3028 in my savage 22". Where are you getting your data?
@falba14923 жыл бұрын
@@bobd8553 - I start off with the Hodgdon site, because they usually have a larger powder load for a specific weight projectile than most loading manuals, and I trust they are safe. Barnes is also very good for max loads, Nosler not so much. So Hodgdon says for H4831 58 gr. max for a 140 gr. projectile, but Barnes has 60.3 on a 140 TSX, 3,018 ft/sec with a 24” barrel. But I typically lose 30 ft/sec on a 22” 270 Win barrel. I’ve not really used the Hornady loading manual, because I mostly use hunting bullets, and I believe there are better options. But their match bullets are excellent. I don’t believe you mentioned what bullet your using, just the weight.
@bobd85533 жыл бұрын
@@falba1492 I took a look at the hodgdon webpage, you are correct with the data provided. I'm using a 140 nosler accubond in my savage and 140 sst in winchester pre-64. When there is so much differing information from manufacturer to manufacturer I began analyzing my brass for pressure signs and keeping accuracy. I also use only hunting bullets. I have found the the most reliable book is the Hornady, the nosler is a joke, advertised velocities are way off.
@falba14923 жыл бұрын
@@bobd8553 - I think all the books are a bit optimistic, but Nosler is wayyyy off the numbers. Barnes load data is about 30 to 40 ft/sec off in my experience. But I wonder how accurate most people’s chronos are?
@stephenland9361 Жыл бұрын
IMR 4831 has a slower burn rate than IMR 4350. IMR 4831 works beautifully in the medium type magnums (7mm Rem mag, 300 Win mag, .338 Wim mag) with heavier bullets. In a .270, a 24 in. barrel and a 140 gr. bullet, IMR 4350 (I think) will be better. I use IMR 4831 in my .300 win mag using 180 gr. bullets and it's a tack driver at a full 3000 fps. Now, if you had a .270 Win with a 26 in. barrel (yes they exist) and went with a 150 gr. bullet, IMR 4831 would be the cat's pajamas. So would RL-26. You'll need over 60 gr. of RL-26 but it will push a 150 gr. bullet at just over 3000 fps. That's magnum territory from a standard sized cartridge.
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice.
@MrHf4l3 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t have any issue getting half inch groups with that gun. You need to try some other powders. Or, try the other 4831. I have best loads with this cartridge at near max charges. You should be able to get between 2900-2950 with a 140 grain partition or accubond.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Agreed thank you
@leestone1885 Жыл бұрын
Im getting about the same velocity with 150gr accubonds same powder same caliber seemed a bit low for a 270 🤷🏻♂️ but accuracy was incredible
@leonardmorgan3592 жыл бұрын
I just got some nosler 150 grain bullets and brass for hand loading I should expect at least similar performance if not better. I will note my rifle doesn’t like 150s best groups I get are with 140s but I’m excited to see the results this hunting season
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@leonardmorgan3592 жыл бұрын
Hey chuck so I don’t know if you remember or not but I commented on this bullet and how I got some 150s for my 270. Well I tested the bullet I don’t have a chronograph so I couldn’t test velocity but my buddy loaded them with 55gr h4831sc. The book said i should’ve gotten 2900 but I think the velocity is more around the neighborhood of 2770 and 2800. Anyway my bullet went through 5 jugs punched a hole in 6th and fell to the ground. I just used that load on a bull moose a few days ago bullet went 3.5 feet into lungs muscle and bone stopped in other side rib. My shot was in an angle behind his right shoulder so bullet travelled towards his neck and stopped in the rib meat. If you ask me that’s great performance on large game. I’m very satisfied with my results
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
I would be too... what kind of bullet?
@leonardmorgan3592 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics it was the 150 gr nosler partition out of my 270 win.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@bobbygetsbanned60492 жыл бұрын
If you don't have any pressure signs I would load more powder until you do then back off some. 2750ish is pretty slow for that load.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Agreed was definetly not max.
@danoneill28463 жыл бұрын
Good Job !
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan
@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын
I'm a crappy shot so at the 40 yards I shoot at, I think that velocity and accuracy are fine.
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Absolutely for whitetail in a deer stand,
@Accuracy1st2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting 3010fps with Berger 150 VLDs over H4831SC, Fed210M primers, Win brass in my Krgr barreled 270. Barrel is 24"
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Accuracy1st2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Frankly I was shocked when shooting through the chrono but I verified it through JBM ballistics which was consistent out to 700 yards. My 168 VLDs out of my 7RemMag over Retumbo are going faster
@malcolmdennis503 Жыл бұрын
That’s 7-08rem performance You really need to be around 57.5 with a 130 gr bullet using imr 4831 , plus it’s very temperature sensitive I would go with H4831
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice
@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill2 жыл бұрын
Maybe try H4350. No longer on youtube unfortunately, but HuntSimple had best luck with that powder in 270. Also load data velocities are done with 24" to 26" barrels, so that is probably why your velocity was slower.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Yep but i expected a little more lol. I've got some to try.
@brianklamer33283 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried the Swift A-Frames in 140 or 150 grain for the .270? Have heard men say that they are an extremely sturdy built bullet. Thanks! Brian Klamer
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I haven't. Will as soon as I can
@michaelhennegan96377 ай бұрын
Try h4350, it may improve your group size, what you are getting isn’t bad though,
@AlaskanBallistics7 ай бұрын
Thank You for the suggestion! I'll try that.
@swampbiologist2 жыл бұрын
I would put Nosler Partition bullets up against any other bullet for killing power! They are not the most accurate but certainly accurate enough for the end result that they deliver!
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
I like the barnes ttsx and lrx better, but there's nothing wrong with the partition
@Leverguns503 жыл бұрын
A lot of your velocity is going to depend on how deep you set the bullet
@BlueTJay Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree... with heavier and longer bullets its easier, but with 130 and 140 in the .270, the bullet does not sit long enough in the case to develop pressures!
@larrysayers13773 жыл бұрын
If you can ever get a hold of reloading manuals published in the 60’s and 70’s you will see a difference in the max loads published then compared to the reloading manuals published today.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
They were more then?
@larrysayers13773 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Yes, the published max loads were higher than what is published now.
@falba14923 жыл бұрын
@@larrysayers1377 - That was before the lawyers got involved 🤣🤣
@alphadogpredators Жыл бұрын
U may want to try h4831sc I'm getting 3010fps avg out of 145gr eldx and 3050 out of 140 interlocks out of my 22in tikka .270
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
I'll try that. Thanks
@kylecasetta4091 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a comparison nosler partition vs swift A-frame?
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
No but i need to
@johnnorman77082 жыл бұрын
We really do expect .270 to be pushing magnum speeds as a matter of its reputation. Is that totally fair or putting it to best use? I know of the deer I've killed with Hornady 140s it was a bit rough on the carcass with quartering shots. I could have used less speed and a bit tougher bullet under those conditions. Maybe those old slow round nose deer loads they once offered did make sense. They were not well received and dropped after a few years reportedly.
@davidreinhart4753 Жыл бұрын
56.8 imr 4831 asome in all 3 of 270 sako @ tika rifles here 140 bergers @ bear claws
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Nice
@donaldpowers83313 жыл бұрын
I used to shoot a 270 AI with 140 Partitions, had to go back to the 130 Speer , the Partitions would explode on Mule deer and White tails. You could stick your head in the hole after traversing the vitals. Too much damage, effective but wow what a mess.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Good to know. How fast were they going?
@falba14923 жыл бұрын
I’d love to know what velocities you got with the 270 AI? What twist rate did it have?
@CDinNC3 жыл бұрын
Try Reloader 22. I’m getting 3234 in a 22” Winchester FTW WITH a 130gr. It’s worth a try.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Tried it with the accubond long range and it was 3" groups. But my 6.5x284 Norma and 7mm Rem Mag love it
@mcbridecreek2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Gotta love 4831. Mine has been seasoned 55 years! Haha. Classic!
@davebrunette63942 жыл бұрын
😎
@nighthunter57602 жыл бұрын
I am using 200 gr Patition my 8x57 rifle. Great for pig hunting.
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
I bet they're perfect for that
@shanerhodes9253 жыл бұрын
I would try some 4350 or rl 17 maybe just to see what is going on amd my tikka rifles all of them have liked a good charge of whatever powder I'm using for some reason. In 7mm08. Like 4 or 5 tenths over book max is where mine liked it and in 300 win mag I'm like .3 or something under max book charge so fairly hot loads and the tikka eats it up with a likness
@BlueTJay Жыл бұрын
Nosler tell me that Partition bullets need to be seated 50-70 th back of jam. How far did you seat yours?
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Not quite that far
@timallen60353 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought about the Nosler Partitions in a long time. I'm beginning to wonder how much longer lead is going to be around for anything so I'm starting to pay more attention to solid projectiles. For those, as I've said before, I really like those GMX bullets and ones like that for hunting.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
True
@cugir3212 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Nosler is a bunch of satanic liars......the bullets are out there.....they are using them to load factory ammo and sticking it to the reloaders.....don't waste your time working up a load.....you can't get them....maybe one box a year.
@fedup35823 жыл бұрын
Good thing it was able to get groups around an inch, otherwise we would never be able to hit that moose at 200 yds.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Lol true
@mr.mr.33013 жыл бұрын
Would you take these or bonded bullets. Also try blue box federal 130 also called nontypical now.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
If we could find any... sure I'll stick with barnes LRX
@mr.mr.33013 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I’ve learned a lot about bullets binge watching old videos. How they hold together tells a lot.
@3DOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the lower velocity kept the bullet together.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
True
@rickstrandberg63986 күн бұрын
2 in shorter barrel, and flat base is prob loss of vel
@AlaskanBallistics5 күн бұрын
Yep
@nighthunter57602 жыл бұрын
Nosler,Norma,Swift and Sierra.
@tylarhaugan79083 жыл бұрын
I was going to try these for my 270 but only could find swift a frame. Which is a bonded partition. I am using imr4350 140gr a frame
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
How's that working?
@tylarhaugan79083 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I don't have my chrono yet. But they shoot 1 moa constantly. 4 grains below max
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@tylarhaugan79083 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics will burn one through deer this year. Testing my barnes 175 lrx in 300 winmag on elk. Oh if you have creedmoor still try 156 norma oryx bonded soft point elk slaying machine through 20 inch gas gun.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
@@tylarhaugan7908 if I can find the bullets sure.
@martinlarocca27663 жыл бұрын
Maybe try 4350 or RL17. They are alittle bit faster burning.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I will thanks
@falba14923 жыл бұрын
If the 270 has a long throat, like in the Tikkas, H4831 will give you a tad bit more velocity than H4350, but at the expense of like 10% more powder. But, I’ve always gotten better SD’s with 4831SC. Not experienced with R17, because it’s not temperature stable, and I live in the heat lol.
@nicholasbarcomb23243 жыл бұрын
Amazingly enough, none of my Tikkas liked Nosler bullets. So, not sure how much I can help with that!! 🤔
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Yeah mine seems to like cheap winchester powerpoints
@nicholasbarcomb23243 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics , I use Hornady bullets mostly, if I need a tougher bullet, I go to the Woodleigh PPRNs or Hammer bullets.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
That's a great choice
@johnmcveigh61333 жыл бұрын
Perfect mushroom! Speed is nice, but is NOT everything! 4+ jugs of water! I'll take accuracy over speed any day! Perfect mushroom!
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Agreed but i do want it to get out there for moose and caribou
@haneshuntspnw72832 жыл бұрын
So what lakes have you found works best with the Tikka? Did you ever come up with a better load that got you sub Moa?
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
So far Winchester 130gr powerpoints shoot the best. The .270 is on hold for a while because my wife's not hunting for the next few years much
@haneshuntspnw72832 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics do you reload the PowerPoint or just buy the factory ammo? I have the best results with the factory power point 130 grain ammo as well
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Just buy it when I can
@YellowHammer263 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@johnisgoodjohnisgreat54493 жыл бұрын
If you ever got the chance to review 300 PRC would you do it? I know it’s another 30 cal magnum but many find it a cool cartridge
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Of course I would
@johnisgoodjohnisgreat54493 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Hell yeah, also a top 5 or 10 or however many you’d be willing to do Smokeless Powder video would be lit, IraqVeteran used to have one like that but it got taken down and I know you’re a pretty avid reloader so that’d be sick af
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I'm just getting back into it. Every powder and rifle is different. I'll have to look into it though
@johnisgoodjohnisgreat54493 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics oh yeah that’s true, I guess you could start with hunting rifle powders idk but I love your channel I’m thinking of doing my own channel since I’m not only big into firearms but also reloading and powders and some of the science that goes behind it all your channel is a big inspiration for what I wanna do since it touches on some of that stuff
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
@@johnisgoodjohnisgreat5449 do it man
@markhasleton64032 жыл бұрын
24 inch barrel a better choice
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Now if they'd just make .270 with a 1 in 8 twist
@jdg56823 жыл бұрын
How about a good 270 vs 30.06 series
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
You might have missed this then.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaiwXqSqht12pbM
@marvinbrock96011 ай бұрын
A chronograph has broken many a heart! 😂. Don’t seat the numbers so much.. 100fps plus or minus just doesn’t make that much difference.. hunting rifles…. That Partition at 2750 is a killer…
@AlaskanBallistics11 ай бұрын
Agreed. Godspeed
@Leverguns503 жыл бұрын
Chuck If you want tips on making your rifle more accurate or your ammo go check out Kenny’s channel at eagle eye shooting
@markknox1825 ай бұрын
When a bullet is spinning, why not just measure its widest point ?
@AlaskanBallistics5 ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@mattyv74993 жыл бұрын
The accuracy issues is because your not in the accuracy node for 140gr pills. Look for 2950 to 3050 velocity. You will find accuracy there. Do a proper load dev. Book maxes have been dropping like crazy over the years. 60+gr of H4895 would be the place to be. Maybe start at 59gr and go right up to 62gr.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice
@jontalbert54482 жыл бұрын
skinny bullet--lots of bearing surface. a150 out of a 30-06 is faster than a 150 from a .270. stick with a 130gr Hornady 130 gr sp. your 270 will SHINE!! OH! IMR 4350 OR IMR 4831
@AlaskanBallistics2 жыл бұрын
I've got some of both of those powders
@leewoiteshek41923 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with the other posters. The Partition just isn't a extreme accurate bullet. Fine for hunting but not PRS. I have to point out that with this particular load, it was 6.5 Creedmoor numbers. With everything being the same, I'd go with the smaller action for more accuracy, less weight, and less recoil.
@AlaskanBallistics3 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with you there. And having seen what 6.5 creedmoor does on caribou... no issues taking a creedmoor anywhere.
@falba14923 жыл бұрын
All Tikkas are large standard actions. The pin in the bolt release determines the bolt throw. Same for many manufactures. Not to say that a 6.5 Creedmoor is not capable, but I got one for my 8 year old, until he could shoulder a 270 Win. The 270 is just way more practical than a 6.5 CR in hunting applications. PRS is not hunting, I wouldn’t want to hunt in Alaska with a 6mm anything either. The partition is not a match bullet, it’s meant to kill. Match bullets are accurate, but the are dismal for hunting. “There are horses for courses,” as the Brits like to say.
@poorfatman53173 жыл бұрын
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@anthonymurphy2540 Жыл бұрын
Maybe your rifle like the 130. Class bullets and not the 140
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
I do think that is the case!
@wsnapper33773 жыл бұрын
I've had better luck with RL26 and H1000 in my 270 win with Weatherby Vanguard, although it has a 24"