302 VS. 351 STROKER!

[@edsmachine93]

Good information Ben. I really like the oil system modifications. Installing the rear oil gallery transfer plug upside down is a definite win. The oil transfer tube is good tech also. Great information on all points, people need to listen to this video. Thank you for sharing. Have a great week Ben. Take care, Ed.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Ed! These points I highlighted are hopefully a good tip to helps all of us build a better small block.

[@adamskull6268]

Professor Alemeda! I enjoy hearing your years of knowledge in drag racing and engine building. Little tweaks here and there that increase power along with reliability. I remember I would stop by your shop when you were located on San Fernando Rd. You had Chino Ray working at the shop. A couple of times I'd see you at Irwindale. I really appreciate your videos. Always learn something new. God bless the Alemeda Family.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Adam and wish I can see who you are! lol I have met many thru the years and sometimes I am confused with everyone I meet so I always equate all with their cars or projects! This way I will remember. Do you have Facebook?

[@norbialaniz8442]

Hello Ben been. Awhile ! Norberto Alaniz Texas ! I’m happy to see your channel grow to where it was before we talked ! God bless you and take care !

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Hey Bud! Long time no talk or hear and glad you are still out there building stuff!

[@timh6977]

Thanks for the video Ben. Great format for listening in the shed whilst working. I pulled my 357ci Cleveland down a couple of weeks back, was tired after 15,000kms. It had a 50 thou compressed gasket and 36 down the hole. All carboned up. 10 :1 static comp. Bad set up, rattled with 24 deg total timing. Going to a 4 inch stroke motor. Thanks for your advice. Tim Australia 🇦🇺

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Yes sir that 4 inch stroke going to wake up that devil sir! lol Set the deck at zero and bring down the gasket compressed clearance and I bet it would not rattle at all! When it is that wide there is a tremendous amount of carbon build up and it is trouble big time.

[@danonoveh8114]

Thanks for the Awesome info videos they are extremely helpful, we need more guys like you out there, Thanks again Ben💯💯💯

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I am deeply humbled when I am able to assist others make a better result for their projects. Nothing could be more rewarding than seeing one's smile, a validation that they made a good move building their projects!

[@bobbybelcher6800]

Thank you Ben I absolutely enjoyed every minute of this valuable lecture ! Can't wait for the next one !

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thank you as well Bobby and those others supporting my efforts to greater understanding therefore we can build better engines for our projects!

[@jcnpresser]

As I watched your channel before and during my build up of my ho motor, sbe with Promaxx project x 185 heads, almost,600 lift, I had trouble finding head gaskets. Like you said, most were.100 over sized. I wanted the thinnest ones closest to 4” I could find, settled with 4.030 at.041 installed thickness. I used a die grinder with a 2” flap disc to relieve the intake pocket in the piston for some extra valve relief, and unshrouding. When I first fired it up me and the kiddo we’re pumped. Hood eyes got big cause it had the same cam in it that it had before, but it sounded way more crisp with some added compression! Now it sounds pretty nasty! Thanks for the videos! 💪

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Wow thanks for the input and glad you guys made it that much better!

[@shanegamble3746]

Awesome content Ben. Keep it flowing. Real world results dispel bench racing BS.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thank you Shane! I try to put in tidbits of my experience like my comment here about the "recipe man" trying to one up my efforts and others. Usually ending up worse for those involved. Bottom line is you cannot make stuff up if that person does not race on a competitive level where you can measure up how poor or well your stuff is doing. There are many good engine guys out there and their work does not have to be claimed because their performance speak for themselves...

[@rickyfulks6656]

Always enjoy what u share Ben,looking forward to ur next video. Take care

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Ricky and glad you are here watching!

[@Wardaddy1124]

I had a Sbf 427 with 2 kits from induction solutions man that was a good running car the car was a galaxy wish I would had kept it.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Wow and I bet it ran at that cubic inch!

[@GrandPitoVic]

Great video Ben!!!! I appreciate the information!!! Thank you sir!!!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

As usual thank you for your support of the channel.

[@michaeltoone2305]

Ben thank you for the information 👍

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Michael.

[@williamrose8944]

Happy Thanksgiving back at you thanks for sharing good information sometimes you'd be better off running the 8.2 block w/347 combo , I can remember back in high school I put the 69 351 engine in my 64 1/2 Mustang 4 speed/4.11 gears alot of fun

[@benalamedaracing2765]

It is all in the balance of the package at hand! You know this from experience. I have seen many times an off balanced combo of big cubic inches does nothing but sit there and fry their tires, meanwhile the better thought of car takes off and gone! lol. Seen it many times.

[@dalewarriorofthesea3998]

Great expert common sense from you once again Ben Nice to see you not burning up in the heat First day of Summer down here in Australia Our turn to bake lol

[@cliffturner5086]

We have already had 40 degree + days just west of Brisbane. Summer has been here for the last month. It's OK for Mexicans.😅

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I am happy to know I have supporters down under and noticed these when my views spike on Thursdays! Realizing that your Friday is our Thursdays!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

@@cliffturner5086 How hot does it get there during these times?

[@dalewarriorofthesea3998]

@@benalamedaracing2765 Can get to 110° in heatwaves a few days throughout the Summer Consistently 95° High humidity in February Yes a lot of Ford fans in Australia as we manufactured Cleveland's in cars till 1982 With the 302 Cleveland being built here from1972 or 3 Closed chamber 2V Slightly longer rod I'm just finishing a 347 Roller Windsor Annular booster VRS 4150 edelbrock 750 double pumper 10.9 to 1 zero deck 40 thou quench 2.08 inlet valve 205cc intake,rpm airgap dual plane 231 239 at 50 hydraulic rolla Going in my bodyshop work pick up We call them a ute down here Followed your advice and little tricks you mentioned in your past videos Has a 1 3 firing order lol Daily driver running pump fuel Our fuel is 98 octane which I think is equal to your 93

[@benalamedaracing2765]

@@dalewarriorofthesea3998 looks like it will be a lil monster there Dale! How much lift at the valve you got in it now?

[@markmoire2058]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and info it's greatly appreciated

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Mark.

[@ricksshop]

Cubes are nice, but the 8.2" deck 5.0 with Explorer accessories fits in a lot of places. The one I did was in a Bronco II.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Yes it is an impressive package specially with EFI.

[@dougroope8040]

As usual, great content, and thank you for all of your information... I'm putting a 395W together with flat tops and Edelbrock E205 heads, which with a little work should be a good head. What are your thoughts about your little trick witheaving out the 2nd ring and expander ring modification?

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I will suggest the 2nd delete only for mostly strip cars and not everyday runners. It is for those looking for the max in everything they do for power sacrificing just about everything for a few ponies more.

[@ThomasELeClair]

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I loved the whole video,,,,,,,,,,,,Your dedication to the craft,,,,,,,,,,,,and informing us with your passion and experience............I gotta get a set of TW heads for my 347.......The motor came with edelbrock perf rpm heads and a 250 nitrous shot on a victor jr,,,,,, set-up.....I landed a parker funnel ram,,,,,and ............I can port the ebock heads to flow more than the stupid 175 or so ,,,,,,,up to maybe 195 cfm,,,,,,,,,anyway,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,...

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Those TW's are the stuff that gives one a leg up on competition street or track. I am contemplating a video highlighting why these is so...

[@claytonstoolbox]

Awesome video Ben!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Thanks Clayton and suggest here what you want to see and hear. If I know it it will come! lol. As long as I have experience it there is no way we can write a story without factual basis.I feel most respond real good when I breakaway and tell a little experience here and there.

[@4fun123254]

would love to see how to put the line on to drain front sump to rear sump

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I will try to do this as soon as I get a project started and should be good!

[@robertclymer6948]

Yes, very much interested in knowing how to do myself. Thanks

[@jessekampegaard8491]

Thank you Ben ! Hope you and your family had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Love this guy , shop talk from a very genuine guy just winging it. I’ve learned so much from this channel, we are blessed to have him, and I’m sure I speak for most of us when I say just how much it’s appreciated you take the time you do to make these videos. Thanks again Ben.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I am deeply humbled to have helped many get better at their projects and there can be no better reward than to see a smile and appreciation. Thanks Jesse!

[@icetech6]

Love all the info Ben, thanks for the videos :) I could use a mopar guy that makes videos like this :)

[@mikes.1882]

It's all in the heads with mopar. Especially the big blocks. Indy big block heads with 64cc chambers and 0 deck height .040 quench , run a 440 crank in a 383 or 400 block, Now your talking. All your money is spent on pistons and heads and valve trane and oil pan and pickup. Big cam heavy springs means more gear to keep the rollers on the cam. Now your talking mo-par

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Mopars have awesome capabilities to get more torque even with heavy big cars! The 340/360's lend itself to big strokes because it has a wide crankcase to stuff big cranks for cubic power!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

@@mikes.1882 I love the B1 heads and have big time potential in most if not all applications to getting more power!

[@rcmustang5310]

Wish that forged 4.250" crank was available when I was building mine. I really wanted to have a 460 small block. Lol

[@rcmustang5310]

Also after we sonic tested my F4TZ roller block Dave at burbank speed said I could go .100 over but I stuck with .080 in case I ever needed a rebuild.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

You know this very well Ray and torque is king on the streets!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

@@rcmustang5310 what year was that block and a roller one I am trying to remember?

[@rcmustang5310]

​@@benalamedaracing2765 F4TZ was a 94+ factory roller. In fact I believe it was a Lightning engine because I got a set of true GT-40 heads off of it.

[@robertclymer6948]

@@rcmustang5310 Yes sir, 94-97 Looking for one now here in Michigan, to replace my 460 BBF in my 67 Mustang Gt.

[@williamzoom]

When my friends went to 331's & 347's I went to a 351 just because it was so much cheaper.

[@Olds_Pwr]

Any information on turbocharged 302 combos would be interesting to listen to as well.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I did several and usually there are others who stroke the crank too big and ends up slower! Boost is our cubic torque power and do not need to compromise the bottom end while boosting at the same time.

[@thegraystang66]

Cant wait to see what the 363 does in the mustang vs that 351w I just put in the f100

[@benalamedaracing2765]

The 363 should be awesome specially if it has decent street compression and cam!

[@thegraystang66]

@@benalamedaracing2765 Ben guess you didn't know it's me Gee HAHAHA

[@joe-hp4nk]

When you go with the longer stroke do you have any worries about rod stroke ratios? Or do you increase the rod length also to keep the same ratio?

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Good question Joe! I try to install the longest rod possible with any stroker combination and stay a little caution off the side with long strokes and very short rods!

[@bulldogbradford8081]

NICE VIDEO!!!!!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Glad you liked it!

[@moose65004]

I have a 306 with 11:1 compression with a s trim half dome piston

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Wow I bet that thing hauls ass! I balanced those combo's with a little bigger cam than usual and it works very well keeping out of trouble.

[@rickyfulks6656]

Whats ur minimum compression height Ben?

[@benalamedaracing2765]

It depends and for me I run the longest rod possible to fit inside the block and if it needs one ring with an oil control ring 2mm or thereabouts I will work with the compression height. Another is for what use because boosted/nitous requires a bit of piston crown to make it survive the conditions. It is more a concern on boosted and nitrous and NA I get kind of narrow. Best to speak to your piston maker because they will be the ones who will make them. Good luck.

[@joe-hp4nk]

I shoot for .035 - .045 deck height. Does it really matter how you get there? .020 in the hole with a .015 gasket or 0 deck with a .035 gasket, they're both .035 deck height.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Sounds like you got it figured out there Joe!

[@DSRE535]

Supposedly according to some old prostock information i read a long time ago it does matter, how much? A small amount, but anyways the theory is since the Gasket is a larger diameter than the bore size 99% of the time you get a “dirty” area in that space where the gasket is a larger OD, so have the piston close off some or all of that area you’re forcing more of the combustion to happen in the chamber I appreciate that!!

[@joe-hp4nk]

@@DSRE535 Good point, but when the gasket is compressed it closes in on the bore a little.

[@LoneWrencher]

ben,do you know grandpa hollywood and miss midnight maverick

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Where does Grandpa Hollywood reside at? Miss Maverick and our team are always pitted by each other at the track and she is a sweetheart and a good racer in her own right!

[@LoneWrencher]

@@benalamedaracing2765 thats tonys her boyfriend his nickname is grandpa hollywood.he drives the gray mare

[@benalamedaracing2765]

@@LoneWrencher Tony is a great guy and watch him one day arm wrestle a big buff dude and he beat him with hardly an effort! lol

[@LoneWrencher]

@@benalamedaracing2765 tony hangs out with the guys at streetracing channel and old mans garage i like them all.i would hate to see tony mad,he would be a real monster,but he is a easy going good dude

[@benalamedaracing2765]

@@LoneWrencher Tess and Tony are my favorite people I hang with at the track beside's Dan Dagata and crew! Tell T&T I said hello!

[@AmericanThunder]

If you really want a heavy flywheel for launching, use a Mustang II piece, it weighs 50 lbs

[@benalamedaracing2765]

They probably did that because it had soft bottom end pull!

[@AmericanThunder]

@benalamedaracing2765 The 2bbl 302 in those years was certainly anemic with 139 horsepower! Lol

[@timweb1510]

My roller 351w is weak and brought me anger for years. I’m pissed

[@adamballinger1358]

Put some good heads on it and be happy for years

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Tim, make sure the build foundation is sound and good! There should be no excuse for building a pig for racing! lol Just follow some of my points as well as others who have a worthwhile channel dispersing good info.

[@benalamedaracing2765]

@@adamballinger1358 that is a good start.

[@GrandPitoVic]

Wow!!! A 9.1 408??!!! That's almost as bad as a emission big block in the mid to late 70s lol!!!!

[@musclebone7875]

I'm running around 9.1 compression ratio on my mild 496 bbc and I love it. 600 foot pound of twisting torque 😆

[@GrandPitoVic]

@musclebone7875 N/a or boosted?

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Unfortunately some builds ends up lackluster in overall performance and no doubt they can fry the tires then after that fades. Or we hope not!

[@GrandPitoVic]

@@benalamedaracing2765 True!!!

[@musclebone7875]

@@GrandPitoVic natural aspirated

[@vrm86gt]

I agree the chevy TPI intake looks way better than the ford "vacuum cleaner" long runner!

[@Freedome-h9z]

Chevy smokes fire junk that's why!!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

Always my favorite factory intake bar none!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

I checked your channel and love your content! Nice hard running Fox you got there specially you are showing the vacuum gauge which for years I have used as a tuning device.

[@vrm86gt]

@@benalamedaracing2765 Thank you Ben! That means a lot coming from you! Vacuum gauge is real handy with a carb! I realized i wasn't getting full throttle with the gauge, took the car out and punched it and the vacuum only dropped to 5 so got back and checked and found out the secondaries were barely opening! But yes the vacuum gauge and afr gauge really helps!

[@benalamedaracing2765]

@@vrm86gt you are smart and with good observing traits and much success to you in the future! Again enjoyed your channel for real world fixes and issues reminding me of how I was back in the day. In fact people use to laugh when they saw my vacuum gauge beside my tach not knowing why for them! lol

[@jrsgarage3244]

Ben you should be using a lot of , 🚩Chevy Parts to make your 🚩Ford's go faster❤

[@joe-hp4nk]

FORD = First On Race Day

[@benalamedaracing2765]

We all swap stuff around and everyone loves the 9 inch ford! Anyway it is all similar now like the LS from crank to the engine layout similar to Fords and the latest iteration on the LS/LT they swap the intake to exhaust location and now I cannot even tell if a piston is for an LS or a Ford. They are all good!

[@dondownriver3464]

1994 on those ford sbf gear reduction starters

[@benalamedaracing2765]

You are correct I had to remember that during filming. Man I am getting old! lol

[@Freedome-h9z]

Lol all Ford JUNK😂😂

[@doublerrated6735]

Lol not funny ha ha

[@ryanwilliams2095]

Stupid comment

[@adamballinger1358]

You should keep your keyboard quiet ,you might learn something.

[@BrentFrancis-h8o]

You are probably a Harris voter

[@JG-kv4oi]

Childish, probably drives a Hyundai with a fart can whilst eating Hot pockets