4 year University Vs. Accelerated Flight School

[@KY4CQ_HamRadio]

This being a sales pitch for the school, here are some important considerations that they left out. Going to an accelerated school without a degree will require 1500 hours of time to get to the airlines. A university program will allow you to get there with only 1000 hours. 500 hours doesn't sound like a lot, but believe me, that is about an extra year of instructing. If you have FAFSA or VA benefits, you can likely get your college degree program paid for, or at least most of it. Most of these accelerated flight schools won't maximize your VA benefits or will partner you with banks that will charge you crazy interest rate for years. Don't buy into the hype without doing your research.

[@airplanekiwi6019]

yeah im currently a sophmore at Western michigan university in in their professional pilot program and the whole reason I chose to go is so I could apply my fafsa aid towards my flight costs

[@velvetcorridor]

@@airplanekiwi6019 how’s the school? Western Michigan is one of my top choices atm but I haven’t really spoken to anyone studying flight there

[@airplanekiwi6019]

@@velvetcorridor ngl they have really increased the entry requirements to get in. When I applied the average GPA for incoming freshmen was a 3.4, for the incoming class for fall 2022 the averge gpa is 3.9. overall its not a bad program but count on it taking 5- 7 years to get your degree and your hours for your commercial time. weather during the spring is a nightmare so staying over the summer to fly is a must.

[@velvetcorridor]

@@airplanekiwi6019 would you say the time it takes to get your degree and hours for an atp license affects your airline seniority much when compared to r-atp schools like OSU?

[@airplanekiwi6019]

@@velvetcorridor well you do also graduate with an R-atp which only requires 1000 hours as well as acess to programs such as skywest cadetship, delta propel, and united aviate etc

[@Mrpilo]

How will people concentrate having flight school and online college at the same time? Also, Can Accelerated flight school transfer credit hours to the online college?

[@jimprior5700]

No where in this whole pitch did they say that most major airlines want a 4 year degree or that it is very desirable.

[@polarcreator4820]

Is it though?

[@AkagiRedSun]

I made a mistake going to 2 yr college aviation program which advertise graduate with college degree w/part 141 PL, IR, ME, Commerical and CFI for starting $74000. On my first semester classes were extremely strict that 40% didn’t even pass the ground class and only 1 out of 38 finish the flight portion of the private in time and I was 2nd student to do so. Flight portion cost me close to $14000 due to them having multiple needless lesson for stage checks and by the time when I was done with the PL I had over 60hrs on flight and 10hrs on sim. Worse part is I found out that 2yr plan didn’t even start till you’re on IR so even with taking full summer course with flying everyday on the break for intermediate level it will take 2.5 yrs which was very miss leading. Every stage check felt like hell that they’ll find someway to fail you on stage check so they could send you back to previous Lessing to get another $700 out of you. On the oral they kept on up my answer that they even ask something that even ACs don’t even have in the book like Pendulous Vane for AH and Frontal Genesis.

[@m.tulippp]

Hi what school was this?

[@zacharyvidaurri5927]

What school was this? I’ll stay Far away as possible

[@miraexo3705]

What School pleasee

[@xxxkingahmed1375]

was this ATP flight school

[@camaleon18]

Please answer which school

[@mnaviator]

What if you go to the flight school and then you realize you don't want to become a pilot? Wouldn't all that money go to waste?

[@ThrustFlight]

It absolutely would. So the question is if you are going to go to a flight school do you want to spend 4 years and $200k+ on a degree for something you later might not want, or spend $85k and 1 year on all of your ratings? Another alternative is get a degree in something not related to aviation and save flight training for after college. We have a blog article outlining these 3 options here- www.thrustflight.com/going-to-college-to-become-an-airline-pilot/

[@suzanajr1981]

How can you get a bachelor's degree in 2 years that too online?Most major airlines require or prefer a 4year degree.Also if one majors in something non-aviation related the flight hours wouldn't count as credit points so wouldnt that further delay the period of finishing college?

[@ThrustFlight]

Suzana Jr that’s very true, this only works if your degree is in aviation. Otherwise your degree would take the traditional 4 years, since your ratings could not transfer as college credit hours for a non-aviation major.

[@imachavel]

Also different flight schools have different reputations. Some are very Micky Mouse. Does that effect a persons chance to get hired after putting in hundreds if not thousands of flight hours for different license and ratings to possibly get denied by people who know of a schools reputation? Yes. Is that fair? Yes. Some schools believe in the highest standard of training and others do not. "What is the difference? We have a fleet of planes and helicopters. They do. We have mechanical maintenance and teach pre flights and flight patterns and weather checks and weight and balance. How is it our fault if constant mistakes happen? Its up to the students not to apply themselves not the school. They learn in their ground lessons. They can apply their knowledge to their flight." Ok really? So a guy goes to one school with a reputation for spotty maintenance, shady pre flight inspections, on the fly weather checks, who knows if the flight pattern went according or if radio contact and squawk was constant and accurate. Its not the schools fault bad students don't follow lessons. It isn't? So if a taxi company has constant drivers that do not change tires or do oil checks and run red lights its not the taxi companies fault? "The mechanics don't drive and the drivers are not mechanics. Mistakes happen." Look why not pay $50 - $200 for a ground hour or $200 - $700 for a flight hour and skip college. This is under the impression you are getting the most accurate training possible. Is that easy? Why would it be? I imagine its pretty hard to run a business like that. But anyone that runs a business otherwise is running crap. Will bad schools have good instructors? Yes why not. Often taking the side of the school that trained them even when its obvious the place is a well known joke from coast to coast. Pilots often have fun training for emergencies. In planes they test power on stall spin recoveries and in helicopters low engine rpm auto rotations. But you know why? To understand emergencies and avoid ever needing to go through real life emergencies on the job. Its kind of like if a taxi driver was required to test driving a car in a scenario where the brakes go out and how to circle the car to lose forward power until the car slows down. Ok taxi drivers are not crash test dummies so that does not happen. But lets imagine. Does that mean the actual passengers care at all about reliving this scenario? No not at all! They never want to experience a loss of brake emergency and hopefully never have to. Just like anyone in an airplane that is a passenger does not ever actually want to experience a stall in a plane or auto rotation in a helicopter. Showboating pilots only go so far. They are trained at schools known for cheap and spotty training. Does that suck for dedicated students and employees? Well yes. They are equivalently getting a badly rated uber review just for flying at a piece of crap place to begin with. I mean it would suck to imagine putting in tons and tons of work at a place over a thousand hours and get black listed. You know a good idea? Before you go to a fixed wing flight school or a helicopter school call up Cessna or Robinson or Bell. Ask them what flight requirements should be? They will probably have you write down a list of 5 pages of stuff they require from their pilots. Then go to the school and ask for every single thing down the list. If out of 500 requirements the school can suit 450 of them then drop them. Why would Cessna give advice to a future fixed wing pilot or Bell or Robinson give advice to a future helicopter pilot going to a competing flying institute? These schools use their aircraft for training and represent their reputation. Also they are limited to how many pilots they can train at the factory. So sending students that train in their aircraft to a thorough school is a priority of theirs. I am saying do your research. If the manufacturer of a plane or helicopter does not trust a school training students on their aircraft don't go. Also no its not a pilots job to do mechanic checks on an aircraft its a mechanics. But so what. Ask to see the mechanical reports and airworthiness checks of every aircraft and if the school does not show you DON'T GO! It is still the pilots job to ensure an aircraft is airworthy and mechanically sound and the instruments light up accordingly and the weather is safe for each flight. That is WHAT YOU ARE TRAINED FOR! $200 an hour might save you money vs college but its still A TON OF MONEY! Why get ripped off for $130,000 to fly at a blacklisted school? Bad schools poorly represent the good students and instructors that poor blood to work hard to keep the school "active on the runway" so to speak. These people get screwed by a school that becomes a badly rated uber ride. Rest in peace to the careers of hard workers screwed by shady management. Oh well such is the nature of life in America and the way of capitalism. If someones burger makes you sick you go down the street to the next burger place. If one flight school is trying to crash a plane you head down the runway to the next spot. No one enjoys competitively running people out of the sky. But it is what is! This is 🇺🇸 America. Take advantage! Edit: FTW cirrusaircraft.com/training/ cessnaflighttraining.kingschools.com/Index.aspx robinsonheli.com/robinson-courses/maintenance-course/about-the-maintenance-course/ www.bellflight.com/support/training There are really good standards for training use these to compare. Lots of places live up to this just don't use places that don't

[@ComputerSchool101]

Can you get student loans for an accelerated flight school? Or do you need the money upfront?

[@ThrustFlight]

Many larger flight schools do have financing options.

[@Deanjacob7]

ya if you want an 11% interest rate

[@slimmick8212]

I'm totally going to believe this information since it is published by a nonbias flight school. Jesus christ. College flight is just as great. It offers a degree that you can fall back on if your pilot career falls through. Go get your degree in aeronautical engineering and have career flexibility, and most colleges, like ASU, have partnerships with airlines too so that you can get a job as soon as you graduate. Also, if you're not made of money, school loans are cheaper than the ones you'd take out for a private license.

[@zeyadmohamedmahmoudelsayed9267]

Should I have a degree in aviation field or can I have a degree in like business or any other field as a backup yk+what degree do major airlines prefer?

[@ThrustFlight]

Majors typically aren't that concerned with what your degree is in. Since by the time you are ready to apply at a major airline you will have been flying at the regionals for awhile and will have all your ratings and hours, they will be looking more at your time as a pilot than your degree type. Actually getting a degree outside of aviation is a good idea in a lot of ways. This industry is a volatile one, so having a fallback is a good way to prepare for that.

[@zeyadmohamedmahmoudelsayed9267]

Thrust Flight Academy Does that mean that it is not obligatory to have a degree to be a pilot even region one?

[@ThrustFlight]

This varies airline to airline. Regionals typically do not require degrees. Majors typically do. Check out our blog post for more information. www.thrustflight.com/going-to-college-to-become-an-airline-pilot/

[@camaleon18]

@@ThrustFlight can I please know what you mean by that “majors” term?

[@chief5981]

@@camaleon18 majors are the really big airlines- United, Delta, etc. they’re the pilots flying the big planes like a 747 out of country.

[@bibhusitadhikari9390]

How much do international student need to score in ielts to get admission in thrust flight academy?

[@shomst7904]

From tik tok. Super helpful thanks

[@FrostyK]

Can you go straight from High School to Flight school? if not what would be the best choice for the remaining of the time?

[@ThrustFlight]

You can go straight from high school to flight school. You can go to a university and/then flight school, or go straight to an accelerated flight school.

[@FrostyK]

@@ThrustFlight I was originally going to ATP but I’ve seen comments of people saying you need 2 years in college or 2 years of job experience

[@KOUKAROS-GR]

Hi! Great channel! Can you make a video for universities for aviation bachelors degree? I am finishing atpl flight academy and I want to continue for a bachelor's degree but I don’t know which.. I would like to be better pilot and more competitive for a company because i am at 30s. i am a european citizen. please help me clear this out as is complicated i guess.. thank you! Also universities like embry riddle bachelors is valid to Europe ??

[@ryewilliams1232]

I want to become a pilot but i am doing the lowest math class 🙁

[@joshuadelacerda7380]

pilots dont need to be good at math.

[@jimprior5700]

how are you doing in English grammar?

[@amoriprint]

You will be fine

[@gabrielvazquez1691]

As someone who went to college and the program has taken over 5 years, I highly recommend you go to flight school first and get the ratings. Better to later be studying while being able to earn money as a CFI than a student who's been waiting all his bachelor's degree life to be a CFI. Start earning money earlier.

[@ThrustFlight]

Well said Gabriel! Thanks for sharing your experience with us and those that are considering the two options.

[@acoubenchrys]

Bachelor's of aviation and bachelor's of aviation management which one is best?

[@ሰሎሞን]

Management

[@flyer49er91]

I am retired from a major airline Your first & hardest interview to get in the door for the process to get a pilot position is the interview with the personnel department. These people are not pilots, at best they might fly non rev once a year. They interview people from mechanic to baggage to accountant. On my first interview with personnel department I was ask where are you employed now. I stated I was flying a C141 in my reserve unit. The interviewer replied don’t give me any of those Pilot numbers, oh I see you are restoring a old British car. I replied yes. Her husband & her had a old British car and on weekends drove in rally’s with their clubs to destination cafes for lunch. So the whole interview was British car, classic dinners & cafes. I got promoted to the pilot interview on a extreme fast tract, like the next day to the head of the pack. My suggestion is to major in music, art or travel industry like a tourist. These people work for the airline because they like to travel, they have no interest what aircraft you fly, that’s like when they interviewed the accountant in the afternoon they discussed addition & subtraction LOL.

[@MatthewNislein]

Great video, thank you!

[@mansnotprot1544]

So you need a bachelor no matter what? Does it matter in what major?

[@ThrustFlight]

Not necessarily no matter what. Different airlines have different preferences, it's just a good idea if you want to fly for the majors. Check out our blog post www.thrustflight.com/going-to-college-to-become-an-airline-pilot/ for a breakdown of which airlines require a college degree and which ones don't. Also it absolutely does not matter what you major in 99.9% of the time.

[@Sss12698]

No it doesn’t matter just get something u would like, the airlines would accept a degree in almost anything

[@TAnimations]

Does the military GI bill cover accelerated flight school?

[@deeznuts7912]

Yes not the full amount like a university I think it pays around $20,000

[@TAnimations]

@@deeznuts7912 I probably couldn't get in anyways. I will graduate with barely over a 3.0 GPA. I will probably get a bachelors degree in a college that offers aviation degrees.

[@benjaminecklar6657]

What if you want to go into the air force as an officer?

[@ThrustFlight]

To be honest I don't know a lot about Air Force requirements since we specialize in commercial pilot careers. If they don't need a degree then just do accelerated flight training as fast and affordable as possible would be my suggestion.

[@videogameplayer0552]

Air Force Requires degrees for pilots. You could go to the Air Force Academy, which is a four year university, or through an ROTC program at a university that has one, to earn your commission as an officer. If you already have a degree, you can go straight to officer training school in the Air Force, which I believe is around 10-20 weeks, after which you can begin flight training if given a pilot slot. A final option is to apply directly to a specific squadron of the Air National Guard, which would allow you more certainly ahead of time in knowing whether or not you’ll get a pilot slot, and the specific aircraft you’ll be flying.

[@jimprior5700]

@@ThrustFlight all U.S. military , officer candidate schools require college degrees

[@booneboone9705]

​@@jimprior5700Not in the army

[@farissaleem7810]

what is better?

[@ThrustFlight]

It completely depends on each persons unique situation. If you are 100% wanting to be an airline pilot and want to get there as quickly as possible, then accelerated flight school. If you want to be marketable for other industries, then college.

[@makair8542]

@@ThrustFlight Whats the best accelerated flight school

[@dulcemaya6849]

I have 3 questions. How many years is accelerated flight school, what age is the youngest to attend and also what certificate will they give me ?

[@good_nyght8325]

Depending on the school u plan on going for example in atp it can be from 2year to even 6 if you come in with your private pilot’s certificate 2. U can get your private pilot’s certificate at 17 but all other ratings are mostly from 18 and up

[@mikesaenz4077]

Thanks 😊

[@prashantranjitkar]

Can an international student get a job as a pilot in the USA after doing bachelors in aviation in USA? How hard is it?

[@richardguzman5761]

Yes

[@flyer49er91]

Yes; however just have to marry a American to get a green card (K-1 VISA), which is no problem a number of women hang out at pilot training clubs looking for a pilot husband (watch movie "Officer & Gentlemen" cadet from Oklahoma especially) fiction but based on a lot of real life. Just divorce after getting the airline job and off probation. Alaska Airlines has a huge number of these type of flight crewmembers..

[@LukaT]

Well, in my country (Slovenia, Europe) it’s better to go to university. Why? Because we have free education. Yes, any study in most of European countries is free for their citizens. And yes, we have better education than most American universities. So you go to the university. At the end you have complete ATPL theory + degree in engineering. You just have to pay for flight hours (still a lot, but wayyy less than paying for flight school theory). Europe is such a wonderful place!

[@LukaT]

@J M Sorry to have offended you. But we have high quality education. And in my opinion it’s kinda nice that people who go to university aren’t the ones with money but the smart ones.

[@aseem7w9]

Europe and US both have amazing and not so good universities, here in my country US is very much preferred to go and study in because if you have to pay why not pay for the best? Europe is mostly for US visa rejects since it's an easier place to go.

[@flyer49er91]

Some private flight university are very high price. They tend not to flunk out students who are parents are paying big buck. At least one has almost lost its accreditation because of this type of payout, where all students pass sooner or later. E-RAU

[@topofthegreen]

Most employers require a collage degree. You could spend over $200,000.

[@Mrpilo]

Didnt airlines stop requiring a degree

[@dronieproductions3191]

So if you go to an accelerated flight school, you can’t to to the majors because you don’t have a degree?

[@StrictlySports]

You don’t need one anymore plus you can do an online degree

[@jimprior5700]

@@StrictlySports your chances a lot greater with a degree

[@ColinCamm]

first of all where are you going to find an 85000 dollar program, and only a 25000 dollar degree this is unrealistic

[@philipwethington7965]

I watch one of your videos about picking the right school, but I look at the date 2017 and I thought man how long it was, back it was 2017, and I didn't think I would get closer to 2020. I was looking for a answer still looking. A little history about me, I am unsure of how many hours I had 20 to 40 give or take either way, Late 1978 to 1981, I would never try to fly with out a flight Instructor, Me I would probably just go back to school. It is a lot different then, then it is now. I got a aircraft radio with tubes in it, it did work at one time, I haven't try to turn it on i bet since 1980. we flew a Cessna 150, then he got a Cherokee 140 it was a 4 - seat, it had power. My Question is, can some one can help me to remember, I use to fly with a friend he was always trying to think safety first, I really like that, he always said we don't have a cloud hook, if we ran into trouble, We always check the fuel in both wings and I can not recall how we check the carburetor for water, But we use a ruler to check how much fuel we had in each wing, Does anyone Know how to do that ? Or what I am talking about ? We always did a walk around Pre - flight before we took off even when we landed and came back to our plane we done a walk around Just to be safe we check every thing again. I forgot how to use a ruler to see how much fuel we had. Does anyone Know ? I sure hope you understand what i am asking.

[@Bricks281]

Hahahahah why am I 10 and watching this video I bet there is going to be no planes in the future😂😂😂

[@jimprior5700]

You could probably be an English grammar scholar

[@acoubenchrys]

Bachelor's of aviation and bachelor's of aviation management which one is best?

[@ThrustFlight]

It's really a matter of personal preference. Choose the one that's most interesting to you. If your goal is to become an airline pilot both options will work.