(300 WM) Nosler 180gr Partition Expansion Test

[@jefferywilliams7687]

I been hunting with Partition Bullets for 50 years! Never had a failure. Recently, shot a 6X6 bull elk from A steep down hill angle at about 200 yards thru a hole in the brush. I was shooting a 300 Wby Mag with a 180 Partition Spitzer that would chronograph at 3,258 1st cold shot from dirty barrel. Bullet impacted bull in right front shoulder ball joint. Broke 2 left ribs. Took out the bottom of his lung and top of heart and exited thru left rib cage taking out two ribs. Left a golf ball size hole all the way thru him. 1 shot, 1kill. Trick, I carry steel wool and keep my points clean and sharp like a pencil. I would take with the Partition or Oryx to Africa tomorrow! Shooting distance in most cases is closer in Africa than North America. In North America if shots are 500 yards are less I would take the Partition. One exception is dangerous game Like Cape Buffalo, Brown Bear, etc. then I would chose a Swift A-Frame. I would like to see you do the test on the 175 7mm (BC = .519) and 140 6.5 MM (BC =.490) from Ultra High Velocity Cartridges.

[@rickhordichok5949]

Great comprehensive videos on so many bullets. So enjoyable learning from all of your efforts. Thanks very much😊

[@rorybrowning8336]

You get precisely what you pay for. Best game bullet in my book

[@johnfaulkner4067]

I meant to also say also, you make great videos! I'm just offering a different perspective and I don't want to sound critical of your reports. I appreciate the information you provide. Thank you for sharing your work with us.

[@doghousedon1]

Finding a Partition bullet has been impossible to find the last couple of years. I had to find a substitution. Which I eventually did. I'm not coming back. Next time, Nosler, close the gate BEFORE the cows get out! Thank you for the vid.

[@josephhegedusiii9563]

You guys should do a corlokt vs tipped corlokt comparison.

[@Twistedoff2]

Wow! This has been my go to bullet for a while. I'm sure glad you're doing these videos. I have some Accubond 200s for the 300. I watched that video too. May need to load'em up and go test. Thanks and keep them coming. I love to see the data you're generating.

[@tripplebeards3427]

Love the partition. I used a 200 grain version hand loaded on a 7’1” black bear. Bullet hole in and out in the hide and about a pie plate hole in and out of the ribs using my 300 RUM. The golds in 180 grain will all touch at 100 yards in my rum with hand loads. Shocked since the partitions normally don’t group as good as other bullets. I like the front end dump of the lead for mulitiple wound cavities for shock value and the rear keeps driving though. I’ll use it over any boned or all cooper bullet. I’ve tried both bonded and all copper on deer out out of my RUMs and the shock value is no where near the partitions.

[@tripplebeards3427]

The prices are ridiculous imo on all premium projectiles. I load plain old cup and core 180 grain projectiles in my rum and they do great on deer. Marketing hype unless your shooting elk, moose, or grizzly.

[@johnnorman7708]

The dual core concept is still very valid. There have actually been variations of the dual core concept by other companies. The Winchester Fail Safe was one of them. There was also a German made RWS bullet known as H Mantle. Design concepts that work never stop working. They may get improved or eclipsed by other designs, but the basic cup and core jacketed soft point bullet from the late 1880s and 1890s is still pretty much with us and taking deer size and larger game by the unbelievable tonnage every year. Improved yes, but essentially the same concept from the advent of smokeless powder/jacketed bullet era and the huge jump in rifle bullet velocity.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Excellent bullet. Good demo & good results. Excellent perspective. Thank you

[@jamesmooney5348]

I wished they would put a plastic tip on it and boat tail with over all bc improvement, but they're already expensive enough! Still, love the Partions!

[@leonardogarcia2506]

I’m definitely surprised! The bullets look nothing like the pics of the famous partition bullet mushroom from pretty much every pic ever taken of that bullet. Again, great video guys.

[@paulhomsy2751]

Water is a brutal medium. I've used these extensively on game and seen a few lose their top core but mostly lose some weight yet retain lead on top while none lost their rear core. Even with all the new bullets on the market, I wouldn't hesitate to use a partition. Usually 180 grains or 200 grains in a 300 magnum.

[@workct4102]

@@paulhomsy2751 you can take a Core-lokt and use it in gel, water, or game animal and they always look the same. So how can you even compare them?

[@SeanAggus]

Love to see 200gr partitions tested. Just bought some for my wby vanguard in 300win. I have issues with 190 & 200gr accubonds grouping consistently. Thought process is related to COAL and seating depth and the partition is a shorter bullet than the accubond.

[@frontlinerejects8029]

We can add that to the list - If we do test the 200 it probably won't be in 300 WM since we've already ran the 180, it'd likely be in 300 Weatherby if we can get out hands on one.

[@jamesmooney5348]

Good job.

[@frontlinerejects8029]

Thanks!

[@bobbyc2768]

that's a beautiful shooting spot...what state are you guys in? i am looking to move to a free state that has good land to shoot on, i live in CT right now and it sucks. they just passed even more gun laws on top of the terrible set of laws we already have, so i'm getting the hell out of here

[@Honey_Badger_DC1]

Hornadys eldx bullet seperates like that too and people are saying thats a really bad thing.....no idea why maybe some1 can help me understand? Are they and these noslers good hunting bullets or should i trash 3 yrs of working out a good eldx load ?

[@AlaskanBallistics]

That nosler partition is the best hunting bullet ever made, next to barnes lrx

[@albertaoutdoors9220]

Nosler Partition followed by GMX for me. Wish the prices were a bit more reasonable. But I’m a firm believer in spending money on the only piece of gear that actually contacts the animal. I’ve used Partition in 7mm mag and 308win, on deer , elk, black bear and moose. Just a great old school round that plain works. 40 yards to 325 yards, only recovered one bullet, shank intact and front smeared sideways , after passing through 2 shoulders and spine on black bear at 220 yards.

[@veteranironoutdoors8320]

Norma oryx is at the top of my list, followed by whatever bullet browning uses in its bxr line.

[@Marcusb338]

Nosler accubond has the same terminal performance with a better BC

[@frontlinerejects8029]

LRX over TTSX? Hmm might have to pit these two head-to-head.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@@frontlinerejects8029 seems to expand well after longer ranges. Would like to see you test at 700 yards.

[@tonybarnes5309]

Great video, I find myself looking forward to your latest video being posted. I would love to see you put a 180gr Speer Grand slam on that 300 Win Mag. Just because the Partition and the Grand Slam are from basically the same time frame when Mag rifles were fragmenting the bullets of that time.

[@WillyK51]

A Grand Slam is a bonded bullet like the Accubond. The Swift A-Frame is Partition and Bonded. Grand Slams are a bit on the tough side. But it's the one that groups under 1" in my rifle. There is one video on the 7mm Grand Slam in 280AI and check the new Speer Impact, a Bonded Grand Slam but boat tail like the Accubond

[@tonybarnes5309]

@WillyK51 Thanks for that information I have been looking @ the 190gr Impact for my 300 Win. Mag . I am not really happy with the bullet I have been shooting. I did pick up 180gr Grand Slam for it and 145gr for 7mm-08 debating whether or not to try in the 280 Remington it liked Nosler 150gr ballistic tip those reloads are from 1996 and I have taken Elk with and deer never even thinking or worrying about anything ignorance is bless they were the New Sexy bullet of the day.

[@WillyK51]

@@tonybarnes5309 Back in the 80's bought a box of 160 Grand Slams fot miy BLR in 7-08, but never used them. They are Ideal for the 280. Some time next year will rebarrel my old 1917 US Enfield to 35 Whelen(that's the one that likes 165 Grns Grand Slams. Plus have a pet proyect to build a cheap 7mm. 280 AI or 7mm RM using a donnor 300Wby action/rifle and rebarrel to 7mm and capable of seating out those long .bullets . Used for about $500 New $800 plus $600 Barrel. If Carbon barrel about $1000. Can build me a 300 PRC or 7mmPRC using 300WM or 7RM brass. Why is it I need to build a better mouse trap or Rifle? Greetings

[@tonybarnes5309]

@WillyK51 I totally und erstand that building a better mouse trap. That 280 Remington was a 98K Mauser action, Rebarreled out of Shot Gun News for $100. My two builds going on are a 300 win mag waiting on the bottom metal for seating out longer profile bullets and that 7mm-08 I have the new stock from Boyd's with a new scope. The scope rings showed up today. That 7mm-08 I necked down 308 brass because I couldn't find brass and had to fall back on what I did with that 280 I was broke from building the gun but 30-06 brass was very common so I necked down and fire formed with a light load. I was in the service, and a friend was divorced and he could not have the press in the barracks, so we put it in my garage. Every person had a 30-06 because of all the ammo that was in a depot left over from WWII

[@WillyK51]

@@tonybarnes5309 I'm not experienced as to which standard long actions/magazine will allow you to go beyond OAL lengh for seating out a bullet like in the 300WM. My Idea is to get a Mag action like the 300Wby or 6.5 Wby and rebarrel to 300 WM or 7MM RM so I can seat out and accomplish a 300PRC performace with cheap 300WM brass. 300 PRC and 30 Nosler didn't get the following I thought. Tempting to go 28 Nosler just if you want extreme speed. but 7RM good enough for me. Thanks ahead

[@paulhomsy2751]

The partition has always been "relevant". It still is, as it will be in decades from now. No experimental test is going to reinforce or diminish its relevance.

[@zeke1eod]

Nothing wrong with Partitions, been killing game for 3/4 of a century, I agree price is getting out of hand, that's where I believe We The People need to confront the manufacture(s) and stop the insanity. I think the average hunter will not be taking shots over 350 yards so the "need" for high bc is more of a want. Stay safe and God bless

[@workforaliving2]

I would rather pay 1/3rd of the $ and use a Hot Core or Grand Slam. I did my own test with my 338WM 250gr Noz Partition and a Rem Core Lokt. The Rem went through the 1/4" pipe (Big Exit Hole) and the Noz dented the other side. Could have been a under loaded Fed Premium but the Rem went through. Oh and my buddy laughed at me because his 30-30 went through half of the pipe and dented the other side to. Just saying At up to 3000 ft sec ...a Core Lokt, Power point, grand slam and hot core will do as good if not better. The partition has no better BC either. If over 3000ftsec i want Bonded or Monolithic. If im paying big $ for bullets ill get a bonded bullet or monolithic for the same price as Partition

[@tomlarue654]

Have you tested the Accu Bond?

[@frontlinerejects8029]

We do have a presentation on the Accubond in 270 WSM, you can find it in our Expansion playlist. We have tests coming up with the 200gr Accubond through our 300 WM soon.

[@tomlarue654]

@@frontlinerejects8029 thanks

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

Did you mention the muzzle velocity?

[@frontlinerejects8029]

You can see it in the upper rand hand "values" box at time 5:00. (3,112 fps)

[@brianrobinson1975]

180 partition out of a 30/06 is incredibly reliable from 300 yards in on any game in North America

[@jamesmooney5348]

I just recently found two boxes of 170 round noses for 30/30. They should be fun.

[@workct4102]

Of NP? These were my latest test. Out of a 16.5" barrel and about 2000 fps, the bullet still broke apart penetrated less, and expanded less than the 170 Core-lokt

[@jamesmooney5348]

@@workct4102 That's interesting!

[@jamesmooney5348]

@@workct4102 Maybe I should run them in my 308 instead. I do like the coreloks.

[@josephhegedusiii9563]

This is the bullet im shooting out of my .300 weatherby. 180 gr. at 3200 fps.

[@johnfaulkner4067]

I would hesitate to rush to the conclusion that the Oryx "wins out" in terms of performance just because it retained 90% weight retention and gave 3X expansion. It seems to me this type of test really only shows the expansion at given ranges. Although this is very useful, I would like to see what the comparative penetration is between the two, as well as the wound channels. I would venture to say that the very large frontal surface on the expanded Oryx at 3X bullet diameter will result in reduced penetration. John Barsness has written about this and and learned through years of study and research as a gun writer that the expanded bullet diameter is a major factor in depth of penetration for any given bullet. Of course, total depth of penetration is, itself, also not the by all end all either. A solid will penetrate, but is it better for most hunting? No. Most states require "expanding" bullets in their game laws for a valid reason. The Partition has proven itself to cause massive tissue damage through the expansion and fragmentation of the front core, and then deep penetration after that with the remaining retained rear portion of the bullet. It truly gives you the best of both worlds, violent expansion with deep penetration. That's why people love them. With a hunt cost of several thousand dollars, I'm not going to complain about a bullet costing $1-$2 each when it is what does the work for you.

[@workct4102]

They Oryx maintains more mass...that will result in better penetration.

[@Longtrailside]

Great round, but overpriced. Though now with mono bullets becoming mandatory for hunting in more and more states, these and other great rounds will be retired permanantly to ranges.

[@adamshaw8214]

Nosler e tip is an outstanding bullet. Huge mushroom and doesn't loose petals like Barnes ttsx

[@workct4102]

That's "textbook"? Why doesn't Nosler advertise these as such if it's "textbook"? At 500 yards you should have no separation

[@frontlinerejects8029]

Textbook in that it pealed back evenly on all sides, the front half of the lead flattened, and the rear portion of lead was retained - and it did it consistently. Nosler does market them as the "benchmark by which all hunting bullets are measured".

[@workct4102]

@@frontlinerejects8029 if you look at their publishing and marketing standard, the bullets very rarely look the same after testing. Now take a good ole Core-Lokt and PowerPoint...those are textbook results. The NP is a great idea that rarely executes.

[@Dalesarty]

Just use Barnes lead free burgers 🍔

[@scottscheuerman6170]

Nosler seems to me like they do over price there bullets compared to other brand’s of bullets not that they don’t make good bullets but so does other company’s

[@frontlinerejects8029]

I completely agree - I really like Nosler's stuff but I also really like Hornady/Speer's pricing.

[@moneyx3232]

I would never expect partition will have core and base separations. Pretty disappointing result for me.

[@nymeriagloves3957]

it kinda has to since its not bonded and it expands all the way to bottom of the front cup. at that point there nothing keeping it there

[@rskrilly]

That's what this bullet is supposed to do, actually

[@frontlinerejects8029]

Thanks for commenting!

[@moneyx3232]

@@frontlinerejects8029 Thank you for making all these videos! I really enjoy them.

[@WayStedYou]

It literally says that is what it does on the box.

[@BalkanOutdoorsman]

What I dont like is separation. Have seen and shot more quality rounds then Noslers Partition.

[@frontlinerejects8029]

My biggest complaint is price, they charge much more for these than a lot of other very high-quality options go for.

[@BalkanOutdoorsman]

@@frontlinerejects8029 if you manage to get your hands on Sellier & Bellot NSR (Noslers partition) you may see better quality. Not sure is it because Nosler made better quality for export or what but it showed better results on 105 yards then original,and is cheaper (atleast here in Croatia). Anyway they made it in coop together and with Hornady they made PTS. One question or favor is if you could test S&B HPC (hollow point capped) in 30.06,maybe?

[@frontlinerejects8029]

@@BalkanOutdoorsman Hmm that's interesting, I've heard of performance differences between different lot numbers but not between export locqtion. Just to be clear I don't consider these results too be bad, and yes! We can definitely test out some of those HPC bullets, in 30-06 shouldn't be a problem!

[@BalkanOutdoorsman]

@@frontlinerejects8029 They are defintely not bad dont get me wrong. I will post you here link to a page if you allow? They put some effort in it. P.S RWS makes interesting variation of it and is called H-Mantel check it out.