£3 Cheap Ceramics Coating - 6 months later Mr Fix Veteran 9h

Today we discuss how 2 of the cheap ebay ceramic coatings have faired after 6 months on a test panel...
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[@lachatseb]

Do you have a 3 min version of this video?

[@Yepppppppp533]

I recently put the 9H mr fix ceramic on my red 2014 Dodge Avenger and it looks amazing! I’ve had friends and people walk by my car and feel it because it’s extremely smooth and shiny and asked me to do their vehicles I highly recommend it! As long as you do the prep right as in clay bar, wax, clean and 50/50 alcohol and water then apply it you will be just fine and will turn out amazing.

[@SuperHahahaha123]

I've used to $10 Amazon one and it's seriously amazing! Easy application and lasts about 8-10 months in Fl weather on a daily driver.

[@abanoubarmanious9743]

What’s is it called?

[@eppyz]

@@abanoubarmanious9743 Believe he is referring to Mr Fix 9H

[@ladbrooklangtongunsmiths4425]

Thanks for taking the time John!

[@Derricky007]

I tried both. One thing i can tell you is that i tried the Mr. Fix on my car 7 months ago. It`s on a bright color ( metallic grey ). The apply process was not that difficult. I done it in portions. I applied it first on the hood, roof, trunk... I waited 3 minutes after applying and wiped it off. The result in my opinion is very good. I can`t really complain about anything. In my version there was not even a box, but i already used more of these bottles and in every package was a use instruction ! It clearly says that you have to wait on colder weather conditions 3-5 minutes to fulfill the cure process. On warmer weather you wait about one minute and then wipe it off. So to the point : Since it was colder and pretty rainy weather, i parked the car in the garage for about 14 days to let the coating harden as good as possible ( the instructions says it takes 1 hour to solidify the coat and 44 hours to fully cure ). So far, so good. I wash my car with active foam, and we all know that it is more aggressive than a common hand wash. The beading on the first wash was different than for example on Sonax BSD or on Sonax Polymer Netshield. The behaving is a lot of different in comparison to these two. The sheeting for my taste was excellent. There is a wide water surface that breaks into one point, and the water flows pretty fast down. The most interesting thing is that since the first wash until now, the car was washed approximately over 10 times with active foam ! The water repellent characteristics have not changed and are almost the same. In one case i tried it on a customers car and waited intentionally longer before wiping it out, and no surprise it was impossible on some spots to wipe it off completely. I had to remove it with a little bit of finish polish paste, since it was so bonded to the clear coat. That is the most negative point i see in this cheap ceramics coating. But all in all, i can say it is much better than expected. I usually use the Koch Chemie 1k nano ceramics coating. It`s a German manufacturer and a well known brand name. But if you are honest to your self, you can not judge that cheap product this way. In comparison of both products ( Mr. Fix and Koch Nano 1k ) to a long time period i think that both will offer a protection of one year of regular use. The circumstances of the expose to driven distances, sunlight, rain, dirt... are a factor that no one can calculate and tell in advance how long a product will withstand to all these obstacles. Another point is the preparation before applying the coat. Even cars that have paints that are in good conditions should be at least polished with some finish paste, like anti hologram or similar fine stuff. Afterwards a nice cleaning with alcohol is a must. Then you can count on the product and it`s full characteristics.

[@ForensicDetailing]

I think though derrick you had or have a totally different product to what I tested. you probably had the real mr fix? the veteren and the fake mr fix I had were very different... veteren was still very repellent after 6 months. fake mr fix wasnt. fake mr fix though I am convinced has more solids in it and less hydrophobic resins. veteren gives the illusion of stronger performance because of the hydrophobicity...

[@Derricky007]

That is the biggest problem. You never know what " original " and what " fake " is. Veteran that i had, gave a better beading than Mr. Fix. I saw a few reviews from others. One good test i saw from one person is who tested Mr. Fix with a cigarette lighter. He divided a hood with tape and he took the lighter and punched with the slight sharp edge from it on both fields. One field coated with Mr. Fix and the other had no coating. I payed attention about the power and intense he did it on both sides. The side that was not coated suffered decent scratches, the other coated side had a visible scratch that was pretty easy wiped out with a towel. Since we are no chemists, and are not able to research it in a lab, we can not know what ingredients really are in it. I think the brand or the product Mr. Fix is a cottage brand, like many products from the East. Fact is, and i am convinced that this product can compete with many so promoted " big company " products. We have so much products especially in the sealing category which are overpriced, but in reality their performance is awful. It is very hard to expect from a wax to withstand more aggressive automatic car wash shampoos that are pretty juiced up with chemicals. The last 2-3 years showed us all that polymer and ceramics based sealing products play in a higher league than all that fancy lotus and natural stuff like Carnauba wax. But as long as this cheap ceramics products do no harm to the paint, nobody is really losing. For professionals it is just interesting to review and to try it of curiosity. But in my case like i said, i am surprised that this product is so strong. One other proof that i saw that this is a pretty solid coat is the small cloth that i used partially during applying, as the product dried out, it was stiff, i could not believe it, that this is possible.

[@ForensicDetailing]

that lighter thing is basically a trick... its stuff like that that really puts people off using these products.. its not a valid test of physical protection... normally after that trick you see a guy with a flamethrower trying to burn the car...

[@Derricky007]

I know that most of this stuff is nonsense. I do detailing over 10 years now. But this is my experience with that cheap ceramics. There is no coat or anything else that can physically protect from hits of stones and hard particles. And that stuff with igniting fire on a hood is basically a premixed paste with a lot of alcohol that burns out pretty fast. On TV commercials it is pretty common. And all that stuff on that commercials is mostly crap and worth nothing. In my opinion Sonax CC36, Gyeon, Koch Nano 1k, and some other manufacturers are at the top end. Even them can not provide any protection from physical damage. Everything is just up to the user to choose which product and how much is a such product worth to spend money on it. But for a amount up to 15 US$ this cheap ceramics are awesome.

[@Derricky007]

Update, i got a 5 pcs pack that arrived a month ago. I wanted to try one bottle on a customers car. As soon as i took out the bottle out of the package i noticed that the consistency of the fluid is very thin. I opened it up and the smell was pretty different in comparison to the well known " good " Mr. Fix. Ok to the practical part : After a long polishing and preparing process i applied the product on to the hood. Basically i did everything in the same manner like before. Now comes the horrific truth, after waiting 5 minutes i tried to wipe off the product, which was practically impossible ! After searching and trying to find a solution, i gave up, and i polished away all that residues that this copy/counterfeit or whatever you want it to call produced. The surface was so sticky and full of residues that it made it impossible to wipe it clean. Another thing i noticed is that the sponge and the cloth that was delivered in the package, especially the cloth did not became stiff after 12 hours like it was the case with all the legit Mr. Fix versions. And all that talk about solids and other ingredients in this case is unneeded. This is just a piece of shit which was copied in order to take money from the buyer. There is no hardness in this version, this is some sticky mess mixed with some chemicals. I had my own prediction that the quality and the legitimate production will break in. But i did not expected that so fast this product is practically even for hobby consumers useless. It`s just a waste of time and money. The most valuable point on this conversation is that it is not affordable to buy such cheap stuff that has no quality control and a legit company profile. It was a nice test, which just confirmed, it is possible to produce cheap products that have excellent characteristics, but it is impossible to have a reliable control on quality and counterfeit measures in China. Literally, it is the end of this product for my own needs, i will just rely on branded and quality products in the future, since every corner in China started to pack this small bottles labeled as 9H ceramics.

[@PedroFTeixeira]

The 3£ seems to be great for headlights and tail lights.

[@amizanamzah286]

How long to wait for wipe off after applying on the headlights?

[@COHE]

Doing public service here! Very informative as always Jon.

[@MidniteClimax]

I've been playing with mr. fix. So far I like it. I just did my entire 98 TDI in it, so far so good. I don't think I'd put it on my Raptor, but for random stuff you don't care as much about it works great. Gonna put it on my Jet ski soon I think

[@su09khan]

Thanks..its really informative for me ... thanks again..sir i need your help for windshield light glare protection is there any..!! For night driving.

[@arrenlambert8044]

I bought nano bond 9h, two bottle from two sellers. One bottle is very clear and thin, I tested this on my winter wheels and it worked perfect. The other is milky and viscous like a trim dressing and I suspect that what is in there is not ceramic, I may even send this up to you to have a look at if that's ok with you?

[@maxbrad60]

I bought the cheapest Mr Fix 9H I could find on ebay at less than au$6 I'm still very pleased with the results on my black car 4 months later. Still beading and very glossy with no streaks. I followed included instructions and applied it with water and buffed off within the recommended time for the weather.

[@maxbrad60]

18 months now and it's still shining and beading.

[@mohammedkahaf2428]

@@maxbrad60 that’s crazy, did you need to polish your car first?

[@GE-Kang]

Any link mate ?

[@davep4703]

Hi great vidios on car detailing I learn a lot, may I ask about bird lime protection. I have to leave my cherished black M5 outside and bird droppings are the real issue for me. Now since about 2017 there has been a major change in automotive paints with improvements to formulations that are less prone to bird poo attack. However, I would very much like to understand what would you recomend as the best protection system, maybe a vid demonstration would be well received, especially by UK car owners.

[@mattvaughan180]

You ever tested the harly wax? My neighbour bought the 9h mr Fix for his car looks ok on it to be honest

[@jlmagana]

Hi John... I have a question. I have a couple of bottles of that clear 9h BLUE CERAMIC COATING you talked about and my question is... On B PILLARS, once you FINALLY have gotten rid of swirls and imperfections, can you use this clear coat over them to PROTECT THEM a little more against future damage? THANK YOU SIR... I'm a HUGE FAN...

[@simoncrane9978]

Hello mr forensic detailer 🤓 I also bought a few cheap ones and compared with the cquartz 3.0 I use regularly. I found the veteran too didn't bond to the panel however it did leave a residue behind which created a solid barrier on the paint. A year ago and the mrs car still has a lovely repellent square 😂😂 I applied mr fix to my.grandads car and It bonds really well, felt like it bonded quicker than cquartz and went off much quicker which almost caught me out. For me the most user friendly coating that works is the cquartz and a 40 quid it's very good value for money. Love your channel love your attention to detailing and reviewing products. Sc valeting Dorset

[@cliffli1121]

guess what? I use these products in my bathroom. I got these coating products for a very cheap price (about $2), but I am worried about it would damage my car. So, I decide to apply it to the bathroom glasses. For now, it works good and less cleaning jobs for me.

[@dannyeff21]

Haa I bought it for similar job lol

[@DevineDigital]

OMG, I need to put this on my all glass shower, thanks for the idea. Worth giving a shot to see if it lasts.

[@kandinovich]

Somse bener dah ni org

[@tiangian6765]

good idea!!

[@Ianw236]

Thanks for this. Ordered some originally for alloys but will use on the shower screen probably

[@arkansasmountainman]

Been thinking on doing this. Just got a new car and I want good protection. From what I've seen it isn't that hard but the counterfeit products is hard to distinguish. I've seen counterfeit products that are packaged very similar to the real deal. I worry about a counterfeit product in a very similar package and a mid-range price or even full price. Not ever seeing or smelling some that I am sure is real, I would never know if what I got was real or counterfeit. I don't want to go through the expense and trouble to do it right only to have it fail or mess up my car. I think I'll wash and wax or polish it and try one of the spray on coating. I'd rather have to maintain it than to mess it up. Can you use product like Rain-x on the paint during the rinse? (Watered down) My other vehicles are older and weren't taken care of before me. (Clear coat pealing and scratches) I was more concerned with running and driving of it than the looks. Can you suggest what to do? I can't afford to have it professionally done, and worry about them using the good stuff too. They can guarantee it for 2 years if they plan on closing in a year.

[@roberta4760]

whats the best coating to buy for around 50 Pound or less, i can get ? and how long will it last ? thanks

[@mohamedbendahib2032]

thanks for this great informative video. Just a little question please. As u know, many car detailers all over the world give customers warranty after getting their cars ceramic coated, I just need to learn some secrets/tips about that.

[@jonathanclarkewater]

Hi jon, off the subject a bit but your blue m135 had the m performance back box. Now you have the red m140 did you order with the stock back box with it or specify the m performance version. Interested to hear your thoughts on whether the sporty soundtrack is worth the extra £1000 plus a bit of added motorway drone please.

[@ForensicDetailing]

hey there, I really liked the sound of the m perf zort on the 135. I guess for what it is though its a bit on the expensive side. like others have said to me for the money I thin you can get a lot more. Im getting the m140 motech'd on saturday so looking forward to that with the remus zorst. In terms of drone from the m perf on the m135 no it wasnt drony at all.. in fact the 135 and 140 as so quite in side its really hard to heat the zort like you can in other cars. but yer I think I would go aftermarket but will let you know when Ive experiences the remus mate

[@jonathanclarkewater]

Thanks very much for taking the time to reply. Looking forward to your future content. Great so far!

[@stevensparks19]

Entry level consumer coatings like Cquartz UK are already incredibly reasonably priced. You can get a kit on autogeek with includes 30ml, the foam block, 4 suede applicators, and a small bottle of reload (which you can cut 1:1 if you really want) all for 60 (44 gbp) bucks, and you can almost always catch a sale there for 10-20% off and sometimes free shipping. That would bring the total cost of that kit to like.. 50 bucks (37 gbp?) That's hardly unreasonable, especially given how widely used and praised CQUK is. You could maybe argue you'd have to get Carpro Eraser as well, but that's only 15-20 (11-15gbp) bucks depending on how much you get. Just seems to make more sense to stick to a more reputable coating like CQUK Really enjoyed the video though, keep up the good work.

[@BrianW1612]

Brilliant video and not a truer word said on these cheap ceramics. All it takes it one bad bottle to end up on you're pride and joy and you have nobody to turn to for help and compensation. Not worth the risk for me so completely in agreement with you jon.

[@toddy9141]

What cheap n cheerful ceramic coating would you advice in restored headlights after sanding/polishing? Obviously I’m not going to spend £50+ just for the lights in my daily A3 2007 lol Cheers dude

[@alankelly1542]

Wonderful review by a guy who really knows what he’s talking about. X

[@fwh79FOXR6]

Excellent content as usual. I don't know about these ceramic coatings. If I can't use a detail spray to clean it... doesn't look to appealing to me.

[@hliter117]

Iam quite happy because 9hmrfix coating. I have polished my 206 and one week later i washed it and put this ceramic coating on it. This is my first ceramic but it looks nicer than simply polishing. So iam as twice happy as result is positive.

[@tangoturbotango2621]

Hi, this is a very good review for going into the ceramic coating for a beginner like myself, because I didn't know whats these products are like so I went cheap, I know I do understand you get what you pay for. So I got these from ebay and I wasnt going to try on my better car first ,so I try it on my daughter's cheaper car, I know If I ruin her car, I will get her another. Yes Im smart. Here we go , when first time put it on, its true after apply on and waite few minutes then rub off and not much resistance, then I try leave it a bit longer like 20m -25m, then it was harder to rub off in fact it was quite a job to rub off, anyway I even left some panel didnt even rub off, so the next day, they all harden, the 3 different methods i try, few minutes, 20m and 24h, I must tell you they all look the same, I think it work it work on a budget. I m not saying you should go buy this cheap product rather than the dearer one, I am sure the branded one will give you more protection and support, but it is fun to see what you actually get for the £3 ish, at the end of the day you get what you paying for and the user is at your own risk. What I learn from that was how to and try to put on the " ceramic coating " to gain my experience. I also will try to do the wheels as well. not bad for a £3 if you looking this way. Thanks

[@clevo351]

John would these products be good to seal polycarbonate or plastic headlights after restoring????

[@ForensicDetailing]

no mate. The UV filtering comes from the main silazane resins (so Im told). So the lower (suspected) % of resin in the product and subsequent inferred lower durability makes them less suitable for that. I guess depends how you look at it. Like its cheap and it will give more protection than a paste wax on the headlight. But if your have sanded and buffs a headlight to perfection. I would get a rattle can clearcoat and put that down. Or at the very least a decent grade ceramic coating. I perhaps would argue though I would not go and by a 50 quid coating, just to crack open to seal a headlight with. Thats ridiculously expensive. You would save some resin back maybe, like the dregs of a coating just to cover the headlight for free kind of thing. Good little half way house is always have some moonlight from TAC kicking around because it seems to stay functional in the bottle for years. And its cheap. so maybe if you dont want rattle can clear and you dont want to buy a new coating for it. Have moonlight kicking around. Its a wicked product to have anyway.

[@UnravelledMoney]

Used this on my alloys mr fix 9h, put 2 coats and still hydrophobic and good protection!

[@KWW0321]

Not sure if it's a north america thing but the mr fix here comes with instructions indicating water aided installation. I messed around with it on a test panel and it worked ok but after leaving the panel outside for a few months it started to wear off leaving behind a slightly hazy layer.

[@Florishh]

good video, i dont really like coatings anyway even tho i have a car that has very soft single stage red paint i still prefer a hard wax, i dont like the fact that there's not really any point in topping these coatings with a wax, but i have tried something new lately its like a spray sealant that you apply on a wet car ideally after you've polished it and then wash it to get the polish off, the product is called Carpro Hydro02, it says it gives about 3 to 4 months protection but what i like is that it even works on wheels, plastics and fabrics such as in the wheelarches and convertable roofs plus the fact that you're basically done after you've applied it and dryed the car., i did choose to top it off with CG butterwet wax but i dont think that's necessary but really if you haven't tried it might be something worth checking out. thanks for making all these videos keep up the good work!!

[@Jahmed5635]

Congratulations on 60k subs mate!

[@ForensicDetailing]

thank you jubair, yer thats great isnt it.. slowly creeping up. 100k is my like target that will be awesome.

[@EazyDuz18]

Also to widen your review potential you could buy some old faded Ford KA trim panels (greyer the better) to test 'back to black' type products or indeed the ceramic coatings

[@ForensicDetailing]

the giant ford KA bumper :) my little test bonnet is actually from a KA i think. might be a good thing to have.

[@jmjgfun]

Hello. Do you know any brand of 1" and 2" backing plates for da machines 21 mm? Thanks

[@ForensicDetailing]

doesnt exist jorge as far as I know. it just wouldnt work on that size machine.

[@Antonis_Skondras]

can I use it on color sticker film?

[@cujoedaman]

I've been seeing vids of people using ceramics on the trim to not only seal it, but to actually give it a bit of restoration and I was wondering if using a cheap one would be ok. This pretty much tells me yes. My truck is 20 years old and certainly isn't in tip top shape, but I still like to try to take care of it as best I can. This is also helpful on what to look for in other coatings as well, maybe I'll look into one for my dad's new truck.

[@ForensicDetailing]

yes I think this might be a good use for it.

[@dennisthemenance5433]

Which Product had the Best Gloss Retention and Repelancy ( water) ?

[@LiQuid218]

Used it on trim Jhon... Works great but like you say: not every bottle is the same! It's making trim hydrofobic but haven't test it for long now. It's been on there for 2 months now.

[@PeteyMcSavage]

Renzo telli I’m going to use solution finish first let it sit for a week then put the coating over trim. Any tips for application

[@dnbadamwalker]

I got it for the wheel arc trim etc I tested it on the black plastic on my da and it’s give it a nice new look too it but haven’t tested the water repellent etc but used it on my red tool box and like u say it takes a bit of time to set and you really are just guessing

[@nikistefanovv]

Anyone tested it on a headlights?

[@MatysPL200]

wich one is the best to buy and where

[@rjarzola123]

I just bought the mr. Fix ceramic coating on Amazon for 8 bucks but my question is the instructions say that I have to wet the panel and the applicator then put the coating on it to activate it I'm just kind of confused I never use a coating where you have to activate it with water or any sorts is this true for the mr. Fix coating

[@ForensicDetailing]

Congratulations Ruben you are one of the lucky few that got the real product by the sound of it.. although I am not sure if thats good or bad. but at least you have instructions. in terms of activating a coating.. well the coatings are moisture cure systems.. so they use the hydrogen and oxygen in moister or water to cure or change state to the hard resin. So some of the coatings use water during the application process to trigger the cure quicker... So I would follow the instructions.. theres a video kicking around of some guys applying this coating to a car in turbo rapid style using water.. thats the best advice I can give. follow the instructions to the letter. in terms of support you could try and contact Mr fix for any specific questions around application.. in the words of marco from tripoli... good luck.

[@metronomexxx]

Great video thanks!

[@therealchayd]

I applied some Mr Fix 9H last weekend, I think the instructions implied that after the curing time you're supposed to go over it with a damp cloth to level it, so the water thing does sound plausible. Word of warning, it seems to take the gloss out of cellulose (i.e. spraycan) paints.

[@MustangBoss1973]

What you have is fake Mr fix, the real box has a scratch off code on the box as authentication measure. Maybe get some and retry the test. Great video

[@supervitz7178]

Thanks for putting this out. I'd really be curious to know your opinion on fk1000p?

[@ForensicDetailing]

good stallwart sealant. very usefull stuff. good for alloys zorts (things that will get hot) decent as a paintwork sealant.. bit of scholl I guess (anything solvent based kind of is nowadays) but decent stuff

[@TexasSpeedManiac]

How about trying the cheap ones together. Load your pad with the 6 dollar coating, spread it out then, load the middle of your pad with 3 dollar coating spread it over the same area, let it flash, buff it out and see how the does it. Just an idea, cause I’ve done the similar applying methods with the professional grade of coating and the results were outstanding. See how that works out.

[@Lagoyaz]

Thanks for taking the time making this review! I just seen a diffrent review of 6 month's later of the mr fix (2nd coating) on one of my detailling groups and he still has great hydrofobic property's. I'm starting to doubt if he didn't use any extra protective layers or this was a fake? Alltho I don't see the point in faking a allready cheap product.

[@ForensicDetailing]

the veteren is still going strong water wise. the mr fix I had didnt have much in the way of repellency in comparison. scrolling through ebay theres so many different types of mr fix (and veteran). I dont know what the score is with it and the huge price range varience and different appearences of it. If the original mr fix is being knocked off why are they knocking this product off only?

[@jaynjuguna]

The Mr fix in this video is a knock-off...apparently the genuine one is branded '9H Mr Fix' rather than 'Mr fix 9h.'

[@jdisdetermined]

I use the cheap ceramic coatings for things like engine bays, mud flaps, wheel wells, and semi-hidden plastic trim, etc. Scrub the area with APC, IPA/prep wipe, and lay it on with a foam pad or even a foam paint brush for corners, edges, and/or hard to reach areas. Super cheap, restores color and depth and lasts exponentially longer than most trim restore products. I see it still looking great on vehicles a year later and still going. I'm testing it on glass now, at just over 3 months and still holding. Super hard water in my area so in general I could care less about beading on any surface, I want the sheeting characteristics of true silica coatings pushing that water off. Water beading, while it does look sexy, is not the best indicator of good surface protection. Haven't experimented with it on wheels, but wouldn't be afraid of it. I don't use it on paint or high end vehicles. Interesting stuff though, gotta love having all these options. Thanks for taking the time. 👍✌

[@NamHoang2110]

Is it perhaps worth mentioning that the Premium products come with better accessories? I.e applicator sponges, genuine suede cloths in matching sizes, and, most imortantly, MINI Sio2 top-up spray bottles? (CQuartz UK 3.0) Excellent video again, good Sir. IMHO Forensic Detailing Channel is the No. 1 source of unbiased, fair and real-world information on all aspects of the automotive detailing industry. Thank you for all the time, effort and exoertise you've given to our community, and for not being afraid to pass your secrets on to the next generation of OCD riddled misfits :p

[@didyouaye8704]

Will a ceramic coating help me stop getting swirling and holograms ? Iv a black car an no matter how gentle I am doing pre wash and fancy fibre wash mits it ends up swirled and hologramed

[@ForensicDetailing]

It can help with this clarke yes. but perhaps you would be better off going with a very high solid pro grade coating.

[@RB54DaBears]

Thanks a million Jon! Sio2 topper challenge please!! Hydrosilex recharge, Reload, Cure, etc...

[@flippy9133]

i used mine on the toilet and washbasin and kitchen sink, great stuff :D makes cleaning much faster

[@gtbigdog3507]

Sawier so did I. I also used it on my bbq

[@kokoloko12398]

Thanks for the feedback Jon! Maybe you don't have a "real" version of the 9H Mr.Fix because finally I tested it on a black surface and the area became darker. Also the hydrophobic behavior was almost as good as the Sonax BSD (to give you an idea of comparison).

[@berczigabor]

kokoloko12398 Note that this is a 6 months update video, not one made right after application. So, maybe your application will also develop the same symptoms in half a year time. That said the real problem is, that indeed you can just never know what you get, because there are no reputable sources for these coatings. So, even if yours proves to be better, who knows where and what you can get next time under the name Mr Fix 9H?

[@ForensicDetailing]

Im almost sure its a knock of version of it. It was kind of "reasonably" repellent for the first week. nothing great. The veteren was very repellent even after 6 months.

[@ryanwakefield7201]

I’ve bought several bottles from several sources... same results and can still scratch paint. You get what you pay for hands down.

[@berczigabor]

On Site Auto Detailing Your paint will scratch even with the most expensive ceramic coating on. That feature of the coatings is way overblown by marketing people.

[@ryanwakefield7201]

Sub to my channel! It will soon be showcasing the results on an 03 Suburban hood. That claim there, shows your experience. Not trying to be rude, just facts are facts and I have tested most coatings to find this out. You can remain thinking that as much as you want but that's on you, not me. I recently did a test on a 06 HHR hood with this stuff verse Igl's EcoCoat Quartz+. With light attempts at marring both with improper towels such as a terry cloth and surgical towels where it would have scratched waxed paint.... This knock off dollar store stuff still gets marred up. Whereas the EcoCoat Quartz+ did not. The parent company to my "On Site Auto Detailing" applies Modesta, Kenzo and System X that only caters to private auto collections, the wax and supplies we use on those cars are swissvax. I am well versed, researched and experienced with what a coating will or will not do! Posting things like that is misleading people who wouldn't otherwise know any better. This is equivalent to suggesting that ArmorAll is a great product and that pro's use it, we both can agree that would be just plain silly.

[@dennisthemenance5433]

I only put i on my Lower Panels of my Car for Winter Protection up here In Wisconsin and going thru 4 -6 Car Washes in Summer an 8 a month in winter- belong to a CW Membership for $30 mo

[@tomsommer54]

Do you use a damp applicator cloth to apply the coating? Great video by the way.

[@camver100]

I would be interested in knowing if that opaqueness is from the coating (on its way out ) or the clear coat is damaged. Should see what a compounding does to it !

[@ForensicDetailing]

my guess is its the coating itself, but if its something the coating has done to the clearcoat then polishing may also rectify it. I will need to scrub it off to free up the panel so ill try and find out.

[@tdawg719]

I’ve heard different things about applying the MRfix. I’ve heard you apply it to a misted wet panel. Perhaps it is ghosting because you applied it to a dry a dry panel. Did your mr fix not come with instructions? Mine did but they were poorly translated, and I lost them

[@ForensicDetailing]

Im not even sure what it is :) it came in a wierd box... I call it fake Mr fix. another part of the appeal to the blue bottle ceramics.

[@theconsciousone9017]

This works great my cooper 2012 fiat 500 popped i got so many compliments on it i drove to dealer ship my car had more shine than the brand new 2018 i work for steel plant a very dirty environment i thought when got this is water lol once i clay bared wax then i applied buff with two types of buffing pads this works great wirks well with maguires wax wax

[@groundcontrol6876]

Hey Jon would you do a video on Soft99 Fusso Coat? I love the darn sealant because it lasts long and is the most hydrophobic thing I’ve come across. The problem is, I get some haziness on the clear after I buff it off. It goes away after a few months so I wonder if it’s just a characteristic of the wax. As you have a black test panel, you could definitely demonstrate how it goes on and off and maybe help a lot of us who are having issues with it.

[@ChrisLane87]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqHXfHuMltmYkKM

[@groundcontrol6876]

That's the video that got me to buy it in the first place lol. He doesn't mention this issue though, so maybe he hasn't noticed it (hard to spot on that grey paint). I'd just like some feedback to whether or not this hazing can be avoided in any way or if it's just something I have to accept because of the chemistry of the wax. Thanks in advance!

[@saulmunoz3731]

Andres Rivera where You live? It should Last more like 6 months

[@ChrisLane87]

Andres Rivera anytime I have used on dark cars I have always had to wash again afterwards due to the residue left behind. No matter how I have applied it

[@groundcontrol6876]

I live in Puerto Rico. I get more than a few months, just saying the hazing effect fades as the months pass. Thanks for the feedback guys!

[@Crytek1337]

Can i use this on my rims?

[@tobiashoyby1]

Great videos regarding the cheap coatings. But could you make a review on the Koch Chemie 1K nano coating anytime? Would be very helpful.

[@ForensicDetailing]

hey todias will do mate yes gonna lump it into one big sealant video

[@gotrixiego1446]

I know I'm a bit late to the dance here. Do you think the generic Veteran/Mr. Fix might be okay to coat headlights after restoration? Thanks.

[@ForensicDetailing]

I wouldnt no. again the UV protection comes from the component that I believe is lacking in these products. about the only thing they maybe cool for imo is trim...

[@gotrixiego1446]

Thank you, Jon. I will continue to use 2k clear.

[@brutalbasspro]

I just got new stainless exhaust, would a cheap mr fix type ceramic coating work on it?

[@ForensicDetailing]

I would not recomend it Marcus. Just get a pot of FK1000p it works out cheaper than mr fix and one pot will last you a life time.

[@user-jr1cs6ob3m]

Any new garden equipment like under the lawnmower, or the snowblower chute. A new shovel. I use the coating on that. Clean up is a brezze.

[@richardnyambuya7415]

Hi, have you got any idea of how to remove ceramic coating from the car? I used Mr.fix but I let is dry on one side of the vehicle and now I have swirls

[@ForensicDetailing]

liquid abrasives for most consumer ceramic coatings. some of the pro grade ones you need to wet sand off. Mr should come off with a medium compound richard.

[@richardnyambuya7415]

Forensic Detailing Channel thanks for the quick reply. Have you got any good suggestions of which medium compound?

[@ForensicDetailing]

scholl s20 black, or S17. its terms of compopunds having S30 gold, s20, and s40 is a nice trio. sometimes with ceramics a heavier compound is needed sometimes a light polish will get them off its hard to say. s20 will be a good starting point though m8

[@richardnyambuya7415]

Forensic Detailing Channel thank you your support. Will update what happens

[@vdseee]

Man I did my M135i with a blue bottle like this on AliExpress I could see on the hood it lasted for more than one year in France. I’ve redone an application before selling it and the buyer was pleased. I might not agree with you on this.

[@silicaskynet3401]

link?

[@dennisthemenance5433]

Mine is from Wal Mart for $20 and has a 90 day guarantee or can return it to WM.. I bead tested it at the 12th wk ( 84 days) and was still Beading.. But i also Use TurtleWax Spray wax after every 4-5 car washes, and don;t wipe it off and spary my Windshield as well. "CIRAMIC COATING IS CLEAR COATING LIQUID IN A BOTTLE

[@MrAvant123]

My view is these bottles are just because one may cost more and be in a box doesnt mean they are different. None of them are big brand names its just whether the seller can persuade you to pay more for a nice presentation box.

[@billm7166]

My mr fix actually came in a cardboard box and has a certified product sticker with anti fake code. I use mine on my knife blades for great shine and no fingerprints

[@crashdrumschool1]

Used this product and have to say the final finish seems to be really hazy, not as glossy as you’d hope.

[@j.v.e5821]

Mr fix works perfect i’ve used it at 4 cars and cant really tell you no downsides. And its easy to remove with a good polish. Used it at 1 black, 1 dark blue, 1 dark grey and 1 silver car

[@j.v.e5821]

And i bought it for €4,- :D

[@spartanpolish]

Saludos desde colombia / que tal ese sellador si lo recomendarías si dura 1 año o mucho menos , te agradezco si puedes responder

[@shinecardetailing5993]

poes al perecer si dura hasta casi un año, he leido varios comentarios y al parecer si es bueno , y no solo en este canal , pero yo mande a pedri uno hace pocos dias ahora solo espero que venga y lo provare y lo estare subiedo a mi canal kzbin.info/door/QO0Jwpvx8WweeN1BPrWUHg?view_as=subscriber kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6nGkJh-aKZ6kNU

[@clevo351]

Great video and info! Would realy love if you could do a video on Opticoat ceramic coating i hear its a Pro Ceramic Coating, is this true im in Australia.

[@Jonnym96]

Great vid 👍🏻

[@maxburg4817]

Great warning video Jon - you pay your money and take your choice. That stuff wouldn’t make it 100 metres near my car. Are you sure this isn’t the same chemical found in Salisbury 😊😩🤭

[@alanashburner8907]

😂 Novichok Ceramic Coating 😂 How about: COVID-19 Ceramic Coating? So the Communist World is distributing killer viruses into the West via detailing ceramic coatings. You may be on to something here 🤔🤢

[@metalpolishshop]

For what I can find on the Mr. Fix coating is that it has the same specs as Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light and the msds (sds) looked the same. Now did Mr. Fix "borrow" the sds and specs? Not sure but I do know the Gtechniq does not cause the ghosting on black paint.

[@berczigabor]

What specs are you referring to exactly? Silica content and purity? Or what?

[@metalpolishshop]

I am referring to how the product is advertised- the PH range of 2-12, the hardness of 9H, the 3-5 yr durability. Basically what the general public may look at as a way to decide on which to purchase. I just tried to find the SDS on MR. Fix and am having issues locating one, I did compare the two last year and did notice similarities. Like i say Gtechniq does not cause that ghosting that Jon found on black. If i was to use this product i may try it on barrels of wheels but i think i will still pay more for the brand i trust and have used with great success.

[@Pierriewargen]

The middle part looks exactly like the uncoated parts that were under the masking tape = no coating still on surface?

[@berczigabor]

Actually, to me, it looks even lighter than those - or more like an added haze or layer of gray. If I'd have to guess, I'd say it's because somehow the coating reacted with the clear coat, and damaged (oxidized) it. At least that's how paint that's even though has been washed regularly, but have not been polished in years looks like, after you've cleaned the surface perfectly, but before you polish or compound off the top few microns of clear coat (that's probably partially disintegrated at that point).

[@ForensicDetailing]

the tape dried out badly so when I peeled if off theres a thick layer of glue there and the glue is kind of white. its not the same thing though.

[@marionhancock-kooijman475]

You have to put a moist cloth over the pad before applying

[@stephentaylor8593]

Many thanks, got £3 bottle, and not going to use it on my black merc, no way..BIG thanks.

[@dennisthemenance5433]

I was able to get CC for only $22( US) vs $45 US and Came with Good Instructions and Told me to Use Safety Glasses( get my own) and Use my Own Good Sponge. And 6 mos later? Still Like New ! So far So good on my Front End I put it on.. I also Used Clay Bar first.

[@richardpetrone7969]

Do you have a guide on washing after a ceramic coating.?

[@ForensicDetailing]

hey richard no, but its something we can do.

[@theTHiiiNG]

Needs more Reg. Just kidding, another superb, informative video Jon! Bottom line - stay away from this crap and just buy from a reputable brand.

[@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod]

If put on properly it works great! I’ve done 2 cars with it and it looks super glossy...😎

[@ivanchukarski3283]

whats the proper procedure?

[@palindrome414]

This is so weird but I bought Mr Fix 9h after your last review to throw on a beater vehicle and I got the streaks that you had with the veteran one. I tried applying it many different ways and I found the best way is to put it on dry and immediately wipe. This is wasteful obviously so I had to lay down several coats. I would never recommend using on a nicer car.

[@dennisthemenance5433]

What should I use Just Before Going to Go and Trade In my Car at a Dealer, who is always Screwing Me! Get Mr Fix? It will last 1 Month? Let me know Please

[@samhunt8240]

There has to be some budget ceramics that are half decent surely? It's strange there is such a price difference between the cheap and premium ones, nothing really in the £20-£40 range. Thank you for your helpful videos as well.

[@minuteman698]

Thanks, great stuff as always! What do you think about the household usage of these cheap coats? Like... coating the shower cabin, mirrors, etc? I think these would make cleaning them easier? You know, happy wife, happy life!

[@nickvandersanden4133]

haha nice 1

[@berczigabor]

You don't want to put a ceramic coating on a mirror, because by making it super hydrophobic, it will be also more prone to fogging up. You usually want the opposite of that, and you can achieve that by making the surface hydrophilic (which is the opposite of hydrophobicity). It might work on shower cabin, though, if it's the "milky" type already. However, glass is very easy to clean anyway, so I can't really see any benefit in coating that with a ceramic.

[@nickvandersanden4133]

if it makes the wife happy all that does not matter ;)

[@PeteyMcSavage]

I did the veteran in the shower on tile help cut down on soap scum and hard water staining i the topped it with c2v3 and then two months later put duragloss 105 ontop and that killed it I should have left it alone it was beading like crazy John send me some HP Sauce and IRN BRU.

[@saleemhoosen2236]

I coated my phone

[@Dutch79]

Would be nice if those were performing great, but you get what you pay for.. I'll stick to Gyeon for a while.

[@hansberges3376]

How should you buff a ceramic coating off, I have heard of two different methods, one using a dry microfiber cloth and the other method using a damp microfiber cloth, which is the best way?

[@ForensicDetailing]

as advised hans by the specific coating manufacture for what your using.. most are dry..

[@hedef106tarim7]

can this product be used

[@tobyhigginbotham2564]

Have to tried the QP ON products? Looks like they may be the real deal.

[@ForensicDetailing]

yep toby not tried yet sorry no will look to explore more ceramic products over the next year for sure.

[@sneakyfoz3692]

Agree about the trim have good success with these cheapos on a number of older cars but only using on grey faded plastic trim, specifically low down on the car. They do a good job revitalising the faded trim and durability has been ok 6 months in. I wouldn’t ever use cheap ceramic on paintwork but i agree I see a good use case scenario for old faded trim.

[@williamarden5441]

Did the ant have good armor after haha. For real! Bet he is the best knight the colony has now haha

[@mysterianderson]

The cheap 3-4 quid one reminds me of the T-Cut 365 Colour Seal. It goes on weird and is very hydrophobic.

[@christiank3442]

There is a new Mr. Fix in a black Bottle for around 7-10 quid. Please try this too

[@zir786]

whats the name of the good ceramic coating?

[@boilerhousegarage]

Gtechniq Ceramic plus I think--at least, it's a really good premium one regardless.

[@AndreenMotorsports]

Keep in mind that Im looking at my tablet screen, but from the look of the color of the streaks from the first coating and it's repellant behavior, it looks to me as if its petroleum based. If you wiped diesel on a panel, you would have pretty much the same result.

[@ForensicDetailing]

when you say petroleum based. pretty much most of the coatings use di-n-butly ether as the base solvent for the inorganic and the organic silazanes. when they blend other resins in they need to use different solvents to keep those resins thin and in those instances they can use a small amount of naptha (which is petroleum based). when you have naptha in there I think thats what causes the rainbow flash. The premium product I think has more naptha in it that the other 2 based on seeing a very visable rainbow flash with it. I dont think the opaquing in the middle section is anything to do with naptha.. the small amount of naptha in the product will flash away. I think its to do with the silazane. could be wrong. who knows.

[@arisputra8886]

Good ceramic coating with carpro spray sealant 👍🏻

[@Audittr2108]

I would never risk any unknown product on my cars. All that prep for a ceramic coating then put a £5 bottle of mystery potion is madness. If money’s that much of an option, stick some BSD on every few weeks. You can get that for around £7.

[@Audittr2108]

BSD : Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer. A favourite of this channel.

[@ryanwakefield7201]

They don’t last and I can still scratch paint with it applied!

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Imagine if those cheap coatings are the same as those with a details brands

[@KWW0321]

You can talk with the manufacturer of these coatings via Alibaba. They come out of the same factory in China. They do recommend water for the first product you were talking about to prevent that streaking.

[@ForensicDetailing]

thanks USMC. possible with the real mr fix you could yer, the real mr fix I think contains instructions. but half the time you wont know if your getting the real mr fix or fake mr fix. The streaky one was actually veteren, your right you can reduce the streaky thing with water. Amazing though isnt it. that this company could sell millions of this cheap crap and not put any user instructions on how to install with the product to get decent results. that says it all. if I had to guess they are just "giving" away product which is low concentration and perhaps closer to its expiry. better give it away than have to dispose of it. liquid inorganic silazane typically has a barrel storage life of 1 year only. that would be my guess.

[@Jizetix]

Can Mr Fix be used for wheels ? :) thanks !

[@ForensicDetailing]

yesh m8

[@markovucilovski9876]

Try buying those 2 cheap ones, mix them in one bottle. Test it. If it doesn't work, not money lost. If it does work - rebrand it as your own and sell for like 40 quid. Nice.