2nd Battle of El Alamein - End of the African Campaign DOCUMENTARY

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10 ай бұрын

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Kings and Generals' historical animated documentary series covering modern warfare continues with a video on the second battle of El Alamein fought in October and November of 1942, which brought to the end the North African campaign in which German commander Rommel, supported by his Italian allies fought against mainly British forces under Montgomery, Auchinleck, Alexander and others. This battle allowed the Allied forces to invade Italy opening another front against the Axis powers.
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@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 10 ай бұрын
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@pascalyung1406
@pascalyung1406 10 ай бұрын
Someone please help me! Does anyone know the name of the background music at 26:10 of K&G's Alexander Balkan Campaign video? Link here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ_HiJ-Pn56th68
@MrGout-qe8en
@MrGout-qe8en 10 ай бұрын
Something went wrong at 0:25
@ddjay1363
@ddjay1363 10 ай бұрын
Good vid. Your mis-pronunciation of Auchinleck was humerous though. ;-)
@thejbomb65
@thejbomb65 10 ай бұрын
Once you’re done with the pacific war, do you think you will do the western front? Eastern front?
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 10 ай бұрын
@@thejbomb65 still thinking, but something like that will follow
@rafaelgustavo7786
@rafaelgustavo7786 10 ай бұрын
To think that even with all the tactical genius, improvisation, and innovation on the battlefield, there is no way to ignore the most important element in a war: Logistics. The Campaign in North Africa is clear proof of this.
@yaldabaoth2
@yaldabaoth2 10 ай бұрын
Having 3 times the numbers probably helped the allies as well.
@lesdodoclips3915
@lesdodoclips3915 10 ай бұрын
@@yaldabaoth2only possible due to the allies better grasp of logistics.
@teddypicker8799
@teddypicker8799 10 ай бұрын
@@yaldabaoth2 The Italians heavily outnumber the British/commonwealth at the beginning before Rommel came but still hammered them. At the Battle of Sidi Barrani it was 36,000 British vs 60,000 Italians. Brits took 40,000 prisoners lol
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 10 ай бұрын
@@teddypicker8799 Operation Compass 😉
@teddypicker8799
@teddypicker8799 10 ай бұрын
@@yaldabaoth2 Also at the 2nd Battle of El Alamein where Rommel got destroyed it was 115,000 axis vs 195,000 Commonwealth
@doanphat1480
@doanphat1480 10 ай бұрын
As WW1 US General John J. Pershing famously quoted “Infantry wins battles, logistics wins wars.” And the 2nd Battle of El Alamein would demonstrate how logistic would beat Rommel in this scenario.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 10 ай бұрын
According to Frederick the Great or Napoleon Bonaparte (difference sources attribute this to either man), an army marches on its stomach.
@jboss119
@jboss119 10 ай бұрын
WW2 week by week is just finished the hour by hour 24 hour coverage of Dday... One of the quotes was that "the navy is a gun that fires infantry at the enemy"... The pershing quote is just as true.
@omarziad7548
@omarziad7548 9 ай бұрын
port said resistance in suez crisis war defeated Montgomery
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 8 ай бұрын
@@omarziad7548 LMFAO. Monty had nothing to do with Operation Musketeer, he was Deputy Commander of NATO at that time.
@kaiswork3998
@kaiswork3998 8 ай бұрын
it still depends doan
@marcobassini3576
@marcobassini3576 10 ай бұрын
The italian elite parachute division "Folgore" was holding the south of the Axis front and was hit by waves of tanks since day 1 of the battle. They managed to hold the line till the end without retreating a single meter. They finished the battle with only 10% of survivors and surrendered only when they had nothing left but stones to throw at the British tanks. Montgomery aknowledged the heroic stand of the division "beyond what was humanly possible" and let the survivors parade rifles in their hands in front of the British troops before being imprisoned. A white marble stone in the desert of El Alamein says: "Mancò la fortuna, non il valore” (it lacked luck, not valor).
@Mike-zf4xg
@Mike-zf4xg 6 ай бұрын
Italians were weak
@bastablax91
@bastablax91 4 ай бұрын
ti piacerebbe aahah. abbiamo fatto schifo dalla prima puntata all ultima. risparmiaci con la folgore
@steveburton9242
@steveburton9242 4 ай бұрын
In north africa, the italians did their best with what they had. They fought valiantly. Don't believe conventional wisdom of history.
@christiancaspillo8584
@christiancaspillo8584 3 ай бұрын
@@Mike-zf4xg Correction .The Italians were never weak.
@elivinture6672
@elivinture6672 10 ай бұрын
Rommel had no chance of winning. The brititsh forced the battle on their terms and stretched the axis to a breaking point, the battle was won before it even started, SunTzu is proud and content. Also, the production is magnificent!
@kaiswork3998
@kaiswork3998 10 ай бұрын
You clearly forgot the early war lol
@Mmjk_12
@Mmjk_12 10 ай бұрын
​@@kaiswork3998 I mean not really, the allies were always going to win because they had the manpower, economic and industrial advantage, it would just take time to come to fruition.
@jonasrodriguez9714
@jonasrodriguez9714 10 ай бұрын
​@@Mmjk_12in the russo-japanese war russia had a economy 6times bigger. Material superiority enhances the chances but it is no guarantee of victory
@Mmjk_12
@Mmjk_12 10 ай бұрын
@@jonasrodriguez9714 I mean I get your point but the 2 aren't really comparable, the Japanese had a better supply situation and their industry was localized and aided by Western European countries, similar to Ukraine today. Most of the Japanese capital ships were British built for example. But true, it's no guarantee of victory. Germany was overwhelmed, it was facing the entire world.
@jonasrodriguez9714
@jonasrodriguez9714 10 ай бұрын
@@Mmjk_12 germany destroyed the BEF the french army and poland in 9 month although combined they were stronger in terms of industry and army. When germany attacked the SU it signed her fate like napoleon 130 years before. Both were capable of destroy superior alliances. Defeat always is possible.
@HistoryfortheAges
@HistoryfortheAges 10 ай бұрын
As a History professor I have always had a passion for teaching my students about WWII. I tell them that the generation that fought in that war is nearly all gone. It is also why I took my lectures and put them up as a free resource for anyone who wants to learn more about the war. I have a short lecture on this battlr as well but I hope folks get a chance to watch my lecture on D-Day. I also have one on a man named Sam Sachs. Sam was both part of the invasion at Normandy as part of the 82nd Airborne, 325th glider pilot, and he liberated a camp of Holocaust survivors during the war. Happy to share
@mctielpresidente
@mctielpresidente 10 ай бұрын
This is excellent to hear! U now have a new subscriber!
@banimil7290
@banimil7290 10 ай бұрын
Would you call the Japanese in concentration camps in US during ww2 holocaust survivors?
@HistoryfortheAges
@HistoryfortheAges 10 ай бұрын
@Bani Mil no. Those were interment camps not concentration camps. They were a huge moral failure, but there was no systemic attempt to murder millions as took place during the Holocaust. So they are not the same
@banimil7290
@banimil7290 10 ай бұрын
@@HistoryfortheAges the Japanese were loyal citizens of this country with no record of undermining your financial system to benefit a very few and destroy the moral fabric and religious values and yet you questioned their loyalty and reacted in a defensive mode. And now you question the morality of what germans did to defend their country and their future against a minority guilty of all the charges. Their hatred for the gentiles spews out of the talmud. There are rabbies confirming all the charges against the jews and warning them of God's wrath if they deal with the gentiles in similiar manner as they did to the germans. There was not a systematic mass murdering. Most of the casualties took place when the logistics were broken from allied bombing. Why is that everyone why tries to question the jewish nerrative of holocaust comitts career suicide or worse and why are there laws against denying it? It is the only part of history which can not be questioned? As a history teacher you can not be that naive. What plagued Germany after ww1 is plaguing US now. You can choose to live in denial but it is the next generation that pats the price ond so on.
@comradepolarbear6920
@comradepolarbear6920 10 ай бұрын
​@@banimil7290 nah. Definitely an egregious and blatant act of xenophobia and racism directed to our nations own citizens. But the Holocaust refers specifically to those unalved by the German state during WW2. This would not just include those who were Jewish, but also romani, disabled, LGBTQIA etc. Many of these groups are unfortunately overlooked in discussions regarding the Holocaust, especially the romani
@SuperibyP
@SuperibyP 10 ай бұрын
My grandfather participated in this battle on the side of the Allies as part of the Sudan Defense Force, a unit formed by the British. He was injured when his light vehicle drove over a mine. I never got to meet him, as he passed away before I was able to travel back home and meet him as a kid, but the stories I hear from my father about him are fascinating.
@gabbor3529
@gabbor3529 10 ай бұрын
The Italians fought giving their best in this battle... just think that the last communiqué coming from Ariete before its disintegration was: 《Enemy tanks raided south. With this Ariete surrounded. It is located about five kilometers northwest of Bir el Abd. Ariete's tank fight.》
@Badger13x
@Badger13x 10 ай бұрын
Very true the general view is that the Italians were poor fighters, but their units that were equipped with good arms in good quantities were the equal of any in the conflict. Italy being still fairly agricultural with limited resources were always going to struggle badly to adequately equip their armed forces.
@sandycaspillo6731
@sandycaspillo6731 10 ай бұрын
@@Badger13x the italians were good fighters they're weapons sometimes is not working or jammed.
@gabbor3529
@gabbor3529 9 ай бұрын
@@Badger13x Rather wrong to believe that the Italians were poor fighters. They only had a high command composed of people who became generals through nepotism (except Messe and a few others) and weapons that were not suitable for this war. As for the soldiers per se, they pulled their b@lls out when they had to fight. Another example I could give, always concerning El Alamein, is the action of the Folgore paratroopers who, despite having run out of ammunition and were worn out, never raised the white flag and fought until their annihilation (only 600 survived I think)...
@sandycaspillo6731
@sandycaspillo6731 9 ай бұрын
@@Badger13x And also The Italians are good fighters . Take an Example of Folgore at El Alamein.
@ThePacificWarChannel
@ThePacificWarChannel 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved writing this one, a legendary and very complex battle that changed the entire war! Logistics, Logistics, Logistics.
@dynamo1796
@dynamo1796 10 ай бұрын
The pronunciation is atrocious though. The narrator is ostensibly English but can’t even get Auchinleck right lol.
@matictelic
@matictelic 10 ай бұрын
Your writing is always very detailed and it shows that you are very dedicated to detail and accuracy. The storytelling is always on point, we appreciate you
@crazygrainger2006
@crazygrainger2006 10 ай бұрын
For Australian soldiers, both battles of El Alamein and the Kokoda Trail were fought at the same time. The Aussies were hard at work, and the Rats of Tobruk (9th Division 2nd AIF) landed at Lae in the South-West Pacific Campaign. Also on turning points, El Alamein happened 26 years after the Battle of Romani and 25 years after the Battle of Beersheba.
@troystaunton254
@troystaunton254 5 ай бұрын
Fun fact more than 1 general on Montgomery’s staff lamented the fact they did not have the Australian 9th division to deploy on D-Day. Which when you consider how wasted that forces was in the pacific by McArthur it’s a shame they weren’t in Europe.
@chrisgoldston9755
@chrisgoldston9755 2 ай бұрын
@@troystaunton254not wasted mate, defending Australia in the Pacific from Japanese invasion rather than being used as cannon fodder in Europe.
@EnclaveEmily
@EnclaveEmily 10 ай бұрын
A very important battle in modern history that a lot of people know very little about other than that it happened. Great stuff guys!
@robbierobinson8819
@robbierobinson8819 8 ай бұрын
My father was one of the few South Africans who managed to get out of Tobuk and with his vehicle and antitank gun headed south into the desert, evaded capture, met up with the Long Range Desert Group and reached Eight Army lines. There he was attached to an artillery regiment and fought through the first battle of El Alamein. Thereafter he was re-united with the South African forces for the remainder of the North African war.
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 10 ай бұрын
"The swine is not attacking" A sign that the Eighth Army were no longer going to fall for Rommel's predictable tactics of retreating his armour onto his hidden flak guns. This time it was the Germans who were now dancing to the Allies tune.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 10 ай бұрын
Yes, this greatly frustrated Rommel. I like this from Von Mellenthin. "" Montgomery was a master of logistics, in the desert we in the staff warned Rommel that our recce had seen fuel and ammo dumps forward of the battle. Rommel shrugged and said not important we will deal with 'another British general here'. That Montgomery did this meant that he believed where he would be in the weeks to come""
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 10 ай бұрын
@@lyndoncmp5751 Yeah as a strategist and planner he was very good and the Germans knew it. My top 6 for WW2 British commanders are Hugh Dowding, Monty, Slim, O Connor, Pip Roberts and Auchinleck.
@archivesoffantasy5560
@archivesoffantasy5560 10 ай бұрын
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- Hugh Dowding?
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 10 ай бұрын
@@archivesoffantasy5560 Oh yeah should have said i was talking about land commanders, if it's overall leadership, yeah it's surely Dowding.
@archivesoffantasy5560
@archivesoffantasy5560 10 ай бұрын
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- He was not a military commander but our overall most important person in WW2 was Turing in my opinion. Though Churchill’s unrelenting opposition was perhaps / probably the only reason others got the chance to show their skill.
@danumbert7983
@danumbert7983 10 ай бұрын
My great father fought in this battle serving under the Brescia division. He was captured after the destruction of the Brescia, Folgore and Ariete during the rear guard action.
@maximipe
@maximipe 10 ай бұрын
For all the trolling Italians get in the war here they fought as well if not better than any of the other forces.
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 10 ай бұрын
@@maximipe Yeah the Italians fought a brave rearguard while the Germans ran with their tails between their legs.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 10 ай бұрын
Von Mellenthin, Rommels 2nd in command at El Alamein wrote : "Montgomery was a master of logistics, in the desert we in the staff warned Rommel that our recce had seen fuel and ammo dumps forward of the battle. Rommel shrugged and said not important we will deal with 'another British general here'. That Montgomery did this meant that he believed where he would be in the weeks to come"" From Von Mellenthin: Panzer Battles, Chapter IX Farewell To Africa, pages 137/138.
@Ihatemyusernamemore
@Ihatemyusernamemore 10 ай бұрын
My grandpa was in this battle and he legit had a dream about it in the main room and was talking in his sleep about it. He's just on our couch us grandkids around and he starts mumbling stuff like talking about some gun like "you can feel that latch there you'll feel it click in" and "they're gonna come up over that ridge"
@grimkupid8478
@grimkupid8478 10 ай бұрын
My grandfather served in Africa during the war with the Royal Canadian Air Force, granted it was after this battle, but did bring back some of the few memories of him I have. Thanks for this trip down memory lane while learning more about this theater in the war.
@davidhughes8357
@davidhughes8357 10 ай бұрын
This visual concept and extensive detail is so exemplary. You always present masterpieces of military history. Thank you Kings and Generals!!!!
@sekytwo
@sekytwo 10 ай бұрын
You guys have probably the greatest military History documentary videos on KZbin! Excellent work guys
@Ihavpickle
@Ihavpickle 10 ай бұрын
I mean he's okay😒😒😒
@davidhughes8357
@davidhughes8357 10 ай бұрын
My father served in north Africa Sicily and Italy. This brings it to life after so many years.
@samuelmargueret9626
@samuelmargueret9626 10 ай бұрын
Kings and general is just epic you guys switch from different topic every week , it's like watching the tv but it's way way better !! Long live kings and generals !! You have my full support
@RafaelSantos-pi8py
@RafaelSantos-pi8py 10 ай бұрын
The way to become the best general is to also have the best quartermaster at your side fulfiling all your logistical needs. Remember Napoleon, "An army marches on its stomach.".
@McKamikazeHighlander
@McKamikazeHighlander 10 ай бұрын
Auchinleck's name is pronounced "ORK-in-leck". The narrator made him sound German lol
@t.wcharles2171
@t.wcharles2171 10 ай бұрын
Like the bird.
@WARLOCKIKITCLAW
@WARLOCKIKITCLAW 10 ай бұрын
Another amazing documentary! And kudos for highlighting the Italian efforts as well, since most 'common' history books focus primarily on the Germans and mention the Italians often as a side note.
@Brahmdagh
@Brahmdagh 10 ай бұрын
The biggest downside of operation Barbarossa for Germany was the fact that Lufftwaffe, which was already struggling in bombing Britain before the operation, was now stretched way too thin to secure the Mediterranean supply routes essential for this campaign.
@Swift-mr5zi
@Swift-mr5zi 10 ай бұрын
50% of German transport aircraft were in the Mediterranean sea during the Stalingrad airlift and Germany & Italy lost thousands of aircraft fighting for control of North Africa and the broader Middle East - Mediterranean zone of conflict in ww2. Keeping in mind the that 50% of all German war related output was on aircraft and the relative Italian strengths in aviation and its Navy compared to its Army, this zone of conflict begins to seem underrated. As one example, the siege of Malta, consider that the Axis lost 23% of its total merchant shipping (72% of Italian merchant fleet, over 500 aircraft.
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 10 ай бұрын
Add to the previous comment the fact that unlike their ground forces the majority of the Luftwaffe's strength was focussed West against the every increasing British and American Air Power. While 70 - 75% of German ground troops fought on the Eastern Front, for the Luftwaffe the ratio was reversed. 70 - 75% of the Luftwaffe's assets were in the West. So the effect of Barbarossa on Luftwaffe air power in the Mediterranean is often over represented. It was not even close to being as impactful as many try to claim. Did it have some impact? Of course, one does not open a second major front in a war without having to reduce forces elsewhere, but the major deployment of the Luftwaffe in Russia was focussed almost entirely on the initial Barbarossa attack, and by the time El Alemain was fought most of those air assets had already been relocated West. Hell, Germanys only specialised anti shipping unit was based in the Med for most of the war, and constant fast attack runs dubbed Rhubarb's by RAF Fighter pilots were constantly requiring German fighter responses to stop their air bases being too badly shot up. So even though the Strategic bombing had yet to hit its full stride, British and later American fighter sweeps were causing plenty of problems for the Luftwaffe in France and the Low Countries during this period.
@Brahmdagh
@Brahmdagh 10 ай бұрын
​@@alganhar1 According to Indy Neidell WW2 Episodes 164 & 165 in October 1942: "All hell broke loose in Stalingrad". At the same time as alAlamain Germans were also pushing heavy in the Caucasus A 25-30% is a large number. Probably around a few thousand planes. Likely enough to safely escort a significant number to convoys, if not tilt the balance of power in the air entirely. Axis might have even taken Malta earlier, which had survived by just the last thread.
@chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926
@chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926 3 ай бұрын
The Lufftwaffe actually came close to winning the battle of Britain on two occasions. 1: The R.A.F was basically brought to it's knees and would have been wiped out if the Lufftwaffe hadn't of switched it's objectives from bombing R.A.F bases to bombing British cities, this change in objective gave the R.A.F time to rebuild it's strength. 2: Near the end of the Battle of Britain some higher ups within the R.A.F ousted Hugh Dowding and the tactics these cretins introduced were so bad they would have handed victory to the Lufftwaffe, fortunately the Lufftwaffe had already given up on trying to win air superiority at this point.
@roykay4709
@roykay4709 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate all of these. Please keep 'em coming,
@vortega472
@vortega472 10 ай бұрын
I guess you guys changed your schedule for the Pacific - no complaints - just got used to it on Tuesdays - but happy we get some more WWII Documentaries. Keep up the good work, but know the Pacific is one of my major go to video fixes.
@andrehenrique2093
@andrehenrique2093 10 ай бұрын
You made a wonderful map for this video. Thanks again for more this high quality video.
@gordonferrar7782
@gordonferrar7782 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely magnificent bit of work.
@almighty5839
@almighty5839 10 ай бұрын
I’m so glad kings and generals is starting and doing more WW2 videos.
@indyrock8148
@indyrock8148 10 ай бұрын
My grandfather fought in this battle. Battalion lost their radio and they were caught between 6 panzers and 6 cruisers. He ran across the sand dunes to the cruisers and coordinated a combined arms offensive against the panzers! Cruisers and anti-tank guns Kidney Ridge.
@thebirdbrand
@thebirdbrand 10 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for you guys to do a WWII week-week documentary of the War in Europe akin to your Pacific War Series!! 🤞🏻😊🙏🏻
@ESANTAAR_T
@ESANTAAR_T 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful video. Makes me hope to see one about the battle of the Kasserine pass some day.
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 10 ай бұрын
Thank you , K&G . 🐺
@jamiekuzma8827
@jamiekuzma8827 10 ай бұрын
Another great episode, thanks guys
@Broken_dish
@Broken_dish 10 ай бұрын
the detail in this video is insane i always wanted to learn more about the details of the africa campaign like where the troop movements were how many corps where deployed things like that its hard to find a youtube video detailing such things they tend to just gloss over the big picture and the ones that do go into detail are kinda dry dont have this kind of animation to go along with the commentary these videos should be shown in school i had a ww2 class in high school and it did not even come close to being as good of a account of this battle as these videos do.. keep up the good work
@andreaannibale1465
@andreaannibale1465 27 күн бұрын
Very well explained. Thanks
@Swift-mr5zi
@Swift-mr5zi 10 ай бұрын
The Snipe outpost was defended by the 2nd battalion Rifle Brigade regiment, not South African or Kiwi units and they destroyed around 50 Axis armoured vehicles with a handful of anti-tank guns
@Latinkon
@Latinkon 10 ай бұрын
When CoH 3 originally released in March, I commented the lack of interest of Relic/Sega to appeal to history fans when they seemingly didn't sponsor KZbin channels such as this. I find it interesting they did this only after the fact the PC version got mixed reviews from players, and for the console version at that. Anyway, great video as usual!
@gura_dura
@gura_dura 10 ай бұрын
Goodness, looks so great and epic!
@omarbradley6807
@omarbradley6807 10 ай бұрын
The Qatara depression is composed of soft sand, thus the tanks couldn't traverse it, (it is one of eight of the existing depressions in the Sahara, but it is the closest to the sea and bigest)
@richardstone5552
@richardstone5552 10 ай бұрын
You do great work
@mohamedseif1479
@mohamedseif1479 10 ай бұрын
fun fact : the largest beach in the city of matrouh in masr (egypt) still carries the name of the great general rommel until this day
@bluespaceman7937
@bluespaceman7937 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting to learn about how they have named such a place. Good information.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 10 ай бұрын
Well, for one, Rommel used his tactic too often, the British became somewhat acquainted with it. And Gott's death was perhaps a blessing in disguise.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 10 ай бұрын
Yes. Rommel like Patton, only had one tactic and when that failed he had no plan b. Patton was the same in the Lorraine.
@jazh7874
@jazh7874 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@AgentGB1
@AgentGB1 10 ай бұрын
Great vid
@bvansenu
@bvansenu 10 ай бұрын
If anyone is curious what the text says in that frame in the first 30 seconds, it just says "Media Offline" in like a dozen languages.
@blu3508
@blu3508 10 ай бұрын
man I paused so many times to see what this was
@omarbradley6807
@omarbradley6807 10 ай бұрын
At Alam el Halfa, Walter Nehring was almost mortally wounded by an air attack and got replaced by Fritz Bayerlein, while Von Bismarck was killed by a mine.
@thibaultsardet7399
@thibaultsardet7399 10 ай бұрын
The Free French of Marshal Pierre Koenig were also able to give respite to the allies at El-Alamein, by holding the Axis forces for two weeks at Bir-Hakeim.
@Cosmic_Fury
@Cosmic_Fury 10 ай бұрын
(seems a downed frame at 0:25 made it into the video.) Red blip aside, this is fantastic presentation. I knew three or four WWII vets when I was younger, but neither had fought in the African campaigns. One was a member of the 82nd although he never spoke of his actions as part of that unit. Another fought on the Pacific front. One more worked in some field related to logistics within the US. One more after that (a grandfather) was stationed in Germany during the 50's.
@sebastianibacache6608
@sebastianibacache6608 10 ай бұрын
in my humble opinion, and after studying and analizing the british forces in the ww2 for a long time, i can say that Monty turned in to my favorite general as well the british forces , unfairly hated and underrated, you can actually see in the 2° battle of alamein itself how he restored and organized the shaterred eight army, only with the art of logistic, and then when he already have a firm front and restored army , attacked in complex manouvers as operation lightfoot and other massive ofensives, but all that thanks to the most important matter , the logistic and at the same time attacking and harassing the enemies resources convoys , affecting evenmore Rommel's logistic, tiding up a rope around rommels force's neck and limitating their movements and attacking strength. Putting this in another way... Monty made sure he wil win the battle (the entire capaign) at all cost, as he take the lead of the battle now forcing the germans to fight the battle at monty's style and not succumbing in the trap of fighting in rommel's style in a massive-tactic tank battle in a plain camp, a trap that many other british generals fell in the earlier moments of the campaign... Monty basically was an absolute experienced, and competent general as big as the other claimed generals of the time, but with his own style of fighting, a one that surely would make sun tzu very proud and glad, i could be talking about Monty's campaigns for hours but i think i made my point very clear, besides my english vocabulary is beginning to crumble xd , i'm not a native english speaker so i apologize for my grammar mistakes Xd i'm doing my best
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 10 ай бұрын
Indeed, and Rommels second in command at El Alamein Friedrich von Mellenthin agreed with you. "" That Montgomery was probably the best tactician if not the best strategist of the war is undoubted. we knew his methods well, his ability to move a division across our front in 1940 fighting by day and moving through the night was because of his adherence to training his men. His arrival in the desert changed the 8th army, he was ruthless in his will to win and impressed this on others. He was a very good army trainer and he changed the battle into an infantry battle supported by artillery. The devastation of his attacks with artillery shocked us. When the Americans stalled in 1944 (Ardennes), we knew without being told that Montgomery was in the region, he was very good at realising when a battlefield had become confused, we talked of his 'tidying up the battlefield' and reorganising lines of communication.Montgomery was a master of logistics, in the desert we in the staff warned Rommel that our recce had seen fuel and ammo dumps forward of the battle. Rommel shrugged and said not important we will deal with 'another British general here'. That Montgomery did this meant that he believed where he would be in the weeks to come"" From Von Mellenthin: Panzer Battles, Chapter IX Farewell To Africa, pages 137/138.
@jongason660
@jongason660 7 ай бұрын
Thankyou
@Constantine_the_great.
@Constantine_the_great. 2 ай бұрын
Nice breast
@anzaca1
@anzaca1 10 ай бұрын
Always cool to hear about New Zealand troops!
@Tankhorse02
@Tankhorse02 2 ай бұрын
The Māori battalion
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 10 ай бұрын
That decoy switcharoo was genius.
@shehansenanayaka3046
@shehansenanayaka3046 8 ай бұрын
Erwin rommel is the only commander who was the headache of allied commanders. He was a brilliant commander and tactician. Kings and generals one of my fav channels. Brilliant doc. Only the supply problem forced rommel to lose some battles and the decisive battle of el alamein. Love from Sri Lanka ❤️🔥.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 10 ай бұрын
Auchinleck is, to the best of my knowledge, pronounced, "Ork-in-lek".
@johnboxler8989
@johnboxler8989 10 ай бұрын
Great video
@vallodjaexp3049
@vallodjaexp3049 10 ай бұрын
Alam el Halfa was not a minor defeat considering that offensive strategic consideration was no more after that blow with a big loss of the tanks. Everything else awesome.
@jimschofield8734
@jimschofield8734 10 ай бұрын
Operation Bacon, Operation Manhood... Auchenleck was legendary at naming operations.
@paulceglinski7172
@paulceglinski7172 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video as always K&G. But I do wonder about your pronunciation of the Auks name Devin. I always thought it was pronounced like a "k", but could It be one of those George Bernard Shaw things, divided by a common language? LoL. Always great voice work though Devin. Cheers from Tennessee
@tarekmahfouz7635
@tarekmahfouz7635 10 ай бұрын
Strategically, ،together with Stalingrad, the battle of Alamein has definitely changed the course & tides of WWII "180 degrees". And on the national level, after the end of the War and up till this very moment, Axis & Allied nations have never upheld their international responsibility of demining those millions of landmines, unexploded shells and war remnants, which prevented Egypt from developing its Northern Coast for decades!
@user-pr2tz6ko9j
@user-pr2tz6ko9j 10 ай бұрын
Am from marsa matruh my grandpa told me that the population of Egypt was handing Italian and German flags waiting for their arrival and that the king of Egypt refuesed to send the egyption army to fight for the allies there Is alot of minesweeping in the area in el alamein there is also a beach named after Romel in matruh
@andrewsema359
@andrewsema359 10 ай бұрын
Another incredible story of the Desert War against the Afrika Korps. And how the battles ebbed back and forth. Thanks K&G. Everyday I learn how it was and share this with others who want to know about WW II and the Putin invasion of Ukrainian. Your team keeps me on my toes wanting more and what will be next covered.
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul 10 ай бұрын
A surprise to be sure, but most definitely a welcome one.
@danieln6700
@danieln6700 10 ай бұрын
It's interesting see how much logistics help
@omarbradley6807
@omarbradley6807 10 ай бұрын
It must be noted who Mussolini was actually the one who pushed Rommel to remain in contact after he solicited permission to whitdrawal, that is a reason of why the Italian units remained so long on the battlefield.
@antoniodemunari3335
@antoniodemunari3335 9 ай бұрын
It was also the fact they weren't motorized and had to moove by foot, Rommel also decided to sacrifice them to allaw his forces to withdrow
@ImminentDefence
@ImminentDefence 10 ай бұрын
Quick question 😅Does your Presenter misspronounce names sometimes or have I just been saying them wrong this whole time? For example Auchinleck. I thought it was always pronounced similar to Auckland, so "Aukinlek". I've noticed this in the Pacific campaign videos a fair bit as well.
@razorbird789
@razorbird789 10 ай бұрын
As a Brit I've only ever heard it pronounced Aw-kin-leck. I've heard many British words mispronounced by K&G, which is strange because they have a convincing British accent.
@thehistorybox1163
@thehistorybox1163 7 ай бұрын
Cheers
@Taree5_X_7adouta
@Taree5_X_7adouta 7 ай бұрын
thanks for the great video.. but there is a tiny mistake if you allow me to correct " ALAMEIN " city was named like this due to the presence of two mountains surrounding it " the salt mountain " جبل الملح and " Jabal at Tayr " جبل الطير and not because of the two flags which the british has placed at the railway station IN arabic , the word mountain has many names and one of them is ALAM " علم " and the word ALAMEIN means two mountains
@joshk96
@joshk96 10 ай бұрын
Love the North African campaign the back and forth and expert tactics are so interesting to learn about
@charlesjohnson6777
@charlesjohnson6777 10 ай бұрын
Outfoxing the desert fox himself
@beefy1986
@beefy1986 10 ай бұрын
I request Kings and Generals to make a full blown series on the African and Middle Eastern theatre of WW2 just like the Pacific series. Please its a massive request. You would be doing a lot of good. Also, an entire series on the Sicilian and Italian campaign would be a great follow up to the African campaign.
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 10 ай бұрын
I second that!
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 10 ай бұрын
Especially an episode on Operation Compass, a master piece of mobile warfare.
@nolanlewis538
@nolanlewis538 10 ай бұрын
Rommel success was partly due to his own brilliance and the incredible incompitence of the british, if he had proper supplies and reinforcements though he would have pushed the allies out of the middle east.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 10 ай бұрын
Myth I'm afraid. Rommel actually had overwhelming numerical superiority and enough supplies for a while in 1941 after the British diverted the majority of their forces to Greece and Crete. Rommel still failed to take advantage of this, outrunning his supply lines etc. He didn't fully grasp logistics. Nobody on either side in the desert war did until Montgomery came along.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 10 ай бұрын
@JCM- V He had enough supplies and fuel for a period in spring 1941. He had overwhelming numerical superiority as well at that point. He still failed to take Egypt.
@vikarsnkrs2071
@vikarsnkrs2071 10 ай бұрын
Next discussing the 1st and 2nd Chechen wars, I really want to know that, by the way, the historical content is very useful for knowledge
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE 10 ай бұрын
Good video
@bradleywoods1999
@bradleywoods1999 10 ай бұрын
I'd love a series on the war in africa ww2, just like the pacific series.
@owenowen212
@owenowen212 10 ай бұрын
21:13 What is a "simulated Chinese diversionary attack"?
@louisavondart9178
@louisavondart9178 10 ай бұрын
All smoke and mirrors. Lots of movement creating huge clouds of dust but no real attack.
@eMkaAce
@eMkaAce 10 ай бұрын
More historical stuff please.
@thomasandrew1279
@thomasandrew1279 10 ай бұрын
Finally, another good video about strategy on another great battle besides battles in Pacific War or War In Ukraine 2022. Great video, I like it
@Rob-pl9vo
@Rob-pl9vo 10 ай бұрын
Can you guys do some Patton stuff too? I love the rivalry him and Monty had
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 10 ай бұрын
There was never a true rivalry with them both, the rivalry was Monty and Eisenhower
@Rob-pl9vo
@Rob-pl9vo 10 ай бұрын
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- I would say that Patton very much disagrees with you. Haha
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 10 ай бұрын
@@Rob-pl9vo Perhaps you believe the movie, not the history?
@lesdodoclips3915
@lesdodoclips3915 10 ай бұрын
@@Rob-pl9vosadly that doesn’t matter. Monty held a much higher position than Patton, and any rivalry was one sided.
@releasereality64
@releasereality64 10 ай бұрын
Great documentary. what is the name of the theme playing at the end?
@commissarlorax3406
@commissarlorax3406 10 ай бұрын
Love your work chief, except it did bother me the pronunciation of Auchinleck
@matthewhancock7424
@matthewhancock7424 10 ай бұрын
sorry, what series was this video from? was there a video on the first battle? are there any other videos on the African campaign?
@ionvidreanu3408
@ionvidreanu3408 10 ай бұрын
I hope that you will consider making a video about the battle of Oarba de Mureș (Romania, Transylvania).
@DoctorXProducer
@DoctorXProducer 10 ай бұрын
After the 21st Panzer snuck in under cover of a sandstorm, the 18th Indian Brigade was decimated while holding off Rommel throughout the first day...they bought the 8th Army much needed time to respond. Wish K&G put more detail into the that valiant stand at Deir El Shein, since they knocked out 18 tanks, leaving Rommel with only 37 for the rest of Alamein.
@billy.g3597
@billy.g3597 10 ай бұрын
My Grandfather was a gunner with the 97th field regiment Royal Artillery. This regiment (or what was left of it) supported the 18th Indian Infantry brigade at Deir El Shein. When this position was finally over run my Grandfather was captured. Later he was killed aboard SS Scillin, along with 800 other POW's. My mother was barely 2 years old at the time.
@roy1299
@roy1299 10 ай бұрын
Anyone notice in between the intro about that red pop up for a split second?
@skootos
@skootos 10 ай бұрын
My grandfather fought in El Alamein with the Greek corps. He told me about the night battles which lasted 12 days. Told me about the patrols on the sea too. Their victory was a miracle given from a nearby church of Saint Minas he believed though. Like a tornado the germans were blown away, he said to me.
@marrrtin
@marrrtin 10 ай бұрын
My great uncle was at this battle in the Royal Artillery, commanding a battery of howitzers at the age of 19. It was, as Stalingrad, a turning point in the war.
@Dave_Sisson
@Dave_Sisson 10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised no one has commented on the pronunciation of Auchinleck, it's actually pronounced Awk-in-lek. Otherwise a really excellent documentary, but perhaps the writers should check the narrators pronunciation of names in the future?
@zamandijin
@zamandijin 10 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that is confused by the frame that says media offline by the 26th second ?
@vaughantutty2227
@vaughantutty2227 6 ай бұрын
My late grandfather fought there when he was 17, up against the desert fox My mother, said my grandfather, her dad,they respected Rommel but that was it
@sfperalta
@sfperalta 10 ай бұрын
Somebody should really train that narrator how to pronounce "Auchinleck" LOL!
@imathreat209
@imathreat209 10 ай бұрын
Good to see company of heros marketing team getting business. I used to be super good at coh2
@samhack7249
@samhack7249 10 ай бұрын
I love your videos and quality is all good same with wizard and warriors but on both channels the pronunciation sometimes genuinely annoys me since it lets you down.
@Luke-tw7wt
@Luke-tw7wt 29 күн бұрын
This battle is very important to remember but above all we must remember that when the situation became critical Rommel returned to Germany. "due to health problems" let's say it was a good choice to save their skin. while the Italians fought and resisted to the last man, the Germans cowardly ran away leaving the Italians alone. The Italian resistance was very valiant especially in some departments called " Folgore" the Italians after an intense discount fought to the death ill-equipped and in inferior numbers were overwhelmed by the English who had planned and demonstrated great determination in this battle. Honor to the victims of this war who sacrificed their lives.
@sanher20
@sanher20 10 ай бұрын
Please do the East African campaign and the battle of Tanga of WW1
@samuelbarreto6752
@samuelbarreto6752 10 ай бұрын
Why did you paint the desert blue and the water yellow? Its confusing my mind when I watch
@A.Severan
@A.Severan 10 ай бұрын
The Libyans were also a part of this campaign. A population of around 1 million fought the Axis, with some 250,000 of them dying in the process. Further, a substantial amount of what's labeled as the British army in this theater was composed of Libyan divisions. The Libyans are forgotten Allies.
@dayros2023
@dayros2023 10 ай бұрын
Why lie?
@A.Severan
@A.Severan 10 ай бұрын
@@dayros2023 What’s the lie? You’re welcome double check what I wrote. Your lack of knowledge about their sacrifice just proves my point about their being a forgotten allies.
@ginovisto8368
@ginovisto8368 10 ай бұрын
​@@A.Severan the libyans were at the time integrated in the Italians state Churchill in person lamented that they weren't supported by the natives population when they entered in libya
@A.Severan
@A.Severan 10 ай бұрын
@@ginovisto8368How is that the case when, according to the sources, the Senussi Order was instrumental in the Axis defeat in Libya. “Senussi groups led by Idris formally allied themselves with the British Eighth Army in North Africa against the German and Italian forces. Ultimately, the Senussis proved decisive in the British defeat of both Italy and Germany in North Africa in 1943.” The Libyan army itself traces its origin from its fight against the Axis during WWII, “the Libyan Arab Force, initially known as the British Arab Force before eventually becoming the Cyrenaica Defence Force in March 1943, was an armed combatant military unit paid, equipped and trained by the British Army during the Second World War.” Additionally, Libyans were relentlessly fighting what later became the Axis long before WWII, since 1922, when the fascists took over of Italy. I’d appreciate any contrary sources.
@ginovisto8368
@ginovisto8368 10 ай бұрын
@@A.Severan i did a quick research on the topic and i found out that some libyans really fought for the british in ww2 but they were used as garrison tropps mainly so i don't really understand what do you mean when you tell me that they were decisive.
@timberwolfe1645
@timberwolfe1645 10 ай бұрын
Wow!!! To think!!! If those planes hadn't shot down the guy in charge, then there would never have been a MONTGOMERY for the Battle of the Bulge
@nickdanger3802
@nickdanger3802 4 ай бұрын
Churchill "The President also sent us a large number of self-propelled 105 mm. guns, which are most useful weapons for contending with the 88 mm. high velocity guns, of which the Germans have made so much use. One ship in this convoy-this precious convoy-was sunk by a U-boat, but immediately, without being asked, the United States replaced it with another ship carrying an equal number of these weapons. All these tanks and high velocity guns played a recognisable part, indeed an important part, in General Alexander's battle." below 22 Hansard DEBATE ON THE ADDRESS HC Deb 11 November 1942 vol 385 cc8-56
@Titus-as-the-Roman
@Titus-as-the-Roman 8 ай бұрын
The British, adapting procedures first by the New Zealand-ers, their coordinated Time-on-Target Artillery barrages were Battle Winners which shortly all the Allies would incorporate into their Doctrine except for maybe the Soviets, their philosophy was an Artillery piece every 20 Feet for several miles and 20 feet behind for several layers
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