Klay has the purest form in the NBA in my opinion. It’s what you said the “blueprint form” while Curry has one of the most streamline forms, in the sense that it looks so free flowing.
@chrisakers47486 жыл бұрын
PhantomX980 spot on
@thosys463276 жыл бұрын
Lmao what about Kyler Korver?
@FirstPlace976 жыл бұрын
what about it is so pure
@LMChavez9806 жыл бұрын
FP it’s what I visualise if you talk about a jumpshot. It shows all fundamentals of a jumpshot perfectly.
@chr15tian226 жыл бұрын
I think Drazen had the best jumpshot in nba history, the second one for me it’s Klay, their jumpshots are very similar
@doy35056 жыл бұрын
Curry’s jumpshot is everything a coach doesn’t want you to do, however he’s literally the best shooter in the league.
@bsp56896 жыл бұрын
PoLLon wae history of the league
@yngluhmike27476 жыл бұрын
I know exactly what u talking bout he's not supposed to bring the ball down to his waste and relse
@earlbueno33796 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@mega1chiken6dancr96 жыл бұрын
That's wrong as fuck, and I'd advise you to stop spreading false information. Does he follow through? Check. Does he have a small hop, using power in his legs? Check. Does his guide hand avoid interferance with the ball? Check. Does he bring his shot up into a straight line? Check. Is he consistent? Check. Short-term memory? Check. Stop trying to make coaches look bad. They know the game more than you.
@kamrinmurphy60526 жыл бұрын
@@mega1chiken6dancr9 He literally has a thumb flick but ok
@josiahhenry3676 жыл бұрын
Steph has the best 1 motion shot EVER and is the greatest shooter ever but Klay Thompson has the best form in the NBA right now
@americanfresh176 жыл бұрын
Him & Devin Booker both
@yaahman746 жыл бұрын
Melo
@red_panda_boots6 жыл бұрын
Lmao your funny
@kalerandall70676 жыл бұрын
Larry bird?
@dexter999996 жыл бұрын
Jr Smith best form
@writingwithsounds6 жыл бұрын
Tbh Klay has the most mechanically sound form of all time.
@rambosexy20096 жыл бұрын
HardenTooSaucy6 Textbook form.
@theartofcompetition59656 жыл бұрын
hoopla (obviously ) or redick imo
@Getloose3606 жыл бұрын
The art of competition Very true on JJ. If he was 3 inches taller it would pay huge dividends. Also have to mention Ray Allen as well.
@elgato496 жыл бұрын
Ray Allen
@Arkane1176 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan is not known to be a "shooter", but his shooting mechanics are almost perfect. (Same with Kobe because he is basically a copy of Jordan)
@mystique04176 жыл бұрын
Nice to know someone else obsesses over shooting mechanics.
@classyassmothafucka88906 жыл бұрын
Some of these differences have reasons. For one, Klay is taller than Steph. This means that since they both have 1 motion shots starting just in front of the pelvis, Klay's stroke has a longer distance from the start to the release. What you have to realize about shooting is that the ball is not accelerating only at the release. From the moment you raise the ball above your knees, the ball is picking up speed, and Klay's extra couple inches means 3 things. 1- there's more time on the stroke for the guide hand to interfere with the ball's trajectory. 2. The ball has a little longer to pick up speed (which converts to either arc or distance). 3. The release point is farther from his elbow and shoulders (because he has longer arms) meaning that the final inches of his stroke are weaker, but faster (similar to a transmission in a higher gear, the radius of the gear raises speed, but reduces torque). Put these three things together and we know that "optimal" for Klay means 3 things. 1. Interfering with the stroke with a thumb adds un-needed power and entropy to a longer stroke... so a thumb flick doesn't benefit him like it would a Kyrie or a Steph. 2. Klay's stroke gives the ball a longer exposure to acceleration, so the diminished torque from a slow long-armed shot and the diminished power from only shooting with one arm are less costly for him, so one armed shooting with a guide hand is enough power for him. 3. The straight up and down elbow extends the radius of his stroke giving him less torque but more reach... so straight up and down has more upside to offer him than someone like Steph. Aside from all this, Steph is much more often than Klay shooting inches away from screens, getting double-teamed on the run, etc... whereas Klay gets most of his shots from team motion and are catch-and-shoot. This means that a thumb for Steph not only gets the shot up faster and actively pushes the ball into place instead of guiding it, but he's also able to absorb more sideways error with his wider base and his shooting form is ALSO able to absorb more sideways error caused by shooting on the move... He also picks up to shoot often off the dribble... so he incorporates the movement of the dribble into his shot and converts it into ever-so-slightly more power... and of course the dribble can come from either direction, so that's just another way in which a wide base, a less upright stroke, and a thumb-flick are more necessary for him. Both of these shots are well optimized to many factors including what is needed for each player in their role to get a shot off, the nature of the shots they get, the release point of their shots, and how much balance error their respective shots need to correct.
@cs3712126 жыл бұрын
didnt expect THAT lengthy essay when i clicked Read more lol. well written though
@joshuanramirez71825 жыл бұрын
Are u a coach?
@theqsanity57975 жыл бұрын
I need more.
@menkirdennis66865 жыл бұрын
Michael Dickey Profile pic checks out!
@Ninethepoet3 жыл бұрын
Wow…. Where did u gain such knowledge
@tigerlife10074 жыл бұрын
Coach: “Does the ball go in the basket?” Player: “Yes” Coach: “Then your shooting form is good”
@pacosamson58814 жыл бұрын
If it ain't broke don't fix it its a good and consistent shot so as long as it works its perfect
@JaredProd303 жыл бұрын
@@pacosamson5881 True! You can make shots in any jumper if you comfortable with it As long as it's not as ugly as Lonzo I mean His form was the problem why he is shooting bad but he fixed it
@rorybarkley38002 жыл бұрын
You got lucky with your coach 😅
@bg357wg2 жыл бұрын
@@JaredProd30 you forget about Joakim Noah lol
@jefpduct87256 жыл бұрын
Their similarity is that they both have an NBA father that cultivated them to be a great shooters.
@ljbates50786 жыл бұрын
Jef Pduct klays dad wasn't q good shooter
@arguingwithstupidpeople20476 жыл бұрын
Mychal Thompson averaged over 50% from the field for his career.
@marcusb.30386 жыл бұрын
@@arguingwithstupidpeople2047 mostly around the basket shots, though.
@kenzitarantino72716 жыл бұрын
@@ljbates5078 Dell was pretty good tho
@burcopresents4 жыл бұрын
Jef Pduct and that is why their sibling
@cloudjin8936 жыл бұрын
Curry worked on this style of shooting during high school I believe. He had a more traditional style of shooting till his dad told him he wouldn’t survive the nba with that type of shooting. When he started working on the unorthodox shooting style, he missed a lot of his shots but he got better at it and now it’s one of the most powerful moves in the nba. This allows steph, with his shorter stature, to completely outplay way taller opponents when he combines it with his handles.
@tjgrafiks4 жыл бұрын
he didn't have a more traditional style of shooting. he pushed from his chest. it developed from a two hand push shot as a kid, which is y his left hand is still so involved in the release of his shot today. his adjustment was to bring the ball from a higher point ie: over his eye instead of from the chest area which make his shot easy to block and harder for him to adjust.
@ronnielgonzalve45506 жыл бұрын
Muscle memory is the key, this two probably shot a million jump shot in their life. look at reggie miller shot his form is ugly but still considered one of the best clucth shooter of all time.
@Brqinstorm6 жыл бұрын
Muscle memory is not everything. Because I can tell you that even the worse 3 point shooters practice a lot. An interesting fact is also that Curry had to break his jumpshot to the ground growing up because he was still shooting from his waist.
@rayray51686 жыл бұрын
+기린 yeah
@coolest2286 жыл бұрын
If it was only a million i'd be unimpressed.
@damianvillarin24545 жыл бұрын
A million is rookie numbers.
@user-ns9fc5 жыл бұрын
기린 he still does lmaooo
@CRFIDJ9K6 жыл бұрын
So moral of the video is "Practice your shot and you'll get a good shot because specifics aint that important."
@Felipe-kg8cc5 жыл бұрын
No, you need to get the most comfortable, fast, and straight shot as possible and train it. You also have to make sure it will give enough power and a high enough arc.
@tinbin74 жыл бұрын
Just develop a good shot and form that you are comfortable with
@spence_of_house_paw6 жыл бұрын
God damn Klay's shot is beautiful
@isaiahsanchez59806 жыл бұрын
Great video. After watching I tried using curry's mechanics and klays. I noticed that most of curry's mechanics really made a difference with my shot like the thumb flick and the elbow flare. Thanks so much bro.🏀👌🏻
@bbcoachlara6 жыл бұрын
the 'elbow flare' as you call it is simply alignment of their shooting elbow with the rim - both start turned (not square) but Klay is more square then steph so it looks like his elbow is in. Neither is really square nor is either elbow "in", both are aligned, it's just that steph (and every other great shooter) starts with their shooting foot/hip/shoulder closer to the rim than their off hand side.
@arlypaulmigueldamuy52216 жыл бұрын
If Steve Kerr did not give Steph rests in so many fourth quarters (because of a blowout game) Curry could easily make 20 three pointers in a game or make more scoring records.
@kyuquwu6 жыл бұрын
If curry didn't have so many injuries he probably would stay until 4th quarter
@danielt.12086 жыл бұрын
Code: 01 if the warriors didn’t play curry right after his injuries and let him heal properly, he wouldn’t have had more injuries.
@Ez3s6 жыл бұрын
And if Phil didn't sit Kobe during the 4th quarter of blowouts he'd have multiple 70+ games and probably even a 100+ but hey...
@myweirdsecondchannelwithap90702 жыл бұрын
@@Ez3s you can say the same about Steph and Klay.
@blak13512 жыл бұрын
steph curr vs steph curry
@rorymacneil70706 жыл бұрын
Great video. I like the comparative approach. It allows you to highlight points in a way that you can't do so easily when focusing on a single player.
@roostr216 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone the biggest difference that I see between Clay and Steph is that Clay is right handed and right eye dominant while Steph is right handed and left eye dominant. This means Steph aims with his left which causes him to elbow flare. Pay attention to Kevin Durant who is also right handed and left eye dominant and with long arms which causes even more of a elbow flare.
@therealdeal-sg5bo Жыл бұрын
Steph curry shoots over his right eye 😂😂
@narutoaisaka96206 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much scot shot basketball i added some from klay and steph i tried it out i made the 3
@MS-tz1ml5 жыл бұрын
@8:31 "Congratulations on making it through to the end of a KZbin video" … Its about time I finally get a little respect! Although I missed half of it cause I was in the bathroom.
@b.i.g3266 жыл бұрын
Curry's thumb flic doesn't influence his shot path, the ball leaves his right hand after tbe left has already lost contact. It is a bug parte of Kyrie's shot however
@dlh34766 жыл бұрын
Spot on. I wouldn't even call it a thumb flick. In Stephs's case, I refer to it as more of a thumb tuck. JR Smith has a similar thumb tuck. Sue Bird consciously made a decision to tuck her thumb to avoid what you alluded to which is the thumb flick from the non-shooting hand affecting the flight of the ball. However, there are some shooters (i.e. Kyrie, Kevin Love, Doug McDermott, even Steve Kerr, even Ray Allen, I think had a little thumb flick) who can get away with it, but I would not encourage it or recommend it. The aforementioned names I would consider the exceptions as opposed to the rule. I wouldn't incorporate it as a "feature" in building a shot because it presents an unnecessary variable. It provides a source of power, but generally speaking with most people, a "thumb flick" turns out to be an unreliable source of power as such is the case with the shot path being influenced. In essence, the less variables the simpler the shot, which enhances the possibility of greater accuracy. I would venture to say those great shooters who may have some "true" thumb flick activity became great shooters (by way of myelination) in spite of that "bug" instead of it being a feature of the shot.
@justinebautista13836 жыл бұрын
DLH34 Dougie doesn't use a thumb flick he uses a thumb tuck
@collisions94842 жыл бұрын
@@dlh3476 thumb flicks for me actually assist me in having more control. It makes it so even if I am not aligned all the way I can make that last adjustment with me thumb at the last second.
@michael.schuler6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for excellent analysis. To me, it seems that Steph's shot is actually a hybrid mix of jump shot and the set shot you shoot as a youngster. This results in both the quick release and his phenomenal range. When you shoot set shots as a little kid, you learn that your available power comes at that age from legs rather than big triceps required for classical jump shot and delayed release timing aimed to coincide with top of jump or even later. Also, your shooting motion starts with the ball much lower on your body than the classical Klay/Jerry West release. This low starting position, with the ball close in front of your body, makes it virtually impossible to get your shooting elbow directly under the ball. So my guess is that Steph's shot is little changed from what he was doing in grade school. I don't know how a mature player with experience and sufficient arm strength to be shooting jump shots at the peak of his jump could ever go backward to emulate what Steph does...
@SoCaliGuyHB3946 жыл бұрын
they both aim with their thigh muscles. their delivery is like one fluid shotput motion...not a catapult like the majority of NBA players. all one fluid motion. try this...you'd be amazed.
@healthdoc Жыл бұрын
You are exactly right about Steph. I think that’s why his shot is so consistent. The motion is grounded and a more continuous fluid motion. Classic jump shooters hesitate and only release the shot at the top of their jump. Shooters like Klay will sometimes find his shot coming up short late in the game when his release point changes with tired legs.
@FanArch3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is such a great video! Keep Killing It
@john50beach186 жыл бұрын
I think Curry is just a freak. He's just a guy born with the greatest hand eye coordination ever, so he doesn't have to go textbook
@magikarpwillsurvive26955 жыл бұрын
Whether or not he was born with the greatest hand eye coordination, Steph still deserves credit for his amazing shooting. Along with practicing seemingly impractical shots, he goes through a variety of neurocognitive exercises that help improve his craft
@DigitalAscensionArt6 жыл бұрын
Great video - I've always felt like things like shooting is more a mental thing - like a memory. I used to work on the mechanics of my shot but I would also feel something happen internally. First, you work the discipline. Then you learn to become comfortable with the discipline. But when that internal thing happens you become the discipline and no matter what happens you can't be separated from it. This is a difficult place to get to. That's why the NBA is not flooded with great shooters. Moving past the baby steps of working on simple mechanics and discipline is a road less traveled.
@ryanbaxter126 жыл бұрын
Great work! I think I would characterize Klay has having a slightly more square approach though as you point out his feet are clearly turned and his shooting arm is in front of this off hand. Because he is less turned then his shooting arm/elbow have to adjust to come more underneath for alignment. While Curry starts with a slightly more elbow flare (not extreme) he aligns his hip, elbow, and release with a stronger full body turn. The thumbflick is there but I'm wondering how influential it is to the shot because the release is the last touch point. This is clear in that the flick happens well before the final release. I would never advocate teaching that thumbflick to a youth shooter, however. I also wouldn't advocate teaching the lower release, but again it's hard to deny the results he can achieve with it! Curry's hands are also much smaller than Thompson's which maybe why he acquired the thumbflick when learning to shoot (though Irving's hand size is closer to Thompson's - so who knows). I have read elsewhere that in HS Curry had to modify his shot quite a bit to get it higher than it was too. Definitely both an art and science to shooting!
@FirstPlace976 жыл бұрын
Giving away a golden tip on how to shoot the ball here: add rotation to the spin when you shoot. Rather than shooting with purely external rotation of the shoulder, spin the ball downward with internal rotation at the moment that the shot goes off. This adds more control and slower speed for higher accuracy and lower air resistance. You can make a shot almost every time this way.
@mcdchickenbaconclubhouse90576 жыл бұрын
good video. many kids today try to copy stars move and then got messed up.
@mattiacassell64646 жыл бұрын
Have good basics and then tailor your shot to what is most comfortable for you. It has really helped me.
@coachmark36896 жыл бұрын
why probably the greatest shooter? It's a fact, he is the greatest!
@sportsinspiration94286 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video, great job breaking down the splash brothers shots!
@rickyboi2.0306 жыл бұрын
The elbow flare also creates the turning of Cury's body because he has to rotate his wrist and bring in his elbow which leads to him having to rotate his body which also furthermore causes thumb flick because he has to extend his off hand release to be at the adiquate distance from the basket.
@felixhug65036 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I think one of the differences has to do with their height and being catch and shoot or off the bounce shooters. Currys shot is much about momentum and speed to get the shot off quick and from range. He essentially starts with the ball from the center of the body and as you pointed out brings it up towards the last part of the re;ease to the side. I think his evolution as a smaller shooter allows him from left to ride and right to left to be ready and balanced quicker, as balance stays in the centre. Shooters who shoot more from the side and in the classic shooting motion generally find it harder to turn shoulder and body quick enough when moving towards the side where their shooting hand is. However when moving away from their shooting hand side they can release with ease without turning the body as much. Both have perfect footwork to get to their spots, but i would think bevause of the centre of balance curry keeps, he can release quicker, faster and from a somewhat lower position if that makes any sense. Klays motion is just textbook, but it takes a lot of work to perfect your balance and footwork to go towards your shooting hand and turn. You could argue thats why his release off the dribble is not as fast. The other thing i noticed about Curry’s shot is the high arching traveling path after the release, which means that the surface to hit the basket becomes larger, marging for error greater. Great shooters seem to have that in common. I think its really hard to be consistent with a flat shooting curve.
@e12dollarz6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this. You ever consider doing breakdowns of some of the great historic shooters like Dell Curry or Larry Bird? Would be fun to see some comparisons of great shooters through the ages.
@jumongwu6 жыл бұрын
I think that the height has something to do with shooting form, steph obviously the smaller guy needs more force to shoot the ball, hence borrowing force from the left thumb.
@maybe59182 жыл бұрын
Coach, I feel like Curry's off-hand is not making a thumb-flick when he shoots. I believe he rotates his wrist away from the ball as it goes up, making the thumb naturally move forward. This makes the illusion of a thumb-flick.
@ayoonine5 жыл бұрын
Klay's form is cocaine pure
@jo.the.sprintbok43666 жыл бұрын
Man you're doing a great job ! Love it
@remedy_40145 жыл бұрын
In 3:22 to 3:26 in my opinion it would take much longer to fully develop the "thumb flick" cause at differnt ranges you can put more or less force on the off hand and it would make you lot more inconsistent but klay's release would be a lot more eaiser to master if you have never delt with the thumb flick problem both still take skill and practice, but klay's is more consistent
@ofermashiach45194 жыл бұрын
Steph is gifted. Whatever he does, right form or otherwise, it gets results. Astounding results.
@reotseng32996 жыл бұрын
Something I see that not many people point out is the notation of basketball seams, curry being a notable example. Maybe you should touch on it in a future video (if you haven't already). Hand placements are super important and I have a feeling that the seam placement curry has acts as a natural way for him to shoot from long distance.
@simonpark29126 жыл бұрын
Reo Tseng im sure its not curry since when you catch and shoot you cant rotate the ball trying to match the seams
@traceyhopkins36986 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@matthew-ox5zx5 жыл бұрын
@@simonpark2912 you can just practice shuffling your hands to the right position when catching it
@chrissullivan65726 жыл бұрын
IMO Klay and JJ Redick have the purest shooting form, arguably in NBA history.
@speedylightning53506 жыл бұрын
I worked on my 3 and by default it came out like klays pretty cool
@clementchen53516 жыл бұрын
So glad I crossed by your channel. Great content, keep it up.
@markhathaway94564 жыл бұрын
They're both shooting a very high arching shot. If you compare them to a layup, that's also a very high release with the elbow pointing almost straight up. If you consider a tall player shooting from about 5-8 feet, they don't have to go up so much as forward, and that throws them off. Their shots are often an uncoordinated mess. So, I'm thinking the 1- or 2-motion isn't so important except to get advantage before a defender can respond or to be jumping high before releasing. I'm thinking elbow-in or out doesn't make much difference if you're consistently hitting. What seems important is to have a good form for the distance of your shot and the height & closeness of your defender. The very high release seems common to all those. However, the "set point" with elbow about the height of your shoulder or chin can still be useful.
@rupertallan66314 жыл бұрын
Where do you visually aim when shooting? Front of rim? Back of rim? Middle of space? Half way between middle of space and back rim?
@pepsiguzzler866 жыл бұрын
Vince Carter has a very interesting stroke to his shot. Considering everything from the feet up he might be a good person to analyse for the future. Plus he has huge hands which would be useful for big players.
@rickyboi2.0306 жыл бұрын
Elbow flare is what leads to the thumb flick. You said that with elbow flare the shooting wrist has to rotate out instead of simply flexing to align the shot. Because of this, the off hand has to rotate in order to not interrupt the rotation of the ball that the shooting hand is creating whilst it turns to align the ball with the elbow basket etc.
@bekastepanishvili115 жыл бұрын
Soo underrated, good content buddy 👏🏻
@KhanSharief6 жыл бұрын
I think its really about shooting mastery.
@caseyfarrell57606 жыл бұрын
I think their forms also have to do with the type of shots they put up. You see a lot of catch and shoot with Klay and a lot of off the dribble shots from curry. Curry’s jumpshot allows him to practically pull up from any position his body is in, thus why he makes crazy 3 pointers. Klay’s is a more picture perfect shot and he doesn’t necessarily need to be, but it helps significantly if he’s in a ready position and can get his stroke off without a rush
@norelation36 жыл бұрын
Hyped for episode 3
@pigged6 жыл бұрын
Glen Rice & Ray Allen are my all time favourite shooters with really good pose. I also like Curry & Kerr who have similar forms. Reggie Miller probably is the greatest shooter with terrible form but most importantly the shooters must feel comfortable in shooting without using much strength or effort.
@killedward28826 жыл бұрын
Klay’s form had changed to more of a set shot and it appears that he may be using his left hand a little more
@jordanschunk5 жыл бұрын
Super helpful video. Thanks!
@louis29726 жыл бұрын
Could you do a vid on eye dominance and shooting?
@cliffsauer91115 жыл бұрын
Louis that would be a good video. I’m right handed and left eye dominant. I think it has made me inconsistent t
@bbouro6 жыл бұрын
steph is like bruce lee in basketball....flows like water, its not mechanical. one with the ball
@_j_t_p_6 жыл бұрын
Earth - lebron, wind - KD, fire - westbrook
@_j_t_p_4 жыл бұрын
@Chris Williams spirit/heart? Kobe is definitely a fire guy out of the main 4 elements
@KyR135 жыл бұрын
I have the same shooting form as curry but i didnt even know that is how he shoots, its just i felt comfortable with the shooting form with off hand thumb flick
@Jefferrrson5 жыл бұрын
perfect video. great job sir!
@harveyp34196 жыл бұрын
I used to try Curry’s shooting when my hand was still weak, now I use Klay’s
@Felipe-kg8cc5 жыл бұрын
Mans grew muscles on his palms
@mark.tapado6 жыл бұрын
Love thenext vid im excited
@christopherhorn11616 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid...great depth
@jungyin16 жыл бұрын
There are many things that shooting coaches get wrong often, such as the claim that dipping is bad for your shot or that you must have your feet perfectly squared up to the basket. However, the no thumb flick rule makes sense and should still be taught to kids at a young age, as when they get older, most kids who start using their weak hand thumb on their shot will end up putting a weird spin on the ball thus ruining the path of the ball on their shot. Some shooters may have perfected the thumb flick, but it is not recommended and should be fixed ASAP if possible. The two reasons why Klay and Steph are such good shooters are because they are 1 motion shooters who shoot mid jump, rather than at the top of their jump, and because they both have extremely quick releases and have the ability to quickly square up to the basket and set themselves up for a shot.
@princetreyvon80966 жыл бұрын
Klay’s shot is pure
@mehmeteminm6 жыл бұрын
Kobe also uses left hand thumb, it really gives an extra power to it. I also have a simular shot to curry, i feel its lackness a lot when i injure my left thumb.
@mianaomipost98855 жыл бұрын
Greats of All Time have a trait that can’t easily be duplicated-they’re unorthodox enough to elevate the game out of traditional bounds! Hence the Williams sisters, MJ, Tiger, Babe, Federer, Bolt, Michael Johnson and others that will leave legendary footprints on sports!
@BrockMak6 жыл бұрын
3:54 How big are Klay's hands compared to Kyrie and Steph?
@huntermassie11175 жыл бұрын
5:22 currys right shoulder looks wierd
@ernestoa53646 жыл бұрын
I think the difference between the two great shooters is there height 6'3 vs 6'7 .I played basketball a lot when i was younger the best shooter don't jump because there upper body strong and don't use to much energy, like the one's who jumpe to get there shoot.
@lucas_vasconcelos6 жыл бұрын
yes, a player's height determines his shooting form.
@chrissullivan65726 жыл бұрын
It does, but Steph used to have a low release, almost from his chest in HS. Similar Eric Gordon or Willie Warren. You can tell because his release is still kinda low, it's just so fast.
@MS-tz1ml5 жыл бұрын
Their is another thing... There shooting also depends of you are shooting from here or from they're. Cause if you are shooting from they're its farther and their is more force needed to get the ball all the way they're. There words not mine.
@HandsomeRabbit86 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say that OP you probably got all the points wrong. Seeing that you are also learning the right shooting mechanics yourself, I suggest you edit your videos to avoid misleading others. First, Steph does not have a thumb flick. He merely has longer guiding tunnel with his left hand. Compare his left thumb with that of Iverson or Irving then you will know. When you have longer guiding tunnel your whole left hand "flicks" so to speak. This is especially misleading when you continue to talk about how young players could thumb flick. You need to understand that the reason why young players tend to thumb flick is because they lack the shooting strength. It is a disguised form of two-hand shooting. Secondly, the point you made about Steph having an outward flaring elbow is also wrong. Steph has a lower set point and more turn of his body; before shooting his right hip is already aligned to the basket. If you watch the actual frontal camera shot you will know. Plus, he further turns his whole body to get more extension and momentum, right before release. His right elbow is as straight as mechanically sound. The photo you took at 5:13 is from a SIDE camera angle and is therefore misleading. There is nothing "complex" about Steph's elbow. You want an example of elbow flare? Check out videos of LBJ before he modified his shooting stroke two years ago. Talking about Klay, he does not have much turn of his body when he lines up; he is more of a square shooter in terms of his body and the ball travels closer to the right shoulder therefore allowing his elbow to be more straight. Try these points yourself and you will instantly notice. Thirdly, you talked a bit about their legs - that is in fact a big difference between these two. Granted they both have good skills to use their legs but Klay tends to shoot with his upper body strength more than Steph. That is also why Klay has a much leaner mid-range pull-up game whereas Steph excels in ultra-long range shooting. Your point about their difference in stances is actually a result of their different usage of leg power. Lastly, you included a clip of your shooting practice. As a bit of advice, DO NOT get into the habit of jumping forward as you did in that clip, especially in competitive games, where overly aggressive defenders can easily destroy your ankle - you are basically jumping into the foot of a defender trying to block your three. Besides, your set point is way too low meaning diligent defenders could easily block your shots if they get familiar. Apologize for the long paragraphs and blunt criticism but I hope OP as an avid basketball fan knows where I am coming from on these..
@myfatcatateadoormatmeow21255 жыл бұрын
thats some cheese
@sabahbubbler6 жыл бұрын
If you could cover mechanics of shooting on legs that's be great as well. Shooting is not only from the hands, but most shooters use their legs to shoot
@club65253 жыл бұрын
Coaches: Do this The Splash Bros: Nah man Curry: I’m going to do the exact opposite of what you say Klay: Maybe something like that but I still going to break some rules
@michael-il2by6 жыл бұрын
While I agree that there are many ways to achieve a reasonable jump shot, I think the quickest way for an amateur to improve his jump shot is to adopt Klay's approach and get your elbow under the ball. Once you get the ball going straight consistently, all you have to worry about is distance. I found that to get my elbow under the ball comfortably, I _had_ to turn my body. It really surprised me that Klay doesn't turn his body much.
@artsXart6 жыл бұрын
Do a Lonzo Ball shot break down! We all would love to hear you analyze that against a Bill Cartwright free throw, lol.
@hexsplays2 жыл бұрын
Elbow flare is directly related to the degree of turn implemented.
@Stephcurryfan132 жыл бұрын
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@rickyboi2.0306 жыл бұрын
more body turn isn't always caused by elbow flare but it definately does impact thumb flick although again not always
@GOlone95974 жыл бұрын
I copy curry's shot mechanics and for me it worked. I think it's suitable with smaller players.
@chrissmi6 жыл бұрын
Hey scot shot i just need you to answer one question please because it would help me a lot. Would steph curry be as good as a shooter without a thumbflick
@stephenchen25636 жыл бұрын
Practice and application are two closely-related but very different things. See it as a tadpole and a frog. There is a long tail on a tadpole that a frog doesn’t have. Thats the textbook examples and practices we all had to go through to become good at something. They serve only as guidelines and give us a general understanding on how something should be done. Eventually the tail will go away and we will have learned to do it on our own.
@momoblue16916 жыл бұрын
Can you do Lonzo Ball? I want to see how he raises the ball with left hand and shoot with right hand
@adonisscantlebury59506 жыл бұрын
Idk how curry shoots like that,when i shoot like klay its a swish most of the time but when i copy curry i brick sooo bad.🤦♂️
@Directorpro66 жыл бұрын
adonis scantlebury curry just throws the bricks but idk how it’s in most of the time
@WadeWalker226 жыл бұрын
adonis scantlebury because y’all don’t have the same body types
@kellyjocelyn84716 жыл бұрын
G shit. Klay form is more relax compare to curry is more fluid motion, which is really hard cause you need to have a light, balance body. It amazing he is an Superstar like this cause being a light, balance body player is consider weak asf when it come to using your body to absorb strong hits. That why he is always being push around.
@mega1chiken6dancr96 жыл бұрын
Its because currys shot is impossible to duplicate. Ignore thse people talking about currys body and how he shoots bricks. You seriously cant copy currys form. As you saw with the thumb flick he uses a specific amount of power to make shots he doesn't know what it is. Also sometimes curry is turned around and his feet are messed up yet he still makes his shots. It's completely impossible for a normal person to duplicate currys shot. Just copy Klays
@fred41376 жыл бұрын
Lin Lin Towns completely agree mate. Klay has the traditional shot, he pretty much perfected it. You wanna teach someone how to shoot, you show videos of Klay. And Steph is more unorthodox, even though his shots doesn’t look awkward at all: it’s so smooth.. no one can really replicate it, the man is just a genius And at the end both of their shots are so fluid, so effortless. Best backcourt in history
@suadrashid46705 жыл бұрын
Can you make more videos please thank you my son likes your information
@Felipe-kg8cc5 жыл бұрын
There are more differences, Curry gets force from every little movement he makes while shooting. His lightning-quick release helps with that. That is one thing that allows him to get tons of power for a shot from way downtown. Curry's set shot form is below 90° in relation to his shoulder, and his forearm also bends in a degree smaller than 90. That allows him to get more power to shoot. If you take a close look in Steph's follow through, its not a straight line, it makes some sort of 'S' shape. That allows him to get a higher arc for his jumper.
@zacharyjones79486 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story. Find a decent shot form you'll stick with, and practice till you're consistent
@torikowooden98863 жыл бұрын
3:05 NBA 2k mobile steph curry
@justinebautista13836 жыл бұрын
am i the only one who is actually pretty good with steph's jumpshot here?
@bepe42795 жыл бұрын
PHOENIXHDGAMING// HQ got one more here
@rimarclark2536 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much bec my form is exactly like steph curry and every makes fun of because of my shot even tho I’m constant.i thought it was bad to left hand flick bec I’m not strong enough to shoot with one hand only and the off just to guide I find it very uncomfortable for me to shoot like that
@cecilsmith245 жыл бұрын
thumb flick is caused by shooting at a rim that is too high with a ball that is too heavy from a young age and using the off hand for additional strength. As the shooter gets older they adjust their shot but this is a left over problem from an early mechanical deficiency. I would argue that this would be impossible to "teach" as a mechanic and if applied incorrectly can add side spin to the ball. Klay has better technique, but no one has probably ever practiced shooting more than Steph and that is the difference.
@noidea5915 жыл бұрын
Soooo it’s head to toe have eps 3 yet?
@darmstrong93346 жыл бұрын
Good shooting starts in the legs. Clay is stronger than Curry and does'nt require the effort it takes to shoot. This is the difference in form. They both work but Stephs shot is more animated because he has to put in more work! Please post a video of you in an actual game. Not a shoot around!
@tjgrafiks6 жыл бұрын
also klay is 4-5 inches taller so its easier for him to shoot over defenders so it's less effort on his shot, which makes it look so smooth!
@darmstrong93346 жыл бұрын
tjggrafiks stop it! You are not a ball player on this level.
@tjgrafiks6 жыл бұрын
D Armstrong has nothing to do with facts my man...me not being on that level has nothing to with physics and the fact that i've been playing for over 30 yrs. klay doesn't have to work as hard to get a shot off. one or two doubles max or none with a defender in his face no need to dance and dribble back n forth to create space!
@tjgrafiks6 жыл бұрын
D Armstrong U do realize i was agreeing with your comment and just added to it right? hence my statement beginning with also... smh lol
@darmstrong93346 жыл бұрын
tjgrafiks My bad. This kid has a few burner accounts. Hard to tell who is real. I commented on a previous video that tries to explain why Curry is such a good shooter because of "thumb flick". I used Thompsons shooting form as to why it's false and a few days later, this video pops up. Difference in Steph and Klays shooting form. You should subscribe to Scot Shot Basketball and view the comments. What are your thoughts on the "thumb flick" Mr. 30 yrs of basketball?
@candicemcgillvery3 жыл бұрын
very good man
@Ricmz6 жыл бұрын
what about lbj an kd?
@bruhs46216 жыл бұрын
Klay's shot is just beautiful
@derrickroze1526 жыл бұрын
D Books got a good looking shot too
@TheBanderson226 жыл бұрын
Curry's wrist didn't rotate outwardly, thats internal rotation at the shoulder causing that. And his thumb doesnt flex, it adducts.
@mariamercyacebu91946 жыл бұрын
Adul Rauf and Curry have the same shooting position and they are both deadly
@sdfg886 жыл бұрын
shouldn't the main thing about shooting jumps shots is just shooting jump shots? ie practice, and practice more to get a consistent shot that you're comfortable with. steph and klay gives us a template where we could find our own comfortable mechanic in our shots
@darmstrong93346 жыл бұрын
If you pause @3:31 you can clearly see that Kyries guide hand is off the ball. I saw the "thumb flick" a split second between 3:31 and 3:32 with his shooting middle finger being the last to come off the ball. Its like Kevin Durant doing a shimmy everytime he shoots a free throw. Get that guide hand up! Rigid! Fundamentals learn first! ( In my Yoda voice)
@kbye33235 жыл бұрын
as long as youre comfortable at your shooting form, its ok
@marknesbitt66015 жыл бұрын
If it’s not broken don’t fix it
@aapoimmonen5 жыл бұрын
Idk why but everytime i shoot i keep doing that off hand thing that steph does like my left hand thumb points forward not up
@christophermartinez13666 жыл бұрын
If the video is you shooting you start from your hip. You need to bring your shot up massively from it's start point. Catching low isn't a problem but starting your movement from your hip means you have an extra 2 feet to get stripped.