$30K Shootout: Which Affordable New EV Is Best? Chevy Bolt vs MINI SE

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[@TFLEV]

Hey all! My MINI is up for Auction HERE: www.tflbids.com/product/2022-mini-cooper-se/

[@bentraeger230]

oh nooo you always loved him so much, how sad to see him go 😩

[@lizburgess4398]

Our Bolt Euv, delivery December 2022, did not have any dealer markup. It was a very good experience. We are retired, so the slow charging isn't an issue. Finding level 3 chargers in working condition is another thing altogether.

[@macbook802]

It gets easier... Where are you located?

[@lizburgess4398]

@matthew anderson Lansing, Michigan. There is one Electrify America on the west side and one Charge Point on the East Side. We're still waiting on the final inspection of our home charger.

[@macbook802]

@@lizburgess4398 we use to only use the fast chargers now we only use them maybe once every week or two. Most of the time we just have it plugged into the 110v charger that came in the trunk. There was a learning curve on the fast chargers for me anyways. The apps for ea and charge point ironed out most of the issues I used to run into.

[@macbook802]

@@lizburgess4398 oh it snows where you are too? I'm in Phoenix so I think our temperature helps

[@lizburgess4398]

@matthew anderson thanks, I'm sure once our charger is inspected and turned on, we'll charge at home too.

[@martalli]

Honestly, the Bolt is the real deal. It is a great car only limited by pokey fast charging. However, as a first car or a second, around-town grocery getter or commuter, it is an excellent car.

[@sonnyonny4900]

Which is 99% of the driving that all drivers do. Most people are not on the road every weekend. In fact for long road trips I have made it a practice for the last 20 years to get a rental I never put those type of road trip miles on my cars

[@KalleSWBeck]

The bolt is a better only car Mini is a better third car

[@nberkel]

My Mini Cooper SE is my favorite daily car I've ever had! Some of you early videos on your SE were the reason I got mine!

[@naughtysauce4323]

I don't even need to watch the video to say that it's the Bolt hands down.

[@davidhale9672]

Comparing a $37,000 interior to the $27,000 Bolt. Not comparable. I know you pointed it out, but it still ain't right.

[@sonnyonny4900]

To be honest with these cars are nowhere near the same level the bolt is far superior and if you want a more cushy ride get a bolt euv

[@davidhale9672]

@@sonnyonny4900 I agree- I have a Bolt on order. Reinstating the tax credit (plus $4000 more incentives here in Vermont) made this an incredible deal.

[@Docsarg]

Also the Bolt gets a $7,500 tax credit. No comparison

[@hereigoagain5050]

Tommy is at his best in comparisons. Really appreciate that he represents young people with limited means. BTW Has his girlfriend helped with his wardrobe?

[@mauriceetal1426]

Real question: does he still have his dog as his background pic?

[@hereigoagain5050]

@@mauriceetal1426 Ouch! Best not to ask. :)

[@hitman74]

Probably has worse clothes

[@evtrekker1317]

The charging speed for both these EV's has a hidden bonus. Instead of being tied to EA on long trips look for free charging in the area and they could be located at a more interesting place. Usually they are 50, 62 or even 120 kW Charge Point chargers. But when I did an 11k road trip in my Bolt-EV last summer, half my charging was free without much penalty in charging speed, which didn't bother me because I needed the rest driving all those miles. BTY the Bolt had no issues.

[@mjcmjc6428]

Bolt for sure. Thanks for the comparison.

[@ColJonSquall1]

If only the Mini had a bigger battery and maybe some faster charging, it'd be worth it for me. I'm not a huge fan of the Bolt's exterior styling, though the interior is better than the previous version. I kinda wish we had a more affordable EV (especially in Canada), where it has both the longer range and faster charging. Right now its just a premium vehicle that costs as much as a pickup truck these days, or a luxury car.

[@jp107ms]

Spec-wise the Bolt is ahead in most departments. Don't know about the reliability of both.

[@macbook802]

I'm 20k miles in with zero issues. I've done a few 2000 mile road trips. I've seen the old bolts at 100k miles

[@phgiblin]

This video is strangely perfectly timed... We bought a MINI SE last June for my daily driver and second car in the household. We are shopping now for a Bolt to replace my wife's car and our road trip car. They actually make a good affordable combo for what we need. PS: My take of the range of the MINI having lived with one... It's perfect for 99% of my driving. I've put 8,000 miles on it in 8 months driving around southern Connecticut, Mass, and Vermont (it was actually road-tripable with some planning). To each their own. If you need 300 miles of range, buy something else; Not everyone needs or wants the same features and that's ok.

[@teddysdadcory]

I researched the heck out of every EV available, and coming from a Volvo I have very high build quality standards. I absolutely LOVE my Mini Cooper SE. It is solid and confident, something the Volt lacks. There are a few quirks, but I feel like the pros far outweigh the cons.

[@CalebD413]

I commute 60 miles a day. Almost all highways. I absolutely love my Bolt and I never worry about range. It accelerates better than any other hatchback I've owned and the maintenance costs are very minimal. The Mini looks amazing but I'd worry about range living in the Southwest with our long drive times.

[@hitman74]

Just wait a couple years won't have the same range

[@bruceklassen8261]

Very informative thank you!!!

[@ronaldmail00]

I like to point out the comedy of one of the first video suggestions after this Mini comparison is a picture of Tommy holding his head in front of this Mini with the words "STRANDED!", lol.

[@Robothut]

Has anyone made a list of Chevy dealers that do not add a mark up per state. That would make a great video.

[@WhoIsThisGodPersonAnyway]

I really want that Chevy for my long, daily commute!

[@MediaDevice01]

Yup! 65 miles a day for me. I do have 10kw charging at work. But it's good to know I could skip charging 3 days and still be okay. I'd buy gas once a week when I drove ICE, so similar experience.

[@darkerbrother1]

Tommy I beg to differ with you. You can roadtrip with the Bolt and Bolt EUV. There are many videos to support my claim. I will grant you that whatever EV you have , it’s the region of the country that you live in that is your use determine factor. The West Coast and the East Coast are Prime areas for EV’s . For example the I 95 corridor even has FREE charging stations. Also most EV owners who own Bolts , charge at home. Here in the Midatlantic there are chargers everywhere .

[@lizburgess4398]

We're looking forward to traveling with ours. Ii just wish it. Could tow our teardrop camper (1200 lbs).

[@macbook802]

I've done several 2000 mile road trips in my 22 bolt. It's definitely not the best but it can do it. I factor double the time from what Google maps says

[@darkerbrother1]

@@lizburgess4398 There are a couple of couples that tow an Aliner camper with there Bolt. In fact they did a series on what tow hitch to use and everything

[@baptistpope]

Just think it may be another 5 years before I think I would consider any ev. The infrastructure isn't ready and they cost too much with too many sacrifices. Phev is plausible.

[@Juanchoo_133]

Yes, as a current EV owner, I don’t reccomend getting an EV because of the lack of chargers. It’s great for local driving but when it comes to further distances, it becomes an issue, I’ve had times where I’ve gone to chargers and the system is down or it’s full so it could be a headache… besides that, it’s a great vehicle but I am looking towards maybe trading in my bolt for the new Prius coming out

[@trenier23]

I received one of the first EUVs when production started up after the recall was done. I paid list price for mine and I don't think that the dealership has been marking them up. I can see the appeal of the Mini, I worked with a Doctor who had the original relaunch of the car in the early 2000s. Totally impractical but fun!

[@davva360]

The big problem with the mini is range. Yes it's ok as a commuter car but it is useless for road trips. The big problem with the chevy is while it has the range it is slow to charge so again, not a problem as a daily commenter where you are charging overnight at home, but its a problem if you need to go on a long trip in it. I love minis and would love an EV mini but it needs a 250 mile rings and 150KW charging at a minimum. Put that out for less than $30K and I will buy one tomorrow. If I had to buy one of these though it would be the Chevy even though I hate the design

[@Docsarg]

Bolt is great, just wish it charged faster. Plenty fun to drive-we fight over it 😊

[@ram33309]

Excellent video

[@evtrekker1317]

I'd also mention the 2nd gen Bolts have 11kW level 2 charging. Not sure about the Mini.

[@jodensmith5093]

If the mini had 200 miles of range I would buy one

[@transendre1]

A video on charge curve rate could help buyers understand how to plan trips or prepare for unexpected charging limitations.

[@lizburgess4398]

We love our Bolt EUV. We had an electrician trench across our yard to install a separate meter. Off peak rates will be .07. It was over $3000, but, we still can't use it because the utility has one guy that has to inspect it. The city inspector okayed it last week. Until the utility gets here, there's no meter. So frustrating! Electrify America is about 8 miles away and are offline a lot! Trying to charge the bolt on 110 will take several days. We're having Chevy install a 220 outlet for backup to use the dual charger that came with the car. To get the 7 cent rate, the charger has to be hard wired and on a separate meter. Do you think we'll live long enough to make it worthwhile?

[@palusisko]

It is really pity the Peugeot 208-e is not available in US, it has 50kwh battery, the good charging progress with long peek 100kw and it is much more spacious than Mini. The price begins at 28 000 Euros.. The same thing I can say about Opel Corsa-e and Citroen C4-e :-) Good review guys! PS: I consider the best small ev the Renault Megane etech but yes it costs 32000 Euros with only 40kwh battery...

[@chrisss73841]

You guys should get a Vinfast EV! I don't think anyone has bought one for themselves and really done any in depth reviews.

[@gqami]

When it comes to fit/finish, Mini makes how many vehicles, how many vehicles each year does Chevy / GM build? I get that there's unique elements to the Bolt, versus other car, but I get it, fit / finish has always been an issue with big 3 when it comes to interior design, infotainment systems, up until the past few years. Great job!

[@davidgiles9751]

Can you guys PLEASE do a video on how to file your taxes to recoup the EV tax credit - both Federal AND State. Still lots of confusion out there about the subject, and in Colorado, they haven't made it very easy...

[@lizburgess4398]

The tax credit will be on the 2023 tax return, right?

[@hlyles32]

I use H&R Block tax software and it has a section to identify the make and model, VIN, and day or purchase. You might have to identify the credit amount for your vehicle and that should be it. The software did the rest.

[@Qrail]

@@hlyles32 use form 8936 and rule 25. I am not an accountant, but I did a lot reading. I missed the income level by $364, and my car was $3,898 higher than allowed.

[@hlyles32]

That's a bummer, but might be a legit 1st world problem. The rules seem to be changing by the day. 18 April is the next key date, after which, the number of that rate a full $7500 or close to that will shrink much more.

[@gregghorner9107]

The Federal return makes it easy and it takes a few minutes at most. My State of California makes it very difficult, requiring all sorts of documentation.

[@pogo1140]

My problem with the mini is that's i'd be hitting the DC fast charger 3 times a day and spending what 90 minutes charging. They say the Cooper will be getting more range but I've not seen anything about that for US models

[@toskin6395]

Your commute is 300 miles?

[@pogo1140]

@@toskin6395 200-250 for work as I go from one inspection to another + the trip home. Most is highway miles 60-70mph.

[@youdontknowme2915]

Lack of Range on the Mini is a deal breaker… no thank you

[@thomasr4414]

Or jus don’t get an EV cuz they are just as bad as engines

[@teddysdadcory]

You might be surprised. I live way out in the burbs and my Mini has handled my trips surprisingly well.

[@hitman74]

I would rather drive something from the 80s or 90s then drive the Chevy EV

[@thomasr4414]

@@hitman74 I would agree

[@youdontknowme2915]

@@hitman74 My EV costs me $0.46 to drive 30 miles and my ICE cost me $3.19 to drive 30 miles…. I will stick with the EV…

[@carlov.3017]

Are the batteries NCM or LFP? Also, what is your take on manufacturers shifting to LFP? Isnt it a huge step backwards? Thanks for the videos.

[@bytemark6508]

Bolt EV and EUV both have LG NMC prismatic batteries. There was the Chevy Spark 2014 and some 2015 who had LFP. Right now, the only car you can buy in USA with LFP is Tesla model 3 RWD. Ford is planning building an LFP factory in USA in colab with CATL, and also, I've heard VW might make some models with LFP. Also Mercedes wants them, but it might not make their way to USA.

[@laloajuria4678]

lfp for cheap cars is the best tech right now....

[@carlov.3017]

@@bytemark6508 Thanks for the info.

[@PC-vq5ud]

@@bytemark6508 LFP batteries have lower energy density and weigh more. They cost substantially less to make. LFP are rated to have 50% to 100% more discharge/recharge cycles. Using 100% of your charge does not degrade the LFP as fast as NMC. The main disadvantage? They are all made in China currently.

[@vincentrobinette1507]

For me, the Bolt, for sure. I like being able to make the journey on one charge, and charge at home. I'm afraid, the Mini would require destination charging, or, a quick "top up" at a public station, especially, in cold weather. (heater on) It wouldn't take long, but it would be " out of my way" to do it.

[@allentoyokawa9068]

Chevy all day, no comparison.

[@evankatz2893]

Tommy I want a Hula Girl for my 2023 Brand New Countryman All 4 s where did you guys get them from , Thanks From a viewer since day 1.

[@TFLEV]

Advanced Auto

[@r5LgxTbQ]

I'd like to see the MINI compared to the MX-30. Similar range, price, and interior quality I think. But the MX-30 gets panned for its range.

[@sonnyonny4900]

The Mini should definitely be panned for it's range. That 130 range could easily become 90 to 100 miles in the cold

[@beanapprentice1687]

@@sonnyonny4900 yep... the mini is a terrible deal.

[@allentoyokawa9068]

MX-30 is far better

[@whynotthinkwhynot-]

Hey TFL, I have an experiment with the Bolt that might be fun, and something people would be interested in- how about comparing the Bolt with 15” wheels (215/60/15 tires) with the factory 17’s? Not only do smaller wheels take rolling weight off, but you get more cushion. I could see where there might be some drawbacks and dangers due to the availability of 2 ply sidewalls in 15”, and weight per wheel issues- but on paper lighter wheels should increase range by 8% according to Engineering Explained.

[@PC-vq5ud]

Tires for EVs have to be engineered for the torque produced and overall vehicle weight. Does any tire manufacturer make 15" EV tires?

[@whynotthinkwhynot-]

@@PC-vq5ud - I believe the only difference would be weight rating, and side wall. Typically EVs do support more weight per wheel, but most good tires will support enough to fit within specs. I’d want a 2 ply side wall, and a tire with a high weight rating likely has a 2 ply sidewall. The other EV spec difference would be low rolling resistance to increase fuel economy. Surely you are correct that nobody makes EV tires in 15’s because no manufacturer puts 15’s on EVs that I know of. You are not correct about EV torque affecting what tires are needed for EVs. I mean I’ve had even single ply sidewalls on 15” wheel vehicles with more torque, even more torque at low rpm than a Bolt- and that was never a concern. There is an Engineering Explained video you might want to see about using smaller wheels on EVs in which he uses formulas to calculate the change in range- which was significant for dropping wheel size by 2 inches- 8% per inch of wheel. That’s on paper- a true road test could yield something different. He also explains what difference LRR tires make for EV range- or any car range. There are a lot of Canadians on Bolt Forums using steel 15’s from Cruze’s on Bolts for winter tires. I would only personally want a 2 ply sidewall in case of emergency maneuvering.

[@whynotthinkwhynot-]

BTW… I searched Tire Rack and found an “Eco Focus” tire with low noise in 215/65/15 that has a 2 ply sidewall, and a max load of 1565 lbs per tire- Hanook Kinergy ST. Tire rack’s first recommendation for a Bolt EUV with 215/50/17s is a Michelin CrossClimate2 if you select the “Eco Focus” filter. It has a 1521 lb rating per tire, is 25.5” OD, and weighs 24 lbs. The Hanook only weighs 20 lbs with a 25.9” OD, and has a higher tread wear rating. Before even taking wheel weight into account- that’s a 4 lb difference. I’m sure it’s possible to shed another 10 lbs of weight between a factory 17 and an aftermarket 15” wheel. I’d want to look closely at the weight ratings of the wheel though. One online sleuth found a 15” chromed aluminum Cruze Eco model wheel would fit a Bolt EV- I don’t know if the EUV is different- but surely appropriate specs can be found.

[@PC-vq5ud]

@@whynotthinkwhynot- Great research

[@whynotthinkwhynot-]

@@PC-vq5ud -- Thanks! It’s either a sign that I don’t have anything to do in life, or it’s that I will be the owner of a Bolt EUV in the next few months- ok, both. The EUV only has an EPA estimated range of 247 miles, and a 70 mph range of 233 miles. That EE video shows a 8-15% increase in range on a Tesla Model 3 Performance using Tesla’s submissions to the EPA between 20”, 19”, and 18” wheels. I have a 200 mile trip I need to take where I won’t be able to charge anywhere but at the ends. I could use another route with chargers, but that would add 80 miles to the trip. If I can find a way to add 10% more range- that will give me more of a comfort zone for unknowns like wind, headlights, or 300-400 lb added cargo weight. FYI: I was not able to find a 215/60/15, and I just got lucky on a 65. More sidewall height means less issues with potholes too!!!

[@TrevorVaubel]

I want Ford to make their version of the Bolt. 😭

[@MihneaStoian]

I love the carbon look, but with that in mind, people need to easily identify the cars, too. I'd say if F1 mandates a minimum painted area for all teams, that would be super easy to ensure we're not going to end up with 10-14 black cars that the casual fans can't identify.

[@timoliver8940]

If you are a single person just doing the shopping / commuting run and want some fun then NOTHING beats the Mini for smiles per mile. I’ve owned mine for 1.5 years, nothing has broken or fallen off, it’s completely rattle free and hasn’t been near the dealership in that time - next visit will be November 2023. On our potholed rough roads here in Scotland it rides surprisingly well - as good as my 2020 Air Susupended Land Rover Defender but without all the rattles and leaks of it. Sure it has a small range BUT it is primarily a city car not a continent crossing car and a small battery means less time to charge it up. One drawback I have found is charging in cold weather- you cannot pre condition the battery unless the car is plugged into a charger - like today I charged 22kWhr into the battery on a 50kW charger and it took 40 minutes because it was cold gating and reached a maximum charge rate of 33kW but now I’m at home it’s plugged into my solar panels sipping in a top up after driving 18 miles back from town and will be back to 100% (Mini’s BMS always takes it to 100% as there is a small top buffer to protect it) in no time at all on my 7.2kW home charger fed by the solar.

[@gregghorner9107]

I bought the mini in 2022 and paid only $23k after the federal credit. Mini has lost the credit, however, so the Bolt is a much better deal now.

[@1971hilaker]

Of course it’s over $30,000. So not for this segment, but I may have missed your review of one.

[@KalleSWBeck]

Saying the bolt is the clear winner is like saying people should only buy Honda Civics

[@ammardalati510]

they should

[@aaronbritt2025]

In short... If you want fun, Cooper SE. If you want practicality, Bolt.

[@johncipolletti5611]

The only problem is that the Bolt isn't making a big enough profit for GM! So, they are talking about canceling the Bolt! Oh, the Mini is great for driving if you are under 5 feet tall! The Bolt has a secret called a regen! It is better at it than any of the other EVs, including the Tesla!

[@juanvga]

I do prefer range than luxury

[@igeekone]

Bolt wins immensely, going by everyday usability. It has over double the range of the Mini and has way more room inside. Mini just has the fun factor to it.

[@fluffysheap]

The Mini is obviously more fun, but the Bolt costs less and has twice the range. I need 80 miles round trip on mountain highways - after derating for terrain, aging, and temperature, the Mini can't make the trip.

[@1971hilaker]

How about the Kona se, lots of range and fun to drive, especially in sport mode.

[@Sivaprsx]

tesla prices have fallen off a cliff, I would go for a used standard range plus over either of these choices.

[@nlken7175]

Tommy is too much of a fan boy of Mini's to do a comparison. Let Nathan redo this.

[@ChannelNews1]

Electric car conversion would be an environmental disaster. Who would you buy one?

[@RomanChaar]

who cares about driving dynamics when if you actually want to drive it "fun" you wont be able to go more than 100 miles at a time, and then level 3 trickle charge

[@jonlee580]

They go for around the same price..I rather get the mini

[@PC-vq5ud]

Let us keep in mind that many consider the Mini gas car the worst quality and reliability vehicle sold in the US, especially by BMW mechanics. You can find them cheap with low miles and lots of mechanical issues. Hope that the electric Mini is more like the I3 on the reliability scale. ICE BMWs are a money pit after 100,000 miles.

[@oogabooga72]

That's the 'burning' question isnt it?

[@caraziegel7652]

Wow! I have been wanting a Hyundai Kona EV, with the Bolt as a backup option. I hadnt looked at the Mini really at all but - i actually DO care about drive quality. I currently drive a 5-speed manual Mazda and I love the way it handles. I will have to seriously consider the mini!

[@H8onG]

You would enjoy the Kona over the Bolt trust me. The bolt is very uncomfortable, I’m 5’8 170lbs and the seats are very stiff even for me.

[@caraziegel7652]

@@H8onG I'm 5'2 and I've been driving a mazda5 which is now 16 years old - comfort is not a huge thing for me. The biggest issue w the Kona is that the model is changing to something I find incredibly ugly. I want a blue one and I'm worried they arent even making it in blue any more because the Hyndai website 'build' feature does not have blue for the SE model. A few blue models came in stock near me and vanished quickly. My husband gets laid off in a week so there's no way we're buying a new car before he gets a new job - my 16 yo mazda is actually running fine. Its just a lot more car than i need any more, and i would love to never have ot go to the gas station again!

[@H8onG]

@@caraziegel7652 I understand what you are saying, we are just now really dipping into the whole EV thing and I’m not sure where you live but the infrastructure is still pretty bad in some areas unless you have a Tesla. I really think a hybrid is the way to go at the moment. A Corolla hybrid is a great option that is not to expensive. But honestly if it was me looking into a EV I would only buy a over priced Tesla if I really wanted one. If not just hold out a little longer and treat that Mazda well!

[@caraziegel7652]

@@H8onG sure, but if i can charge and home and i only drive 40 miles a day, that doesnt matter to me. we still will have 2 gas cars. and last time i wanted to do a long trip, the dealer said my 16 yo car wasnt up for it, so I rented a car anyways.

[@H8onG]

@@caraziegel7652 if that’s the case, look into something like a Hyundai Santa Fe plug in hybrid. It does about 40 miles on pure electric driving. The wrangler also does the same. There are a few vehicles that accomplish what you need.

[@jonlee580]

I would rather get a used bmw I3

[@WhoIsThisGodPersonAnyway]

Tommy, you can hardly see your girlfriend with the Mini. It doesn’t feel like it fits your lifestyle

[@PsychedMedia]

Too bad u don't get the mg4 or byd atto 3

[@Yihooni]

No thanks. I don’t want to die in a ball of fire in a chinese car😅

[@markf1548]

What happened when you have to spend $20k on a new battery? You talk about maintenance expense.

[@kman0074]

Cause they last just as long as an engine. Mines a 2013 with 200,000 miles still 90% of original range. And a new engine and transmission isn’t exactly cheap either.

[@rogermartinez78]

I chose the Mini Cooper and I converted my car to a two seater, and she has gained additional range.

[@georgeh6856]

Correction: when comparing two items, one of the two may be better, but not the best. Only use the word "best" when comparing three or more items.

[@mrmawson2438]

Bolt and MG4 would be a good test

[@laloajuria4678]

sir this is america.

[@mrmawson2438]

@@laloajuria4678 I would have thought the MG4 would be world wide

[@laloajuria4678]

@@mrmawson2438 its a chinese ccp company making a british car......just let that percolate a little....

[@H8onG]

I’m sorry but the seats on the Bolt SUCK! I installed a katzkin leather kit along with a set of seat heaters and my god those seats are hard. The side outer trim where your power seat switches are is very hard plastic that every time you get in and out of the vehicle you feel it on the back of your legs and it is not pleasant. I tend to drive a ton of vehicles and there is no way I could handle a Bolt for daily driving. If anyone is considering one please go drive it. It’s great in some categories but not comfort.

[@fvvfvbbbb]

What year do you have. We have a 2023 Bolt EUV with stock leather seats. They are ok, not great and could still use some improvement. Did not care for the seats in the older bolts at all and that keep us from buying one along with the plasticy dash. 2022 updates are pretty nice overall.

[@H8onG]

@@fvvfvbbbb forgot to mention it was 2023 with maybe 150 miles on it.

[@Docsarg]

Hmmm. We have a leased 2019. Have taken on 500 mile round trip road trip. Charging is an issue but had no issues with seats.

[@fvvfvbbbb]

@@H8onG ours has about 2000 miles on it now and the leather has softened up a little. Hopefully yours will too. We do wish they were an inch or two wider. Seems there is room to have made them a little wider. There seems to be a weird fit at the shoulder blades too. In my opinion the seats went from a 4 to a 7. Still room for improvement for sure. Did the aftermarket leather help?

[@larryspiller15]

Model 3

[@skyhawk21]

Good ole tommy boy with miss colored pants and Colorado winter gear on… showing us cars we can’t afford nor find anywhere…I’m from pnw

[@dadbain]

Both are cars for shorter younger people. If you're 6foot 6inches tall or even shorter I've been told , it's not for you. If you're 70 years old or even younger and tall, definitely not for you, even as a passenger. Even if my grandchildren could contort themselves to drive either car they couldn't give me a ride. Now some of those goody and oldies that you show on your classic channel are worth a second look. If they aren't electric, so what are we supposed to do about that? I know drive F150 lightenings $$$ or just regular fullsized ice pickups and SUVs. Try getting four or more people between 6 foot 2 inches and 6' 11" tall into one vehicle and see our dilemma. So untill reasonably priced used fullsized EVs come on the market or my grandchildren become affluent, sadly there remains a spot in the market for gasoline guzzling land yachts.

[@treads2595]

I understand the need to produce content, but this video is totally unnecessary. The Bolt has a range of 259 while the Mini barely does 110. Once you know that, the answer is clear.

[@caraziegel7652]

I disagree. I commute to work and grocery store and nothing else. I"m giving up a 5-speed manual mazda - vroom-vroom - to go electric. This review made me actually consider the mini

[@treads2595]

@@caraziegel7652 So you are okay charging the Mini twice as much as you would have to charge the Bolt? Interesting take, but the average person prefers range above all else so I don't expect many people to want the Mini over the Bolt, especially if they research Mini's reliability history.

[@caraziegel7652]

@@treads2595 its a possibility. But you know, thats why there are lots of kinds of cars - because different people have different priorities

[@pfantom777]

​@@caraziegel7652 I don't know how you use your EV, but mine just plugs in while I'm doing other things - takes 5 seconds to plug in when I park. It's not like it's a hassle to "charge twice as often" if the use case does not involve long stretches of driving.

[@KalleSWBeck]

Not really range is over blown and lots of households have multiple cars. The mini is a much more upscale and dynamic car. So for example my wife could have this to drive her 6 miles to work everyday like she does her current ICE mini We can drive my truck for going out of town. The bolt is a better only car for sure as it’s more useable range

[@imaqu33fer]

Can u hook it up with a job man??

[@lindsey349]

mini coopers are junk

[@kennethjinkins8967]

2 useless vehicles and you wanna pick the worst ... ha ha ha

[@mumwifeteacher]

You need to pitch your “get your self a sandwich” to subway for a new ad campaign to target ev owners.