3 Things Christians Should Know About The Passion Translation

[@rocketmanshawn]

Mike Winger here on KZbin has a lot of content on this topic.

[@smh81786]

Mike is one of my favorite Pastor/Teachers! He's awesome!

[@Sorana44]

Thank you

[@juanitadudley4788]

Yep. Yesterday he just did a video on the Mirror Bible. He said it's the worst "translation" he's ever seen.

[@rickylimbu3668]

And Mike has some wrong information on this issue sorry

[@Y0u-R0ck]

Mike is pretty good with word stuff, but he is pretty bias with Bethel Church and TPT. I'll take all your blessings if you reject him though - Matthew 10:41 He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward. And he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward.

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

That sounds like the the devil masquerading as an Angel of light like Joseph Smith and Charles Taze Russell founders. 2 Corinthians 11:14

[@amanda8399]

The mormons say the same thing about their beloved Book of Mormon in that Joseph Smith had “special revelation” from “God”. They say the King James Version has been mistranslated and has lost “ many plain and precious truths”. Same devil messing with different easy target people.

[@5BBassist4Christ]

The Muslims also say the same thing about their beloved Quran in that Mohammad had "special revelation" from "Allah". They say the Jewish and Christian scriptures have been mistranslated and lost. There is also a sect called Hebrew Israelites. I don't know his name, but followers of this also claim the same thing about their beloved 12 Tribes Chart in that the founder had "special revelation" from "God", and that the "alleged" Jews are hiding this information.

[@BrotherDave80]

The Passion book is not a bible, it's a perversion of God's Holy Word.

[@gottacrushthis7556]

Dang it! I had hoped to be the first.

[@rockandsandapologetics7254]

If it's not an invention of Brian Simmons to justify the NAR movement, then it's a demonically channeled book. Take your pick.

[@Jeremyn_03]

@@rockandsandapologetics7254im not saying that i agree with simmons, but the NAR is just your word for people who believe there are apostles and prophets today. but what I say to you is that if apostles and prophets arent for today, why does paul give the office if both apostle and prophet?

[@kennethcava4488]

Any pastor who cites from the Message or Passion during a sermon raises a red flag the size of Texas!

[@gareth2736]

I really don't see a problem with the message as it is up front about being a paraphrase...no one should use it as a main bible and I wouldn't use it for memorising scripture either but it can give fresh insight on familiar passages and it doesn't claim to be something it isn't.

[@gareth2736]

@Sue Ling fresh insight isn't different though to truth....I mean fresh to me not novel to the Christian church. Commentaries are typically written by a single person treat the message as adding the same as a good commentary in terms of understanding and you will be fine....if it doesn't suit you that's fine to though. I generally just prefer reading a more regular translation but I can't see the harm in looking at a passage, especially a very familiar passage in the message from time to time.

[@elwoodblues9613]

The problem, and it's a crucial problem, is that the man who rewrote the New Testament and labeled it a translation claimed Divine inspiration for doing so, consulted no original transcripts, and puts it on the same plane as other translations and possibly higher. The Passion Translation reads more like a Charismatic commentary than a Bible. In contrast, Eugene Peterson was upfront that The Message is his paraphrase of the Bible, is meant for more casual reading, and is not to be used for serious Bible study.

[@rubymojo266]

Get up and leave that church!

[@qfranklin2777]

Bible says not to believe every spirit but test the spirit whether there be from God.

[@omarperez4010]

Beloved, do not believe every spirit [speaking through a self-proclaimed prophet]; instead test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets and teachers have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=1%20John%204:1&version=AMP

[@AMTattersall]

@@omarperez4010 I work in deliverance ministry and have known for years that this test “1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,” doesn’t work which goes against my belief in scripture. Earlier this year I asked God why and He said “Check out the Greek translation”. As I started looking in the concordance with these verses, I had the revelation that that Greek scriptures are are translation of the spoken word (usually Aramaic or Hebrew). When you repeat the test using Yeshua Hamaschiah instead of Jesus Christ 1John 4:2 actually works.

[@bufficliff8978]

Nah, bro. You're over complicating it. It's not a magic trick. The main reasons deliverances won't always work is because those being held captive rarely want freedom from it. The human will is complex and stronger than our thoughts. A person will often cognitively be aware that their oppression or possession is harming them and getting in the way of what they really want, but their will doesn't follow those thoughts; they like the demons they're with. You took so many leaps I'd only be able to sort everything out in person with LOTS of questions, so I'm addressing this to other people who stumble in here more than to you because I know everyone understands that yt comments aren't a worthwhile place to truly find understanding. The first time the people of God are instructed in how to discern wether or not a spirit or prophet is from God is in Deuteronomy: 1. Fulfillment of short-term prophecy 2. Complete accuracy and continuity with the scripture written before--God will never contradict Himself. Both things must be present for it to be a spirit from God or a prophet from God. If a man can't give a short term prophecy that's fulfilled then he's not from God, but spirits CAN work those miracles, so then everything that's said next must be 100% in line with scripture. If it deviates, or changes what was previously said, then we are to disregard everything they say because it's not from a spirit of God. This is the primary test that was referenced in John 4

[@bufficliff8978]

(I'm on mobile, accidentally hit reply, and can't go back to edit it) *1 John 4:1 It's a very precise test. Also, don't neglect that the verse says "...because many false prophets have gone out into the world." This section simply isn't about demonic possession; it's about recognizing false prophets and people who are masquerading as Christian leaders for the sake of power or influence. If someone denies Jesus Christ then they are in in the spirit of God but are of the same spirit of the antichrist who is to come. It's like if someone denies that the cardinals baseball team is superior to the Cubs baseball team, they're not from stl Missouri--they're from Chicago Illinois. It's not that if you think the Cubs are better you're exclusively on the Cubs team or being held prisoner by management and being forced to say that; you're just from their hometown. The passage is about not being deceived; it's not about how to deliver anyone from possession, so the verse doesn't apply to what you were trying to use it for, which is a better explanation of why it didn't work than your technical "mispronouncing" of Jesus' name. Demons know EXACTLY who you're talking about when you speak the name of Jesus. It's not a magic word where the inflection has to be perfect. The one you call upon holds the power, and they know EXACTLY who you're talking with. This passage is about recognizing and discerning false prophets just like the passage in (I believe) Deuteronomy 17, but I'm horrible with remembering numbers. What's the test? 1. Short term fulfilled prophecy 2. Complete accuracy to the scriptures we already have written and preserved for us.

[@bufficliff8978]

In fact, using that test is how we can discount the passion translation and the mirror translation without guilt or uncertainty

[@BethyTank]

Yikes!!!! Sounds like Joseph Smith and LDS

[@fnjesusfreak]

Exactly.

[@drobinson7372]

@Beth Tanksley: I was thinking about Sarah Young's [Jesus Calling] "special revelations" 🙄

[@fnjesusfreak]

​@@drobinson7372 I have considered the Jesus Calling series sacrilegious because she claims to be speaking as Jesus. But is she claiming special revelation, or does she understand it to just be pastiche (which is what it is)?

[@haileylindberg4365]

As an Ex Morman this is SO close to Joseph Smith Jrs experience on how and why he translated the bible in his own translation ( the Joseph Smith Translation) and the start of the LDS church/cult. I'm so thankful people are speaking up about this "translation "

[@fnjesusfreak]

It's quite the same. An angel named Passion, or an angel named Moroni, same difference.

[@karenboyd9752]

It's not a translation! It's the author's own personal commentary and that is dangerous.

[@clsmithent]

The Message Bible is Not a good translation either! Stick with the NIV, ASB, ESV. Also check out the NET Bible.

[@user-us9iw6rt7b]

Not even NIV if you can(not the worst), I would also add KJV and NKJV to your list

[@Janice-d-witnessing]

And the NASB is great. It's actually the most accurate word for word English translation currently. ESV is very close to it. I agree, the Message is a paraphrase, not a translation, and is also deeply problematic.

[@christshandmaiden]

@@user-us9iw6rt7b Yes, the NIV takes certain scriptures out. KJV is the go-to for me and I may use ESV or NASB occassionally.

[@tuppence144]

I think Eugene Peterson ( author of the Message) never claimed it to be a 'translation'. Just a message. At least he didnt add false doctrine to his message and never claimed to had heaven visitations, down loads and meetings with angels called Passion. Reading Proverbs in the Message is really a cool & fun message for especially teenagers. The ESV, NLT, NIV, NASB & NKJ to study and know the Truth.🌿💟

[@awesomefacepalm]

@@tuppence144 yeah Eugene said that he cringed when pastors used it as bibles.

[@annipanna]

My heart breaks for all the christians who are fallen victim to this translation. 😭

[@mannbradmusic]

It is heartbreaking indeed and when you mentioned the way those so-called Christians are currently falling for this, one particular passage that came to me was 2 Timothy 4:3-4, where we're warned by the apostle Paul that the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts they will raise up for themselves teachers, having itching ears and they will turn their ears away from the Truth and will turn to fables.

[@mannbradmusic]

Thank you for posting this and one thing I'd like to point out is when I heard what you had to say at the 4:59 mark, I was particularly reminded of Revelation 22:18, where we're warned that if any man adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this Book.

[@marriage4life893]

“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. Matthew 24:23‭-‬25 whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, I Peter 1:8 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. Deuteronomy 4:2

[@oophelia46]

I was at an NAR church that was promoting the Passion translation. I won't read it

[@J-PLeigh8409]

He had no business making this NAR version of Holy scripture. He probably added himself to scripture, even so beyond eisegesis, but I wouldnt know for sure bcus I will not ever read such scriptorture error myself, him & his fake trips to heavens library, ohh & Jesus happens to be the librarian. Sketchy is an understatement. Thanks for putting this out, hopefully it deters people from this "version"

[@jeffmcelroy5364]

Ive seen some of the passion translation with my own eyes and it reads exactly like those new agey Church Of The Almighty Oprah self help cook books. Not good and and completely deceiving

[@J-PLeigh8409]

@@jeffmcelroy5364 thats what I figured, Ive heard plenty about it & its unfortunately fitting for the NAR, Sid Roth crowd. Super unnecessary, but they love to put their goo on anybody they can deceive. They are clouds w/out water, carried about by the winds, late autumn trees w/ out fruit, twice dead pulled up by the roots

[@sarahd5341]

He got a download alright...from Satan “And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light” - 2 Corinthians 11:14

John 22 will say: if you add any chapters to The book of John you will be severely judged for that! lol

[@velkyn1]

funny how this poor god never actually does anything at all to these people who do such things. It's like this god doesn't even exist. And Christians have to claim that their god will "get around" to doing something in some mysterious future. Pity it can't get around to killing people right away like the bible claims.

@@velkyn1 Don't worry you will get the chance to see Him one day and He will do that which is right. Trust me

[@velkyn1]

@ yet one more Christian who claims that their god will return. How many millions of you have done the same thing over the last two thousand + years? All of you are failures with your sadistic little fantasies. So, no, dear, I don't trust you at all.

@@velkyn1 2Pe 3:3 knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. 2Pe 3:4 They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.”

[@velkyn1]

@ poor PJ. It's very easy to claim that any group will be made fun of because of their baseless claims, dear. So your nonsense from 2 Peter 3 is just one more bit of obvious that you have to cling to as a "real" prophecy since all of the others have failed. Those scoffers were around when the prophecies of Christians failed every time over the last 2000+ years. It would be nice to see that you at least believe in enough in your nonsense to actually stone the false prophets like Pat Robertson, etc. This god is a nutless wonder when it comes to taking care of false prophets like he supposedly did in the bible.

[@readthebiblewm]

Thats what Muhammad said

[@hannae3242]

I love this video Alisa! But please also research the dangers of “The Message”. There are some huge problems there that I would dare call heretical. Please don’t ever promote it, even as a commentary

[@NotFromTheGov]

🙏🏻100%👍🏻

[@laurabarner7258]

No kidding. The MSG is one to stay away from. You heard Alisa read that this sole author of the MSG was approved by this so-called theological scholar group. Give me a break. Go read the Our Father prayer in Matthew in the MSG and you will notice the language is the same as what Satanists use. Kid you not!

[@rockandsandapologetics7254]

The Passion is one of 2 Bibles I refuse to read, the other being The Message. I fear the author of the Message has some of the same abuses to translating text. For instance part of the Lord's Prayer in Matthew 6:10 in the MEV reads, "Your kingdom come; Your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven." The same verse in The Message reads, "Set the world right; Do what’s best-as above, so below." That last phrase, "as above, so below," is straight from the Emerald Tablet and occult literature refers back to this. Paraphrases always have their limitations. As a wise man once taught me, "A paraphrase only presents one point of view. A translation presents many points of view, making it the Living Word of God."

[@rockandsandapologetics7254]

@Clouseauish I agree, but would you believe I found a way worse translation? It's called the Mirror Translation. This guy basically wrote out the idea of sin, teaches a little god theory. It's really the pits.

[@tayh.6235]

I personally find the Message cheesy and unreadable, but my best friend struggles with reading and often reads it alongside a better translation like the NIV or ESV to help make sure she's understanding the passage. So it's not totally without it's use although it definitely leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

[@rockandsandapologetics7254]

@@tayh.6235 After reading excerpts of the Mirror Translation my advise would be to let your friend use the Message Bible to help over the tough spots, just be careful. There are other paraphrases she might find helpful at Biblegateway.com You might try the Phillips. It's pretty accurate and easy to read.

[@gareth2736]

Big difference with the Message, firstly Eugene Peterson is a good scholar, 2ndly it is fairly up front about bring a paraphrase. I think it's good to read alongside another more precise translation but not just on its own instead of a precise translation.

[@rockandsandapologetics7254]

@@gareth2736 I agree it can be useful, so long as used with a translation. When a pastor uses it as his sermon Bible, then we have a problem. There are just too many difficulties in the Message. At least it isn't spoken into existence like the Passion Translation.

[@lanbaode]

The Passion Translation is not the Word of God, it is the word of Brian Simmons!

[@Omegha94zip]

And whatever demons are posing as angels of light to influence him. Scary how often this is happening now.

[@Nowheregirl1973]

Anytime I hear someone say “I received a download” my discernment kicks into high gear.

[@sarahgear8744]

That's because you've never received one for yourself as father for one and he'll give it to you Matthew was left-sided brain as well ask him to activate you into the mind of Christ and not in your own mind. Open to him as he says in the song of Solomon. Come up here and he will show you Great and mighty things that you do not know. If you want it is available. Words with love... By your sister Sarah

[@annermelchor9565]

That is how the holy spirit act, is, work.

[@TwoTreesStudio]

@@sarahgear8744 If you're actually hearing "the voice of god" in your head, I would suggest seeing a doctor.

[@danielbright2916]

@@sarahgear8744 the passion is not such a download. He has made it up.

[@TheDoctor394]

Simply appearing on Sid Roth's show should be enough to destroy anyone's credibility.

[@VOLKHVORONOVICH]

Excellently done. I never even heard of this translation until yesterday when an acquaintance of mine mentioned he was using. I'd thought that most people in his church were using the NIV (there's problems enough with that without bringing in THIS heretical piece of drool). But I had no idea this fellow is following a path similar to Joseph Smith's. Too bad the author hasn't read Galatians 1:8-9 (or isn't aware (or willingly ignorant) of how closely it applies to him). "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."

[@mamboman2]

Galatians 1:8" But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we preached to you, let him be accursed."

[@carlosreira413]

Good work, sister Alisa. The Passion version is a free paraphrase, very free, not a "translation." To say that it is is either disingenuous or delusional. I suspect the second one. Here a brother claims to have received divine special revelation, which is now for sale! Thank you Bourgeois Jesus? Thank you Free Market Christ? I don't know what to say. Such a "translation" should be free of charge if it came from above. "Be not deceived. He who does righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous."

[@1amG1G1]

He received 'downloads'. Mediums use that term...just saying.

[@TreadingtheBorderlands]

It’s such a new age term. He could’ve said anything else yet he’s exposing himself

[@CaroleRubano]

I was at a prayer meeting,abd someone read out if The Passion, we all stopped and ask the person what was that? It was sooo different from our NKJV and KJV, I knew immediate ir was wrong!!! SO many added words, took away from the original what the Lord wanted us to know. Its trash, pkease compare it with NKJV, KJV, ESV NASV, you will definitely gave tour eyes opened!!! Thanks Alisa for warning the of God against this heretic and "so -called" Bible?

[@Strawby88]

I like to read the Bible in my native language (Danish) and then use 1 or 2 English versions for comparison, like the NASB, or NET :)

[@cryptojihadi265]

WELLLLL, if JESUS told him to write it, how DARE you speak against it, or you'll be speaking against the very Son of God! If people fall for this garbage they don't have a love for the Truth. Since Jesus IS the Truth, they are rejecting Jesus himself.

[@Sapphireprincess8]

It is not of God .its another gospe.where ever he was wasnt heaven ,whoever talked to him wasnt jesus . The best way you can find out if an evil spirit is around you. You speak the oldest parade language dies and I guarantee you all evil will flee , Because they hate THE HOLY SPIRIT language the DNA OF THE HOLY SPIRIT .they hate TONGUES .

[@michaelc.fischer2439]

This is very helpful Alisa. I do think since Mr. Simmons has said that “ Jesus transported him directly to heaven to receive downloads and that he will soon write the 22 chapter of the gospel of John. That the Passion book and Mr. Simmons should be avoided altogether. ✝️ 9:34

[@freddielee7591]

The MESSage is garbage too, Alisa.

[@deborahwood694]

I heard about this and came in search of the truth. My first clue was a monthly fee to join their "church" 😂🤣 PTL Jesus is free! "This guy just screams false prophet please follow me to hell" People, please run and spread the word that this is NOT the Word!!!

[@savvychipmunk2228]

I'm curious about translations into languages other than - how about that - English - and there should be NT into all languages of the Earth, what are they translated from ? Some of the NT is originally written in Aramaic. You have the Amplified Bible that gives all the possible meanings. It's easy to think how a committee would pick the best word out of several. Just thoughts here, since Simmons often describes sources of particular named manuscripts, and names other translation possibilities very specifically, with respect, and he states why he chose the words he did. Even if we have a different discernment. Is every English translation perfect ? Is every translation into other languages perfect ? I am glad that Simmons translated into several indigenous languages where he and wife were missionaries over decades, I am glad people groups have scripture and are now saved who otherwise would not hear the gospel because a committee was not available for them.

[@paulroloson1645]

It is great to know that the scholar of the NIV the allegedly non Christian inspired text.. can point at the same problems of word removal and that causes change in application, and meaning based on copyright infringement in preferential in text😅

[@deborahamburgey3692]

The Message is not a translation; it is a paraphrase. It has removed important words and has twisted verses. Do a comparative study. Best to use Bibles like the NASB and ESV which are Word-to-Word translations closest to original languages. The Message is one man’s own interpretation.

[@tayh.6235]

I personally don't like Message at all and find it unreadable, but it can be helpful for some people. My best friend isn't a strong reader and sometimes struggles with understanding a passage, so she'll often read the Message alongside a better translation.

[@tonipotterf8976]

King James textus receptus much more pure. Does not leave out Jesus name and whole verses. Also more readable and not copyrighted so no profits to publishers. Beware money hungry new paraphrases.

[@jeffedwards8195]

I used to be employed by a church where the Pastor and other people in leadership roles used TPT. I had to leave and find another church.

[@madelinavila2723]

why?

[@robinlewis3372]

This guy has really been decieved. That's what happens when you do NOT have the Spirit in you and are not a true convert. I mean scripture is clear. Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. He would have know that had he had the Spirit in him and had read his Bible. Its a shame as many people will fall victim because of this translation.

[@mjack3521]

Joseph Smith was commissioned to write The Book of Mormon.

[@Jesusmyhopeofglory]

I can’t believe that anyone would give this a thumbs down. Christian, do your research 🤔 Thanks Alisa, I actually bought a passion translation at an event last fall. It took a very short time for me to be uncomfortable by some of its passages and God certainly led me away from it quickly. I think it’s been recycled as a toilet seat by now 😂😂

[@ditasmotin9756]

Amazing how they twist the scripture base on there own preconcieve idea, there own theology, there own philosopy. This is the tràdition of man sound doctrine, and make merchandise of the Churchs of God. The foolishness of there heart the mouth speak, or if there heart is full of empty deciet. They lean on there own understanding out of ignorance of the scripture, they crept in unnotice among the churches of God who will read the word of God out of context. They speak flattering word of human carnal thinking. They make there own Jesus to entice many member of the churchs of God. They can make there own parable, and proverbs. there are many supporting verses of the scripture written by the prophets, and of the Apotles of Christ who are being being missenterpreted, some are being ignore out of ignorance. They have no idea if they are being disqualied, or forsaken by the Holy Spirit of God. If anyone preach to you a different gospel that you have not recieve from the writting of the Apostles of Christ, Let him be a curse. They establish there own righteoussness, and have not submmitted unto the righteoussness of the law of faith in Christ our Lord Jesus our Pastor, who is sitting at the right hand of the Father, who will judges His sheep at His right, and the goat at His left on judgesment day. Is the bible lacking of anything that you have not recieve it. Did God speak unto you.? Let the bible speak for itself. Sharing the good news of the bible is a noble task. You make sure what you are sharing is not a poisonn to the mind of the hearer. Faith comes from hearing, and hearing the word of God, and to obey all that was written in the book of life, or you will be found a lier. No wonder even satan can pretend an angel of light who decieve the woman first in the garden of eden. He will be save by child bearing for the coming of Christ to be a living sacrifice for our sin to distroy the works of satan at the cross, and to fullfil the law of Christ given by God the Father, because our currupt body cannot inherit the incurruptable body, which is the new Jerusalem, the new heaven, and the new earthly body. You cannot add, or subtract what was written in the book of life. Our faith is base on the wisdom of God, no man is wiser than the creator, no man is good, or righteouss. God do not revere man, or to be glorify. He who humble shall be your servant. We are all one sheep with one Pastor. We are all brother, and sister in Christ Jesus. These is My beloved Son whom I am please. If no one will depend the truth, many will believe a lie, and Satan is the father of all lies. These is the ministry of Satan. These is the passion of the charismatic movement. The foolisness of there heart the mouth speak. I hope you are enlightene of the truth. May God Bless.

[@matthewcraig8926]

I have regular KZbin account, not KZbin pro. So I can not see the thumbs down numbers on this channel. Regardless, I am surprised to hear about the thumbs down votes.

[@lindamusser7370]

Thank you! I was given the devotional book I Hear His Whispers (by Brian Simmons) by a dear Christian friend. I've read it every day for five months. It was hard to read. The verses that I'd memorized as a kid were unrecognizable. Everything is about love love love. Then I heard Mike Winger yesterday. No wonder it was so hard to read! I love your explanation and how you went through it point by point.

[@nancyyoung9799]

I am not saying that people cannot be as visited upon by the Lord God, but I am as always thinking sketchy something in my mind when I hear someone say the Lord visited me and they don't attach further authority oh to that statement. He as didn't say the oh Lord Jesus or the Lord God or what. He just said Lord. When Lord could mean anything to here anyone. Anyone could call anything Lord and they could mean what Lucifer or Satan or oh something. That guy is creepy. Too farfetched.

[@themastersvoice8636]

Good effort by you,dear . You are right,Satan uses high profile leaders to recommend corrupted translations and such ministers.Hence you are EXPOSING IT. 2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. 2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Jud 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

[@shineonbright1062]

God Bless you. My hub disappeared and apparently is silent because his old man is dead and he is with a passion group somewhere. I wanted to find realistic info on this book and you are very clear and honest. May these blasphemous books be bound and rebuked from all eyes and ears in Jesus name. Amen.

[@5BBassist4Christ]

Muhammad: Visited by Gabriel alone in a cave, told to write new scripture that contradicts the old, and thus declared himself a holy prophet. Joseph Smith: Visited by Gabriel alone in a cave, told to write new scripture that contradicts the old, and thus declared himself a holy prophet. Founder of Hebrew Israelites movement: Visited by an angel alone in an apartment, told to write new scripture that contradicts the old, and thus declared himself a holy prophet. Brian Simmons: Visited by Jesus alone in his room, told to write new scripture that contradicts the old, and thus declared himself a holy prophet. Maybe we should stop believing the lies of people claiming they received divine revelation in private and change the scripture and start believing in people who encountered God publicly, performed miracles to attest to their claims, lived upright lives, and confirmed previous established scripture like Moses, David, Isaiah, Daniel, Jeremiah, Jesus, and Paul.

[@DavidinMiami]

Brian Simmon is not only unqualified to translate the Scriptures, he comes across about as delusional as Joseph Smith. Dangerous heresy.

[@deborahruthtrotter2154]

Someone claiming divine inspiration and assistance with translation in putting together a dodgy take on scripture? Anybody else think of Mormonism when hearing this?

[@elmerfudd5738]

the "passion translation" is NOT a translation at all ! its a very poor paraphrase of God's Word by a heretical guy ... case closed.

[@rhondahamilton2474]

So if God cannot lie , him saying this shows us that he’s being entertained by devils .God is his word , but Brian’s word isn’t God. Satan it is then ….

[@martinkelsey275]

The very fact that church leaders are not speaking out against this travesty, demonstrates how far the apostasy has invaded even pervaded the church . They are not defending the true gospel they are not earnestly contending for the faith that was once delivered to the saints. The Message should never have been accepted this is so much worse!

[@thethrashpanda]

At the end of Revelation, it says that “Anyone whom adds on the words of the prophecies of this book, the LORD will add to him the plagues thus described. Anyone whom takes away from the words of this book, so his share will be cut from the Tree of Life.”

[@seanchaney3086]

Nearly every modern translation is guilty of this...

[@thethrashpanda]

@@seanchaney3086 except NASB

[@DavidWilberBlog]

Thanks for this video. Wow, this "translation" is complete junk!

[@laurakmetko5400]

Very helpful.video. can't say I am surprised by much these days. Seeing 'as above so below ' in the Lord's prayer..it was easy for me to see this ain't scripture . IPhone...iPad.. ipod...its like....ibible... That's all it seems to me. A self centred rendition coming straight from new age practises.. 'I was taken up to a library..outside my body " ? Self revelation ? It's all new age. Test the spirit behind a man's words people!

[@debbiepatten6264]

Thank you for this video. There so much false doctrine today. I was also reading the devotional, "I Hear His Whisper." It definitely makes you feel really good when reading it, but I knew everytime I read the scripture at the end of each one, my Spirit was pricked & Holy Spirit led me to read it in NKJ version. That's when i googled Brian Simmons & saw the reviews. Praise God for His Spirit that guides us in all Spirit & truth. We all need to be so close the the Lord that we can hear from Holy Spirit. I have never seen so many younger people who say they are a Christian, yet they still live the same un-transformed life. Either you love Father, Son & Holy Spirit, or you don't. There is no in the middle. If this pertains to anyone reading this, just know it breaks the heart of God. 😢❤

[@ericday4505]

The Passion translation sounds like a joke to me, most serious scholars think very little on it.

[@OEMFlores]

Lady you rock!

[@eddiediedericks535]

I recently withdrew from the church i used attend to because of this tpt bible. I rather not go to church than sit in a church getting mixed up with things like this.

[@itsspiritual8645]

That sounds like, what many consider to be a new-age, Jesus Calling books.

[@ross-harmonica]

I'm glad somebody is talking about this.

[@NB-no7lh]

I used to really struggle with reading the O.T. As a younger Christian, I found it boring and found myself hopelessly inept at deciphering any meaning the O.T. authors intended to convey. In some honest moments with GOD, I prayed for guidance and for the LORD’s help with this. In answering my prayers, He directed me to The Message. Through this wonderful paraphrase of the Bible that maintains its fidelity to the original languages the Bible was written in, the O.T. began to come alive for me, and I became intrigued with the historical books of the O.T. in particular. I continued using The Message for a few years before “graduating” to the NKJV. I have come to enjoy the NKJV more than any other translation, which is nothing more than a personal preference. Others may enjoy the ESV or prefer the NASB, and good for those brothers and sisters. When presented with The Passion Translation, something prevented me from getting into it. My pastor at the time and even another very mature brother whom I respected both loved The Passion Translation and liberally encouraged others to take it up. I just could not get into it; it was not for me. Logically, I think part of it was the fact that TPT existed only as a N.T. “translation” along with Psalms, Proverbs, and Song of Songs (I cannot speak to TPT as of today). I was not interested in taking up another “translation” that was only half a Bible. I now believe that GOD steered me away from TPT. I will go a step further and state that the popular Christian fiction series, “The Chosen”, also goes too far. Its writers are taking great license about real biblical people who did pivotal things, as documented in the Bible. To otherwise recreate their stories outside of the Bible goes too far, in my opinion. Despite many Christians raving to me about “The Chosen”, like TPT, I just cannot get into it. I’ve tried; I’ve even watched two whole episodes, concluding that I don’t like it; I don’t agree with it; and it’s not for me.

[@elainebender8822]

To those that feel praying and hoping that God will heal and deliver should look at your belief. Like anything else we have different beliefs goes to different churches and believe half of the Bible and put our traditions in its place. All you have to do is pray to the father and the zholy ghost will lead. We are to be kind to believers and unbeliers.. Jesus never put his month of criticism on anyone

[@laurasmentek1395]

I personally agree with you. I started watching The Chosen… then got the same feeling about it as you. Same with The Passion Translation. I want nothing to do with either of them for the same reasons you state here.

[@lindiharris-axon8167]

The Chosen doesn't claim to be totally according to scripture or a "video 'translation;" I take it for what it is and have enjoyed it.

[@jacquelineriser1353]

As we reread scripture the Holy Spirit reveals. I also had a journey to understanding and every time I reread scripture I find revelation by the Holy Spirit as promised by Christ

[@tonipotterf8976]

Agree! Not a translation. Paraphrase. So sad for the "author".

[@highlightning6693]

I have a very dear friend who seems to be caught up in a lot of this NAR stuff. She thinks very highly of Bethel church and Brian Johnson. When I talked to her about my strong concerns on this "Passion Translation" she responded by saying that she was sorry I was offended by it but it passes "the fruit test" for her. I'm 99% certain all she meant by "the fruit test" is that it made her feel good. She's also very caught up in working miracles (or attempting to), and I get the verrry strong impression that her and her girl friends are extremely influenced by dreams, impressions, and emotions and not so much by the Word. How do you talk to a fellow believer about the dangers of this book and this group?

[@immahuman9483]

Maybe you can ask her “tell me about your fruit test?” And when she answers, break out your bible right there and then and go to the scriptures describing fruit of the spirit, and ask her where that test is in the Bible. People love to go to “fruit” because it is a subjective measure rather than an objective one like God’s word, which is outside of ourselves. Then they can call the shots. Keep bringing her back to justify her position using the word of God and study to show yourself approved in the word as well. Take notes so you don’t forget. Deuteronomy 13 and 18 are good scriptures for this idea. Even if the fruit looks “good” (by the way, it looked good to Eve, too), if these prophets or teachers lead you after another god, the god of self, their message is not from God.

[@TedFarabee]

Show her videos of people that have escaped this trap. They can only be reached by people that were in it. It’s like the Mormons or LDS. Otherwise, take her to a morgue or hospital burn unit and say “Get to Work”. According to their beliefs God must heal on demand every time. How do they deal with the reality that they can’t do what they preach?

[@mikepasatieri502]

High Lightning - good question that I'm still searching for the short answer. There are experiences in the Christian life, thatis true, but we ought to seek Jesus, not an experience - which is what they are doing. Some want the experience so badly that they open themselves up to the occult (grave sucking, fire tunnels and so on) and call it a Holy Spirit event. This couldn't be further from the truth. They have turned these gifts and experiences into works (you aren't saved unless you speak in tongues and so on) and in doing so they have fallen from grace (Galatians 5) and many have become fill of pride. I know this because I've been ministring to people trying to come out of the hyper-charismatic movement and some will leave but few will be humble enough to question EVERYTHING they've ben taught and examine what they believe against the Word of God. In fact, many of them don't like studying the Word that much. The NAR is doing so much damage and God will hold them accountable.

[@tonipotterf8976]

Wow so blinded.

[@bioboi808]

The Bible already speaks on this: "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book." -- Revelations 22:18

[@carlafoss9248]

I’m sad to see that it is an option on the You Version app. People will be more easily deceived to use since it’s there... so sad. It’s obviously new age and deception.

[@wisewoman4950]

Yeah. I wish youversion would check that. So many more people I know are beginning to use it. Have been warning as much as possible. May the LORD help us.

[@alancherry6736]

Brian Simmons and Joseph smith really sound alike to me...

[@IAmisMaster]

1:50 The Message is also not a real translation.

[@Hannah-me3wu]

My thoughts too

[@carolberubee]

You're right. It's a paraphrase, at best.

[@woodb51]

But at least Eugene Peterson admitted that his was a paraphrase, Simmons admitted no such thing.

[@fnjesusfreak]

The Message doesn't claim to be a translation. And from what I understand, Peterson was absolutely horrified to find that people were *replacing* their Bibles with The Message, rather than *supplementing* them as he intended.

[@Gods_creation.His_harvest]

So you think “The Message” Paraphrased Translation is good????

[@coreychambersmusic]

One of the elements of a cult is that they have their own version of the Bible. The Passion translation is confirmation to the criticism that certain "sects" like Bethel have received for years.

[@TheShh1206]

Thank you so much for this video. I’m so thankful that God gave me the discernment to research what seemed like a harmless and helpful translation.

[@debracochran1826]

This is eerily similar to the heretic, “Joseph Smith”.

[@foundationshomefellowship]

What a great video thanks so much. This is helping my due diligence in this translation. The fact that they say that you'll fall more in love Jesus is concerning. The disciples heard His very words did not have this translation and yet where more in love with Jesus than many people are today. Shouldn't take a translation to cause us to fall in love with Jesus it should take faith and trust and what He has accomplished. The Gospel.

[@meudeusefiel9820]

Amen.

[@onlytruthmatters777]

The Message "bible" is questionable also.

[@vincentmeeks129]

I think the Passion Translation is a Trojan Horse.

[@melindamercier6811]

Oh dear goodness, more special revelation from Jesus? I’m not surprised by anything anymore these days. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@susanzumback7711]

This is great reporting,I look forward to each video lately especially with the seemingly fever pitch new age confusion in the present “church”.what about a vid on the popes civil union stance?if your led!

[@oakandiron_]

Well darn… another erroneous translation.

[@wadejnelson]

Good video!, as others have said Mike Winger also has a great video showing that Simmons inserts many concepts into his “ translation” that promote his brand of the faith. In addition he is called the “lead” translator which is just a euphemism for only!! Deceptive bordering on dishonesty

[@rubo5411]

You shall not add or take away from Gods word.

[@woodb51]

Apparently having a command of the biblical languages is not important to some people I have known for many years. If Joseph Smith could have heard Brian’s story I am sure he would be very envious.

[@olaniyiakindoyin]

What can we now say about AMPC translation?

[@TheCountofToulouse]

The death by a thousand cuts of a back sliding Christian starts when they make compromises in scripture that does not translate DIRECTLY from the original text. I notice that people that read from it are WORLDLY, PRIDEFUL, ARROGANT, SELFISH and SELF SEEKING, they have trouble with understanding LOVE and being perfected IN Love. They struggle with anger, discernment and forgiveness. They grasp hold of things that seem spiritual but because they are puffed up and selfish, they can no longer tell what is of GOD and what is not. They go through elaborate steps to defend their positions, they accuse others of things they are guilty of, condemn the believers from the pulpit, play the accuser and measure themselves from a hypocritical view.

[@fnjesusfreak]

His talk about an angel named "Passion" commissioning him, as another Christian KZbinr points out, along with his mass rewrites of Holy Writ, reminds me of the so-called "Inspired Version" produced by Joseph Smith and used for decades by the so-called "Community of Christ" (previously known as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints). The NWT is, at least, a *translation*, albeit an intentionally faulty one. This is just an abortion. It is toxic.

[@timothylondon75]

Well, we have many different kinds of translation already. Why do we have them? The scripture is shorter or longer yes it happens. Check Bibles in different languages. You will be shocked. Well, I only see that this charismatic translation of the TPT Bible bothers the anti-charismatic theologians. Get a life move on and read whatever you want. I do like KJV but don't like NKJ which is actually a perversion to my ears. So what? I won't make a warning video.

[@Rickey_Leevite_Insights]

The King James Bible was written by the Wicked, ungodly King James who believed in Ghost, and called The Awesome Godhead of The Holy Spirit, A Holy Ghost. A Ghost is a demon, an evil spirit. Yahweh is Transcendently above a demonic Ghost.

[@pauldavies1206]

Be Not deceived.Jesus warns us about this in Matthew24

[@NB-no7lh]

Childers falsely refers to the Bible as “perfect”, which it is not. Despite the Bible’s imperfection, it is still GOD’s authoritative words. In the same way that parents, while being imperfect, are no less the authority over our children. Even the very bloodline of Jesus is wrought with sin, incest, adultery, etc. Despite this fact, GOD has used His Son, Jesus, to do a might work on Earth for His Name’s sake. Childers’ assertion that the Bible is “perfect” strikes me as the pivotal misinterpretation of the lone passage in 1 Cor. 13:10 upon which the false doctrine of cessation is based. Much of the information that Childers has shed light on sounds credible, but let us not throw out the baby with the bath water. To espouse sectarian status to any church who might lay emphasis upon The Passion Translation is unwarranted. A vociferous warning alone shall satisfy. In short, ALL Christians should take heed and proceed with caution. That alone will suffice.

[@flowerchild777]

Thank you very much for this book review. I'm not familiar with it, but recently heard someone who used it and said, "It's doesn't matter which version you use" I've heard that before and vehemently disagree with this statement. I use kjv and if it has textual "weirdness" it's easy nowdays to sort it out. Blessings, Ang

[@prautes4316]

Jesus Christ doesn't need to say "I promise"! His words are ALL TRUE so to say I promise is crazy because He is truth, Jesus Christ doesn't lie and He doesn't need to say "I promise".

[@sharonlee2010]

TPT gives an EROS relationship with Jesus rather than an AGAPE relationship!! This is so wrong!!!

[@leonpope861]

🙏✝️🛡🛐🤲 for Brian Simmons. Why does Brian Simmons expect us to believe this. Can we just simply permit the HOLY SPIRIT to bring us the full counsel of GOD'S word. Why must there be so much sensationalism, pretentiousness, and pretense 👤🙈🗣🙉🙊👥💔. Ouch, my 🧠 hurts.

[@nobux717]

It's quite doubtful that Jesus would appear in front of someone and look like a spaced out California hippy from 1968 with long straggly hair and talks like a wimp. 3:20

[@hemalatham2003]

Why do these popular scriptural scholars disbelieve? Why do they find it difficult to accept Jesus visiting a chosen one and giving him an assignment? I have had visions and visitation and the Lord has interacted with me on so many occasions. Maybe Brian Simmons is telling the truth. By disbelieving in what Brian says aren’t these sceptical scholars disbelieving in Jesus? Aren’t they questioning Jesus himself? All these scholars need to do is keep it in prayer and ask the Holy Spirit himself whether the Passion Translation is truly the word of God or is it some twisted version of it? Let the Holy Spirit guide!

[@rubenoeschger5728]

Psalm 18 NIV 859 Words. Passion Bible 1286 words.

[@davidjohnson6538]

This man’s going to hell

[@tonipotterf8976]

Did Satan not question the very words of God? Yet any and every "new" bible is bigger and brighter! (Small case "bible" intended.)

[@oursimplesustainablelife8432]

I've looked at it and it's awful. Thanks for this video.

[@kimjesch7019]

Run from this man, flee. From the passion version . This is not a Bible it's some man's writtings

[@catemoon]

I wish the Lord would help me to read the Hebrew Tanach! I studied Hebrew over five years living in Israel and I still struggle. Stick with a reliable translation. This isn’t it.

[@vince2997]

The KJV is the closest translation (if now the original to Hebrew). Isn’t it funny how when we go to college, we read the material exactly as it’s given to us we don’t look for other translations we just do it, and we learned it the way that they want us to. However, when it comes to the Bible, we always have to find something “new“. The truth is, all these translations take out certain words, which completely change the meaning of scripture. Those without discernment, see it as just words, but when you take time to truly study the Bible, you see how different words can change the entire meaning of a message; yes, just one or two words can completely throw off everything