5th Gear Towing

360 Gearboxes and Diffs talks about towing in your 4WD, especially towing in 5th gear and their TOWPACK solution

[@overlandready]

To be fair, it's not a gearbox issue per se, it's a drive style issue, most people don't addapt their driving when towing, but let's just say I've towed maximum permissible weights a fair amount and never killed a gearbox, Doesn't matter if it is on an old Ford Escort or a Land Rover, or Transit, you don't put excessive torque through the box in 5th as it's not ideal, however 4th is 1:1 and doesn't drive through the lay shaft, it does howver if too much torque is required it takes out the bearing in the back of the input shaft. as that is the stress point. The gearbox shown has had an oil starvation or shock load failure, if it was towing torque then it would also damage the initial lay shaft gear, what the presenter called 4th gear. for reference there is often a bearing in the centre plate so 5th is actually trapped between 2 bearings, that removes twist in the main shaft, so if the 1st gear thrust washer is broken, it suggests that it's not towing in 5th that killed the gearbox, but poor pullaways or lack of oil...

[@notrut]

Complete agreement from NE England. I used to manage a Fleet of 350 3.5Tonne Utility vans, most of which pulled compressors or Mini-diggers/Trailers. Obviously NOT in Outback terrain ... but Clutch & 1st gear or 5th gear failure was endemic.

[@matthewhayes7765]

Hiya Pal. You seem to know yours stuff. This info seems to be targeted at the previous gen 5 speed boxes. I've just bought a new one with a 6 speed box. Which gears are best for towing with the new gen 6 speed boxes? Is it still 4th? Or does that change with a 6 speed?

[@simonmul449]

I agree that 5th gear towing is not advice in most applications. But some gearboxes such as the H150/151F are strongat than most overdrive gears and with only a 0.881 ratio it isn't a huge OD.

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[@leck31]

Any advice on towing with the new hilux six speed manual gearbox what gear is best for towing?

[@matthewhayes7765]

I was interested in this too. This video seems to be targeted at the 5 speed gear boxes. I've just got a new Dmax with a 6 speed box. Did you ever find out what's best on the new 6 speed pick ups?

[@pop62]

4th gear is 1 to1 in the new 6 speed

[@smatt9993]

What do you concider to be a late model hilux?

[@Raiarii14]

What about driving uphill in 5th gear ?

[@irishlad7458]

I got told with Ford rangers it's a design fault even if you don't tow a macanic said if you jack your truk up put an extra half litre of lube in it stops 5th from being starved of oil this true

[@josevicenteparrasanchez5370]

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[@josevicenteparrasanchez5370]

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[@josevicenteparrasanchez5370]

Necesito aprender a reparar una caja de cambios de Toyota 4.5 me pueden colaborar con eso

[@ronaldmutai8388]

Gearbox dismantle

[@tocayo3603]

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