4 Mistakes When Studying For The Aircraft Mechanics Test.

In this Video I’m gonna talk about the three biggest mistakes people make when studying for the aviation mechanics test or O&P. I will also give one bonus mistake at the end. Drop a comment below with your study habits things you do, and what you found his work best for you. If this is your first video, don’t forget to check out the rest of my playlist and videos. I’ve done on getting your A&P
0:40 Not studying what you think you know.
1:56 Have a plan.
3:14 Multi-task
5:06 Don't wait.
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[@keirisanchez8490]

Bryce you need to become a DME !

[@PARAN0IDxGERBIL]

I just took (and passed) the O&P for my A today and I want to say here where interested people are likely to see: study Jeppesen for the orals! I studied both Jeppesen and ASA and I don't think any of the ASA questions came up at all. Maybe 10% of what I was asked at most. Focus on the subjects which you missed on the writtens, but literally memorize all questions for the subject you're testing in. I got a few questions that were outside of the subjects I missed. If you don't understand why an answer is what it is, go find out. As far as the practicals, they have to give you all necessary information to complete the project anyways so don't even sweat it. Be cool with your DME, don't flake or generally act unreliable and like someone who shouldn't be working on airplanes. I was really stressing about it what with the new standards as of August, but it was a relatively quick and painless thing

[@keirisanchez8490]

Thank you for this information, I have 2 questions. So just study jeppeson I should be ok with for my orals ? And the second one , how long was the oral portion

[@PARAN0IDxGERBIL]

@@keirisanchez8490 If you have extra time and feel like you already know all of the Jeppesen questions like the back of your hand, then sure go study ASA just cause why not and you'll learn some new things along the way. But yes if you're pressed for time and need to choose one source, I would recommend Jeppesen 100%. I was consistently surprised during the oral portion at how many word-for-word Jeppesen questions I was asked. The oral portion only took about 5 minutes per subject. I had 32 questions in total for general and airframe combined. I got 85% or so on the writtens. You'll have more questions if you did worse than that

[@keirisanchez8490]

@@PARAN0IDxGERBIL thank you so much and how long was the oral section for you ? Time wise

[@PARAN0IDxGERBIL]

@@keirisanchez8490 Less than 10 minutes

[@michaelcanning2815]

Agreed. Aspiring A&Ps need to live, eat, breathe the knowledge. Test asap!

[@mccxmk1520]

Hey Bryce I just enrolled today at AIM and am doing everything I can to learn ahead of time I know nothing about planes and the A&P tests and O&P but watching your videos is helping me and preparing me for what I will learn and have to study. Thank you for all the useful information!!!!

[@brycebuildsit]

Thanks for watching. Means a lot.

[@joshuagonzalez1131]

Quizlet has the ASA and jeppeson oral questions. The text reader is an awesome tool as well.

[@brycebuildsit]

Definitely can not overlook quizlet

[@ssjliano9971]

Getting ready to take my power plant written rn this took weight off my shoulders for the O&P

[@DatMeister]

I just got my airframe and Powerplant rating, what I did is each subject i would spend 1 month studying at least 2 hours a day. I studied straight jeppesen oral and practical study guide. And like what he said, strike while the iron is still hot, as soon as you finish school, take the writtens asap!

[@aaroneisengart9887]

regarding the oral test were the questions straight from the study guides? were they reworded? was there anything that the study guides did not cover?? Im months away from taking the airframe oral and im already studying!!!

[@ronpearson1912]

You also loose alot of leverage to change jobs if things start to become toxic at your current job. Jobs may take you on right out of school without the A&P with the expectation that your young and your going to get it, but if its 10 years down the road and your trying to get a job without the certs it will be WAY harder. And now maybe you have kids and a wife that doesn't work and your competing with IA mechanics. Brice also brought up a KEY point, even if it was in passing, become financially independent, no matter what it takes, don't have kids, find a woman that is on board with financial independence or at least is ok with it. This isn't even A&P stuff just wisdom for living in late-stage capitalism (I would even say we are past late stage capitalism and into a sort of neo feudalism)

[@brycebuildsit]

All great points thank you.

[@mattfrmdachi]

Passed my general written on March 2 with an 82 percent, now I just need to get ready for the airframe 👍

[@brycebuildsit]

Congratulations and good luck

[@diegomendoza712]

I’ve been studying for 4 months. I hope I’m ready, been studying jeppesens so I hope that covers most things for me on the ACS

[@brycebuildsit]

You'll be just fine, I belive the ACS O&P is much easier then the PTS.

[@joedaviss9448]

Go to bakers school of aeronautics in Tennessee. 2 weeks you’ll be done

[@diegomendoza712]

Just got my airframe certification 🙏🏽 thanks for the info it helped!

[@joedaviss9448]

Hey man great video!!!!!!!! However you didn’t mention Bakers School Of Aeronautics. All a student has to do is go through 2 weeks of hell and at the end they will walk away with their A&P. In the first week they will learn how to pass the written tests. The second week they will learn how to pass the practical. I don’t recommend any student study for months when they have this option.

[@brycebuildsit]

I have talked about crash course places in an older video. I did, in fact, go to Bakers when I got my IA and thought it was well worth it.

[@joedaviss9448]

Yes sir absolutely. I have a friend who went to bakers like 15 years after finishing school and finally passed everything. His whole reasoning for not taking the test earlier was that he simply didn’t think he had enough knowledge. Which was absolutely not true. Lol thank you for making these videos. Not many people in this industry do what you’re doing for mechanics.

[@QuarterPounder4]

Recommendations for someone who went through A&P school 7-8 years ago and looking to take the tests now? Been studying for about a week and a half now and I definitely remember a lot, but not feeling too confident if I got a task like fabricating and riveting a sheet metal patch or welding.

[@brycebuildsit]

In your case, I might strongly recommend going somewhere like a crash Course. Such as Baker's school of aeronautics. If you are close to where you went to school and can go back and talk with some of your old instructors and possibly get a little bit of retraining on things that would also help. You will not have to weld under the a c s or perform fabric repairs. At most, you might have to tie a rib stitch, but not actually do fabric.

[@brycebuildsit]

Ignore the last part of that. I read fabricating as fabric and riveting sheet metal.

[@joedaviss9448]

Get your Ass to baker’s school of aeronautics. Don’t try to study anything before you go. They will teach you how to pass the test. Here is an example…… if you see the number 495 in a weight and balance question I want you to think about Dolly Parton……. The answer is therefore “She’s over the forward CG limit but she’s not overweight.”

[@oldfangle2207]

Hi Bryce. Question: Got my A & P 40 years ago. Been active in aviation ever since, but not wrenching. Can you recommend a way to brush up on basic skills (safety wiring, compression tests, etc.) such that I might move into a position with a flight school/FBO maintaining light GA aircraft? Thanks! I’m enjoying your vids!

[@brycebuildsit]

I'd probably just go to an FBO and ask to apprentice for a month or so. The only other way I could think of would be to make a safety wire board, do a compression check on your car, and so on. Sorry for the late reply. I feel you could find an FBO that would let you volunteer on weekends or some, especially since you are licensed, just not current

[@oldfangle2207]

Thank you for the suggestion Bryce!@@brycebuildsit

[@pabloboy2567]

Hey man! Would you mind doing a video on background checks ? Just so I’ll know exactly everything about it

[@brycebuildsit]

I can, I'll probably just do it as a short though. There's not a crazy amount of information to them, but definitely something worth talking about at least for a minute.

[@pabloboy2567]

@@brycebuildsit yes that would be nice! Or maybe also things not to do in the outside world to get your certificate suspended

[@cashlp5425]

When yo go for your writtens at a testing vent like PSI, are you allowed to use a calculator for some of the math problems or no? Like do they provide that for you or can you take your own?

[@brycebuildsit]

You can have one but the memory has to be cleared. They will not provide a calc.

[@cashlp5425]

@@brycebuildsit oh okay I get you, I appreciate the response! By the way ima big fan of your channel and content!

[@mrskinny_pr3847]

What is the best way to prepare for the practicals? I will be taking both general and powerplant

[@brycebuildsit]

Go over the practical projects listed in the ACS and make sure you are comfortable with each task. If you are not or would like a refresher talk to your instructors and see if they will let you practice. The practical projects are pretty easy and it is required that you read the instructions first. (wich the DME must provide)

[@ArtSkoolDropout]

Possibly a dumb question. So, I have passed all of my written exams. I have my Powerplant & General O&P scheduled for early December. I seem to be wasting time trying to figure out what codes (AMG037, etc) pertain to which sections? I have literally just been going through my books page my page and highlighting every question that has one of the codes on it I missed from my written. I feel there has to be a better way to go about this? As much as I'd like to just study everything, I feel it is a better game plan to focus on what I missed on the written exams, then branch out from there. Any input is appreciated!

[@pletcom95]

Did they asked the questions that you failed?

[@brycebuildsit]

I am so sorry for some reason I missed your comment. The way you were studying was just fine. However the AMG code relates back to the ACS standards on the FAA Website. And those knowledge items relate back to the textbooks that you were looking at. Again I don't know how I ended up missing your comment. Did you end up doing OK on your O&P

[@ArtSkoolDropout]

@@brycebuildsit passed them! Take my Airframe O&P April 4th, then I'm all wrapped up!

[@brycebuildsit]

Congratulations 🎊

[@iross2inc]

where would you find which op questions to study are they all behind the 8083 books ?

[@brycebuildsit]

In my opinion Jepison oral study guide is the best. But the 8032-b is supposed to have them in the back of each chapter.

[@SheauBeauter]

Hey Bryce i passed my written generals and air frame 2 years ago in November they save i need to have my air frame rating by the end of this month or i will need to go through the far part 147 school again do you know this to be true??

[@brycebuildsit]

That is not true. You will have to retake the general and airframe written. But not go through the entire program again.

[@ar-1571]

Can people who are not as mechanically inclined like myself still pass the practicals? I am studying for them as we speak. Also, is it really not as bad as I heard people say it is? Thanks!

[@brycebuildsit]

I think the answer for me is yes, you don't have to be a master mech to pass. For the most part the practicals are easier tasks, check a cable tension, layout a rivit pattern, do a compression test, or check magneto timing. If you can follow the manual and figure it out you will be OK Remember with the ACS change you only have to pass 70% of the practical projects in each section

[@micclay]

A new 147 is starting a few miles away from me. Have you seen any old students? I'm in far better shape than the average 46 year old, but I'm still 46. I've heard you say in another video, the job can be very physically demanding.

[@brycebuildsit]

I've seen guys as old as fifty-seven. Age is just a number it's physically demanding but not in a cardio kind of way. There's also plenty of job titles Like backshop in engine overhaul That aren't near as demanding as line maintenance.

[@micclay]

I hold a PPL. Would GA shops place any value in that?

[@brycebuildsit]

Some will I don't think they would pay you more, but they might be more egar to hire

[@jimeshpatel7414]

Hey Bruce, I just took my O&P for both and I failed general and airframe practical test. Am I gonna be tested on the same tasks? Thanks

[@brycebuildsit]

Yes plus anything you haven't tested yet

[@jimeshpatel7414]

@@brycebuildsit do I have to pass all of those projects?

[@brycebuildsit]

You must get at least a 70 overall

[@jimeshpatel7414]

@@brycebuildsit so when I retake the practical, can I just take the general and get my powerplant since I already passed P? Or do I have to pass Airframe since my 8610-2 is signed off for both rating?

[@jamesblackmon1911]

So I keep seeing that some people are given a list of their practicals that they are assigned before the test date. Is this true?

[@brycebuildsit]

Some DME's might be doing that but they are not supposed to be. You should find out what practicals you have as the DME assigns them the day of

[@danielaguayo4255]

this is true my DME gave me a list of practicals a week before.

[@kennyliau2877]

How do I prepare for the practical portion

[@brycebuildsit]

Go through the ACS and make sure you are prepared for each task listed. Or at least can find it in the manual. Tbh the practical is pretty easy compared to what you have been doing in school.

[@ed199]

Could be that I tried to take my Powerplant/General O&Ps in a week for a career opportunity, but Practicals really is the worst imo. I can see why you say it’s easy though, but things like Sketches (in General section) and AD compliance forms really got me. I heard that knowing what source of information to use (Whether it’s the Manual, FARs, or 43.13) and where to find it is vital. Small things like using TCDS’s got me when I wasn’t paying attention to what model airplane to find information on (I was given a packet of TCDS’s and told to find the speed limit and chose the wrong model aircraft for said info). Just some things that I figured I’d point out for those that might want to study. Don’t stress too much on the typical compression check or electrical stuff unless that’s what your written codes say you really need to focus on. Take the codes from your written, still study everything but put extra emphasis on making sure you really understand what you got wrong on the writtens, because it may not be guaranteed that you get those questions on the O&Ps but it is highly likely.

[@Yeaa12]

is 2weeks possible to study for oral?😆 taking mine next month 😬

[@brycebuildsit]

It can be, but you need to make a plan and hit all the goals

[@mmaviator22]

Just depends how you study. I did a mixture of asa/jepp and would write the questions down in a comp book and not only was I reading the questions multiple times but I also was writing each question down and would also go in the textbooks for weaker subjects and read up on that section or whatever it was. Did the for 2 or 3 hours night while movies played in the background.

[@fuadsayeed3999]

Is the O&P exams based off the codes from the written exam? Or is the exam based off everything in the ASA/Jepessen book? Thanks for all the tips!

[@brycebuildsit]

It is based off of the codes on the written exam. The questions seem to be a mix of Jepison and ASA. There are also a few odd ball questions here and there.

[@fuadsayeed3999]

@@brycebuildsit thanks for the advice! I just passed my airframe O&P.

[@brycebuildsit]

Congratulations 🎊

[@anthonyahgue17]

​@@fuadsayeed3999 how was it for you? I have been studying a combination of the 2 jepison and the new 2024 ASA. The questions are 30%different from one study to the other so don't know what to expect 😒.

[@tarricksafi3887]

How much is the baker school?

[@brycebuildsit]

That is a great question, unfortunately I don't know. When I went 5 years ago for my IA it was 700 but the A&P course is longer so it may be more

[@cashlp5425]

$3500 to get your A&P at the bakers and aero tech in Houston Tx

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

Wtf why would someone try to study while doing the dishes?

[@brycebuildsit]

People get creative, I had one student who listened to the oral study questions on his drive into school everyday.

[@fernandogil2468]

@@brycebuildsiti have been doing that my drive is about 1 hour each way everyday and i have been studying the Jeppesen audios that can be found here on youtube, i only have 3chapters left, my oral and practical exam is next Thursday i am stressing out but i hope i can get it done to be fully licensed i already have my airframe license and have a job already lined up which stresses me out even more

[@brycebuildsit]

Just the PowerPlant is so much easier then both gen and airframe. You already have the A you will fo just fine. You got this let me know how it goes