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[@FlygonHG]

Thanks for having me, Jan! Super fun!

[@FoolishStudent-er1ld]

That clutch was insane! Congrats!

[@infpdreams]

I was rooting for you all along, and I had a feeling you'd do well!

[@ShadowNeros]

Always happy to see you involved in these community based things! Glad you obtained plot armor status

[@ryanleith5968]

Great performance

[@andrewcook8300]

I’m so glad you got first. I was rooting for you the whole time, and that clutch was epic. Percentage overflow works every time, baby.

[@michaelwhalen9084]

the fact that Flygon was completely stomping actual speed runners is such a testament to just how good he is at Pokemon

[@cptKamina]

Yea but also speedrunners usually aren't actually all that good at the games they play.

[@Eroil]

​@@cptKaminawell there are a lot of aspects of being good at a game, and depending on the game they can definitely be cracked at almost every aspect.

[@NathanRibeirodeFrancaYegrosFer]

​@@Eroil1Ultrakill speedrunners are probably the most skilled players at the game, specially if they are running levels

[@hosay.]

@@cptKaminahow does that make any sense, i dont think youre aware of how much time speedrunners put into a game they play to master it

[@tejasdixit4417]

​@@hosay.The speedrunners pretty much lost because of how used they are to using items in battle.

[@MrSandman115]

Just a quick thing if you do this race again, some title cards naming the streamers would be super helpful for the youtube watchers who don’t watch all of them. Love the video though!

[@Rayneworld]

I second this, I was also having trouble keeping tack of who is who, tho I still did enjoy this vid. I was also struggling watching his cheater's tournament vid for similar reasons; it was a bit too fast paced with not enough explaining for someone casual like me watching. This one was much easier to understand tho! Love the content anyways.

[@staraprs1719]

Yeah I had to use the multistream URL to work out who was who.

[@teacup4561]

I also wish he had some kind of ending commentary to wrap up the video, it ended very abruptly

[@Adi-oc7vu]

​@@teacup4561yeah I felt the same and the names of you players even just once in the 6 screen the names appearing would have been helpful

[@hiimmijk]

Agreed, I only knew Flygon

[@howdoiturnssj3]

The Flygon champion fight was legendary. All of his plans crumbling due to getting outsped for some reason and it coming down to pure luck, and the RNG gods smiling upon him. Congrats to him for his victory.

[@HOUROFPOW3R]

That's one way for me to learn that sharpedo has a base speed of 95, and tentacruel 100... of all pokemon for those stats 😂

[@jebroiroij2176]

The way I popped off for him when he hit those Megahorns 😂

[@bad_ill5626]

​@@HOUROFPOW3Rthat's gamefreak logic for you bro 😂

[@RobWirdWachsen]

"Brick Break does at least 34% and thunderbolt did at least 66%", better go megahorn lol

[@SheffiTB]

@@RobWirdWachsen yeah he did just straight up mess up the math afaik there, but that's pressure for you

[@Jim-of-Rohan]

30:40 Whacko staring down a guaranteed KO from Ice Beam and actually landing the Leaf Blade on Kingdra for the win. Dude's got some stainless steel balls.

[@MiaaaaaChan]

Man didn't even flinch

[@jamesanderson1139]

And convincing Flygon to go for the Megahorns

[@joosi1895]

I'm pretty sure they're stained steel balls

[@moto2442]

He had some crazy rng though that run. Never missing key rollouts, hitting through para 4 times in a row. 3 1/6 hits in a row. Crazy.

[@mr.thekid3827]

I'm gonna be 110% honest with you, Whacko was carried by RNG for SO MUCH of this run, and telling Flygon to go for the Megahorns was basically him just using that RNG to help someone else Flygon may have been first place, but the Nuzlockers wouldn't have won without Whacko's luck XD

[@eddaket]

Awesome to be a part of this. Even though we didn't win, it was a ton of fun. Super impressed by all the Nuzlockers on how fast they got through things too!

[@anru5063]

love when jan uploads a million things at the end of the month for those sweet sweet sponsorship commitments

[@AugmentalGameplay]

Based

[@Waas]

Seasonal CPM is a definitely a factor. That or Jan just had a bunch of vids being edited at the same time come out at the same time.

[@vince8901]

@@Waas Nah he did the Nuzzies and this video very recently like last week on stream

[@marissadougal5125]

December also tends to be the most profitable month for KZbinrs thanks to all the sponsors and people watching KZbin at the time with holidays and more vacation time

[@fernfern0]

blessed we are that he gets these sponsorships or else us youtube frogs would not be getting much content from him

[@Jim-of-Rohan]

24:30 Whacko rocking the Whitney strats brings a tear to my eye

[@Whacko2]

This was super exciting Jan! Thank you for putting this together! :)

[@andriuxpx]

You also did great man! That plusle was insanelly lucky, congrats on second place!

[@Cantbearsed447]

You are very handsome

[@huntersnider9621]

That Flygon champion fight was a better ending than you possibly could've asked for, holy shit let's go

[@syther4585]

3 videos in 1 week. Dude Jan is smoking something

[@ChilledJunior]

Not even 1 week, it's 3 days

[@Spirihts]

It’s heading into December that’s why

[@dotraj8704]

Sponsorship deadlines is usually what creators say when they suddenly post a bunch at once

[@UGMD]

He’s mentioned before (I think on twitter) that he usually posts at the end of the month because it’s when the sponsors are due. He procrastinates the rest of the month then crams them all once the pressure builds enough. No disrespect though, I do the exact same procrastination in my own life

[@unboundsoul3582]

He's on that sponsored video grind

[@znotetakureviews9138]

One thing that's so interesting to highlight here is planning in advance vs. relying on luck. Nuzlockes try to minimize luck as much as possible to avoid losing altogether, while speedrunners tend to embrace luck for the purposes of completing the game as fast as possible. It's a high risk = high reward approach, but since Nuzlockers tend to think of the games beyond simply finishing as fast as possible, they tend to be more apt for contingencies and playing the odds when it favors them, ultimately saving time otherwise spent in the end. That's obviously only scratching the surface, but it was an interesting video! I wouldn't mind seeing more of these types of things for all the other games.

[@gjbsarmeri3957]

That's actually kinda wrong considering in the video the nuzlockers are the ones that had an insane amount of luck during the whole run

[@CoalSmudge]

Second time in a week FlygonHG shows how why heracross is GOATed. That double mega horn was a great way to finish

[@gunnarschlichting9886]

Especially with the Path of Pain music from Hollow Knight in the background, that was intense.

[@Quixote3]

Unreal, respect to all the contestants and especially to Mr. SpeedrunHG

[@maxwellmahoney1452]

DOCTOR Speedrun HG !!

[@harrya9458]

11:03 Flygon’s misunderstanding and then slow realization are hilariously perfect here

[@jidda3]

I never knew how much i needed an nfl red zone for nuzlocke/speedrunning

[@SpaceOddity174]

The ending to these are always so abrupt, wish you had some conversation with the participants afterwards

[@ichbinschwul187]

the ending to your life will be abrupt (may 23rd 2024)

[@ChilaAuroraVT]

The convo after was mainly just stuff we saw from the povs

[@TekkatV2]

​@@ichbinschwul187I wish mine was as soon as that

[@Eilfylijokul]

Cause these are half finished videos that Jan forces out because otherwise he loses his sponsors for the month

[@CM_684]

​@@ichbinschwul187what do you know that we all don't?

[@LeviAuren]

"But wouldn't it be cool if I did" is the energy we love to see from FlygonHG

[@crazyand2099]

Nothing will ever beat seeing Flygon hit both Megahorns live.

[@thechoripankiller]

To be fair, speedrunners played by nuzlocker's rules. Usually speedrunners use the most optimal strategy, which would involve using a single or very few Pokémon, without any level cap, and free access to the bag. It would be interesting to see this again, but with a more speedrunning oriented rule set

[@riolufistofmight]

Sure, but they did also have a huge number of potential advantages. Starting access to Mach bike, a draft for pokemon, the removal of a number of forced encounters (Aqua/Magma storyline) This fight, like Jan said, pretty clearly came down to overworld knowledge or boss knowledge and the Nuzlockers killed it.

[@bigfudge2031]

But no offense to speedrunners but watching 6 people just do a solo run spamming a bunch of X items wouldn't be entertaining to watch.

[@ShinyGBZ]

42:12 This the exact type of mental gymnastics I be using on a hard fight lmao "Because I already hit a Thunder, Megahorn is GUARANTEED to hit here"

[@zalezagoon1247]

"Three of the most prolific speed runners, and three of the sweatiest nuzlockers" 💀 💀 💀 💀

[@AvocadoTheBugCat]

FYI, it would be helpful to have the name of the person playing under each video, otherwise it's hard to tell who is who.

[@bren8511]

what do you mean you don't know who bald white guy 42 is

[@vez3834]

Agreed. I have watched 1 of the 6 people playing. Maybe seen Wacko's face associated with the name before. So being generous I "knew" 2.

[@ghengiroo4143]

I felt it was pretty easy to figure out who was who based on context, but it took a couple minutes to actually get to that point so yeah having the names would be helpful.

[@JoannaFalkowska]

there's so many white dudes telling them apart is the real pokemon challenge here

[@Ailleas]

I’m glad Jan is getting more and more collaborations. I think that being among other Pokémon KZbinrs really helped improve his continent.

[@AwadhiCartoonComedyofficial]

Hay I making animation video

[@strikerx9720]

As a FlygonHG enjoyer that insane Wallace is one for the books. Thanks for showing the speed runners AND GarchompFJ what’s up Flygon!!!

[@sorinsilverheart3200]

The double pop off at the very end was so satisfying. What a wild final fight.

[@AwadhiCartoonComedyofficial]

Hay I making animation video

[@Jim-of-Rohan]

42:11 Whacko's surfer dude wisdom is just beautiful

[@SnoozzeYT]

My bets were on flygon from the start. Speed runners aren't used to crafting for battles where they are unable to use items or heal and can choose to use the most optimal pokemon so they don't have expereince with working with what you're given. Extremely great and hype video to watch and I hope to see more in the future!

[@amindformadness]

Nuzlocke draft races are a really fun and under-represented format. I've had an absolute blast running them with my friends.

[@mike81356]

Flygon foreshadowing the potential throw to Wallace final battle coming down to Megahorn RNG

[@Justiceinall]

I had no idea who these people were(some name plates would've helped) but this was an amazing roller coaster of a trip. I thought for sure the speed runners were just going to dunk on the nuzlockers after that start. Nuzlockers weren't using their bikes, weren't skipping rival fights, etc... but none of that ended up mattering. Over all solid battles pulled them through in the end. Great vid. Loved it.

[@petfriendamy]

Saw some of this live, so had to come watch the edited video! As a speedrun enjoyer, I'm not too surprised the Nuzlockers outperformed on the battling front-speedrunners have every fight down to a science, but generally with only 1 or 2 specific Pokémon and a lot of X-items. They don't really have to get down into the weeds as much as Nuzlockers do, haha. Everyone did so well though! And GG to Flygon for that insanely clutch finish!

[@TMcBagginspwnz]

Idk I think speedrunners definitely get down into the weeds. It’s just the weeds aren’t the same as nuzlocke.

[@freak_mj4842]

Yes wanted to write the same thing. Not beeing allowed to use items in battle and having the lvl cap really shows how much speedrunners rely on 1-2 (most of the time overleveled) pokemon and the use of items to get the insane times they do in the actual speedruns.

[@petfriendamy]

Honestly, I think the saving grace here is that speedrunners tend to have more rounded knowledge, i.e. anyone who speedruns professionally has probably dabbled in Nuzlockes and other challenge runs. (I know Pulse, at least, has done competitive battling.) If they'd picked people who **exclusively** do speedruns, there'd be no chance, because the skillset doesn't really require you to be good at battling--just at memorizing inputs.

[@elk12429]

Are the original vods still available anywhere?

[@petfriendamy]

@@elk12429 They're probably still up on Twitch?

[@Superbass73]

Flygon pushing Nosey lore through a separate channels competition is peak

[@dogfaceonscreen2053]

Incredible idea for a video! Please add nametags to the players if you ever plan on doing something similar though

[@CasinoJackpots361]

The final battle was so intense! congrats to dr. flygonhg

[@pokemonadventuresanimewhen3023]

39:13 - 39:23 this reminded me of why I would love a soul link of you two together

[@deerlyqueery]

Holy hell Flygon's final battle was tense, that had me on the edge of my seat! Awesome playing to everyone!

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

Man the back and forth of that and the drama of the last few minutes was heart pounding, great content from all involved, nice work

[@RedRedInc]

This was honestly sick. Big props to all the players and you for organizing the event. My boy Flygon earned this one

[@allgreatfictions]

I adore FlygonHG. I love to see it.

[@GlacierOasis]

This was awesome. Also loved the editing of letting the intense moments play full screen and then following it up with the reactions! Very smooth

[@TheSSClifford]

This was really great content. Hopefully more like this coming

[@TrizRocks]

The paralyzed rollout on Altaria was crazy

[@ToonedMinecraft]

Obviously Miltank was stuck in rollout position :P

[@RGPFerrous]

Holy shit i was on the edge of my seat for this. GG to all the participants, and amazing work on presenting this Jan. The commentary and editing was spot on!

[@retwerd]

Flygon’s finale was so edge of your seat. I love it

[@draconiskittensweetie9765]

This is Sports to me. Watching Flygon land those megahorns has gotta be what it feels like to win the superbowl

[@Leviwulf]

Fantastic video! As someone not familiar with a lot of nuzlockers/speedrunners I wish each of the runners had a name display so I knew who you were referring to throughout the race but it was still a blast to watch!

[@thod-thod]

This should have been soullinks between a nuzlocker and a speedrunner each

[@justjoannak]

Ooh, Id love to see something like that

[@maxcarter50]

This was great. Probably the most fun I've had watching one of your vids as a semi frequent watcher.

[@bradenwardle8402]

This was my favourite video I've watched in a long time. Such an amazingly close competition. I would love to see more of these in different generations.

[@YourBudTevin]

This was fire need more of this

[@CrownedGaming]

I love seeing the pokemon community do more challenges and collabs like this. Super dope content!

[@exeko8681]

JAN IS FEEDING US.. FINALLY, I WAS STARVING

[@ManoDraugas]

FlygonHG’s champion fight got my heart pumping! The double Megahorn!

[@Brycen950]

This is the perfect video with the best content creators, thanks pokemonchallenges

[@aLime404]

Such a great start to the video - watching gunner immediately hit the penjamin during the Wally scene was hilarious

[@bswest5]

This was a badass collab. Very fun. That champ fight for Flygon was insanity.

[@FrostyFrostySnow]

Flygon cool, calm and collected and then just sending it in the champion fight had me on the edge of my seat

[@ibassking]

This was fun to watch! Thank you ‼️

[@jmsq92]

I appreciate the content stream of the past few days... 3 videos for the week? dayum thanks editor and Jan

[@vince8901]

I watched this live and it was one of the best live experiences I've ever watched. I was rooting for the nuzlockers and from the start, they seemed to be the massive underdogs.... and then this happened. It was amazing.

[@DonSultanable]

that was so exciting to watch! You should do more races :D

[@cadenlang02]

Genuinely such a great video, that ending was incredible

[@leavetheturtle]

I love this shi, and this was still way more entertaining than I thought it'd be. Great content friendo!

[@AllBeganwithBBS]

Man what a heartbreak for Gunner, that could have been even closer than what we ended up getting.

[@tannerhicks7630]

Favorite video of yours in awhile - love the collabs

[@joshblackwell6898]

Love the vid format and so fun to watch all the way to the end!

[@MyAzhole]

Actually one of the best videos in a while. Absolute blast to watch

[@cocothecocobo1860]

Love the vid, would appreciate nameplates in future similar videos cause it took me a while to figure out who each pov was cause I’m not familiar with the runners/nuzlockers

[@iiTzDelta]

I haven’t been this stressed watching a video in a while. Great content

[@OzvenomDnD]

Nobody should ever sleep on FlygonHG. HE IS A DOCTOR.

[@zkatt3238]

The use of Kirby Air Ride music for the beginning makes me very happy

[@rompetiss]

Sweaty was one word to describe the nuzlockers when i watched that sponsor lmaooo. Love ur vids mate

[@bryce1197]

God what a clutch finish; that was super fun to watch!

[@radrabbit1985]

This was so cinematic omg put it on as background noise but ended up staying up to watch it all the way through

[@keanuakina9014]

Need more of these, this was fire

[@nicolasjacobs9451]

This was a really awesome video PK! I really enjoyed it, great idea!

[@Devininity]

The double megahorn play was so hype. So great to see everyone's games!

[@koboldgeorge2140]

This was super exciting to watch, i hope you do this event again!

[@thecybercat4420]

Its awesome to see how much funnier and higher-quality your intros have become

[@godminnette2]

This was very fun to watch live!

[@Zeldanerd7YT]

this was a really fun and neat video! I like the interesting plays from both teams. One small thing -- as someone who is out of both of these communities, it was a bit tough to figure out who was who just based on the context of the commentary. A few small nametags would have made the viewing experience a little better. But overall this is a really cool challenge. Thanks for taking the time to arrange it!

[@KingTaltia]

This was a great watch, I feel like on one hand I was rooting for the underdogs in a race, being the nuzlockers, but at the same time, Speedrunners know how to make the most of an advantage, going as fast as they can with whatever they've got, however, there comes a point in a speedrun where you accept defeat, and reset, while a Nuzlock incentivises persistance, because it doesn't matter how quick you beat the game, but if you can, given what meager pokemon you're given, so while the speedrunners could make the most of a good situation, nuzlockers could make the most of a BAD situation, which ultimately changes the question of "who's really the underdogs". What a good run, everyone did amazingly!

[@adnauseam1432]

What an incredible run. So many intense moments in here.

[@CommanderWolf888]

Damn, that Flygon champion fight was edge-of-my-seat levels of intense. I popped off right with him when each Megahorn hit.

[@__AlexTheGr8__]

>shows up >hits an optional >refuses to elaborate >leaves

[@lanceams483]

Flygon finale was insane. I had a feeling the nuzlockers would squeak out a win given the rules of the game, but hopefully this inspires a new speedrunning category (or brings more life into one that already exists) that incorporates nuzlocke rules, as this video shows how much potential something like that has.

[@Roachking41]

I needed these past 3 uploads lol

[@nsp6590]

More videos like this one please. This was amazing.

[@oceanskyisdark]

That was a thrill to watch. Great job to everyone involved

[@Taylorperchasemccarthy]

I hope Pulse comes back to nuzlocking in earnest someday, watching him lose EK and 180 back to pure speedrunning made me sad, especially since he’s super good at both but only showing it in one. Glad to see him in this race, and glad to see the sheer amount of content in the last couple days

[@SvviftDeath]

This was so hype. I can't wait for the rematch. GGs

[@Tj1611]

This was a really great video. Would love to see this done again. Possibly in a different region

[@pokebroeman]

The tension at the end bro with the amazing smash bros brawl music was everything

[@BloomThe2nd]

That format was one of the most thrilling Pokemon content I have seen in such a long time!! '°' Thanks to all of you for this amazing challange!!

[@kani-]

With those kind of videos, it'd be really cool to have a small visualizer of the leaderboards added during the editing, like some kind of bar with icons for the gym leaders / splits, and small icons moving along the line for each runner, perhaps with a colored outline to see the teams easily feedback aside, cool stuff :)

[@lumialight8305]

This was extremely enjoyable. Thanks for the content.

[@Kotenekrazy]

I love the draftlocke race idea. I really want to try and arrange one with my friends or someone.

[@Fadexpl]

Fantastic video. I really love your reaction to Flygon's fight. It shows that under your dark cynical heart there's a true passion for the game and the challenges nuzlockes provide, and maybe - just maybe - it grew three sizes that day.

[@beanwuzhear]

Always love to see collabs with Flygon and Whacko. But I gotta wonder, how could the challenge have been modified to make the playing field more equal? Speedrunners have more overworld knowledge while nuzlockers have the battle experience, but making gym leaders mandatory with level caps and no items basically took away all the speedrunners’ skills Fun to watch cuz nuzlockes make for hype moments but I couldn’t help but feel bad for the speedrunners halfway through

[@litaf4889]

Using items isn't skill

[@Skylark0000]

@@litaf4889 Why not? Speedrunning is by definition a test of skill and luck just like nuzlockes. It's just a different skillset.

[@Raviollius]

@@Skylark0000 the skill involved in speedrunning is merely input timing. Pokémon is a turn-based rpg. By using overleved mons and x-items, they remove all need for actually knowing battle mechanics. Which is how kids usually beat the games. Nuzlockers end up with deeper kowledge of the game's mechanics, as shown here. It's hilarious that a dude doing meme strats beat all 3 speedrunners

[@alexzander2211]

the format was nuzlockle. lose pokemon upon defeat. no items. no planning ahead, other than being lucky drafting pokemon you are allowed to use. when speedrunning is valued upon items and using the same pokemon, it falls flat on what can be deemed a fair and balanced tourney. the tourney wasnt about who was fastest, but rather - could a speedrunner win in the nuzlocklers turf. and they couldnt, which is all good. as long as the tourney is served as a nuzlockle favored tourney its all good. a speedrunning tourney would be fun to watch vs. 3 nuzlocklers. see who could beat it, the fastest. using items, using pokemons and keep using them even if fainted. i think limiting isnt speedrunner friendly. again would love to see a speedrunners vs nuzlockler tourney , using speedrun rules.