4 Subtypes of The INTJ

Presenting four types of the INTJ personality type, as well as two additional forms of cognitive balance.
As with other CPT content, this video takes a deep dive into the cognitive inner workings of this type to explore how no INTJ is going to be the same as the next one.
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Hi, I'm Harry, and I'm intensely passionate about personality typing and self-development - so much so that I have created my own Jung-inspired system, taking a more high-resolution look at the factors making up personality.
Through Cognitive Personality Theory I examine the underlying mechanisms behind cognition, and the means through which a single type can have limitless individual variation - I believe type itself is just a set of cognitive predispositions that can according to the needs of the situation be overcome.
I don't believe any type is limited in what they can achieve, but have noticed sensationalist attitudes and internet trends propagating a culture in which type-development is actively discouraged in favour of conforming to simplistic archetypes. Through CPT I hope to dispel various myths and oversimplifications of what constitutes personality type, and along the way encourage a healthier attitude towards type that allows a person to become not who they are told they are, but rather who they want to be.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:38 - Convergent INTJ (Fi)
06:49 - Divergent INTJ (Te)
12:40 - The INTJ Diver (Ti)
15:30 - Ambiverted INTJ (Ne)
18:40 - Default INTJ
21:36 - The Individuated INTJ
22:19 - Wrap-up
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KEY
Ni/Introverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of internal world.
Ne/Extraverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of external world.
Si/Introverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of internal world.
Se/Extraverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of external world.
Fi/Introverted Feeling - Subjective codec; internal emotional data & harmony.
Fe/Extraverted Feeling - Subjective codec; external emotional data & harmony.
Ti/Introverted Thinking - Objective codec; internal logical order.
Te/Extraverted Thinking - Objective codec; external logical order.
Lens - Perceives data.
Codec - Rationalises data.
Convergent - Positive, creative, enacting change and seeking novelty.
Divergent - Negative, authoritative, instilling consequence and driving utility.
For more clarification on terms see the CPT eBook!
#INTJ

[@Yohanan552]

I love INTJ's. I have one tied up in my basement

[@Moodboard39]

weird

[@MissyBelleSYD]

INTJs love ENTPs. Right back at you ❤.

[@SupervillainDW]

😅

[@jessica-pf9fy]

Kinky

[@athos401]

You mean they made you tide them up in your basement. If you have a safe in there, I'd go check it out.

[@daniel.is.my.brother]

i used to think i was an INFJ but, but i now realise i am a convergent INTJ, as i have a strong compassion for many things, but i also found that i related most to INTJs. I was quite confused therefore before learning this information. I have also been a diver INTJ when i had VERY bad social anxiety and depression. But, by default, i am a convergent INTJ, and i frequently struggle with insecurities, and also deal with a lot of overthinking and self doubt frequently. Thank you though.

[@SeraphXeno]

I'm not particularly stupid but will have to watch this a few times to get anything.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

This one is veeery abstract theoretical. I'm going to throw in examples in future

[@Markbenwisch]

HE IS BACK!!! And he looks like Sting back in the 80ies 😎

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Haha I love that

[@enfieldjohn101]

The Convergent INTJ makes sense to me. No wonder I sometimes wonder if I am more of an Fi dominant type. I find that I'm more philosophical, creative and interested in learning for learning's sake without feeling like I'm wasting my time if what I'm learning isn't in service to a long-term goal than what the stereotypical INTJ is. When I am stressed, depressed and over stimulated by negative experiences, I slide into the Diver subtype. Sometimes, becoming almost a hermit at times. When I'm in the depths of it, I even find the company of my wife to be too much and seek alone time even away from her. When this happens, her long summer vacations can be a problem since I work from home and we spend more time together than I can handle when I'm in a diver state. It took her a while to understand that my long walks alone or cloistering myself away in my home office for hours at a time are not indications that I don't love her anymore, I just need a break from the intensity of being around another person.

[@thecommenter2711]

What i love about your system is that it accepts that a person can modulate any of their functions(develop them through continued usage) regardless of type Also kind of interesting with Ambivert subtype how it kind of bridges the gap between Intj/entp They are very different types in a way, but at the same time really similar So the cognitive proactiveness that you speak of i think i understand a little better now Basically a extrovert uses their introverted functions mostly with a extroverted purpose but a introvert mostly use their extroverted functions with a introverted purpose Hence the major difference in attitude towards those functions, despite using the same function at a occasion A pretty specific example below that is applicable maybe mostly in a very niche context Say i read a page of a book about i don't know philosophy, then that page inspires me, i go and think, connect and relate to the things that i had realized through that philosophy book. Then i stop my reading there because i have been thinking of the insight for like an hour. On the other hand you might have a extrovert who wanted to have a lengthy meaningful conversation with their friend who loves this philosophy book, they read the book, retain what they could then use that to converse about philosophy with that friend. Maybe it isn't enough to stand on equal ground in the conversation, so they read a few more books basically awe-ing their friend then they kind of lose interest as their purpose was acheved.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thanks so much for this comment! I love your illustrations and I think they hit the nail on the head!

[@amaraverse]

learning about the convergent side of the INTJ and its relativity to ISFP is finally making me feel better about identifying with the type. thank you!

[@jonintrovertedpotato3866]

ISFP can appear similar to an INTJ too, friend. Knowing quiete a dew of them in anger especially they show similar energy.

[@jonintrovertedpotato3866]

@@qua7771 Why responding to me? Tests are pretty much useless. Unless you know how the whole system works and can use them as a hint of how to type yourself.

[@exxcaliburs6002]

I really dislike ISFP traits so as a Ni Fi INTJ , i feel its like looking at the extreme parts of me I dislike.

[@abscbn6599]

@@exxcaliburs6002 , well as he said just now this subtype has an intellectual bent preferring to engage in topics that interest them. This subtype feels satisfied if they immersed themselves with topics that greatly interests them. Instead of engaging within their emotions and expressing it through art like an fi dom ISFP. I think that you just have to find a path that greatly indulges your interests and set a goal for yourself to achieve whatever that you find it necessary to achieve.

[@badreddineblb9351]

i absolutely adore that u keep relating to individuation after explaining what u had to explain , it gives a huge sense of meaning and practicality to watching your videos as you complete the bigger picture thats revolving around individuation , hope to see more videos about that concept more explicitly

[@looseleaf8721]

Good subtypes have always been something that has been missing from different MBTI theories. Thanks man.

[@Cherry_l3ee]

I just found this channel today and it’s already starting to clear many stereotypes up for me. I have always doubted whether I was an INTJ or not but now I can say with more confidence then ever before that I am a diver INTJ. Thank you.

[@luminouswolf7117]

Thanks for the video. As always, your ability to communicate the ideas inside of you impresses me.

[@mimcris8481]

I was thinking about starting to study more of the INTJ in CPT( I had a close friend who I believe is an intj), thank you for this video, I'll make great use of it! This series of videos is very interesting, although I do believe watching the CPT explained playlist first would make understanding and application to a personal basis, easier. I personally watched it and found it very informative. Also, if possible, of course being understanding of your own schedule, it would be great to see four subtypes of INFJs! I'm pretty curious about mine in these variations. Have a great day, Harry and anyone who read until now.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

You're right about that, I'll make a note to add the playlist to descriptions as it's always a must for anyone unfamiliar with the fundamentals. An INFJ episode is definitely a good shout too! Thanks Mim :)

[@loujingpan3348]

Thank you for the very informative video! I've been binge watching your videos and have found them enormously useful-- esp the point about Ni-Fi convergence. I've struggled for a while between ISFP and INTJ, but this video really helped decide it for me because I really do anchor my identity around an archetype (the "Artist") which is something that I wish to desire to embody through a kaleidoscopic way both now and in the future. In contrast, I've never been able to relate to the hyper logical or "mastermind" INTJ that's often described online lol.

[@TokyoTaisu]

Ambivert INTJ here. Always felt a bit more easier in social settings and entrepreneurship than the regular INTJ. Some friends thought I was ENTP or ENTJ initially. This vid was helpful confirming that my subtype exists, thank you.

[@Hope-ck6hy]

Same here!

[@lisaa23581]

You are lucky cause im the most introverted person I've ever met. In my entire school now in my entire college

[@NanulSavage]

This was a great video! It’s been some months, possibly a year, I dove into this topic. I probably left a comment that sounds confused. I strongly identified with an INTJ (test as such too), but also had lots of overlaps, especially with ENTPs. After realizing which friends were ENTPs it was easier to see that I’m definitely not that type, but the ambivert (hope I’m not misspelling) subtype explained a lot, as well as talking about the individuated INTJ. I think the way we grow up plays a big role how we form. As a kid I had all of the default functions of the INTJ, but my parents beat me into the social norms as much as they could. Forcing me to socialize, push me to speak in front of an audience, yell at me to speak louder if I mumbled, force me to be present, combined with wars, politics and constant uncertainty of the next day not being guaranteed. I think all of that has turned me into a very balanced person, which was causing confusions when I started to pay attention to this subject. It’s a great tool to have in the toolbox. Not just for understanding how am I perceived by others, but also being able to type the person in front of me accurately and get into their heads a bit.

[@ladye7547]

I'm really enjoying these subtype videos. I have believed for some time now that 16 cookie cutter type descriptions falls woefully short to describe nearly 8 billion people, each one incredibly unique and complex. I myself have had some difficulty determining my type. Most tests type me as an "Intj". But after studying the subject and giving it considerable thoughtful reflection, I believe this to be inaccurate. I am looking forward to seeing an Infj subtype video. As of now, I believe an Infj with a heavy usage of Ti to be the closest fit. As always, excellent content. Thank you for your insights!

[@markbrahma8906]

Thank you so much for this, I wish I had found this sooner when I was doubting being an INTJ solely based on stereotypes. It really does help to know that there is a certain niche of subtype to even one particular type and I personally have identified with the Convergent INTJ Ni Fi. However, I can't say this enough as well, but thank you for pointing out the aspect of individuation. It really is important to know subtypes, but as a way and a tool to doubling down on strengths while strengthening weaker ones. I personally am experiencing somewhat of a phenomenon of individuation myself, and I'm pretty sure, people who judge based on stereotypes would not be able to recognize me as an INTJ as well. Thats prolly a good sign however, as I'm learning to integrate myself outside of my normal mode of operation.

[@Devi-gn2cs]

Very helpful, and very precise as always! I've been anticipating this one because it can be hard to relate to any type when one is still so far from balance. And months after definitely setteling on my big 4 functions, because of the very strong pull from both my Ni and Fi and despite the same old "rational droid" stereotype people always stick on my forehead, I still find myself oscillating between INTJ and ISFP, with a very strange ability to connect with some ISFPs on a sometimes deeper level than with any INTJ. Regardless of my actual type (and in the case of INTJ, whether I'm more of a convergent or diver subtype) it has become very clear how I really have to give my extroverted functions more room. In an attempt to make up for "weak Te", the first thing I thought was "ok, let's just accept discomfort, get better with planning and executing and this should do. I'm already snacking and scrolling too much, so...screw Se". So that's what I did, and guess what? I realized I was still very much like a hamster in a wheel, never fully honoring either my vision or sense of identity, and feeling like I'm dodging something and bullshiting myself. Of course, the real challenge I'm facing is that I both have to strive for more structure of execution AND more chaotic exploration/expression of my inner world through free-flowing Se. Both in a well-balanced conjunction.

[@LKProduzione]

Really like the lighting and the composition of your video!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I'm glad you dig it!

[@pippysmusic]

Thank you for the awesome video!⭐️

[@aeonalucia6466]

This is great! Looking forward to an ENTJ subtype video.

[@alaaazem8096]

Hi Harry, thank you so much for the video. The individuating process is just amazing to ponder upon, and further more even great to think of how exactly it can be usefully activated. My gosh… genius

[@vogue_tae8690]

This video was so useful, I have been struggling with find my cognitive personality type however finding out I was a INTJ, eventually everything made sense, as a 16 year old im still going through a lot of changes with understanding myself but this channel makes it ten times easier. Thank you.

[@vogue_tae8690]

Especially with these subtypes I understand my personality type even more.

[@codyrichards7107]

I'm looking forward to your updated book.

[@MithraSemiramis]

I watched this to work out how to understand some difficulties with an INTJ friend and it did confirm - or rather - articulate the specifics of the block in connection I've been noticing ☺️ thanks. I drew some interesting parallels for myself because I don't believe you've made an INFJ subtype video yet, although I could be wrong. I've been pretty well settled in the loose understanding (I agree with you on cognitive fluidity, possibly in a slightly more conservative way) of myself as NiTi, which I believe would be a convergent INFJ in your model. what I found interesting is your mention of the ambivert INTJ being ENTP-like. occasionally, people think I'm an ENFP and I can certainly see it in myself too, although it tends to be situational. I really got into the Cognitive Typology model (aside from vultology, which needs work but I'm still intrigued, at least) and it really helped me conceive of multiphasic cognitive function development in juxtaposition with stack arrangement in a way that made sense of how I was seeking to understand myself. through CT, I identified the way I can appear to display Ne with the Ni/Se perceptual loop construct in which Se makes novel connections within the Ni framework, producing Ne like results. I suppose it comes down to the difference between thinking in terms of 4 or 8 functions and I've just been comfortable with the 4 + compound function construct. I do recall finding your recent INFJ INTJ closer look video very relatable in how you broke down the modes of function use even though it stretched my 4 function paradigm. I'm open to your model and have been slowly adapting ☺️ it's starting to catch on more and I'm gaining a better appreciation of why you're organized this way. anyway, the implications of your video have given me a few valuable things to think about ☺️ thanks 🤍

[@jamesspartin117]

Great video. The colour highlighting of functions did a good job at showing the varying levels of each function. You might be able to add a extra piece of Se by giving an example of a person for each type and hopefully not constantly get told your mistyping lol.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I am going to be working this into future videos for sure. I always try and emphasise the theory it all but do think it's time to finally start bringing in the Se there :)

[@theophilusfemialawonde]

This video is insightful - it has helped me understand why I don't fit some stereotypical INTJ traits. I used to see it as not being in the raw-form - somewhat refined by my experiences. This video helps me put that into perspective. I'll do some more research on CPT.

[@windihari]

This is SO fascinating and explains A LOT. I always thought I was an ENTP until recently. I believe I am the Ambivert INTJ which has it's own difficulties. I often try to get away from people to think and end up having them follow me anyway. It's hard for me to just walk away from people when I need down time. I find when my female friends begin discussing "life's difficulties" it annoys me and rather than sympathize with them, I launch into a lengthy discourse on the philosophical/scientific principles behind what they are experiencing so that they understand they are not alone in their experience, but that their "suffering" is part of a greater tapestry of experiences that make the beautiful things more beautiful. I think I started this as a way to drive people away, but they still just hang around. I also have less rigidity in my opinions than other INTJs because my Ne dominance keeps scraping old frameworks as new frameworks come in. As a result I'm awake all night revising my internal understanding of life and my INTP husband thinks I change my beliefs too much. On the good side, I LOVE my dry humor and instantly connect with people who "get it." I also fiercely enjoy a good debate. Once all that socializing is over, however, you won't see me for months.... lol!

[@novaimperialis]

Yes, thx, Harry! That's what I was waiting for! Great video. I'm deffintely the convergent subtype. My problem with my father was one about the wheel. My father insisted on not reinventing the wheel if I don't have to. While my response would be but I want a more efficient wheel, maybe one that has rockets attached to it for faster speed. Also wheels can break, I want a better material also. Of course this was in relation to a more philosophical implication of how one should govern his life. His approach is just to use current parameters. My approach is but I want to use a systematic way of thinking that hasn't been used. The commonly accepted parameters that were used so far also don't describe the whole of reality. I'm in search of what can't be seen but is part of reality and can be brought to light from darkness. Which also translates to I think that our way of understanding everything and conducting our life is flawed, we need a better way of doing things. For instance, why should we use a highly formal system of learning that is based on the form and not the content of what is being teached? What matters more, the form in which you express a thing or the value of the thing itself and it's content? Why is it that we live mindlessly and let ourselves be consumed by a system that is in opposition with us? Simply following it's parameters is the way of making the system or ourselves happy? What about following the parameters that the system itself is subordinate to following? The system is subordinate to nature and we are subordinate to nature as well not to the system. So instead we should follow those nature universal parameters and patterns that make it work and that also make the system to work. Or simply put. Instead of following a system pre defined and deterministic one way progression logic we should follow nature multi directional logic. Nature has not only life but also death. The opposites are both part of the same thing. So we should first understand this main thing and then we can move on. There's the contradiction of both duality and non duality. Duality in the sense of talking about life and death separately and them occurring at different moments and that of non duality which is the certainty that death will occur. A fully functioning system also has multi directional capability. If it is a straight line - >it would get stuck. Instead by being able to move backwards as well it can create a cycle or the infinity symbol ∞ or a complete loop or system. The way of how you can go backwards is a curvature as the infinity symbol possesses ∞. The DNA or helix is similar to this form. So does that mean that nature movement is actually that of the opposites or different sides converging or meeting in the middle and forming something new? We have water and land. If you add more water than land but still put some land as well, you get an island. Thus we can also see that we have a flawed understanding of conflict and opposition. The opposition between poles remains at a distance as they do their own thing. Instead by them closing the distance would make it to be a conflict as they would interact with one another. But the fact of why they are able to work together is because -->ooo

[@CattoPotato4]

Great video!

[@saloni.sharma]

This is really comprehensive yet so precise. thank you for discussing this. i didn't know an INTJ could be aware of Fe. i got INFP in a test when I was a teenager and almost always got typed as INTJ as an adult but i couldn't accept it cz of the stereotypes and general definition cz i am very flexible and can socialize or express easily when needed although i was also not able to type myself as any other type either (maybe INFJ due to the socializing part). But like you said, it is important to see one's type as a reference point to understand one's tendencies and improving upon them to gain cognitive balance eventually. so it's good if someone is not representing stereotypical models. I've actually started to see not fitting into an archetype as a positive thing when i started understanding CPT through your channel. thank you for sharing your knowledge and insights in such a lucid way.

[@CheriFields]

While I’m mostly like the classic description of INTJ, the one that never fit was the low awareness of people’s feelings and “robotic” tendencies. In my youth I wasn’t good at catching on to subtle cues from people outside my family, but I’ve always cared deeply about the values and emotions of those around me. And, while I still struggle to express my own emotions, it’s more that sense they are so deep and strong I either can’t do them justice or they would hurt someone if I gave them full vent. I’d be interested to hear whether this more comfortable emotional experience is related to being a woman, my upbringing, or a‘random’ subtype.

[@saloni.sharma]

@@CheriFields that's an interesting point. I think that people are too complex to define by a single parameter. They're always influenced by everything their life has been, where they lived or grew up, everyone they've met or looked up to, their genetics etc.. I'm a cis woman and I too struggle with emotional expression, not because I don't feel emotions but because i think i feel it too intensely. I couldn't catch social cues either but i can sense emotions of others even when i don't know how to respond to them properly, which I'm learning... I'm also learning to communicate how i feel but i don't think it expresses the intensity that i feel my emotions with. I used to think it's the case with everyone and that people feel stronger than they express themselves but turned out it's not a standard. I have read that gender demographics have an impact on the personality types and how they develop over time in a particular socio-cultural structure but there's not a statistically significant or diverse study so far. It's highly probable in my understanding though... Because women are taught to be more open to emotional expression in most cultures and that makes it acceptable or sometimes even necessary to be emotionally aware otherwise you are made to feel like an outcast.

[@saloni.sharma]

@@CheriFields Either way, correlation isn't necessarily causation and therefore we need more demographically diverse data to actually see whether it's a subtype thing or just influenced by gender roles, or both, which is also highly likely in theory..

[@CheriFields]

@@saloni.sharma Totally. This awareness is exactly why I asked the question. BTW Neurologically, there is no question the female brain is wired differently from before birth. Even in an ideal environment, a woman’s experience of cognition is going to be different. Anyone studying such issues would be wise to take this into account

[@saloni.sharma]

@@CheriFields Yeah exactly. There are significant biological parameters to take into account.. Not to mention that the cognitive functions develop differently in different people even if they fall on same scale on any psychological model. Like i said there are various parameters that need to be studied before drawing conclusions and I wish we had more data and studies that took these things into account. Unfortunately even Freudian psychology was not female inclusive in its developmental model and it was only modified later, so the information we have is far from demographically inclusive currently.

[@cumshitcock]

Great video as always. Ive been struggling with my type for two years now but you and AsuraPsych have been a great help and I think I can definitively say that im a convergent INTJ which is why I thought of myself as an INFP/ISFP for a whole year straight. The first year was spent deciding between ISTJ, INTJ and INTP but since ive got no trace of Fe it was between the Fi introverted types. But I do have to ask whats the difference between a convergent INTJ and an ISFP or an INFP? Would like to say a video on more of the subtypes and how they compare to one another. Good stuff, keep it up

[@briannajohnsonrivera2906]

Thank you for covering this! I definitely believe I am a convergent INTJ and it made it so hard to accept that INTJ is my true type. If we throw out all rules, my function preference is more of Ni, Fi, Ti, Te, Si, Ne, Fe, Se.

[@Markbenwisch]

Why is it hard to accept being an Intj, if this can be your base you can develop in direction of an introverted Entj or Entp? Behavior doesn't change your type, but every type can gain new skills by discovering his function stack. So, it depends on you.

[@Diaming787]

Mine is also the same too! Only except flip between Fe and Se at the end. Love to be in the Ni, Fi, Ti, Te combo where I'm into the "hard sciences" but also in balance with my inner emotions.

[@johanliebert6859]

Wow I'm INTJ and think the same and i've always scored high on Ti in the cognitive functions test So i guessed i'm INTJ with a developed or preferred Ti and not INFJ bcoz i still had low score in Fe And further i have Ni-Fi relation than Ni-Ti one My preference would be Ni , Fi , Ti , Te , Se , Ne , Si , Fe

[@tea_lover5745]

I am a ambivert INTJ and because of my weird preferences I've always been mistyped as an INFJ My preferences are Ni, Ti, Ne, Te, Fi, Fe, Se and Si about the same

[@asvegas777]

@@Markbenwisch Ne too low for ENTP Te too low for ENTJ it’s not to do with extroversion. You’re not gonna be intro versions of these people with those function preferences so far low. My opinion. But hope it makes sense

[@bistander2518]

Great video thank you! Noticed you don't have many estp videos tho, I'm kind of struggling and it would help me understand them better if you talk about them in a video!

[@novaimperialis]

I appreciate the use of shadows for the functions in portraying the areas possible to be accessed due to having awareness to them in relation to different subtypes and how the individuated subtype has all the colors with no shadows like they are pulsing a bright light just like a rainbow that is complete as it has every color. Fascinating. To think that we are an electrical system where those functions are only different nodes with different functions where energy gets through and some of those nodes get accessed more than others. But the point of such a system is for everything to be working and to be able to access every node. Could you make a special video about individuation and Tesla 369 "secret to the universe"? It looks like a structure hence why I'm making this comparison with electrical systems, but that which is perfect. The other numbers form a kind of loop and 369 form a kind of triangle that has some interesting properties and it can't be accessed. It's like they are in different dimensions completely. Also what type would you say that Nikola Tesla was? An INTP? An individuated INTJ? This man fascinates me. He's the father of modern electricity. But what fascinates me the most is how 369 are connected to his free energy turbine. How is that possible? Is it connected to something else like aether which Newton researched? So many questions yet so few answers. And you yourself take an interesting approach which makes me to think that you are indeed an INFJ since you kinda of take like an energetics approach where you see how the energy moves inside a system, like humans! Maybe Tesla was also an INFJ since he dealt with energy basically? Harry, I'm dying of wonder. What is this reality? It seems perfect but yet we can't see this perfection for ourselves. Why is it that it is hidden from us and we usually assign it only as being imperfect and unjust? Or how can perfection and imperfectation stand at the same time? Through knowledge and logic we see that it's perfect, it's structure and other things. But through experience we see that something is missing which makes it imperfect. Why is that the case?

[@tiernanwoollaston1669]

Really interesting! I deffo can see why there are so many ISFP mistypes. The convergent subtype is definitely relatable with the reformulated vision. I think this can apply to relationships, trying to fix them, to reinstate it and refining the approach. However the difference with ISFP in comparison to INTJ would perhaps be that there's more of an emphasis on the desiring of sensory specifics with the vision, and chasing actualization a bit more specifically over prioritizing external logical order as much? I think with certain subtypes of both INTJ and ISFP there's a difficulty with using Se convergently for longer than short bursts. I think there suffers this issue of constantly assessing the internal world to feel at ease to the point where taking action/ steps of progress are avoided for ages from a lot of deliberation. With the vision if another approach is being taken to fix it and reinstate it, which function primarily could be helping aid Fi-Ni in pursuit?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thanks Tiernan! I think your distinction between Se and Te authority there is apt :) And, yes for sure, convergent variants of each can get suck in Ni conceptualisation.

[@obscurellepriscillatopin7506]

12:19 I lol'd to the description of the INTJ pursuit of wealth! I may have progressed through a few sub-types at various points of my life, though I'm not quite sure which one I'm on now; perhaps the people in the INTJ's circle are better at picking up on the current interaction style of the INTJ than the INTJ themselves might be ...I know at least that I tend to get so deeply into a zone of focus and will on whatever my current need is (imagined or otherwise) --that I lose sight of what my other functions are doing! Maybe right now I am in an ambiverted stage - which might explain my recent slowness to put my thoughts together in a way that I can meaningfully share with other people,, but the world spins on!

[@unknowna7114]

finally somebody said about a hybrid of INTJ and ENTP because when needed to, I put on an ENTP like mask and I sometimes do debate with people just so I could justify it (Ti) but I am at core a more cheerful (outside only tho) INTJ ~

[@SensemakingMartin]

Another great video. Can I say tho you have pretty big INTP vibes. I think you'd really benefit from trying to lean into your Fe more. Cause you're so Ti that it is actually hard sometimes to follow your train of thought. It's all very precise and cold in a way that is, at least for me, sometimes an obstacle to really intuiting the bigger picture

[@Thyholymackerel]

Over the past year I have taken multiple and varied mbti tests, including ones focused on cognitive functions and consistently get INTJ. I haven't been sure this was my type because I don't fully resonate with the stereotype, only parts. Recently I completed a cognitive function test and my results showed that I had a preference for all the introverted functions. I haven't found anything to explain why this was, until you explained the Ti, INTJ subtype. I definetly relate. I believe I may be a Ti subtype because a few years ago I had typed as INFJ. Significant experiences and personal growth have now made me believe I have developed into a INTJ, but that would explain why my Ti is more developed. I did consider I could be a INFJ with highly developed Ti, but my Fe is so shit there's no way I'm a INFJ anymore. Thanks for reading. If anyone has input I would like to hear it.

[@maxb5640]

Strong Ti , low Fe. Have you considered Intp? However I do like this authors approach that types in reality are more of a spectrum. Few people match mbti type functions precisely Personally I match standard intj cognitive functions wise relatively well

[@exxcaliburs6002]

' Fe is so shit' haha. Amen brother i feel you❤

[@owalterluan]

man I would love "4 subtypes of ESFP" video

[@NgaTran-ex7pi]

Another great video Harry! I relate to all 6 types of INTJ in your 4 subtypes video how is this mathematically possible :))

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

The miracle of fluidity!

[@NgaTran-ex7pi]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory isnt that the key word, i hope the typology community really embraces this concept one day!

[@AC-my2bg]

OMG, thank you! I test INTJ 5w6, and while I've always trusted that's correct, I've also been a little unsure because I think my Ti and Si are too strong (particularly Si, for being the "demon" function). As soon as you got to Diver, it clicked.

[@jackshit1723]

Great! I am INTJ not INTP, you were right in comments once. Figured it out 3/4 year ago.

[@estelakanoviya7284]

I've always tried to type myself between the INFJ/P cause that was the result I always got over the years. But they both never truly felt like "me" - more like the me that I portrayed to the world or the people I was attracted to. I really really like a lot of NFs. But over the years, as I kept coming to learn who I am and learning to own my strengths and weaknesses... I started to see myself more clearly thru my own lens and not the tainted ones I held for a very long time. Out of all the types mentioned...it sounds like I'm either an individuated INTJ or the INTJ diver. The big words overwhelm me a bit so it is a tad bit harder to grasp the things you're sharing at your fast pace or connected words as well. I prefer more deliberate speeches. Helps me pace and understand things better. I wonder what's your type tho! Anyway, I've come to realize that I may more so be an INTJ and have very similar functions as an ENTJ in the way they process their minds and "predict" the future by looking at the patterns currently. I do that all the time, but I don't quite enjoy multi tasking or working too often. I find more joy in feeling peaceful and taking in the nature around me. It's something I cultivated over time rather than something I did since young. Though I did have a tendency to get absorb by the beauty and peace that plants would exude and I did get lost in it many times! I was mistyped for a long while. I'm glad that you've addressed this in your videos. It helps a lot!

[@megham11]

Very interesting theory! I can definitely see myself (at times) in several of these but I think the Ambivert is most constant, if that makes sense. Related to having an ENTP father, maybe?

[@Fonch117]

I love these videos but I think it would be better if you used more analogies and metaphors in your descriptions. Like a lot of jargon and technical terms, if I didn't have a background in MBTI I'd be completely lost and even now, I still gotta really focus and think and "try hard" to understand exactly all of this. But nevertheless great video man!

[@Tyler-kn1nu]

Really nice work here but I have a question; what would be the best way to go about differentiating between a more convergent fi intj subtype with a "default" isfp?

[@beej1234]

I believe I’ve been in a diver state for a while now, ever since I lost my previous religious beliefs and went off to college. I thought I could find comfort in existential philosophy, but not being able to actually experience the world around me with a strong awareness has limited my understanding of it. Any tips for someone trying to dig themselves out of an introverted hole?

[@CE-do2vm]

Wow, this was my experience as well. I was lost for years. I believe life experiences and typology is what got me out of it. I now relate more to the ambivert and individuated INTJ.

[@nyanshadow4491]

Hello, I've got a question. One of the INTJ subtypes dips into Ti, their 'critical' function. I've yet to read about this occurring within my own type (INTP), but I'm an INTP who relates strongly to the usage of Ni and Fi. Determining whether I'm an INTP or INFJ has been difficult for me. Does such a subtype exist in your system?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

FiNi is the INTP's opposing introverted pairing so both convergent and divergent subtypes will experience this. In terms of the type spectrum both INTP and ISFP are proximate types within CPT so those who fall in the centre may experience degrees of both without a subtype!

[@cmleibenguth]

Interesting system for subclassification Depending on situation I have seen myself act as the first two, but the second 2 describe me far more often (depending on if I am at home recharging vs in a social situation)

[@MarcosDSMoraes]

Standard INTJ here. Finally after many research, thinking and put in pratice mbti theory I can say for sure I am INTJ Beside my family already said it to me, i needed to search the answer from myself perspective. A lot of stereotypes confuse the definition of each personality

[@morganm8710]

Hi Harry, many thanks for your great video. Do you think Convergent INTJs put themselves to others shoes to understand or empathize with their perspective, opinion, or point of view?

[@novaimperialis]

Yeah, 11:34 So that shows that my other friend is actually an INTJ but one who directs his energy into his divergent functions hence the divergent subtype. I see. It's kinda of like a dove who you put some black paint on it and you think that's actually a crow and can fly faster or something due to having larger wings. But when you look closer you see that it still has the normal wings of a dove. It also made me to question because there's a big difference between him and other ENTJs I have seen. Even if he appears more tough and ENTJ like his use of symbolism is still highly convergent and not divergent. Harry, your subtype system actually makes sense. It shows that types basically have a kind of structure but that is changed depending on those access points that change the charge of the energy into diffrent directions. I'm thinking of the form of an iron bar mould. You may have a diffrent prefference and when you put molten iron in that bar it would take more energy or material than if you would have used a lower size mould with which you are accustomed to. Now I want you to do another thing and prove to CSJ that INTJ are actually the one's who use symbolism and talk about the ouroboros and other esoteric things and not INFP "philosopher delta quadra" as he calls them. His conception of philosophy is that of a rudimentary nature of basic belief basically. The rudimentary sayings and personal philosophies of do good so you can have good or something and you wouldn't fail in life. But he doesn't take into account the more sophisticated kind of philosophy like analytical philosophy who requires a lot of logic to comprehend. This kind of philosophy would actually be more liked by NTs in general. So it's not that only delta quadra does that. Also, socionics is also wrong. The gamma quadra is not all about profits and stocks and bullcrap like that. The gamma quadra is highly existential as well. My last comment and all my notes are highly existential as well but I try to find some pragmatic value as well from that and not lose myself in things that may appear true but may actually not be true. Which relates to another point, the gamma quadra is also highly concerned with the truth and justice and of making things right. Please, Harry, noone understands. We are people too. They only see us from the position of their own Te, because it's their aspirational function they put to much emphasis on it and look at us from the prism of what they want. The same alchemical theory all again about seeing things from your own ability to manipulate them and not seeing them at their face value. Then those divergent INTJs who act ENTJ like they do it only because of social pressure. But we are a highly existential type. Take the lightsaber and make justice to our type and Typology in general! You are supposed to bring down the monster that are the innacurate stereotype. May the lightsaber of Ares offer you the strength necessary to defeat the monster. Do it for the people as INFJs tend to do! 13:42 Yes, Harry has heard us. He will defeat the monster!

[@lexiconartist5004]

So I'm an INFJ. When you refer to the 4th function, are you saying the 2nd function is always/usually mediated through the 4th. Or that they just naturally pair together since they use the same vector of attention. (i.e. introversion/extroversion) I tend to agree with you, I'm just wondering why so much emphasis is put on the 2nd function, where as an Infj, I always identified with my 1st/3rd function.

[@alfie8645]

Your description for the ambiverted INTJ strongly resonates with me. Really insightful stuff. It would be interesting to hear some practical advice or tips from you for different subtypes. Also, would you say this subtype is more likely to have a relatively hard time figuring out its type? Thanks again Harry for another awesome video.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Ambiverted variants across the board can struggle finding their type, aye. I love the idea of practical tips, I might play around with video title ideas for that one but it would be a perfect compliment to the subtype system :)

[@alfredbernardy215]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory that actually explains why I have trouble settling on my type, even still when coming to the conclusion that I might be one type I still question it because I see qualities that I share with another type.

[@novaimperialis]

Also, I'm kind of skeptical in relation to subtype systems because I think that it's just a lazy way of putting types in additional boxes since you don't know why that is happening. But in your system those additional boxes are actually making sense since they are different variations of type itself and they represent the dynamic within the functions of a type. Different dynamic which yields a different result or the subtype.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

The best correlations I see with your system and Socionics DCHN 4 subtype system is: Convergent = Normalizing Divergent = Creative Diver = Harmonizing Ambivert = Dominant

[@covetouscorvid2860]

I honestly would say it’s more like: Convergent = Normalizing Divergent = Dominant Diver = Harmonizing Ambivert = Creative Te correlates more to Dominant and Ne more to the Creative type. The introverted types are as you stated them originally. Based on these correlations, I would be the Diver, because I’m a harmonizing subtype, and I’d say this applies to me very well. It’s either that or convergent, but both descriptions definitely described my behavior and cognitive processes very well.

[@Ventura2050]

I would be inclined to call myself a divergent intj and seem to have developed a drive for wealth and success in order to escape the feeling of insecurity and dependence which I dread so much. There is a real danger to disconnect from less measurable life goals, in relationships for example. So I had to make the choice to expose myself to other environments, where I can learn to develop my other, less egotistical, traits.

[@xPinkMonsterx]

Do you have a video for ENTJ subtypes, if you do I haven't found it. If you don't I as an ENTJ woman would love a video like that 😊

[@KyiSoRo]

Interesting. I don't think I'm any particular subtype. Is there a type that would be considered "baseline"? I ask because I absolutely have a strong Fi, but I don't think it's to the extent of what was described in the convergent INTJ, and I definitely don't match the more extroverted INTJ subjects. I honestly think I'm one of the apparently few who may seem stereotypical based on the functions. For reference, I typically get this on function tests: Ni - Te - Fi - Si - Ti - Ne - Se - Fe in that order. That looks like the diver based just on order, but my Te is very strong. The Fi - Si - Ti trio does not really override it. If anything, those three together may stack up to my Te usage, but definitely not alone. I should also note that SiTi is not really used alone but to support Ni-Fi, if that makes sense.

[@makqa6675]

Thanks for this video, but I just wanted to ask if you think the characteristics of those subtypes could be combined at any particular moment?

[@xkagutaba]

i can understand the existence of the convergent-divergent subtypes, but not quite the other two. i mean, you can go down the shadow, sure, but not only it's an unconscious process, it's also an unstable one. you can't dwell much on a shadow function, it'll start to rip the ego, or at least, will fuel the anima/animus function possession. a shadow function is always a shadow function, even when it surfaces. we can only shine some light on it and try to understand its shadowy role in our everyday lives, and hopefully mitigate its unconscious influence on the ego.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

There is always a shadow within a subtype, it simply changes based upon what is within the ego :) In the case of total extreme introversion, the shadow will become more extraverted. What a person labels a shadow function is relative to what functions a person engages ordinarily much more than what functions a type is prescribed from a classification system As for the ambivert, one must entertain the idea of a type spectrum for it to be theoretically possible in the first place

[@lexiconartist5004]

Do you think a lot of Ni types are diagnosed with ADD as children? Especially since from the outside it might appear symptomatic of the DSM's definition.

[@imhereasalways9045]

First of all, thanks for your hard work on this content. I have a question. Is this normal for a convergent INTJ to relate himself/herself to others?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I would actually argue this to be typical - once the ego convergences into Fi, relation becomes a natural extension of self-exploration

[@imhereasalways9045]

​@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Thanks for the answer.

[@shahar_maz]

How can I distinguish between an intj convergent and an isfp ? Thank you

[@nihonmaksudur7662]

How can the Ambivert subtype can do that extensive cognitive development and not fall on the trap of neutrality ? Is the ambivert type dumb , since it will have it's function less developed always ?

[@MRDX-ej4yq]

I have a question... After a year of research i think im an intj thanks to your vedios.. But there is a problem.. As mach as iam very protective of my individuality and identity and taking responsability for my values and feelings... I worry about the emotional state of the other person alot and sometimes i give up my opinions (externay not internaly) just to not cause any discomfort... Is this fe or fi

[@nancykim7352]

Recently I met an INTJ and he had very high FE. I was confused to type him at first but more I knew him, he had more distinctive traits of INTJ than INFJ. I wonder it is similar if INFJ with high Ti stack gives out INTJ vibe. I have very high Ti as an INFJ yet I found myself my logic isn’t as strong as INTJs’ and INTJs’ FE isn’t as strong as mine.

[@joshuaoneill9061]

Wait, so is there a difference between the ENTP ambivert subtype and the INTJ ambivert subtype or are they the same thing? If they are the same thing, what would their dormant state be like? I ask because I feel like I am in the middle of these two types.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Since it's a spectrum chances are there'll be a lean towards one over the other, so both of these are slightly different. Good question! The introverted dormancy would be typical of an INTJ, whereas the extraverted dormancy (if the ambivert was closer to ENTP) would be a softer Te less contingent upon external interaction. The dormant state theory has been updated since the last video on it so technically both introverts and extroverts have an introverted dormant preference to some degree.

[@ourochroma]

I did had trouble wrapping around the idea that I was too much too close to ENTP, despite INTJ being right at a 99% rate.

[@everythingblack7976]

I always wondered why I identified so much with Ni-Ti-Fi So would it be an INTJ Diver? I also identified with the convergent

[@junaakarin7742]

Can i request the Infj subtype too?

[@Hope-ck6hy]

I think intj just as any i type, tends to look like other types in real life because most society prefers an e type!

[@Hope-ck6hy]

Ok, it seems that I am an Ambivert subtype according to your classification.

[@simonc9874]

Is it an INT-J trait to wish you'd hurry up and summarise your points. I want to listen but I'm just keen to get to the point.

[@terryesque]

I have a question: the diver subtype has very strong SiTi in control, are they very different from an ISFJ or even ISTJ in some aspect?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

SiTi is still subordinate to NiFi dominance here, so while they will use the pairing to a similar extent it is ultimately to serve a more existential agenda

[@pinkbanana1276]

Definitely diver

[@harmoniics]

(INTJ hack for long videos) hi Gemini.. can you please summarise the you tube video for me entitled "4 Subtypes of The INTJ"?

[@sunnyhills252]

Not sure if you are going In specific order of type and sub-type if you are ignore this. If not I love to request intp be next I can see I am intp there is no doubt about that But I take on some unusual qualities that I think your system can illuminate. I have studied mbti soconics and opt. I settled on your system because it focuses on the chain or movement of the functions includes individuation and is focused on progressing the transient function or the fluent movement of all cognative functions into a unity. Thank you for moving " personality type " into a system that is dynamic and growth oriented.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I really appreciate this comment! I have some other videos in the pipeline before another subtype one but INTP subtypes will likely be next in this series

[@sunnyhills252]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Great, thank you for your responce. I will keep a look out for it.

[@DesertILI]

Interesting video on things. I think you might benefit from a nomenclature change though. Dump using the word "subtype" and call them something else. It's going to get conflated with the subtypes in crappy systems like OP. I also don't think it's accurate. Types and, to me, subtypes are static. They're not something that changes. Whereas what you're describing has some fluidity to it. I'd need to dig deeper into your five variations but from this video it sounds like I'd be called a Ambiverted INTJ most of the time right now but I do display as the default and and INTJ Driver variations often. I think setting and activity partially dictate it for me. Like when I'm at work, programmer, I think I might fluctuate between Driver and Ambivert based on what I'm focusing on. Do you think age also plays a factor in which variation is presenting itself and how often it changes? This is a thought based off my last line above. I'm in my mid-forties now, if I reflect on myself I think I'm more fluid with the variations now than when I was younger. I think it was a lot more static when I was a teen. I'm not sure if that's a recency bias though and also a by product of my Si.

[@gabrielalsham2192]

Entj subtypes next right?🤔

[@leonayansola1752]

Can you be more visual though? There are no subtitles to use the words for visualization in my head and the graphical photos you use do not explain much as per what you say.

[@sugarcravings1797]

Can you type me based on my big five traits? O: O 21%, C 17%, E 38%, A 31%, N 23%

[@sirlancealittles]

I just want to control the world. Is that wrong ?

[@studywid]

Nature - cognitive function Nurture - enneagram

[@kurodesuuuu]

You look so INFJ-like with longer hair haha

[@Diaming787]

You could have summarized the Divergent INTJ into two words: Stereotypical INTJ

[@meilei8716]

Intj ambivert makes the most sense.

[@tradways]

sorry dude, i got board and lost focus by 1:30.

[@TarzanHedgepeth]

Black shirt… I see what you’re doing.

[@deetee8337]

why are your typing services so expensive? that’s such a big barrier to entry and it’s inaccessible.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

My service isn't as straightforward as paying for an hour of my time, as I spend additional hours reaching the conclusion, typing out the full analysis and putting together the pdf. I do offer an alternative typing service for those shorter on cash, whereby you can be typed my fellow typologist Rob, who unlike me gives the conclusion within the same session :) Ultimately it comes down to time investment, but if you compare my prices to CS Joseph and maybe OP I hope they don't seem quite so expensive by comparison

[@deetee8337]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory thank you for your response. that’s fair reasoning - i do like to have a typed up written report. however, the pdf is only available to tier 1 and 2 though, right? that’s a good alternative to have, i’ll have to check that out. and ah, i’m not interested in the methodology of those typologists. your method looks perfect to me!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

@@deetee8337 All include a pdf but only Tier II includes the full scored pdf :)

[@beautifullittleoni1216]

[@JennyFB1281]

Does anyone else think that INTX types seem to have some traits that overlap with traits of people on the Autism Spectrum?