4,000 MILES ON A STOCK GROM -- 2022 Honda Grom Review

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My thoughts and opinions after putting 4,000 miles on the new generation of Grom

[@RichardBessel-hd7pq]

I’ve got the exact same Grom ‘22 SP with 6K+ miles. I’m 71. The only thing I changed was I bought extenders for my mirrors that extend them out almost 2” and they actually say Grom on them. Now I can see past my shoulders both sides. Found them online somewhere. And super easy to install. Other than that all stock still and love it.

[@heyoldtime8969]

Please tell me where you got them. Please !!

[@heyoldtime8969]

Finely someone that loves their Grom stock. Amen. I'm 70 and just bought a 2024 Grom. I'm going to leave it stock. I've got a 350 mile trip planned on the secondary roads to Savanna Ga. A1A to highway 17. I'm stoked.

[@armchairbikerstv]

That’s awesome to hear! Nothing better than big trips on little bikes. Best of luck and congrats on the new Grom!

[@ProDigit80]

You'd love a sprocket change on this. They all buzz too high in rpms. Swapping out the front 15t sprocket for a 17t, will allow your bike to rev ~10% lower rpm. Same for the rear, you can swap out the rear 34T for a 30-32T, and gain another ~10%, resulting in 20% taller gears. That means 20% lower rpm per any given speed in final gear, and anywhere from 15-20% better mpg even! This is probably the best mod you can make for long rides.

[@kamolhengkiatisak1527]

@@ProDigit80 It would not do if you are over 100kg. If you are under 80kg, it is fine. I think Honda configure the Grom's gear ratio for the heavy/obese Americans.

[@FellipeRodrigues89]

I also have a ‘23 stock with 3400 miles

[@cookingwithchris7212]

Also have a sp 22 . Way better in terms of mechanics over the previous years ( stock ) not as pretty but that can always be changed . 5th gear is most necessary, the fact you can change the oil in minutes now with the oil filter is a big plus as well . Much higher top end (stock ) I’ve hit 75 mph with a full tuck , 60-65 sitting up right . Flat road no wind but I only weigh 125 lbs . Averaging 130 miles to the gallon . About $4 to fill the tank . So for 4 bucks I can go about 200 miles ….. parking is amazing as is commuting so light and small you can pick the bike up with one hand if you need to . Love it

[@armchairbikerstv]

Couldn't agree more! Thanks for watching!

[@allanweseman5433]

I am a 283lb 75 year old man. I have two other Hondas and traded in my '94 Yam V-max on an all black '23 Grom on 3/1/23. It is not fully broken in yet but I feel 60MPH will be tops for my weight. I think mine will go as fast or faster in 4th gear. The only changes I would make if I were Honda is give the bike self-canceling turn signals and extend the mirrors out an extra inch. My hip will no longer let me swing my leg over a bigger bike and my Grom does just fine.

[@armchairbikerstv]

Great to hear you’re still out there riding! Maybe you’d benefit from some bar end mirrors? Thanks for watching!

[@womanhoodisnotacostume7648]

I'm 5'3 about 135 lbs. Do you think it will make different on the speed? Looking for a small frame bike for small frame me.

[@allanweseman5433]

@@armchairbikerstv I bought a set of bare end mirrors, but the phillips screw at the handle bar ends will NOT unscrew. Any Ideas?

[@armchairbikerstv]

@@womanhoodisnotacostume7648 I’m actually just about the same weight so you should be able to hit 65 or a little faster with a downhill

[@ziploco]

Great video man was looking for a more recent one after watching all the ones already out there on it, this is refreshing thanks

[@armchairbikerstv]

Thanks so much for watching, more to come soon!

[@mew1216]

I've done the fender eliminator kit and TST rear tailight with integrated turn signals. (You do need their adjustable signal flasher relay for this as well) TST flush mount front signals. Full Pipe, MNNTBX Cool Air Intake, ECU reflash. Moto bars with two finger levers and bar end mirrors. To your point, definitely an easy bike to make your own. I think my next mod will be the Big Bore Kit with a Cam and oil cooler. I generally just cruise back country roads on it and enjoy throwing it around in turns. And, totally agree - wide bars make it super fun! Also, as I've taken OE stuff off and put aftermarket stuff on, I've been weighing the differences. To date, I've shaved around 8.5lbs of weight on the bike. (The OE rear factory license plate dongle alone - good lord - talk about over built!)

[@Metalbass1979]

Another great video! I'm loving the mini moto content. I can't wait to see your 4k mile update on the Papio next. (I'm hitting 800 miles on mine in the next day or so and it seems like it's getting smoother and the seat more comfortable.)

[@armchairbikerstv]

Thanks so much! The break-in on the Papio is certainly noticeable as you put miles on it, we experienced the same thing

[@Jones-xx2gc]

I had one of the original Groms and loved it. This latest version seems much improved. Just wish the factory exhausts were stainless instead of being painted steel.

[@nickgiard8553]

Awesome vid, I am picking up a 2023 grom SP ABS next week and plan on actually leaving it stock also. I think you are the only guy that left it stock on KZbin. Great vid, loved it

[@armchairbikerstv]

Thanks so much for watching! Congrats on the new bike, glad to hear you were able to find one.

[@nickgiard8553]

@@armchairbikerstv yeah I had one on order for 3 months then randomly called a few other dealers for fun and found one just coming out of the crate and not spoken for. 2.5hr drive to go get it but well worth it to me.

[@garymiller3754]

I also have a 2023 ABS grom i left stock, could not find one in my area, but found one 440mi away in stock, so we did a turn and burn to Iowa from Illinois, picked it up and turned around and headed home the same day. I will never put add ons or mess with the motor, it is just to dependable the way it is, and im 70yrs old, and this little bike is one of the only things that brings me joy, i may buy a small bike with more power, and top speed, but my grom stays stock, and right now its winter, and its sitting in my utility room next to the furnace keeping it nice and warm until riding season again.

[@armchairbikerstv]

@@garymiller3754 Awesome to hear you're still out there riding! Thanks for watching!

[@garymiller3754]

@@armchairbikerstv Thanks, Glad to still be able to ride after 6 foot surgeries over the last 6-8yrs, and im one of those guys that thinks age is just a number, and after the Harley's, and goldwings, im still partial to Hondas, that's one reason i bought the Grom soon as i found it. Light weight, and it gets me anywhere i want to ride within reason, and only weighs north of 200lbs. Ride safe.

[@NarySllim]

Huge grom fan, love my 22s. Great video.

[@armchairbikerstv]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnw65]

Dropping the front sprocket one tooth will add to your torque and add 4mph to the topend! YES, the Grom will hold 64mph on the flat and hit 69mph with a tailwind!

[@aceventure8696]

I'm 160lbs and my 22 Grom does 65mph all day 72 down hill just with a pipe.

[@johnw65]

@@aceventure8696 That's great Ace, My son's Grom is the 2016 4 speed model... He bought his for $500 at a garage sale and restored it...

[@aceventure8696]

@@johnw65 that's a great deal. There great bikes for around town for sure 👍

[@aceventure8696]

@@johnw65 definitely going to do the sprocket upgrade for sure. 👍

[@johnw65]

@@aceventure8696 Wish me luck ace... I rec'd my 1st ebike tuesday and just de-programmed the governor. Now to spike the voltage and see how fast these things can go!

[@pitbullaj606]

i got my yellow 2022 and love it ride it everyday i got 3100 mi on mine. Im in the process if putting pro taper bars 14t sprocket and new grips and throttle tube. Cheers!

[@armchairbikerstv]

Great to hear! The Pro Taper bars are a great upgrade, thanks for watching!

[@Achromal]

thats my favorite gshock they ever made

[@123edwardzpad]

This was a great honest review. It's nice that you've had the previous generation to reflect upon. Does the factory exhaust have a section with a small catalytic converter? And would it be feasible to go to an exhaust shop, have a little strip pipe section put in with flanges; so the catalytic converter could be reinstalled if one so desired? It's not so uncommon a thing to have done on cars in California especially Is catalytic converter theft being so high here. I really like the quiet exhaust. I also like getting maximum efficiency. Anyways, happy trails and I hope you're enjoying it on the daily. Thanks for the video. Looking forward to more of your stuff. I just subscribe.

[@armchairbikerstv]

Thanks so much for subscribing! I honestly don't know if you could do that with the exhaust, we haven't really played around with it other than replacing it with an aftermarket system on our other Grom, but its certainly worth looking into

[@jasonb6570]

I don't see why you couldn't do something like that.

[@ScottKisten]

Great video. I have been on the fence on whether to get the new 2022+ or last gen. Think you convinced me to get the newer one. Plus I find 2022s used for a better price than the last gen for some reason

[@armchairbikerstv]

If you can find one at a good price I would certainly jump on it. Thanks for watching!

[@ziploco]

I’d definitely grab the new ones that 5th gear is a godsend and I love mine

[@ScottKisten]

@@ziploco yeah I think I will for sure now, I might just order a new one too. Or get one this winter since riding season over anyway I’m not in a hurry to get one might be able to find some better deals in a few months

[@badbadbob1]

My sports shop got one in, but the 7 people that had pre-ordered the next one that came in, Did not want one in November in Washington State. That right the shop got one. Well they had one. I took it. Come rain or shine. I am suiting up and riding. `

[@armchairbikerstv]

Congrats on the new bike! Thanks for watching!

[@thuggyduggy1525]

I have a 22 Grom, and a 22 Navi. They both are awesome. Stock performance wise. Just swapped the plastics around for better color options. These two bikes are perfect to putt around on! Easy maintenance and the Navi anyone can hop on LOL.

[@armchairbikerstv]

Awesome to hear! Thanks for watching!

[@johnw65]

Living on the fringes of the city we have all asphalt country roads for 20 miles around us... Great for slow cruises, enjoying the wildlife and nature

[@JamieG.]

Where do you order the plastics from? I asked my dealer and they said they didn't have them for sale.

[@mew1216]

I did like the stealth factor of the factory exhaust as well, but between how restrictive it is and how super restrictive the airbox is.........nah. Loud Pipes Save Lives - LOL! BTW - 3lb weight savings over the factory exhaust vs the aftermarket with carbon silencer.

[@dirtybauer7022]

i got a vader 125 which is a really close clone of the SF model and ive had it for almost 2 years. i got it new did the typical deletes and reroutes. then hit it with some mods. ive changed the entire look of the bike by now but its got 6500 miles on it and its been a decent little bike for a clone. definitely would like to step up to an actual grom one day, that SP is so nice looking with the race print and bronze wheels. wanted an MT03 but i really like the convenience the minis offer which is also its biggest downfall. 200lbs wet and an ability to fit into a trunk or backseat.

[@armchairbikerstv]

It's hard to beat the small bikes when it comes to fun! Thanks for watching!

[@123edwardzpad]

As a first bike to learn on and gain good habits MT03 is an excellent choice. I love the Grom. The ground may be more forgiving as a learner bike.

[@donaldwaddel4600]

Got a new Grom a couple of days ago. Still waiting on my helmet before I can take her out. Temps have been in the low 30s at night and high 40s during the day. I've driven it for a few laps in front of the house on new pavement and I have noticed a little bit of "flat spotting" from standing. I checked both tires and they look like new 1 mile tires. The pressure was about 10 lbs low so I topped them off at 33 psi cold today. How many miles at 50 degs F would you think I'd have to drive to warm up the tires and smooth out the flat spotting?

[@armchairbikerstv]

The tires shouldn’t be getting any actual flat spots on them from sitting, old tires that have been sitting for years might get that but certainly not new tires after a few days. Maybe I’m not understanding what you mean, but as long as they’re at the proper pressure you should be good to go. Only thing I have personally noticed is the cheap VeeRubber tires aren’t always balanced well which causes a little tire hop at higher speeds.

[@Royal_Bloo]

Ahh 4000 miles on a luxurious mini bike. Love it

[@ProDigit80]

Sounds excellent for a speocket swap then. They're all too short geared for me. At least (+1T on the front, and -3T on the rear).

[@sxtsxt6714]

How often do you have to adjust the chain. I don’t do any maintenance on my bike so I’m wondering how often would I need to adjust and lube the chain? I don’t do any wheelies or anything and would never ride in rain (unless I get caught in it) do you go by miles or months….. what would you suggest? Thanks and great video by the way

[@armchairbikerstv]

The chains that come on these Groms are really cheap and they seem to stretch out almost every ride or two depending on how many miles you do. If you’re ever unsure about chain tension just go ahead and check how much free play there is when you are sitting on the bike by reaching down and moving it up and down

[@JDMz]

Chain should be checked every 300miles. Also depends on how you ride.

[@buzzmartin8607]

Sweet video guys, all good info. What have you done maintenance wise?

[@armchairbikerstv]

Nothing but oil changes and adjusting the chain, these small Honda motors are incredibly low maintenance even when abused. Thanks for watching!

[@sxtsxt6714]

@@armchairbikerstv how often do you have to adjust your chain? Thanks

[@JDMz]

​@@sxtsxt6714every 300 miles. Also depends on how you ride.

[@kosta1605]

curious how tall are you? I am a new rider and am trying to decide between the Navi and the Grom. Only problem is there are no Groms in sight around me lol.

[@armchairbikerstv]

I'm 5 foot 11 inches and am still very comfortable on the Grom. My dad who also has a Grom is 5 foot 9 inches and has no complaints either. Good luck on the search for a bike and thanks for watching!

[@xthesketcher610]

I love my grom. But probably gonna sell it soon. For me its alittle too slow, and I have more fun hooligan on my mid sized ninja. Still love em. and maybe one day Ill get another

[@armchairbikerstv]

Thanks for watching!

[@MikeBowsher]

awesome video and I am 57 .

[@XXqctun1ngXX]

I want one sooo bad!

[@swaneyw]

What about the Z125 Pro? Been trying to decide between that and a Grom.

[@armchairbikerstv]

We had one a little while ago and it’s also a great mini moto. Kawasaki did a good job on the overall quality of the bike, only thing I personally didn’t like was the ergonomics but that is of course personal preference. Best thing to do is find one and swing a leg over it to see how it feels. Thanks for watching!

[@lukemeyer8798]

I was pretty shocked when I recognized my local roads in a video while researching groms

[@BluuSkyz]

My first mini was a lifan KP min 150.. I put like 10k on that thing lol and regret selling it.. skip ahead a few years and I picked up a 2022 grom with 900 miles for 3200. Love these little bikes but wish they had a 150 at least in them.

[@armchairbikerstv]

Maybe we will have to get a Lifan for the channel, I keep hearing good things about them

[@waxycaliburner7822]

They prolly will never go 140. Once you go above 149cc got to have a higher tier motorcycle license . This bike is more less a bike that anyone can drive

[@nikolaykaland5873]

Does the 2021 verison have 4 or 5 gears?

[@armchairbikerstv]

I believe in the U.S. the redesigned bike launched as a 2022 model year, so it's only the redesigned bikes that have the 5 speed. *EDIT* Honda never made a 2021 model year, they skipped right to the 2022 designation

[@leowashington8991]

Would you Recommend it as a Beginners Bike?

[@armchairbikerstv]

Yes it would work great as a starter bike. Thanks for watching!

[@charkswitlazers]

Anyone with a grom having issues with transmission whine? I’m seeing that happening on various posts on the internet

[@armchairbikerstv]

I have noticed a little bit of a whine noise on the newer groms, but it hasn’t been an issue of any kind

[@captricharddee3634]

During your ownership, have you experienced the 'weird sound' many say they have had? Yours seems fine.

[@armchairbikerstv]

If you’re referring to a transmission whine sound, yes these new 5 speed Groms all seem to have it and it appears normal. Both mine and my fathers Grom sound the same

[@captricharddee3634]

@@armchairbikerstv Thank you for taking the time to reply, appreciated.

[@888jackflash]

Do you feel VUNERABLE in traffic on that thing? I really want one, but I'm worried that people would run me over. I currently own a 1200 (Bandit) and a 1300 (FJR) and I feel like THOSE are almost invisible!

[@armchairbikerstv]

The cool thing about Groms is they go anywhere, so if you have to hop a curb or go into the grass to avoid a car you can easily do it haha. Regardless of the bike I ride I always anticipate people not seeing me anyway so I feel fine on a Grom. Thanks for watching!

[@brianrichard1768]

honestly, how is the seat?

[@armchairbikerstv]

Much better than the previous generation. As I mentioned in the video, it's flat and allows you to move around and change positions when you start to feel uncomfortable. It is a small bike with a small seat so you will get uncomfortable over time

[@ShiYushi]

how much property tax and insurance you have to pay every year may I ask ?

[@Jorge-125]

Property tax on a Grom?

[@ShiYushi]

@@Jorge-125 yeah

[@JDMz]

Depends on your age. Location. Just ring up insurance companies. And then you will know....

[@umbracusto]

"save the planet"? more like spare

[@scottcalhoun5524]

The bike weighs only 231.

[@Grainsauce]

Anybody else notice his check engine light flashing at 4:00 ???

[@armchairbikerstv]

The flashing light in the middle is actually a shift indicator light. It’s a white light that will flash as you approach higher rpm’s and eventually turn solid when you’re up near redline. It’s something new for this generation of Grom

[@JDMz]

It's an rpm light. 😂😂😂

[@Grainsauce]

@@JDMz Oh lol 😆

[@jeffs2485]

Nah - for the same money I can buy a KTM Duke 200 and cover a lot more miles.