3 Things Narcs Do When They Can’t Manipulate You Any Longer 🫣

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Stephanie Lyn Coaching

Stephanie Lyn Coaching

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@angelinaesposito3058
@angelinaesposito3058 6 ай бұрын
" When they Cannot Control you, they Control how others View You"
@patricehoward9831
@patricehoward9831 6 ай бұрын
That's why Stephanie calls the strangers she enslaves "narcissists" for fucking years, and people support this psychopath.
@tiffany-sheriwageman.3702
@tiffany-sheriwageman.3702 6 ай бұрын
My mother
@godiseverything1482
@godiseverything1482 6 ай бұрын
​@@tiffany-sheriwageman.3702 My family
@AkropolisNo9
@AkropolisNo9 6 ай бұрын
fighthing this bullshit right now it's insane
@asiyadua9590
@asiyadua9590 6 ай бұрын
Isr@el 😂
@jorgerivera5757
@jorgerivera5757 5 ай бұрын
Quick 3 signs, they talk over you at times, they are never wrong, they can't apologize.
@RobertoCichetti
@RobertoCichetti 5 ай бұрын
really? im not that then
@kawiikittygamer7348
@kawiikittygamer7348 5 ай бұрын
Omg, this is so right. My husband does it all the time. Impossible to have a conversation with him. Always talk over me, doesn't listen what so ever
@mschlund1
@mschlund1 5 ай бұрын
Bingo, zero empathy
@jconklin86
@jconklin86 5 ай бұрын
At times… pshhhh… all the times! 😂
@KaselynStar
@KaselynStar 5 ай бұрын
yes yes yes yes, spot on. But even if they do apologize at any point, it is all for their own personal gain, nothing else.
@Clevelandsteamer324
@Clevelandsteamer324 6 ай бұрын
They will project all of their bad traits onto you and then call YOU crazy
@Kath26124
@Kath26124 6 ай бұрын
@PhilGehringer Same, I've been called by anything they could use. Even got to the point when one tell I'm normal.
@goodmorningsundaymorning4533
@goodmorningsundaymorning4533 5 ай бұрын
Yes! Then the screaming foaming at the mouth, entire eyes, even the white parts turn black, raging like a rabid animal. I've seen it. Evil vile ppl.
@SusanaXpeace2u
@SusanaXpeace2u 5 ай бұрын
yes, couple of videos about projective identification really helped me understand this process and identify that that is how my mother behaves.. my mother is so defensive and so sensitive and she has projected this onto me, ie, she can receive NO feedback. Ever. Not even a request that she stop labelling me! She gets to tell me who I am, but If i ask her to stop, she's the victim of me. It still hurts. But it's a little less crazy-making when you understand what's going on. She also projects the bespoke flaws onto me to disguise her impatience and lack of empathy. ie, i'm demanding and awkward or I'd emotional........ These labels aren't true but they perfectly disguise (to her) her own lack of empathy, patience and willingness to connect authentically with her own daughter.
@Yoshibelle615
@Yoshibelle615 5 ай бұрын
Because they’re trying to turn you into them and than become you it’s really sick they treat you how they want to treat themselves
@ceneciabryant8934
@ceneciabryant8934 5 ай бұрын
I was told I was a narcissist when I started putting boundaries in place 😂 he raged out on me and said I don't want you nigga!. All I said was "SAY LESS" AND BLOCKED HIM
@donnawheeler2195
@donnawheeler2195 6 ай бұрын
No contact is the only way to deal with narcissists.
@JF32304
@JF32304 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely zero contact! ZERO!!
@unknownsender6852
@unknownsender6852 5 ай бұрын
Just be aware that the bully-victim narc will make the case that YOU'RE the narc and you're doling out silent treatment.. Exhausting
@thecommentlounge
@thecommentlounge 5 ай бұрын
​@@unknownsender6852The Narc is already on a smear campaign long before you go no contact. The key is to not care because anyone who believes the Narc can get cutt off also. It's amazing how people will believe the Narc when they are codependents of them. I say they can take care of each other since they are so enmeshed together anyway. Good riddance!
@nadineelizabeth195
@nadineelizabeth195 5 ай бұрын
I've gone no contact but i still feel that they are attached to me it's weird
@JF32304
@JF32304 5 ай бұрын
@@nadineelizabeth195 who is this person, A family member or former lover?
@RD12349
@RD12349 6 ай бұрын
They hate when you ignore them and hang with new happy people. Avoid needy ones, clingy, victim mentality, high maintenance, me me me - go with happy go lucky, positive & grateful for small things individuals. Your life will be so much happier. Practice it yourself as well.
@patricehoward9831
@patricehoward9831 6 ай бұрын
Stephanie has preyed on strangers, violated, exploited, targeted, defamed, stalked, and enslaved strangers she calls "narcissists" for years to build her platform. She needs to be held accountable.
@clintlandrum9498
@clintlandrum9498 6 ай бұрын
Patricehoward, I'm sure you have proof of what Stephanie has done because I cant imagine you would ever provide us with a baseless complaint. So you should take the lead in holding her accountable. You have the proof, and you have issued the complaint, so you take the lead. I cant wait.
@randy_cbc8811
@randy_cbc8811 6 ай бұрын
@@patricehoward9831 I've never noticed her 'defaming' anyone myself.
@lookupyourredemptiondrawsn7285
@lookupyourredemptiondrawsn7285 6 ай бұрын
​@@patricehoward9831😂😂😂😂😂
@dakoderii4221
@dakoderii4221 6 ай бұрын
Be wary of the toxic positivity. You can almost just die in a wreck or something and they will say "Well you just gotta be pos-i-tive!" They are usually the enablers of the narcs. Everything is puppy dogs and rainbows to them except for not going along to get along. They hate that. They believe that if everyone would just comply with the narcs demands then there will be peace.
@travismaxwell9805
@travismaxwell9805 5 ай бұрын
Once you realize you are dealing with a narcissist, leave. Don’t waste a minute.
@Onein6billion72
@Onein6billion72 5 ай бұрын
❤💯
@meme-zv7kw
@meme-zv7kw 5 ай бұрын
A second
@soostdijk
@soostdijk 5 ай бұрын
That ‘s a bit too easy said, it might be close family. They are damaged persons that go into survival mode very quickly. Remember these three things: 1. Say something friendly before giving comments so they feel safe (else the other steps wont work). 2. Communicate very clearly, 3) Don’t let them cross your limits. Be clear and hold your selfrespect. Like: “Hey honey, I love you but shut up now”. “I like contact with you but not if you scold me” (and move out if it does not stop).
@robinm.1961
@robinm.1961 4 ай бұрын
Easy for you to say. My sister is such a narcissist. I don't have enough money to get my own apartment. I'm disabled. No help in this crap state in the South.
@meme-zv7kw
@meme-zv7kw 4 ай бұрын
@@robinm.1961 🙏
@I-Am-Prosperous-I-Am-Grateful
@I-Am-Prosperous-I-Am-Grateful 5 ай бұрын
🎯 Narcissist = your pain is their joy, your joy is their pain.
@youreworthyourweightinavoc7189
@youreworthyourweightinavoc7189 4 ай бұрын
100%
@saif9amar417
@saif9amar417 4 ай бұрын
Well said. Period.
@babycakes8434
@babycakes8434 3 ай бұрын
That would be a FRENEMY.
@osayomoreholy7455
@osayomoreholy7455 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@isaiahaskew5753
@isaiahaskew5753 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Cooper.1313
@Cooper.1313 6 ай бұрын
Being with a Narcissist is a constant state of confusion. It's them spending your savings and being mad because you're broke. You'll go in with everything and leave with nothing. Best thing to do is run away
@WalksfortheSoul77
@WalksfortheSoul77 6 ай бұрын
Yep!
@user-q992
@user-q992 5 ай бұрын
I have run away! Having a great time with new friends in a hot country🎉 Best thing is he can't manipulate these friends against me. Such a nice feel to be on 8 months holiday when the narc has to work every day and come back to an empty house🏠 Doing all the cooking, cleaning, shopping etc all by himself and staring at the four walls and ceiling wondering why everyone has left him. Beautiful✨
@lijohnyoutube101
@lijohnyoutube101 5 ай бұрын
Exactly go in with everything and come out with nothing!!!
@soicybunny
@soicybunny 5 ай бұрын
Damn soooo true. Second chance? It will just repeat or get worse.
@ekquinn7059
@ekquinn7059 5 ай бұрын
RUN away... I cant scream this loud enough. It's painful, sad & horrible but you gotta save yourself.... Because the narcissist, his flying monkies and everyone he's poisoned against you, won't. 💗
@loglan5150
@loglan5150 6 ай бұрын
My narc never apologized & never once put blame on himself in any & all arguments we ever had. He just gaslit me so hard that I would come back thinking it really was my fault. They’re evil incarnate.
@syzygy4365
@syzygy4365 5 ай бұрын
YEP! The rabbit hole goes so deep. It takes maturity to grow and shadow work to make sure you yourself heal.
@Luna-ky3jl
@Luna-ky3jl 5 ай бұрын
I feel it..
@katiedinkel1681
@katiedinkel1681 5 ай бұрын
@@caffacaffIf you are wondering if they are a narcissist, they probably are a narcissist. How they react to your concerns will tell you everything!
@susanjames4235
@susanjames4235 5 ай бұрын
They are completely insidious.
@susanjames4235
@susanjames4235 5 ай бұрын
Red flags!!
@deebee4622
@deebee4622 6 ай бұрын
Their behavior worsens as they age; they become more jealous and callous and double their efforts to control and seek revenge. I thank God for opening my eyes, helping me get away from a toxic relationship, and for finding your channel. Thank you for sharing your wisdom, peace is priceless!
@jlcmsw
@jlcmsw 6 ай бұрын
This is my mother. I’ve gone no contact with her, but she still stalks me with letters and showing up at my house unannounced. She was banging on my door and on several windows in my house. She was talking about how hard her life is because her car tire keeps losing pressure. She was obviously desperate for attention. She’s 78 and even more dangerous than ever.
@kellecetraro4807
@kellecetraro4807 6 ай бұрын
My mom was really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really bad, but I have to be honest she's actually mellowed out significantly like night and day as she's gotten older. Don't get me wrong there's a glimpses 😂 but night and day.
@BAsed_AFro
@BAsed_AFro 6 ай бұрын
"Weak people revenge. Strong people forgive. Intelligent People Ignore." - Albert Einstein
@kellecetraro4807
@kellecetraro4807 6 ай бұрын
@@BAsed_AFro 🥱
@Nothankyouhun
@Nothankyouhun 6 ай бұрын
Fucking great 😑 they get worse
@Xenaphone1
@Xenaphone1 6 ай бұрын
For anyone still suffering through the trauma bond breakup, just know it gets better. You will find yourself again and you will be happy. It took me a year, but I am far better than I was before.
@tingeling4443
@tingeling4443 6 ай бұрын
🌸🌸🌸
@vickit3124
@vickit3124 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I needed to hear that 💐
@joanbaczek2575
@joanbaczek2575 5 ай бұрын
It’s been 2 years for me I’m still feeling like crap
@SquishyGrayMatter
@SquishyGrayMatter 4 ай бұрын
@@joanbaczek2575that terrifies me😢
@jeskahaley9616
@jeskahaley9616 4 ай бұрын
Four years of being apart from them. Still hard and sucky and confusing
@Aochic
@Aochic 6 ай бұрын
When you don't care so much that you skip these videos, you have won!!!
@yvetteandjorgenlarsen9753
@yvetteandjorgenlarsen9753 5 ай бұрын
Wow, I was just thinking that I don't need to watch any more videos describing the ins and outs of narcissism because I have gotten the education I needed. Besides, this is one of the worst videos I've ever tried to listen to.
@omvendtslev
@omvendtslev 5 ай бұрын
@@yvetteandjorgenlarsen9753 Ha ha see seems absent.....but the words are realy good
@omvendtslev
@omvendtslev 5 ай бұрын
Thats nice...I was more after the comments =)
@samsquanch1996
@samsquanch1996 5 ай бұрын
You clearly didn't skip this video though....
@Aochic
@Aochic 5 ай бұрын
Actually watched for about 15 seconds when i realized "I really don't care"
@Burbankelly
@Burbankelly 6 ай бұрын
Be thankful…very, very thankful when they ghost you! It's a gift and a blessing - run with it! DO NOT seek “closure”! Ghosting IS closure!
@Yo-yo-dt5ze
@Yo-yo-dt5ze 6 ай бұрын
This….. he ghosted me after he asked me for money and I haven’t heard from him in a month I didn’t even bother to text him for closure because he already hurt me I can never trust again I’m glad he did what he did now I can begin healing after 5 yrs
@JF32304
@JF32304 6 ай бұрын
Amen!
@goodmorningsundaymorning4533
@goodmorningsundaymorning4533 5 ай бұрын
Keeping the ghosting permanent. That is your closure.
@yvetteandjorgenlarsen9753
@yvetteandjorgenlarsen9753 5 ай бұрын
AMEN! YES!
@MeettheCreatives
@MeettheCreatives 5 ай бұрын
i needed to hear this for real lol
@a.wilcox5690
@a.wilcox5690 6 ай бұрын
I did develop PTSD from this. My husband of 32 years started going into rages and emotionally attacking me. I had started setting boundaries and refused to be manipulated and treated poorly. I am so grateful the marriage ended. I feel more of a sense of peace and contentment now. I have learned to love myself. He has turned others against me so he can look good. I know that I am a good person and I will no longer be manipulated.
@TheSeaOfAsher
@TheSeaOfAsher 6 ай бұрын
Boundaries are important. Also safe-spaces. Space creates a distance from a to b and helps you heal away from their inflicted pain. They break boundaries all the time. I'm not a psychologist so it was hard for me to tell I was being abused until everything was gone. I had a lot of good going for me and it disappeared because I was around them too long. That's will happen if you don't detect their abuse soon. It's so subtle.
@julies2814
@julies2814 6 ай бұрын
I developed PTSD as well. I've been stuck in a one-sided marriage for 42+ years. I started laying down and enforcing my personal boundaries. When he tries to enforce, bully, manipulate or guilt me when I REFUSE to compromise and bend to HIS will, I flat out tell him I will NOT disrespect myself, my integrity, my conscience nor my soul, and he can take it or leave it. And then I stand my ground. He pouts, but he's learning that having a temper tantrum only strengthens my resolve. I no longer care how he or anyone else he's related to think of me. The opinions they want to form of me is only a reflection of them, and its NEVER been about me, but it's the twisted minds THEY have. Birds of a feather flock together. And if that's how others want to perceive me, then I have no use for them either and I don't want them in my life because they've proven they are unworthy of me. I only care about what "I" think of myself and what's good for ME. At almost 62yrs of age I've FINALLY learned! ❤❤❤
@Hummingbird64
@Hummingbird64 6 ай бұрын
You have described my life . I divorced him after 28 years . Smeared me so bad I moved a state away to avoid negative people and his stalking me .
@PrettyMamaPatchwork
@PrettyMamaPatchwork 6 ай бұрын
Same thing is happening to me. My older sister is very envious of me and everything I have accomplished. She's started a smear campaign but not being successful because most people know me in this small town and knows my family has"Issues". She is a toddler in a adult body.
@jenifernadeau
@jenifernadeau 6 ай бұрын
Good for you! It's all about the inner child healing, and doing our own shadow work to love the parts of ourselves that we were programmed to believe we were unlovable... and keeping the focus on enhancing ourselves and daily self-care and following our own passions first and foremost, because we unconsciously attracted jobs and bosses and friends and partners that are representing the unhealthy parts of our childhood caregivers, and what we had to tolerate as children from parental abuses of authority that we didn't want to see clearly and that we made excuses for... and we end up in a "fawning" response to trauma which is people pleasing behaviors ...we must focus on the childhood wounding and emotional neglect that we didn't even know we experienced. You might like the channel -the Holistic psychologist.. she explains quite well how children take on belief systems and behaviors and we all get fragmented before the age of seven in a toxic and dysfunctional household that we don't even know is dysfunctional, because it's all we know. We are energetic beings❤ that will attract the same frequency that our bodies are familiar / comfortable with, for example, if we have a poor sense of self value and worth, we will attract a narcissist who also has that.. they just put on a show for the world in a different way and have a strong but toxic sense of self, and they are in our lives to help us develop a healthy😊 strong sense of self and inner foundation. Gratefulness for the experiences with them can happen when we realize we would have never learned our worth and value and strength and resilience if we did not have experiences with them. The universe gives us what we need, not what we want. It takes what it takes to teach us who we are and how precious and amazing and worthy and valuable we are but none of that comes from the world or parents or family or anyone else, not licenses or accolades or awards..... it has always only been within but as children we searched externally to be seen and heard and validated, so we carry that subconscious program into adulthood❤
@davidhynd4435
@davidhynd4435 6 ай бұрын
"This is not easy stuff to go through." Understatement of the century.
@qubex
@qubex 6 ай бұрын
I experienced the discard rage more than a year ago and I still don't know how to get over it.
@lela888
@lela888 6 ай бұрын
It’s mental torture!
@jerryvandevort2366
@jerryvandevort2366 6 ай бұрын
​@qubex success and moving on is the best revenge. Just remember the time you spent in that relationship is over. Try to realize how you fell into that hole/trap s it doesn't happen again.
@fitlife1205
@fitlife1205 5 ай бұрын
Weirdest shit ever!!
@Savvynomad225
@Savvynomad225 6 ай бұрын
Never have kids with a narcissistic/bpd person, or if you do be sure you get custody of the kids. When everything goes downhill, and they realize they can’t control you, the kid(s) become a pawn to control you.
@Savvynomad225
@Savvynomad225 5 ай бұрын
@@MiniPlayzMinecraft they can co-occur and are both cluster B ego-syntonic personality disorders. A person with NPD/BPD will not seek treatment but instead triangulate against you for suggesting it and you’ll be tagged with a lifelong vendetta if you decide to preserve yourself and your sanity and create boundaries and end the relationship.
@user-ov4wr5yu4r
@user-ov4wr5yu4r 5 ай бұрын
Not everyone realized until after kids were born.
@jws3925
@jws3925 5 ай бұрын
They were even before the divorce.
@ivankrushensky
@ivankrushensky 5 ай бұрын
@@ets5697 100% on the money here.... this sounds exactly like my wife's ex situation. How dare she leave him? There is no winning in the situation- no matter the custody arrangement. He will not leave her alone and uses his/her son as a tool to try to manipulate any way he can- as in, the child is now sent with the task of telling us how we must run our household and "we're going to Hell if we don't listen to his Dad's Biblical wisdom...." No joke. There is no winning. All you can do is hope the blinders come off someday and be there if/when they do.
@msphil4life
@msphil4life 5 ай бұрын
Truth!!!!
@shekar222
@shekar222 6 ай бұрын
The most difficult manipulators are those who are always kind and go over and beyond to help out. However, in return, they want all of your time and a short leash on all your activities and the people in your life.
@ceasarwright7567
@ceasarwright7567 6 ай бұрын
​@@Yo-yo-dt5zeOriginal poster said those who help are the narcs.
@frankclark4709
@frankclark4709 5 ай бұрын
Yup
@Ame-sens-ible
@Ame-sens-ible 5 ай бұрын
Yes, like they do everything to look good. They will play « the healthy and caring ». They do all what you want, there is never a problem… everything is under control all the time.
@ceasarwright7567
@ceasarwright7567 5 ай бұрын
@@Ame-sens-ible or maybe they are nice and others just use them and want to give nothing in return
@Ame-sens-ible
@Ame-sens-ible 5 ай бұрын
@@ceasarwright7567 Giving more than what you can give to someone that don’t ask so much is also manipulation
@kimbeck4194
@kimbeck4194 5 ай бұрын
This is why, when you start to see the abuse, you actually start questioning whether you are the narcissist!! Because you become angry about the abuse, you become reactive when you start to see it and they will blame you and show you all the ways you’re the one to blame. This is 100%, you’ve got to handle this relationship like a business transaction.
@soultaker991
@soultaker991 5 ай бұрын
I'm actually facing this right now. She made me feel as though I'm the cause.
@bluoval3481
@bluoval3481 5 ай бұрын
@@soultaker991 Complete lack of concern for their own behavior. Which means they want zero accountability and will do all possible to avoid it. Been there, done that!
@mjolnirswrath23
@mjolnirswrath23 2 ай бұрын
Yep
@KevinLife-xv2hh
@KevinLife-xv2hh Ай бұрын
Omg! I was married 25 years and now divorced. She could have manipulated Yoda. You are spot on for what I went through. She just kept pushing the buttons to the point of me wanting to end my life.
@Burbankelly
@Burbankelly 6 ай бұрын
Their drive to get a highly emotional response out of you is supply! Do not give it to them!
@Dragonfly_magictarot
@Dragonfly_magictarot 6 ай бұрын
This ! It almost seemed like he wanted me to cry like he wanted me to feel bad … for bullshit. He wanted me to beg him or something..
@destinybound1988
@destinybound1988 5 ай бұрын
It is hard when it is in laws trying to use your marriage for their advantage, but then say you are crazy and they didn’t do anything.
@Burbankelly
@Burbankelly 5 ай бұрын
@@destinybound1988 I know it goes against the empathetic persons inner code but try it! It's actually fun and so cathartic to go Gray Rock on them! Rocks are boring, and unresponsive! Be The Gray Rock! It's a blast robbing them of their supply! It baffles and dumbfounded them!
@sladjanailic2294
@sladjanailic2294 5 ай бұрын
👏👏
@DrewClark-ov5up
@DrewClark-ov5up 5 ай бұрын
And when you don’t, be ready to be accused of abandoning them, being emotionally unavailable, withdrawing, etc
@Burbankelly
@Burbankelly 6 ай бұрын
You were supply. Supply is the only thing that makes them not feel dead inside. When they feel their supply waking up, gaining understanding, and slipping away, their fear, and subsequent anger rages inside, and will manifest in various terrible and Hellish ways!
@Drunkpunch33
@Drunkpunch33 2 ай бұрын
They can have those hellish ways by themselves when we hit the block button on them and block them out our life’s for good
@justrosy5
@justrosy5 5 ай бұрын
Step 1: Don't care what they think, feel, say, do, or want. Step 2: Don't react. Step 3: Do what you were already doing or going to do, and don't base it on anything having to do with them. Step 4: Work towards and gain financial and social independence, get therapy, and don't discuss any of it with them. Step 5: Leave, block, change contact info/move, and go "No Contact" where possible. If that's not possible, be bored with them, don't give them any information, and don't confide in people who know them. Step 6: Focus on living your own life as you see fit, and get to know better people when possible.
@glendamutti1539
@glendamutti1539 2 ай бұрын
How about if you have kids with them what do you do because his torturing me I don't wanna see him at all but my older who is 8 wants to talk to him and see him and I still get to see his face.
@KjJoe-ty3ie
@KjJoe-ty3ie 2 ай бұрын
@@glendamutti1539dont react to whatever they do . There is some technics like gray rock . Gray rock means be unbothered dont react emotionally to whatever they say or do , just see him as a child in a mans body BC narcs are basically chilidish people with angry issues with no remorse so just threat him like that . For your daughter Search for some psychological specialist in case her father try to smear you .
@taliajournee212
@taliajournee212 6 ай бұрын
I agree with everything except the silent treatment. Sometimes silence is the best approach. By removing them from your social circle you are setting yourself free. I personally can't pretend to act as things are normal when they are acting like a psycho. The silent treatment is not about them, it's about me finding peace.
@Liz-wz8dh
@Liz-wz8dh 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. Silence is best sometimes.
@ocaptainnc
@ocaptainnc 6 ай бұрын
It’s called grey-rocking, or yellow-rocking… been a very effective technique in my recovery… Godspeed….
@mariah3654
@mariah3654 5 ай бұрын
Greyrocking is different from stonewalling or silent treatment. The difference is there's still communication but no emotional reaction, simply being as interesting and responsive as a grey rock.
@gachapotatocookie2309
@gachapotatocookie2309 5 ай бұрын
I think it’s also different because silent treatment is a manipulation and you’re wanting a certain outcome but no contact or grey rock is so you can set a boundary from the abuse or get completely away from it. You don’t actually want anything from them like they do when they use the silent treatment.
@jakeforder9435
@jakeforder9435 5 ай бұрын
Silent treatment is emotional abuse. There is no excuse for such emotionally immature behaviour. Avoidance and not communicating are manipulative actions and can be extremely damaging to a relationship. If somebody isn't willing to negotiate or be self-reflective, or even have the common courtesy to reply, they are not worth bothering with
@melanieheckler1773
@melanieheckler1773 6 ай бұрын
My mom has done this to me for as long as I can remember. I've had "friends" and boyfriends who have done this to me as well. I'm 48 now, and tend to isolate in order to heal, and am much more discerning about who I let into my life.
@Puppylove82-gv3gm
@Puppylove82-gv3gm 6 ай бұрын
My mom and brother! Then I get married and my father inlaw too!!!! I can't get away! We keep them at such a distance it's not even funny. My hair was falling out at one point! I had to do something so I chose therapy to help me grasp this mess and learn how to set boundaries and say NO!
@katiedinkel1681
@katiedinkel1681 5 ай бұрын
Be careful about isolating while you heal because you can lose connection to good influences and that’s what the narc wants for you!!!
@alguedemer
@alguedemer 5 ай бұрын
Same here. I stopped seeing my mum. She doesn't even question herself...
@Healingagain4
@Healingagain4 5 ай бұрын
@@katiedinkel1681wow… great advice! I totally isolated and he (the narc) loves it. It gives him even more control. It’s so disturbing what these people do to your psyche
@Healingagain4
@Healingagain4 5 ай бұрын
Love your videos!!! Thank you so much!!❤❤
@dwaynedixon7138
@dwaynedixon7138 5 ай бұрын
Narcissists will make you believe that you are the crazy one. Yikes
@thirstonhowellthebird
@thirstonhowellthebird 6 ай бұрын
My older sister did this all to me from the time I was probably four years old. She literally went into kindergarten, grade school, high school trashing me to any and everyone who will listen. She destroyed my chance for long-term friendships because of the lies she told and the fact that people believed her. These people are evil. They are so evil. I guess I’m kind of grateful because I realize now that anyone who can be swayed by gossip, isn’t someone I would want to be friends with. I would never in 1 million years not be friends with someone because of gossip I hear about them. I would want to find out more about that person and gossip would even probably make me more intrigued to get to know that person to see if they are in fact lining up with rumors. It’s so weird how easily people can be swayed by gossip and the smear campaign.
@Unpopularity
@Unpopularity 6 ай бұрын
It wasn't a gift and you know it. There is no silver lining. They weren't swayed by regular gossip, but rather by a supposed trusted family witness' testimony about a stranger. You were robbed and there is no "God" who fixed it, stopped it, or cared. I know you tell yourself brightsides to cope. You were violently destroyed. It happened. It's real. No "well, but". Humans have a violent religious-splaining toxic positive commitment to the so-called "loving spirit". It is evil. There is no holy spirit; you were robbed. No gratitude is required. No god stepped in to stop the murder and assault from a violent sibling destroying your life and future, which is murder. Face reality
@tiffany-sheriwageman.3702
@tiffany-sheriwageman.3702 6 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for your pain.
@annastone5624
@annastone5624 6 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry you went through that. I feel the same the problem with gossip though, if often people don’t realise it’s gossip. I recently was shocked to find someone I trusted was completely two faced and I now realise I can trust nothing they told me. About some guy owing him money, about another person being ‘great’ The way I look at it is some people are evil absolutely and this is just not talked about enough!! But not everyone is deliberately supporting them, they just don’t know yet.. but I do believe a persons true colours always comes out.. eventually.. Well done on surviving this! 🌸
@joseenoel8093
@joseenoel8093 6 ай бұрын
People see what they want to see and mostly they're the crap but would rather not reflect, they're a lynch mob, my sister's an older overt coke head sis, 6 yrs older I had nothing to do with her upbringing, tried to help her with her kids after her 1st divorce and such but unappreciated and taken advantage of, of course, now she's 70 and I can't believe she's still alive, chain smoking 🚬 for over 5.5 decades, they've the devil 😈 to pay, I wonder how many nice smart people my family scared away....
@jamnoise72
@jamnoise72 6 ай бұрын
Fk them! They side with the bully they are cowards! You better off without as you say!!❤
@CreativeCCookies
@CreativeCCookies 5 ай бұрын
They play victim and then demand that you apologize and pay more attention to them.
@JoyHarrison
@JoyHarrison 3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@mois9555
@mois9555 6 ай бұрын
I don't feel sorry for them at all, not anymore.
@DeRussellMasina
@DeRussellMasina 5 ай бұрын
That's the point I'm at
@osayomoreholy7455
@osayomoreholy7455 3 ай бұрын
They always seek for pity but I don't have pity for him anymore
@hellswindstaff91
@hellswindstaff91 Ай бұрын
Exactly fuck em can't stand em anymore
@anabellaparis1
@anabellaparis1 6 ай бұрын
I told him I don't respect him any more and I see his real personality. I believe he's a vulnerable narcissist. He just closes like an oyster and doesn't speak. When I confront him about certain things he lied and cheated about, he gets mad. Then again sad and closed and gives me the silent treatment. It's exhausting. He blames his parents, his life, it's never his fault.
@samscarletta7433
@samscarletta7433 6 ай бұрын
Yep! They are sooo predictable 🥴
@jasonb9152
@jasonb9152 5 ай бұрын
You mean a covert narcissist.
@anabellaparis1
@anabellaparis1 5 ай бұрын
@@jasonb9152 there's a difference between a covert and vulnerable narc according to Dr Ramani
@alguedemer
@alguedemer 5 ай бұрын
I've just left someone similar. The silent treatment is horrendous. Good riddance.
@diamondedevil
@diamondedevil 5 ай бұрын
dont tell him anything else, just ghost the fuck outta him no contact and protect yrself
@haroldcravens5927
@haroldcravens5927 6 ай бұрын
Every conversation I've had with her turns into her being the victim and me being the problem.
@clintonnagy1662
@clintonnagy1662 6 ай бұрын
You had a conversation with them? How did you manage to get words in?
@BAsed_AFro
@BAsed_AFro 6 ай бұрын
That's because they have to project their anger, shame, pain onto others due to their flat out refusal to deal with and process their own childhood trauma junk.
@scottoz7891
@scottoz7891 5 ай бұрын
Well said ❤
@fitlife1205
@fitlife1205 5 ай бұрын
EVERY!!
@ladybugred5641
@ladybugred5641 3 ай бұрын
Yep
@IrmaQP-zk1ni
@IrmaQP-zk1ni 6 ай бұрын
Thank you JESUS, 4 removing narcissistic, wrong people out of my life & sending the right, godly people. Thanks Stephanie, 4 this important information. GOD bless you!
@marieeva7418
@marieeva7418 5 ай бұрын
God bless you as well! God saved me too!!!!❤
@IrmaQP-zk1ni
@IrmaQP-zk1ni 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, great! Thank you, JESUS, 4 new beginnings, divine connections!
@cklg88
@cklg88 6 ай бұрын
I just finished with a narc boss as a parttime caretaker. She was mean, insulting, disrespectful, covert in all of them. When ever I set my boundaries she got worse and she would pretend to be nice to see if she could manipulate me (my answer became a stronger NO). I literally would do my job and grab my stuff and sing "by" as I was closing the door behind me not even waiting for a response. The stronger my boundaries the nastier she got. Well, it's all over she went into the hospital a week ago and died and the first thing I thought was "thank God and good ridens". I learned a lot from her I knew she was toxic from go and slowly my boundaries got stronger, which made her even more angry. She literally would try purposely to say things directly she knew would hurt me. She hated that I was smart, she hated that I was pretty and would try and cut me down then appologize and say I'm just kidding. It got less when I started calling her out on her shit and she hated it. I would enter the house and just fake it and my PTSD would set in with naseua and leave with PTSD heart palpatations, and sit in my car and cry all the time because she was that toxic. Screw these people, just stay the hell away from them and do it quickly, and have no mercy in telling them off because they don't give a darn about you. I'm done being nice. My mental health comes first. (Full-Stop).
@joseenoel8093
@joseenoel8093 6 ай бұрын
Amen to that, I'd just written on another response to give it to them with both barrels when push comes to shove, you've your own mental health to take care of, there you are taking care of her only to be crapped on, covert malignant mom lied I had power of attorney, she's still going at 86 but none of her 3 kids visits, she's physically and mentally abusive to the staff getting her energy by being so...
@nushraziyan1772
@nushraziyan1772 6 ай бұрын
I clearly understand what you have been going through. I myself suffering for more than 12 years in the hands of my narcissistic in laws
@Skyfoxx23
@Skyfoxx23 6 ай бұрын
Preach 🙌
@virginiabrady3536
@virginiabrady3536 4 ай бұрын
Ummm so you didnt close the door n “bye”....obviously. That means air silence. What did you miss about excommunicating poison?
@jaxong.2701
@jaxong.2701 3 ай бұрын
I tried to stand up and I think they black listed me... Having a hugely difficult time getting a job for an entire YEAR. It's quite scary and ha e to live w my ex narc w my cats in the meantime. Fake family moved 2,000 miles away, turns out they're narcs as well. I'm adopted. So that felt really fantastic.. not. Made me feel suicidal for months. Now just alive and trying to be positive out of sheer SPITE. But whatever just had my 40th bday Aug 4th and spent it all alone on the couch. Bought myself some little cakes from the bakery. Had planned a huge birthday bash but. That's a whole story. Still depressed about it. Faked the happy that day and now sadness is taking over. Oops sorry. Anyway! Glad you got out, and def LEAVE ASAP ! Some bosses may try to screw you for life if you try and speak up unfortunately.
@iggyman83
@iggyman83 5 ай бұрын
I left a narcissist (my wife) and she had multiple fits of rage in the first few months. She tried to backpeddle, has tried to be emotionally manipulative. The turning point for me was that in our marriage nothing ever was good enough for her. I knew then that it wasn't love, it was an unhealthy attachment on both parts. So much happier and healthier now.
@Liz-wz8dh
@Liz-wz8dh 6 ай бұрын
One thing to consider with narcs though is that there are plenty of them that WILL NOT get involved with you unless they can find something they can hold over you. It can be your kids, something financial, whatever. They don't get involved with people they can't punish for not letting themselves be controlled.
@cathywasserman4571
@cathywasserman4571 6 ай бұрын
Super spot on! They investigate this very early to discern if they can find that thing to hold over you.
@MS-ns4ki
@MS-ns4ki 6 ай бұрын
Right now financial
@Liz-wz8dh
@Liz-wz8dh 6 ай бұрын
@@cathywasserman4571 Exactly. I think even Mental Healness admitted that he does this. This is what makes them especially people no one will want to be around but it's the only way they feel 'protected' in case you get out of line.
@cathywasserman4571
@cathywasserman4571 6 ай бұрын
@@Liz-wz8dh Yes! What amazes me is how many still manage to have decades long connections of all kinds. The intricate way they maintain control likely accounts for some of this and how covert they are about it, though it’s much more complicated than this explanation I am giving.
@icalotdonthide2646
@icalotdonthide2646 6 ай бұрын
So they seek dirt on a person before trying to get into a relationship. That's fking bonkers.
@etaokha4164
@etaokha4164 6 ай бұрын
He tried intentionally getting me pregnant because he has lost control over me and cant manipulate me anymore. I am totally stoic towards them. Theyre filled with envy and jealousy and continue to be angry people even in old age
@mikeypeinado383
@mikeypeinado383 6 ай бұрын
How does one intentionally get u pregnant ? Cutting holes in condoms ?? lol jw
@loredanaelenaung
@loredanaelenaung 5 ай бұрын
What did you do when he tried impregate tou?
@kaykay0xx
@kaykay0xx 4 ай бұрын
So sorry this happened to you. What are they envious of?
@gypsy698
@gypsy698 6 ай бұрын
My mom is a covert narcissist. I ended things. She kicked me out of the apt we were sharing, but, I was the one who went "no contact" on 3/16/24. She is blocked from everything, so she can't play her mind games anymore. She can find a new victim. I made it very clear, in an email that I sent her 2 days ago, that I know that she is spying on me and using (or trying to use unsuccessfully) our former next-door-neighbor to spy on me and report back to her. He said that he is friends with both of us and didn't want to take sides. She didn't like that at all. She has also ruined my reputation with relatives and her friends, so I can't talk to anyone that she is in contact with, which is fine. I'm moving on with my life.
@robynmarler1951
@robynmarler1951 6 ай бұрын
Wishing the best for you sweetheart, God bless you💖🌱💖
@joey5816
@joey5816 4 ай бұрын
Mine did the same. Ruined all the relationships with my brothers, son and relatives. My boy treats me just like she taught him. Also, turned my grand babies against me. I didn't know what a narcissist was until I was 60. I kept trying to make it work as a mother daughter relationship. I'm doing great since I moved far away from them and went no contact 😊. Praise God!!!!
@PrettyMamaPatchwork
@PrettyMamaPatchwork 6 ай бұрын
I hate when its said it has nothing to do with you. I take it personally because it is happening to ME.
@thecommentlounge
@thecommentlounge 5 ай бұрын
And that's okay. I'm the same because you're the one left to deal with your emotions and have to figure out how to cope with the relationship; that is personal. But eventually you see that the narcs treat everyone the way they treat you and those who support the Narc have simply fallen in line. It's some crazy ish but it becomes clearer as you learn the behaviors. Me, I don't stay any relationships with Narcs.... They're too toxic for me.
@ninedynastystore
@ninedynastystore 5 ай бұрын
That's because you don't understand. Educate yourself and you'll see that it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. Seek help and God will redirect your path!
@PrettyMamaPatchwork
@PrettyMamaPatchwork 5 ай бұрын
@@ninedynastystore what I do understand is they know what they are doing. They know that the pain they inflict on some but not others. I know they seek out one's they know they can get supply from. I know that it comes from childhood traumas, but we ALL have come from some form of childhood traumas and not all CHOOSE to transfer their pain to CERTAIN ones. They can seek help IF they want to, but they CHOOSE to go down the abuse path, so please do not tell me that I do not understand it. I know that they have caught a demon, and I know that God is the only one that can release them from it. Ephesians 6:12.
@jannamartens9806
@jannamartens9806 6 ай бұрын
I find especially lately unhealthy people with bad behaviours don’t want you to improve don’t want you to gain knowledge of a healthy lifestyle and relationships. Once I started researching narcissistic people boundaries and setting boundaries people will encourage you to not learn about unhealthy relationships. They start to use backlash when you set boundaries and they disrespect your boundaries. I did have rage after a domestic violent relationship this does happen you get fed up of men abusing you and people disrespecting you and men and other people using you . But once you respect yourself and know how you deserve to be treated. I no longer date addicts and women beaters only healthy relationships yes I’m picky because I have already survived the biggest user so yes I’m very picky no more unhealthy relationships. Yes I’ve reached step 2 boundaries are so important.
@spilledit
@spilledit 6 ай бұрын
They will always do micro aggressions. Eventually you might snap. If you dont, they still get to disrespect you with the micro aggressions and they enjoy all that. But they will also use the kids as pawns.
@rustyscrapper
@rustyscrapper 5 ай бұрын
Kids are the highest value chess pieces they have because the other parent can't seperate from them without abandoning the kids too. They use seeing the kids as a barbed hook you cant take out. It forces the other parent to have contact with them. Time wasting is a perfectly acceptable game they like to play, so making visitation an exhausting, time wasting, hurdle jumping game, is just great for them.
@gwenlittle8100
@gwenlittle8100 4 ай бұрын
Yes micro aggressive behaviour goes unnoticed by others.
@virginiabrady3536
@virginiabrady3536 4 ай бұрын
Ppl using “microaggressions” as a real word should be avoided at ALL costs.
@sarahgracetruth
@sarahgracetruth 6 ай бұрын
You’re explaining EXACTLY what happened to me- abrupt ending when I found out he’s a complete pathological liar- 20 years down the drain- it’s AMAZING to me to see how much he actually never cared about me- it’s so insanely sad.
@lijohnyoutube101
@lijohnyoutube101 5 ай бұрын
EXACTLY!!! It’s like he never actually cared!
@mistydmaddera
@mistydmaddera 6 ай бұрын
I cannot thank you enough for validating the struggles and giving me tools to help endure rather than react.
@nils4812
@nils4812 6 ай бұрын
Bonjour mistyd maddera
@dame8896
@dame8896 6 ай бұрын
I'm Tired of Attracting these People 😡😡😡
@iamcolettestyles
@iamcolettestyles 5 ай бұрын
Me too
@Jackmcars12
@Jackmcars12 5 ай бұрын
Me too, found out I was a damn scapegoat of one! 🙈
@wendydaniel1110
@wendydaniel1110 4 ай бұрын
Increase your discernment where you could smell them a mile away and shut it down immediately......
@abustamante2996
@abustamante2996 4 ай бұрын
Warn your children as they grow up. Teach them to turn down “gifts” and “favors” from fast people wanting any type of closeness with them. The kind coming off as a victim of a previous situation. The kind who want to tell you how to drive where to park. That’s an annoying habit but there can be a lot worse coming from them. Spare yourself trouble the problem they want your help with is not your problem.
@kostasplafountzis3544
@kostasplafountzis3544 4 ай бұрын
you are not alone if that makes it better,there are so many people like this in 2024,unfortunately,its an epidemic,worse than corona-virus,and there are so many people that suffer because of this foolishness and madness
@rwdchannel2901
@rwdchannel2901 6 ай бұрын
Grey Rock Method is the test that will expose the narcissist. A normal person will not double down on abuse or try to punish someone who uses Grey Rock Method; but a narcissist will double down on abuse or ghost the victim to try and get the victim to feel bad. The narcissist's ego shrivels up without narcissistic supply(The need for admiration from others, attention, feeling superior and in control of people).
@qubex
@qubex 6 ай бұрын
In the final showdown I used the grey rock method and she grew increasingly furious at me, and eventually she stared me down and said "look me in the eyes because this will be the last time you see me", and then she was gone. It has haunted me ever since, and that was more than a year ago.
@Liz-wz8dh
@Liz-wz8dh 6 ай бұрын
Sometimes. I wouldn't put ALL my faith into grey rock though. Narcs are very prideful people and will just look for ways to get revenge against you regardless.
@rwdchannel2901
@rwdchannel2901 6 ай бұрын
@@Liz-wz8dh Grey Rock Method is great because it shows the narcissists that you don't need their validation. The narcissist hates that because the narcissist wants to feel in control of you. If the narcissist ghost you, that's an opportunity for you to go no contact. As for revenge from the narcissist, the response will vary depending on what the narcissist does to try and get revenge.
@naturelover-f6h
@naturelover-f6h 6 ай бұрын
extreme bullying, blackmail, intimidation, threats, etc. That has been my last 1.5 years. It's awful.
@Imjustaviewforstudies
@Imjustaviewforstudies 5 ай бұрын
That black mailing don't work around here. Especially recording without my permission but go ahead be the goofie. Cops can't do shit but say move out ,they tired of that crazy person calling the cops . Still it was entertaining. Threats well her buddies talk a lot no action.
@ivankrushensky
@ivankrushensky 5 ай бұрын
@@Imjustaviewforstudies hi narc
@SusanaXpeace2u
@SusanaXpeace2u 5 ай бұрын
That makes sense, if they can't control me, they have to end the relationship. They have done that. But, they have spun it that I ended it. I have done nothing but plead to be heard for the last four years.
@Karen-j5j
@Karen-j5j 4 ай бұрын
A narc never has remorse. They may have regret but never remorse.
@hugmc
@hugmc Ай бұрын
Yes regret because they lost a toy 🧸
@anapanchiss
@anapanchiss 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I needed to watch this today. “You can’t even have a discussion with that person cause you’re not going to get what you want from this person!” Wooof so true
@resilient8788
@resilient8788 6 ай бұрын
The day I kicked him out, his drunk self was texting his former drug and alcohol counselor that I was trying to attack his body and that he wouldn't blank that pyhco blanking blank for nothing. I had filed to have his squatter self evicted 5 months prior, but the courts kept postponing due to covid period... he took advantage of that. He called the next day and told me he forgave me for calling the police and asked if it was okay to come back. Lol, hell no! Narcissistic people don't change. The vicious smear campaigns start long before you even have a clue. Peace is paramount.
@ss3032-d9g
@ss3032-d9g 6 ай бұрын
Blame shifting, Rage fits, suicide threats and attempts, epic (almost life destroying) discard. Petulant Children acting out with adult consequences impacting themselves or others.
@BAsed_AFro
@BAsed_AFro 6 ай бұрын
Control, Envy, wrath/rage... are EVERYTHING to the NPD case.
@icalotdonthide2646
@icalotdonthide2646 6 ай бұрын
I never thought I was the problem. If I was, then wouldn't keep coming back. I just want them to go away, permanently.
@joseenoel8093
@joseenoel8093 6 ай бұрын
Oh touché very well said, put up with them we did and that quietly and humbley, wanna be narc hubby and I onto our 29th soon and tired of his throwing in my face how I'd begged him not to break up with me (girl's gotta get financially secured somehow, kidding not kidding but of course he didn't have to put the charm on) I say you treated me like a Yo-Yo, he's lucky I put up with him, he went to boarding prep school, he grew up a few doors over but I knew what I was in for but now it's a case of ENOUGH! Blessings to you yes we know there's something wrong with the picture but we like us, do our best they can fix themselves!
@laura-2
@laura-2 5 ай бұрын
When dealing with narcissism, you should know that it’s not personal. “It isn’t personal” is one of those cliches used to cushion all kinds of bad actions taken by people who need an out for being immoral, but in this case it actually gets near the truth. Narcissists don’t know how to love or be a friend; they can’t afford to spare the energy to learn, because they’re always in a state of high emergency, cataloging potential threats and redoubling their defenses. When they claim to love you, it means nothing. They may even think they mean it, but they don’t understand the concept - they can’t feel it. They never attach to you or anyone else. Other people are paper cut-outs to the narcissist, like those cardboard figures of celebrities you pose next to for a selfie. Narcissist value their own children only as mirrors of themselves. When they destabilize you or attack you, it means nothing. They are stuck in an endless conversation with themselves, in which you are an inanimate object, to be assigned their own faults and used as a surrogate punching bag for their hatred of themselves. When they toss you out, it’s no more meaningful than a junkie tossing away a needle; when they try to reel you back in, it only means that they tired of the new drug and need a hit of the old. None of this is personal. They’re too terrified to have personal relationships, opting instead for extraction of admiration from a subservient partner whose range of action they strictly constrain. This is not personal. None of it. The narcissist does not know who you are - it doesn’t know how to know other people. Like the vampire or the chainsaw-wielding creature in the horror film, it’s from another world, bereft of the concept of human connection. Moreover, People wonder why they end up hurt, seriously hurt, and even killed for their own actions. Cheating is a choice and there’s simply a lot of ignorance in the process.... Thank you so much for helping me out Metaspyhub@gmail. com. Your advice and services helped me so much. You are a lifesaver !!! The information you gave me about my cheating partner when you gave me access to his phone was everything I needed to get,.. thank you very much..
@jws3925
@jws3925 5 ай бұрын
My ex wife's favorite was "I may say some things when I am angry. Don't be so sensitive, I don't mean a lot it. Why don't you grow up."
@SoundsBogus
@SoundsBogus 5 ай бұрын
"Surrogate punching bag." The N in my life can't fathom why I don't want to be on the receiving end of his rages, since he's just expressing the anger he has for himself, as he explained. He can't relate to the shattering of my nervous system, as I explained.
@ricksantiago702
@ricksantiago702 5 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more ! What I’ve done is just avoid them. They finally figure out I don’t play their game. They find another and move on
@DEAN_23
@DEAN_23 6 ай бұрын
When I called out my narc on their behaviour, and called time on things with them, they tried to apologise, tried to flip the situation, telling me all that I needed to hear, and tried to tell me how we could "fight for the relationship", all while still trying to undermine, devalue, and browbeat me into submission. When that didn't work, they got some flying monkeys to do their bidding. And when they knew that everything they were trying to do wasn't going to work out in their favour this time, they flipped out, and did anything and everything else to try to salvage some control. Point is, they didn't see as nothing more than a minion, and underling, if you will, and all because I wanted to find my own way, and not rely on others to do it, this was a true catalyst of such. My advice, always move forward, and never look back.....
@simpletruths5322
@simpletruths5322 4 ай бұрын
When you realise they don’t and never did care for you, heartbreaking. To accept that all you are is scenery in their life, an ornament. To them you are no more than an inanimate object, no different to a toaster or kettle. It brings a lot of peace once you accept this.
@app13s33d
@app13s33d 6 ай бұрын
Wow. Tysm for this! Now i understand why my narc hated it when i seemed nonchalant to his tantrums. Because im a teacher, controlling my emotions is second nature and he would get upset that he couldnt make me mad or rage out. He blamed that i didnt care because i wasnt angry. Now i know no, i do care - im just in control. Tyty
@babblesp1367
@babblesp1367 6 ай бұрын
Funny. The person I’m dealing with is a teacher. I’m thinking, control your students-not me.
@kiathadiva7
@kiathadiva7 4 ай бұрын
Going no contact vs them just going silent …. Is totally different!!!
@cherylsulkowski6563
@cherylsulkowski6563 5 ай бұрын
It’s really hard to remain calm when someone is screaming in your face
@Nate-yu2xs
@Nate-yu2xs 28 күн бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you so much! You made some terrific points. I'm currently dealing with my parents that are both narcissists. They are 55 & 52 and I'm 27. It's extremely difficult but I'm enjoying the challenge of this whole experience to grow from it. And most of all, don't hate the narcissist. Personally, I love my parents and feel bad for them- but that doesn't mean I sacrifice my own adult boundaries. Stand firm and believe in yourself and don't let anyone tell you your crazy for how you KNOW you feel💯💯 much love to yall
@TiffaniHenson
@TiffaniHenson 6 ай бұрын
When they say "I know you dont believe me but ..... its the most unbelievable statement.
@okanlawonabrahamshina3300
@okanlawonabrahamshina3300 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👌
@jaxong.2701
@jaxong.2701 3 ай бұрын
Ahhh can feel that, also! However in the same breath- As someone who's been around narc my whole life I started saying that for a while bc I thought they really never believed me, & assumed nobody ever believed me. Made me seem really weird for years. Glad you brought this up in a way
@steve4524
@steve4524 5 ай бұрын
When you learn about there disorder and stand up for yourself they will discard you.
@selfloveforever7901
@selfloveforever7901 4 ай бұрын
So true 💯
@lindamyers495
@lindamyers495 2 ай бұрын
Then come back to damage you more
@coach_amy
@coach_amy 6 ай бұрын
After the initial separation drama.... When they don't get to witness your pain, or when you stop giving them attention or they stop getting attention from the smearing of you, then they simply get bored of you and just continue on with the current sources of supply that they've had all along (in the case of a covert somatic NPD ex partner, this includes their groupies and imaginary lovers who they have fantasized about even in your relationship). It's like you didn't even exist to them.
@STEPHANIEENAJE
@STEPHANIEENAJE 6 ай бұрын
I would love to not exist to them anymore! Leave me in peace.
@theroadtoDamascas
@theroadtoDamascas 6 ай бұрын
For a time, they always hoover back..can't help themselves😮
@coach_amy
@coach_amy 6 ай бұрын
@@theroadtoDamascas Not mine (family of origin and ex partners). It was always me chasing the dangling carrot. But I have heard lots of videos and read a lot of comments, like yours, that some do indeed hoover!
@theroadtoDamascas
@theroadtoDamascas 6 ай бұрын
@@coach_amy yes, and frequently, no matter if you block in every way, it seems to present a challenge to them..controlling other ppl and whatever is in their surroundings. Ppl in control of themselves do not try to control ppl.
@Liz-wz8dh
@Liz-wz8dh 6 ай бұрын
Yes, but you have to be careful not to give them something they might cling to you for. A LOT of narcs also have BPD and BPD people rarely let anyone go that they can still get something out of.
@stevesanders8523
@stevesanders8523 5 ай бұрын
I view all your videos over and over again, as reassurance that I was not crazy. Watching your videos multiple times is like I’m being deprogrammed. It’s reassuring to know I wasn’t crazy.
@obi-wankenobi8462
@obi-wankenobi8462 5 ай бұрын
My ex friend narc arranged for homeless people to break into my car while I was at his house. He wanted to stop me from moving out of town. He thought if my stuff was stolen, I wouldn’t be able to leave. Then he offered to buy a replacement for the most important stolen items. I took his money and gtfo’ed. I win!!
@Greent91
@Greent91 6 ай бұрын
I don’t care about being alone but, the NARCISSISTIC DOES 😂 that’s a scare tactic that no longer works. And they will try and break up and block you first to make it seem like they are right and you’re in the wrong!!!! BYE NARC ✌️
@allthingsjana7870
@allthingsjana7870 5 ай бұрын
💯
@Sadbukket1800
@Sadbukket1800 2 ай бұрын
Lmao facts
@abroadmentally5127
@abroadmentally5127 5 ай бұрын
Married to this type of woman for 19 years and seriously thought I was going crazy. I never thought about this but hearing these tactics makes everything come together. 😢
@psimobius1273
@psimobius1273 5 ай бұрын
"You're not going to get from that person what you want, which is basically for them to be human" Jesus christ. Watching more and more content about identifying narcissistic behavior is really helping me navigate the mountain my partner dropped on me recently. Because they have been unbelievably cruel to me.
@Mia.Lopes-22
@Mia.Lopes-22 5 ай бұрын
My ex when noticing he couldn’t get control back over me, his reaction was accusing me of being inflexible and not fit to live alone, the next step was to threaten me with losing my house and refusing to pay any settlement declaring he has no money. In the end he just confessed to my face “ I am bad and it’s my way of being “ . Narcissists destroy all they touch nothing can flourish near them , they are soulless creatures. I am lucky to have a lawyer and a therapist that believe in me and they are the support I need to come forward to go through with the divorce.
@jaxong.2701
@jaxong.2701 3 ай бұрын
Omg !! Dude Ive heard 3 people this year (lol people, I mean narcissists) Brag openly to MY FACE about how manipulative they are... Then are surprised that people see thru them 😂 How does nobody kick their teeth in?
@kristelwalton3141
@kristelwalton3141 4 ай бұрын
I found this so helpful to hear that they are taking their own disparate measures to protect their ego, and we suffer those consequences. Let that be the reminder that we don't need to fix another adult!
@Beautifully_Blended
@Beautifully_Blended 5 ай бұрын
When someone “ghosts” you…it’s actually your escape route. Take it! And never go back 💪🏽
@bluoval3481
@bluoval3481 5 ай бұрын
Yep! Run fast and hard!! It's your window of opportunity (get out of jail free card) to forge ahead toward an emotionally healthy life!!
@Beautifully_Blended
@Beautifully_Blended 5 ай бұрын
@@bluoval3481 yes💯
@palapalak.8907
@palapalak.8907 3 ай бұрын
@@Beautifully_Blended fact!
@spacekitty3137
@spacekitty3137 3 ай бұрын
My god… I divorced a covert narcissist of 12 years but I learned he was a narcissist after the divorce and the reality of the insanity I was living with is hitting me so hard. I’m grateful bc as I healed myself I learned to love, respect and validate my experiences without him. The last few years I started responding like it was “ a business transaction” it’s crazy bc you’re putting words to what I went through. It’s hard to process but I’m grateful for understanding what I was actually dealing with.
@lonjemariesfashions5117
@lonjemariesfashions5117 6 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏾 And by the way, I hope I don’t offend you when I say you are absolutely beautiful and I love your voice .I mean you no harm I just literally love giving compliments , and boosting people up. Thank you for what you do.
@erinlarkin6469
@erinlarkin6469 6 ай бұрын
Do we actually live in a time where we have to apologise for giving a compliment
@patjones2082
@patjones2082 6 ай бұрын
She is pretty, inside and out. Smart, too!
@loeuvremanic4835
@loeuvremanic4835 5 ай бұрын
Two years going No contact; I still suffer PTSD, nightmares and everything time I still remember the voice of the Narc in my head. I feel the guilt of being in that relationship, the lying, the gaslighting and the manipulation. The Narcissistic abuse taught me how to manage my empathy, how to not be exploited and stop endless forgiving. Good luck to everyone in your healing journey
@kadlacdixon-thedrawmylifep3293
@kadlacdixon-thedrawmylifep3293 5 ай бұрын
7:10 This right there, growing up is what warped my mind and made me think I'm the problem, diligently trying to change me, how I act, who I am, my actions, because this is all happening because of me, and that led me to being overly self critical and later set in as feeling hate for myself because I caused all these problems and I'm not even good enough to be loved... It's funny how you are actually the victim in the situation, but they will see themselves as the victim, and you become the perpetrator...
@tiffanyclark3341
@tiffanyclark3341 6 ай бұрын
When they finally realize they can’t control you they get angry! In my case after 20 years this ended up being physical bc nothing else worked anymore ….
@tiffanyclark3341
@tiffanyclark3341 6 ай бұрын
The physical rage definitely came after the smear campaigns had come and gone a few years before
@jwhubert91
@jwhubert91 Ай бұрын
I watched part of this video out of curiosity. I have borderline personality disorder- not narcissism- and I can become extremely volatile when someone leaves. The reason is because it doesn't feel like a regular person leaving- it activates old childhood traumas and feels like a mother leaving you. All of your worst fears about being worthless and unlovable coming true. It has nothing to do with ego. It's something I'm working on and hope I'm never in that situation again- but I feel like people try to label each other with psychology stuff when we're mad at a partner or ex, but it may be a complete misdiagnosis.
@sofiaortiz6595
@sofiaortiz6595 28 күн бұрын
I hear what you’re saying. I have BPD and a victim of a narcissist partner. Often narcissists pair up with people with abandonment and or attachment issues, which is a common trait of people with BPD.
@Trixie_Django
@Trixie_Django 6 ай бұрын
I adore you... thank you so much. I've been going through an absolute hell with an upstairs neighbor couple who are older and clearly NPD as well as the guy being a sociopath. It's horrifying how they've put me through literally every test and pattern that I've learned on these personality types online. Unfortunately, because I'm no longer playing the game or responding in any way whatsoever, I can tell they're about to get ugly and turn up the heat. It's heartbreaking that anyone can even do this to a neighbor who has lived here 2 years longer than them and was nothing but kind and welcoming to them when they moved in 11 months ago. They are retired and home 24/7 and that's also how much time they spend on harassing me. It's literally the most bizarre situation I've ever encountered but also exhausting and often frightening even though I never let them see that.
@angelinaesposito3058
@angelinaesposito3058 6 ай бұрын
A Bully is Only being a Bully because You are giving him permission. Stand up to the Bully. 0 Tolerance. Most will slink away under the rock & Leave you alone. With others You have to keep a written record & keep a written record with the authorities also So You are prepared for Court
@Trixie_Django
@Trixie_Django 5 ай бұрын
​@@angelinaesposito3058 I wish it were that easy. I have stood up to them multiple times now and it's not worth it with these people because as narcs go... they spin you right into a word salad, play forgetful and have no idea what I'm talking about and then say we should all have a barbecue. Then as soon as we all go back inside where there are no witnesses... right back to harassing me. So I no longer engage them and yes, I have documented every time several times a day for 10 months of this as well as tons of recording. So I am very prepared if it ever really hits the fan. And TRUE... they are bullies and also cowards but it's all a game to them so I've learned it's best to just give them ZERO energy or supply at this point. Still a tough ride though and especially knowing they do this intentionally. They want me to react more than anything so I'm the one evicted and leaving in cuffs. Truly evil.
@Sarah-nx1vl
@Sarah-nx1vl 5 ай бұрын
Am so sorry you are going through this. Can you get cameras fitted? Also record them when they behave this way, discreetly, gives you evidence. These people have too much time on their hands and that is dangerous. I am in a similar situation due to a narc ex smearing and sorry to say, am now selling up and moving on. Life is a game to these awful people and it's no joke when they fixate on you and so close to your home, your sanctuary! It's a horrendous experience and only you know what is best for you to do. Be well and protect your peace and mental health.
@Trixie_Django
@Trixie_Django 5 ай бұрын
@@Sarah-nx1vl Thanks so much and yes, I've been recording and documenting everything for 11 months now. It truly is all a game to them and everyone assumes you can just tell these people where to go but they're only going to double-down if I confront them with the actual anger I feel so I've had to just play it smart and quiet and hope and wait. I'm sorry you're going through something similar. I don't wish it on anyone. My home was once my sanctuary and oasis but now it feels more like a prison cell. It's just mindblowing how these people have zero boundaries.
@catherineq5918
@catherineq5918 4 ай бұрын
That was helpful. Will remember when the guilt bullets fly at me and the victim pleading starts at all hours. Handle it like a bussiness transaction. Look after your own emotions afterwards. Dont let them control you after the fact 😅 phew. Thank you ❤
@omvendtslev
@omvendtslev 5 ай бұрын
Look out for Female covert narcs !!!
@tommoyle8330
@tommoyle8330 5 ай бұрын
the most dangerous critter on the planet
@gwenlittle8100
@gwenlittle8100 4 ай бұрын
Yes they push you into crazy land.
@SquishyGrayMatter
@SquishyGrayMatter 4 ай бұрын
@@gwenlittle8100so do narc men
@AG-nj3ky
@AG-nj3ky 2 ай бұрын
Just listening to this boils my blood. I have worked for about 4 years in an environment with not one but two narcistic bosses. Everything outlined in this video I have personally experienced and endured. The narcistic rage was what harmed me most and developed into PTSS. I couldn't feel save anymore at work and felt that someone would verbally and emotionally abuse me at any given moment for no obvious reason. I also quickly learned that asserting yourself against someone who has authority over you is a total waste of effort. Unfortunetly, my personal situation didint allow me to quickly manoeuvre to another job either. The possitive side of this painful experience was that, I emerged as a much stronger person. It forced me to tune into my feelings, emotions and unconcious patterns and behaviors. I wish anyone going through the same experience lots of strenght and courage. Seek help, hang in there and work on your exit strategy!
@nicolehayes6020
@nicolehayes6020 6 ай бұрын
Yep these people are just SO SO SO MUCH! My lord! The part I just don’t understand is how they know exactly what they’re doing but keep doin it over and over again….
@bluoval3481
@bluoval3481 5 ай бұрын
It's really a form of mental illness IMHO. And when one is sick in the head, sometimes their mind will trick them into believing what they say and do can't possibly be wrong.
@carvinbethea.9115
@carvinbethea.9115 6 ай бұрын
Everything she says word for word is nothing but FACTS 💯
@natee.4517
@natee.4517 6 ай бұрын
The thing is that most men do not want to do any mental work- trust me ladies, as a straight man, it disgusts me as well! Keep putting that work in everyone-
@alguedemer
@alguedemer 5 ай бұрын
True...
@erichoben4125
@erichoben4125 6 ай бұрын
Thank you . Im learning how to deal with all the abuse my wife put me through for the past 16 months .
@Omar84.
@Omar84. 22 күн бұрын
It is like a copy-paste of what I dealt with, rage and physical abuse in a day. The next day she came crying, begging for foregiveness hugging and kissing. She told me I will do what you wish without discussing, give us a break, YOU ARE MY SOULMATE. I said no, you are free to leave, I respect you but this is not normal and I cannot tolerate this relationship, I AM UNABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU, IT IS ONLY YOUR WAY. 3 weeks later I felt guilt and missed her, so I contacted her to find that she has a new BF and is planning to get married. So i felt worse, restless and angry. Until i started watching videos about narcissistic behavior, I realized that what I did was the right thing. Guilt feeling is still there but slowly fading, but i definitely feel blessed. The feeling of not being able to live with her and not being able to live without her is not a normal feeling in a relationship, and these were exactly my feelings over and over again, as I kept getting back to her until finally I broke loose.
@ronnieburklew
@ronnieburklew 5 ай бұрын
You are right on point with everything you said. I'm going through a divorce/custody battle. The kids are my weakness and she knows it and uses it against me constantly. She doesn't care if she is negatively hurting the kids as long as she hurts me!
@virginiabrady3536
@virginiabrady3536 4 ай бұрын
Ur lawyers are laughing all the way to their bank deposit.
@queenofhearts7361
@queenofhearts7361 5 ай бұрын
Only day three of post trauma bond breakup, trying to stay strong. It's so hard, but he's finally broken me to the point of no return.
@zakiyahussein8586
@zakiyahussein8586 5 ай бұрын
I’m on day two… stay strong!
@oMaJiNo1618
@oMaJiNo1618 5 ай бұрын
I know how u feel as I finalize my divorce on Friday. I called and told her I missed her and all I got was an “ok.” She purposely told my oldest son to tell me that she misses me bc she thought I would reach out, but I didn’t. She doesn’t miss me, she misses the idea of me. I miss her, but after seeing her unmasked, I’ll never view her the same or fall for those lousy tricks ever again.
@Imjustaviewforstudies
@Imjustaviewforstudies 5 ай бұрын
If you can sleep in peace and wake up to no pressure. You won especially no babies involved. Just keep swimming
@alguedemer
@alguedemer 5 ай бұрын
Courage, same here. 2 weeks here.
@bradhayescamoman9348
@bradhayescamoman9348 5 ай бұрын
Their weaknesses are all ego based.. They stopped learning early in life yet believe they know everything.. Use emotions to manipulate & will act childish at times.. Im constantly studying them for their must be a solution found to bridge the gap in some way.. I refuse to believe their isn't a resolution, least for humanity's sake their must be!
@asmrfoodieuk7965
@asmrfoodieuk7965 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately there isn't a solution because the trauma they've gone through in early life has changed their brain structure in permanent ways. This then gives rise to NPD, its an engrained personality disorder which arises from physical changes to the brain when processing trauma.
@jaxong.2701
@jaxong.2701 3 ай бұрын
Introspection is the solution. Up to them. Solutions exist, but not always implemented . Feel you tho!🙏🏽
@blove2023
@blove2023 12 күн бұрын
Keep Dreaming
@rainbowkitty1996
@rainbowkitty1996 6 ай бұрын
It’s so screwed up when you get used their verbal abuse. It’s not supposed to feel normal but eventually it does. When you stand your ground and make your boundaries 100% clear, their “script” they follow to manipulate you has to be re-written. Funny how it takes them longer to reply when you stand your ground. Seriously, giving me crap because I sent a good morning text 1.5 hours before she woke up. Well fine then mock me for it…. That argument didn’t end well for her. Why do they wake and decide to be a total a$$ to someone…. So stupid.
@clintonnagy1662
@clintonnagy1662 6 ай бұрын
I went through that. If I sent " good morning" texts she wouldn't respond. But if she send one, and I didn't respond she would get upset. I told her the same she told me....I didnt feel the need to respond to every message she sent. Sweet taste of victory is mine. Gorilla warfare. Use their manipulation tactics against them.
@jaxong.2701
@jaxong.2701 3 ай бұрын
I was invited out of one bad situation Into another. Half "sister" aka demon invited me to live with her in another state, got a uhaul and everything. Brought my cats.. Second day she let her "alvery aggressive husky" out to bite my face. Next day I was on the phone to my besty in another state as well talking about the situation.. Demon texted me and I didn't see it for 45 min so.. she kicked me out and told me to go to a shelter. Proceeded to take all my best clothing items leaving me with actual garbage, and broke my next furniture. Then sent a letter to my mom all the way in new Mexico stating I'm the one w mental issues. Luckily Mom just ripped it up and threw it away and said she's crazy. Was just a day before my birthday last week. Her mother was terrible also and died Jan 2020. I physically said "oh THANK GOD!!!" And I will say it about her as well bc she treats my 4 yr old nephew like garbage and takes horrible care of herself. She's a jealous monster. An actual spawn of Satan. She reminds me of Angela de from 90 day fiance now. Terrifying. Although!!!? She never said ANYTHING to me in person. Pu$$y.
@marilynng4337
@marilynng4337 6 ай бұрын
They will give the silent treatment, too. I hate this behavior so much The narc in my life is my adult son and his wife. They use my grandkids to weaponize me
@joseenoel8093
@joseenoel8093 6 ай бұрын
Hi my daughter does this, used my husband to weaponize me, ha! Said she's a little old to be playing daddy's girl at 28, has an ultra rich fiancee but and now I'm giving her a taste of her own medicine which undoubtedly doesn't take taste very good, my husband took me on a wonderful vacation, my son and his fiancee again this fall, I b-fed her for 2.5 yrs, became a stay at home mom, gave her colleges/universities of her choice then she whines about the price of everything I reminded her I'd told her not to move out while at uni, blocked me a yr so to fix me? She can join that club and call 1-800-we-don't-give a fvck but I think the lines engaged! Get your strenght back, let him gnaw on the wife & kids, hopefully you'll be up for it when they open their eyes, how's it going to be in a decade they call the shots now? At 60 my daughter insisted that I do a living will, hun? Nope and aren't my son and his fiancee nurses who say her attitude isn't good for her, she'll have to smarten up or she doesn't get me and my family gatherings, her fiance's family is all abroad (my husband's too so I know how robbed one can be) she'll have to change her tune/reshuffle her deck, I won't be worshipping her!
@Textemple
@Textemple 6 ай бұрын
You sure you weren't a shitty mom to him?
@ericamee5285
@ericamee5285 6 ай бұрын
I am in the same situation right now , after 7 years of him trashing me through other people he called me yesterday as he's now homeless, he hasn't spoken to me for 3 years , has abused his ex and he now hasnothing ... how do we turn the mother switch off though 😢
@LukasVlcek
@LukasVlcek 28 күн бұрын
"You are not going to get what it is that you want from that person which is for them to be a human". - Exactly. Amen.
@tonyg3605
@tonyg3605 6 ай бұрын
They good absolutely bonkers, I just have to remember that I’m dealing with a toddler in a grown man’s body.
@mollyangel8966
@mollyangel8966 5 ай бұрын
I just had a situation with a perfectly nice person at work After I had taken a call, he wanted to look at my computer screen to critique something he thought I had said wrong. Then when a colleague asked me a question about it because the call was originally for her, he did not let me speak, he answered as if I was not there. I did not deal with it very well at first. I was passive aggressive. Eventually sending a message to home apologising for that but letting him know he overstepped and to not do that again. He did this a few times before but it really got to me this time. His little boy inside is always screening for our manager to see him. LOOK AT ME, he obviously denied what he did and said he was sorry if I felt that way
@merin797
@merin797 2 ай бұрын
Girl. So spot on, especially for where I am in this process currently. Which is 1.75 years into this. I noticed something something undeniable and crystal clear that told me I’m not dealing with a normal person. Then, I dug deep into learning about NPD. I mean averaging several YT vids per night, for months! I am alot further down the road than people who are just starting out. Thank God. For me, in particular, it was the stonewalling, and breadcrumbing. The “heat checks”, and ghosting. Set my nervous system on fire (still does). The depression is still there, even though intellectually I am much more educated. STILL not all the way out, but getting closer every day. I decided to create a HUGE goal ahead to focus my attn elsewhere. It’s the things he dismisses, like my nieces marriage proposal and my grandnephew’s baptism this week! Shows me exactly who is is, and Isn’t. He must be dead inside and jealous. Killed him with kindness amd badass accomplishments. He will have regrets, but it’s none of my business. Hang in there. Most of all, I WANT MY NERVOUS SYSTEM BACK!!!
@soniaochieng
@soniaochieng 5 ай бұрын
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
@CarltonMcDuffie
@CarltonMcDuffie 2 ай бұрын
This is probably THE BEST narcissistic ‘advisory’ video I’ve seen in a looong time…& I’ve seen MANY!! So spot on!! Bravo!!! Keep going!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@andreariegler
@andreariegler 6 ай бұрын
My former toxic boss set me free with his tantrum. 15 months til the mask slipped, 1 month from that til the unraveling. I went silent when mask slipped and pulled no contact reverse discard when he wanted his episode to be a public performance in front of his customers. 3 strikes put him out, freedom is sweet. Blocked everywhere
@virginiabrady3536
@virginiabrady3536 4 ай бұрын
K...What?
@resinheaven8888
@resinheaven8888 4 ай бұрын
Stephanie . I've watched hundreds of video's about Narcism in families. This video absolutely explains everything!. THANK YOU for this post. It will help lots of people, including myself!
@MyFaith2012
@MyFaith2012 6 ай бұрын
Dealing with this in my office, women in mgmt team, and no one above them is checking them or holding them accountable. Thank you.
@bluoval3481
@bluoval3481 5 ай бұрын
I'm truly sorry this sick minded employee continues to wreak havoc on you, your company and all persons involved. Sometimes these types of employees are protected and it can sometimes be very difficult to get them out of the company. Obviously the smartest thing to do is get rid of them, but sometimes we have to find another company to work for. Not saying that's what you have to do in your case, but it might be.
@danelllundin6225
@danelllundin6225 6 ай бұрын
I am currently a year into what I now know as a narcissistic relationship. I’ve heard people joke about it and stuff before but I am pretty sure I I let the most evil narcissistic individual into my life that I possibly could and it is definitely taken a toll on, my self-esteem self-worth how I feel about myself how I look at myself I don’t even trust my own judgment anymore. How could I have let this happen anyway, I just wanted to tell you that I really appreciate your videos and it’s nice to hear someone talk about the actual fact of it instead of just trying to sell me some subscription or some programso they can make money when there are people out there like me that I’m not even so sure I’m gonna be able to find my identity again, but if that’s the case I’m damn sure not going down without a fight. Thank you again you were definitely appreciated and needed.
@rosaliaoliver-qv3gr
@rosaliaoliver-qv3gr 6 ай бұрын
❤Thank you Stephanie❤ for one more wonderful video!❤it open our eyes!❤
@oksanabuchananiregressiveh8097
@oksanabuchananiregressiveh8097 5 ай бұрын
Exactly what you say 100% I lived through he did when I refused to listen to him, do what he wants me to do and when I started talking to his relatives and telling them all about the real situation.
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