3dRap Fanatec CSL Pedals - Brake Clutch & Throttle Mod Reviews

[@brunocauin]

Thanks, mate!

[@cyberadam8491]

I have the zero-noise mod for all 3 pedals and for me, which i play mostly at evening after work, they worth every single euro spent

[@tonytodd9317]

Great videos mate , got the load cell mode , big difference for me . I am always to heavy on acceleration, do you think basic acceleration mod would help?

[@mgsperformancerc]

Just picked up a 3drap throttle and clutch unit for my incoming CSL Pedals. Perhaps when this video was made they only offered one part # but they are definitely different in that that the ramp profiles are different between the clutch and throttle inserts and they are labeled as such. One other change that looks like was implemented was they use a triangular key to attach the arm the to the flexible TPU rather than the star shape shown in the video below. Verdict is out for me if they make a difference yet as I'm still setting up my rig but figured I'd help clear up any misunderstandings about the actual product.

[@Bedrick]

How do you find the clutch mod?

[@Frikoo]

Hadn't the patience to wait on your review so I bought throttle mod and other things from 3DRap. The throttle mod "plate" is different from clutch plate and there is no dual action on that mod. It gives the throttle pedal a little bit of the much needed resistance. Before this mod I was using the clutch pedal as a throttle because the original throttle pedal is just too weak. Now they are pretty much the same. But overall these mods are just too expensive. They do make the pedals better but I spent 100€ on them and I do regret it a bit...

[@KarlGosling]

Thats weird, both mine are identical and the website lists them as the same item too?! But yeah aside from the brake mods the rest are not great.

[@Frikoo]

@@KarlGosling My throttle insert has a write-in "Vintage" or "Modern" THR. Clutch insert probably has "CLH" or something like that.

[@aznaxel]

I'm kinda curious why the 3drap stuff cost so much if it's just 3d printed parts and elastomer material. Is it how it's being produced?

[@ACasualRacer]

It's just a big markup, costs less than $1. I have a 3d printer myself...

[@InformatrIIcks]

Because Sim Racing is already a niche market, so doing a niche product for a niche market means you won't sell much. And there's a guy that spent a lot of time (and some money) prototyping and developing a product, and he would like to make a bit of money on his effort. That said, yes, it's all 3d printed. So you can grab a 3d printer (700€ for a decent one), some filament (50€/kg for decent stuff), learn 3d modelling, prototype a product, test, refine, retest, repeat until you are satisfied, and finally play your favourite racing simulator... Or you can just spend the few bucks asked to compensate someone doing all this for you. There is a difference between expensive and overpriced. I think that these mods are expensive but definitely not overpriced

[@3DRapSimRacing]

@@InformatrIIcks Thanks for your understanding and sensitivity :)

[@RyanBedecki]

It's not always cost of materials. 3d printing can take a ton of time, and that has to be factored into cost. Is my best guess

[@drizz786]

Nice review, fyi if you take the original elastomer from the stock brake and use it to replace a washer and elastomer on the load cell, it has a nice initial give, been tinkering so thought id share. Keep up the grand work.

[@grahamhill4113]

I did this and agree they feel a lot better

[@ThePerks2010]

Bit off topic i know, ever thought about doing a series for us older folks haha I'm looking for decent back support/cushion for a racing seat cos i just upgraded from my playseat to a forest setup(tubular build £300 but my god the seat is like a paving slab) so until it breaks in i need help!!!

[@KarlGosling]

lol I haven' t mate no sorry.

[@Redmist370Z]

Do you think they are talking about the two step feeling of an old school 4 barrel carburetor where the second set of butterfly's open as you push the pedal further? I am really aging my self...

[@Redmist370Z]

And for all you millennials. Butterfly = Throttle Body

[@KarlGosling]

Hmm could be mate yes! Thats really before my time too.

[@speedy_cheetah6425]

Hey karl, i just got the brake pro kit cause of your video i am having trouble calibrating it can you help?

[@hawkeyes4768]

these things cost 10-50 cents to print, the price tag for them are insane

[@InformatrIIcks]

Please launch a company where you sell the same products for a few $. You'll quickly understand that those, even if expensive, aren't overpriced.

[@andrewgiovannini6613]

Design + R&D = Time = Cost... it's not just the cost of the raw material and manufacturing process.... whatever it may be.

[@rubberneckrides5940]

It’s good to see companies innovating and improving on the CSL pedals but these are terribly overpriced for what they are

[@InformatrIIcks]

They are expensive, not overpriced. I can guarantee that the guy selling those isn't making a fortune ...

[@imjustinb]

Def agree, insanely overpriced.

[@InformatrIIcks]

@@imjustinb very expensive. Not overpriced. If you really think they are overpriced please start your own company with fairly priced alternative. I'll be your first customer. But I don't think you'll be able to be much cheaper than them if you're trying to not loose money in the process

[@InformatrIIcks]

@@jeffreybankers3988 production cost of the iPhone is 200-300$, what's your point ? If you knew how pricing works, you'll know that manufacturing costs are often not the most expensive parts. But once again I challenge you to create a competing company and sell mods for a fraction of the cost, i'll be your first customer...

[@Zaratoustras750]

Thank you for all your help through the videos Karl, I am really greatful! These mods seem useful for us without the load cell yet and shall give it a try. May I ask a question, do you reckon the art cockpit will hold the csl dd(8nm) and pedals well enough with your mods? Thank you in advance, keep it up!

[@KarlGosling]

It certainly will mate yes :)

[@Zaratoustras750]

@@KarlGosling Thank you a lot for the response Karl, have a great weekend!

[@giggsow9760]

Nice review! Which would you prefer out of these or the race sim engineering ones you tested before the the throttle and clutch? I want a bit more resistance from my pedals

[@KarlGosling]

RSE All day long mate.

[@88johnnymc]

Interested to know if the Brake Pro Kit would work as a mod for the original CSL Elite pedals that were discontinued. Or is the foam wedge a different shape.

[@MRD0889]

Well, actually, that same foam pad that comes with the regular brake, which is the one that turns into a brake. That same foam, you remove it from that now clutch and remove an elastomer from the load cell and replace it with that foam piece, and now you have a load cell that will give you travel now for reference when you start adjusting your load cell. Also, lol, 1 1/2 Rc plane landing wheels. You get two of them.< Make sure they're the thicker ones that are more gray than black>. Once again, you remove an Elastomer from the stack and replace it with both of the RC planes 2 wheels. This mod helps sooo much and the first one is a freebie if you think about it.

[@Bonoscot]

Love you channel btw...well done on the reviews. However i personally cannot appreciate any of Fanatecs products from now on due to absolute disgrace of the Support problems they have. If anyone is thinking of buying Fanatecs products please look at the forums before purchasing. Having purchased over £2000 of equipment and having some issues they have been an absolute disgrace in dealing with problems.

[@shankly1985]

While I am not disagree with you, I will share my recent experience buying from fenatec. Pre-ordered csl dd 8nm wheel, pedals etc 21st of April and received my stuff last week. So far all working has it should be so not had any chance to experience customer support but what I will tell you is if any company has a type of fourm available you will more than likely see people complaining about issues. People with issues complain, people that don't tend to not post so it seems that the issue with support gets much worse than it appears to actually be the truth. Not only that every at the moment is high in demand covid and Ukraine war hasn't helped either. Covid staffing issue, Ukraine hardware suppliers issues.

[@daz2.058]

@@shankly1985 Ukraine hardware suppliers issues? maybe if the hardware is a Next Generation Light Anti-Armour Weapon

[@shankly1985]

@@daz2.058 Ukraine has massive issues getting imports into the EU from Russia Russia's metal exports is of vast consequence to global markets -- it's a key supplier of palladium, nickel, aluminum, steel and copper. Prices for all of those metals set new all-time highs in March, although steel is the only one to be the direct target of sanctions so far.4 Apr 2022 Ukraine supply massive amount of ion and steel but obviously that country is not operating like it once was. Hell even the company I work for has had to change sunflower oil to rapeseed oil due to supply and cost.

[@daz2.058]

@@shankly1985 we could still buy it of Russia I think we are entering a new era of man where we will starve and freeze to death on a mountain of coal and cheese