40 Years of Men's Goth Style (in under 5 minutes)

Men's Goth Fashion History Timelapse: From UK punks through vampires, death rockers and Edwardian gentleman, the evolution of goth men's clothing, hair and make-up styles.
WARNING: Strobe / Flashing Lights Scenes.
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Model: Jesse-James
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Director of Photography: Daniel Williams
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Make-up: Andrea Heldman
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Costume Design: Adriana Fulop
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Edited by: Melissa Hore

[@--Paws--]

Props to the model for even acting out what he is wearing.

[@LiisaLadouceur]

He did an awesome job! Honorary goth now for life.

[@cadavera6.6.6.]

I was your like #666. Woot woot! lol. That made my fekkin week! What do I win?

[@Skelloween]

Man was hot af

[@cadavera6.6.6.]

@Ivy Nyx yessssss! Lol. Good one.

[@cadavera6.6.6.]

@@Skelloween hell yeah he is

[@winteralley190]

I bet a lot of goths are fuming about the emo bit.

[@KaiDecadence]

Meh, I already knew they were going to feature it (they did a sneak peak a month before this) and sure, I really don't think it belongs here at all but I just made my own little celebration for Goth instead of throw a large hissyfit lol

[@chrisboissevain8268]

Emos are too, me and my friends all clicked the dislike button as soon as we saw it.

[@funghoul2199]

Winter Alley I'm emo / baby bat goth and I was a bit stiff about them introducing emo in with goth. they're completely different yet emo was caused by goth to a extent so I can't be too mad born in 96 all I'm gonna say is 2:38 is Frank Iero MCR revenge era in one simple picture (that we can all agree on haha)

[@KaiDecadence]

Again, you're very misinformed. Emo did not come from Goth at all. It came from Punk (more specifically, California Hardcore Punk). Goth came from Post Punk and both are different styles of Punk. Literally, the only thing that Goth & Emo share are that their from the punk movement, that's all. The first emo band was a band called Rites of Spring (1984) and they helped kickstart emo and the genre received popularity in the 90s but died down in the mainstream towards the end of that era. Then we got pop punk gaining popularity in the late 90s to the early 2000s and Emo found it's way back to the mainstream shortly after. Goth for the most part was always underground. The most attention it ever had was in the 80s before it receded back into the underground in the 90s. Anyway, short little lesson aside, the point is that Emo and Goth were never the same thing, ever. The only reason people (usually younger) believe that is because the mainstream stupidly pushed that out with things like "Emo is the new Goth" and other similar idioms which was not true (but who can blame the mainstream, they try to use hot buzzwords to sell things to people when it comes to alternative subcultures).

[@michaelkent2647]

Kai_Decadence emo and goth aren't the same but they are related to each other, emo is goths bratty young cousin/brother, both came from father punk, my friend we are all apart of the alternative family tree, from goths, punks, emos, metalheads, ect where all children of darkness and of rock n roll music.!!

[@cate8956]

comments: 48%: Emo vs. Goth 48%: Black Friday's husband, Matthias 4%: How hot the model is

[@lakinworley5685]

Caterina Rossie i mean he really does fancy him...

[@GravellionDaizeen]

This....is unbelievably accurate.

[@KuroiHato69]

That is basically the gist of it! LOL

[@ambrosiablack2061]

I belong to that 4%

[@lillianhauser-howells7809]

Belong to the 4%

[@bastsmoon3785]

Why is emo on here? Emo and Goth are two totally different suncultures from attitude to fashion

[@DeadAngel14]

Emo had evolved from punk, yet took inspiration from both the punk and the goth subcultures.

[@OrkarIsberEstar]

gothic has also evolved out of punk. Sadly Emo is goth, just as cybergoth is. Emo is gothic for pussys

[@cosmicaxolotl5692]

Goth or emo definatly wouldnt call them a sun.culture 😂 everyone to pale for that😆

[@lukecipher9219]

Yes I agree

[@ivyvelasquez4773]

Thank you

[@eggboi4488]

WE NEED AN INDUSTRIAL COMEBACK

[@skeletonkiss1112]

THANK YOU

[@PolarBear-rc4ks]

Thank you!

[@WolfMoonWings]

Check out 3TEETH and Author&Punisher

[@DementedLycan]

Seriously. I need more industrial pals. I feel lone wolfed and I kinda hate it 😂 but I love the style

[@glokta_2531]

The world needs more hot gothic men xD

[@Alexandra_0209]

especially Edwardians and Vampire a.k.a Victorian styled MEN LIKE SERIOUSLY!!!!! I only see "emo" boys these days... ;_; which is not even goth.....

[@fyrefaerie1441]

dont 4get cyber goth,that is freaking awesome!

[@ForLorNVuLgaR]

Youre not looking hard enough

[@allthatgirlcoronado]

Julija Opacic hell no, I like my men masculine

[@DusableLewis]

*ZORA* ...to each its own

[@centrifugalmuse]

Yep, 36 here and I remember all past 1990. Went to high school with vamps and dudes wearing crow makeup. Still attracted to it, and now my 14 year old daughter likes goth dudes lol. By the way, this guy is gorgeous!

[@centrifugalmuse]

Tesseract not my fav but the model pulled it off well lol.

[@krassergamerLP]

You are gorgeous and hope you have a nice day

[@pigion_chokingoneabrick1211]

Oml lol

[@ronaldowens5025]

Early 90s teen here, the industrial goth was what all the rivet heads that were following the T.O.P.Y movement laughed at. What's shown is store bought fashion that was picking up the trends from what was crawling around the gutters making due with a pair boots jeans and an old army jacket.

[@angelina_moon_child]

the guy is so hot

[@emonighteverything4827]

Reminder: even though it shows the model wearing black clothes, trad goths did wear other colors as well. You also don't have to dress a certain way to be goth, just gotta listen to the music.

[@NormaItzel]

Why do I find this so fucking attractive? Did you see his eyes?! 😍

[@andrewrusso4778]

Why is he so hot???

[@lonewanderer6377]

Coffee Skulls Because he's goth.

[@deeds517]

Yes he is.

[@nora-kg4yg]

Coffee Skulls Because he must be a model

[@kmd0000]

edwardian is definitely my favorite of them all. please don’t tell me i’m the only one hear obsessed with that kind of thing.

[@BoshiLager]

The Cyber Goth is awesome

[@bluedreams6251]

0:41 anyone noticed the teardrop?

[@Sand-Walker13]

Blue Dreams. Yes

[@solongsuicide9]

*notice

[@naizm9960]

Blue Dreams ıts because of the disgusting things he has to wear

[@giraffedaddytmkillme2627]

Void *shh*

[@awyeahlasvegas7300]

Void no

[@murasakino101]

10 year old me: **is frightened every time I see the style** Me at 20: BEAUTIFUL, AMAZING, INSPIRING! ✨ But on a serious note, my outlook on fashion has drastically changed over the years. I started to appreciate other different styles and have learned more about them. As much as I love the fashion, I'm not brave enough for gothic styles since I don't want to be judge but I wish they were appreciated more.

[@doegywhail728]

Not how I remeber the goth scene during the 80's. Well not in the U.K. anyway.

[@LiisaLadouceur]

We were not lucky enough to be in the UK during that exciting time. What would you have put the male model in from your era/area?

[@doegywhail728]

Well a lot of my friends went the wayne Hussey way with either long back combed/messed up hair, black cowboy type hats, waist coats with purple (dark)paisley backs, black jeans, white cheese cloth shirts or black ones some times the odd Tshirt . shite loads of bangles either thin or big brassy types with the odd plaited type too. celtic cross necklace Large to small along with other bootlace type neck apparel full length trench or leather coats(I would see the odd herringbone full length here and there but they were mostly worn by the Diddy goths.)some went as far to do the Nephilim thing and dust them selves in flour(don't ask) others went the Robert Smith root and had big back combed hair, long baggy cardigans (sometimes they would be like a big open knit), skinny black jeans, beaded necklaces foot wear was either winkle picker type boots (not as strapped and buckled as they are now.) DM's To the odd case of suede loafers. a lot of it was what was devised by going through Oxfam or other charity shops, and there was always a heavy smelly of patchouli oil. The girls would either go with the big backcombed hair bold black eye liner with long embroidered black dresses once again full length trench type coats or something velvet or they went the pretty way and looked like All About Eve's lead singer Julianne Regan. some times you see the odd colour used amongst the black usually Blood reds just here and there. Well that's what I remember anyway.

[@LiisaLadouceur]

Those were the days! Certainly remember that paisley/cowboy/whateveryoucanfind look from photos and it was great wasn't it?

[@doegywhail728]

was definitely a different time one I won't see again.

[@JSW9174]

this is the goth rock look of the mid-late 80s. sort of the standard goth look. i guess the earlier punkier style is more fashionable now, which is why this style was overlooked in the video

[@skrrskrr6464]

1990 pls omg i want to live during the vampire times

[@Cata995]

3:38 looks like ~It's Black Friday~'s husband! :D

[@sharonchavis7272]

I like gothic fashion.shows another side of someone

[@KrysAsselin]

EMO IS NOT GOTH

[@Pai262]

'Skinny Puppy' tattoo appreciation comment

[@sadaesthetic7598]

1:22 goth vampire Is the best 🖤

[@holliisixx]

I wanna take him for a walk, too.

[@jakemackenzie4880]

Same

[@SouthernBelleReviews]

To my bedroom

[@remington8617]

@@SouthernBelleReviews gross

[@ramona974]

@@remington8617 lol no

[@saifulizhan]

I think new romantic era wasn't that accurately potrayed. It wasn't that all about gloomy/ dark. We had colors. Wearing pirates and victorian era clothes. And also laces.

[@HydeTheCreator]

0:54 he looks like edward scissorhands

[@nihilisticbarbie]

Deadass thought that too

[@strawberrygoldfish]

"What are you doing?" "Taking my goth for a walk."

[@kylecurran6747]

I have a horribly dirty mind if this is how someone else took this. Oh well

[@ight3817]

@@kylecurran6747 k good for you? No one cares you're perverted.. lmao

[@Abass.03]

@@ight3817 shut up u 2 year old kid.

[@seairhasheridan3110]

@@kylecurran6747 same, don't worry 😅😂

[@shadowpoet4398]

Walk hm. That's new *rolls eyes*

[@sekai9906]

I love how many people hate on the gothic fashion, and yet it is much more stylish than most fashions.

[@cameleonfleuri]

Absolutely agree with you!

[@Vixa_Jaz]

You can get really creative with it! I wish I had the confidence to wear this style out more often.

[@Dumb_Killjoy]

Mainstream fashion (fashion shows) is often full of tasteless crap.

[@TerracedMckenna]

@@Dumb_Killjoy mainstream fashion is ''im cool cuz im wearing what everyone else is wearing and im not unique at all''

[@mattnelson9010]

Anicée AMET I agree!!!!

[@julesb.1840]

I am seriously the only one to comment on how freaking hot this model is?

[@fejkrysia7951]

omg yaaaaas

[@selery_27]

Julia Berglund he is Black Friday's husband :3

[@BereG96]

Selena Duran Flores He's actually not! His name is under the description box but I also thought it was him ☺

[@selery_27]

B G let me live in my beautiful lie (?) hahahha but yeah, he is not :c

[@kabinettprod7365]

Me too xD

[@--Paws--]

When you can't figure out what your Sims character should look like...

[@gerardjackson4104]

I can relate

[@aakazoo8452]

Can confirm, this is exactly what it looks like for me

[@yourmum1963]

LOL YES

[@Ayveh]

Lmao yess!!!

[@iiker6ng801]

nobody: tiktok girls: omg an eboy Thanks for the likes !💀🖤

[@cloudiiday5557]

Trashy Iker that’s not how they dress lol there is a big difference

[@stephanvanderzee]

Haha so true

[@beatriceladouce965]

@@cloudiiday5557 hmmm that *was* the point.

[@cloudiiday5557]

Beatrice Ladouce ..?

[@pumpkinmagik5278]

Trashy Iker 🙄🙄🙄

[@cy4n_knight_q8]

This comment section is: 60% Thirsty girls 20% "EmO Is NoT GoTH" 15% memes 5% *Why was this on my recommendations*

[@LiisaLadouceur]

100% accurate!

[@WEREWOLFxALPHA]

SCARlet_DRaKox13 emo is not goth though No wrong Gothic fashion has dresses, Coats, boots, cross belts, thick eye liner, corpse paint, medieval fashion, and also has art, scenery, architecture, dark culture, horror, writing, and some would argue that goth was born in the 18th century and others would say it was born from the post punk era or the dark punk like the misfits as an example Goth also has many genres of music or music with gothic influences from gothic rock to gothic metal to black metal and alternative metal and symphonic metal Some goth bands are The sisters of mercy Bauhaus The cure Marilyn Manson Motionless in white Avenged sevenfold Black Sabbath Alice cooper Rob zombie Ozzy Osborne Star industry Golden apes Fields of the nephlhim Him Rammstein 9 inch nails Nightwish ( I would argue that my chemical romance, and black veil brides is a mix of goth and emo) Emo is a genre of music that got popular in the 1990s emo meaning emocore or emotional metal, emo fashion is usually long v necks, torn Jeans, and of course long straight hair, emo music is indie rock, emocore, post hardcore Emo was a genre of music that grew into a music statement and grew into a subculture Emo bands are Asking Alexandria Paramor Falling in reverse Bring me the horizon Panic at the sick Say anything Sunny day real estate Pierce the veil Sleeping sirens Who is me Jimmy eat world Taking back Sunday

[@jonbertocchi173]

Yeah i dont know how i got here.

[@feliciacat88]

I’m apart of the 60% thirsty

[@mariacaracante]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@damienreynaldo458]

40 years of “ITS NOT A PHASE MOM, THIS IS WHO I AM”

[@jhonnycagexrage7458]

False

[@thesinkingduck2524]

I've never seen an emo be emo for more than 10 years so the disease can be cured and there's hope for those "unique individual random edgy people"

[@jhonnycagexrage7458]

@@thesinkingduck2524 Emo is not the same as goth ignorants :v

[@thesinkingduck2524]

@@jhonnycagexrage7458 I never said it was you just assumed I meant goth as well cause the world revolves around you

[@jhonnycagexrage7458]

@@thesinkingduck2524 The comment says "40 years of it's not a phase mom" refering to 40 years of goth styles then you appear and claim that you never saw an emo being emo for more than 10 years having as a reference the 40 years of goth style that was previously mentioned so i assumed that you were confusing both it's not that the world revolves around me your bad joke has no context

[@raetait967]

That got really fucking kinky at the end 😂

[@hyde-3567]

rae tait i like it..

[@virgilhissingatyou]

Hyde - same 😏

[@chloefarlin6467]

rae tait I kinda like the kink

[@hunterkeiser6121]

Life's too short to pretend like you ain't into some kinky shit i always say

[@nikandrosnickmackeage378]

True

[@Alice-dh3ok]

2:28 I can hear all the goths screaming and Cringing. EMO IS NOT GOTH

[@AdelaTomankova]

Exactly i kind of screamed in my head, emo is an entire different thing 😭

[@drakothesnake5082]

Emo is a subculture of goth. they're completely different but when it comes down to it, emo is really a style of goth. This isn't to say that emos are goth but it is a fashion made to be a more emotional, softcore type of goth and emo actually started as a much more gothic look before changing and becoming what it is now

[@LuisFlores-tx4ee]

Drako The Snake emo culture is fucking dumb btw

[@TheBrownSnicker]

@@drakothesnake5082 EXACTLY like punk isn't goth either but no one's complaining about it?? the terms of all 3 come from different music genres but the point of the video is to show alternative / sometimes-called-goth culture and fashion throughout the years

[@kokokorokoko7916]

And punk is not goth

[@mooncrackers2887]

People. Depressed and goth are NOT the same thing. Goth is a style. Depression is a mental disorder

[@ilomilo5133]

THANK U SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THE TRUTH

[@purplemayhem]

One thing I am and one thing I try to be for some freakin reason. Can you guess which one? ...I'm sorry, I'm going now...

[@erinonfire70]

Moon Crackers but mental disorders werent mentioned anywhere?

[@WitheringZealot]

Gothic music often features music that caters to a persons depression so I’ll have to disagree with them being completely contrast

[@saraweekley602]

At first I read ‘depression is a style.’ Lol nope☠️

[@copdatchoppa]

I wouldve laughed my ass off if he did the cyber goth dance

[@Apparitions98]

Was rlly hoping he would :(

[@copdatchoppa]

@@Apparitions98 I was totally expecting it (':

[@alingold388]

What's the cyber goth dance?

[@MisterSolitude]

Atleast he can't catch covid

[@whitemothvisual2030]

@@alingold388 kzbin.info?search_query=cyber+goth+dance

[@montanarussell7976]

Punk, goth and emo are all different... Just sayin

[@dd.d249]

@Captain Onslaught goth comes from post-punk

[@battyrae1398]

theyre related tho so ill accept it

[@halguy5745]

Punk is about being a rebel. Emo is about being emotional. Goth is inspired by gothic ages in medieval times

[@geeralo]

it is historic point.....

[@ttboosted7634]

If they look the same they’re the Same

[@parremorgan2605]

1995 GOTH: a man never looked so manly and fierce in a leather skirt and make-up. in love.

[@bluBlaq33]

Parre morgan it was the sexist look to me

[@bethbeckettcrow2081]

True but even though I have loved each "trend" in goth as they have appeared my favorite is the Edwardian - so romantic.

[@___LC___]

Parre morgan, I think I just prefer it because I was goth at that time...and some time periods were incorrect.

[@drammon_dev]

it wasnt leather, it was latex

[@oshadidevi6206]

yes, of course

[@primegrind144]

I want Its Black Friday's husband to make a reaction video of this

[@funghoul2199]

Angelina Madden this should be a must someone make this happened 😍

[@paulagarcia3739]

Angelina Madden yass

[@BoundInHumanBones]

yes yes

[@Boredofthenoise]

Exactly what I was thinking!

[@BeAFantasticUnicorn]

Yes!

[@kelpiecyanide]

Seems like a lot of commenters missed the “fashion” part of the title and went straight for “Emo is not Goth.” This isn’t a discussion about music, but about fashion related to our subcultures. Punk and Cybergoth aren’t musically the same either, but you can clearly see how Punk influenced the fashion style. Emo fashion absolutely belongs in this video.

[@LiisaLadouceur]

You get it! Thanks.

[@georgiam.3957]

Exactly

[@anthonynguyen4088]

Cybergoth is absolutely a type of goth. Goth is an umbrella term. Emo and punk do not fall under it, even if some of them borrow elements from each-other. That's like saying e-boys are punk because they have those lock necklaces.

[@cadencepoetica8356]

@@anthonynguyen4088 um, punk is included at the beginning because goth grew out of punk. That's why the # says "know your history".

[@anthonynguyen4088]

@@cadencepoetica8356 I know my fucking history. Goth came from post punk, but has evolved into it's own separate genre. Big words from someone who obviously knows nothing about goth or punk LOL.

[@than0z977]

I bet all Goths are like "no your doing it wrong"

[@LiisaLadouceur]

I see you've met Goths. :-)

[@____________6257]

Yep

[@pelletpuffin]

You're**

[@Jsteiner1974]

Nah, it was pretty much a free scene when it came to creativity.

[@eddiekolterman6532]

That my friend is an elitist

[@richie2701]

is it just me or did the dude look quite hot in all those outfits O.O

[@princesspoptart8151]

Kelsey Simple Phan Otaku Not Kirkland II not gonna lie...the vampire and Edwardian look were pretty freaking hot to me.

[@Alexandra_0209]

+Princess Pop Tart RIGHT!

[@krisryker666]

Kelsey Simple Phan Otaku Not Kirkland I liked all but 1 i think

[@ful3812]

Kelsey Simple Phan Otaku Not Kirkland II Goth men are always the sexiest

[@amberyoung8888]

i really liked the emo one!

[@OleandyrTheGreatDragonGod]

I like that "Edwardian" style, though personally I think it looks more Victorian than Edwardian.

[@cameleonfleuri]

You are right!

[@tanyastefoglo1492]

Jango Yifftail either way it is absolutely stunning

[@redginger4224]

I never seen anyone yet in that style

[@tanyastefoglo1492]

Red Ginger i have

[@eliomarechal405]

I think the edwardian is based on the victorian style

[@noirnekonation]

Oh god, when I saw industrial, my heart melted. He looked so hot.

[@Jomaeleigh]

noirnekonation IKR

[@n.k.5783]

I had the same for both industrial and cyber.

[@jazzyzapata7804]

Ew no lol

[@flomrtnt3367]

noirnekonation Saame

[@picklesurprise6791]

My pussy was boiling!

[@yogawarriorgirl]

HAHAHAHAHAHA THE EMO PART HAHAHAHAHA This is REALLY not helping people who can't sort out the difference between emo and goth.

[@yogawarriorgirl]

I mean, no arguments from me, given my own take on goth-dom, but don't tell that to It's Black Friday and some others I know.

[@evewinters9311]

Agreed

[@smacvicar6412]

Emo was born from goth, why you gotta b mad

[@FletcherWolfe]

Suzanne MacVicar no it wasn’t. Emo is an offshoot of hardcore punk rock known as emotive hardcore and started in the 1980’s. What this video showed was second wave emo.

[@RemedieX]

Eh, they look like cousins

[@leavocado3926]

I'm just thinking about how Black Friday's husband is BASICALLY THE REVIVAL OF DEATH METAL.

[@Blurillaz23]

Thats what I was thinking lol

[@suhanapancham183]

Le Avocado ikr

[@TheRisingIcarus]

I thought it was him lol

[@emamarjanovic8631]

Le Avocado yeesss!

[@danissarodriguezn]

SAME omg

[@xia0shi]

At 2:30 when I saw the skeleton gloves, I was like "Oh FrAnKiE, iS tHaT yOu?"

[@haruhitoyamaka6686]

Yasssss♤

[@demolitionluvrz]

OH FRANKIE?

[@nihilisticbarbie]

@@demolitionluvrz Frank Iero wore that shit all the time lol

[@magorzatapodraza5559]

Oh yass

[@tungrocul5504]

BRUHHH SAME ! AHAHAH

[@pamroach5663]

2:21 all I can think about is the people that danced under the bridge 😂😂🤣😂

[@WitheringZealot]

Pam Roach that’s because you’re an ignorant fuck who’s only useful on her back

[@thequeenofsnakes5225]

Damn chill out

[@cosmicbarff]

Me too JAJAJAJAJJAJA

[@nicoalbarn]

@@WitheringZealot calm down dude, it's not that deep

[@chloet9263]

Same bro

[@pandorasangel2747]

Goth and Emo are like 2 sibling. Goth being the older brother and Emo being the younger one. And the father is Punk. Goth and Emo arnt the same thing but I can't deny that the two are related in a noticeable way

[@edwardsdistress5599]

They're not related at all. The only things they have in common is the fact that they're both from sub-genres of punk, and two different types for that matter, and the fact that they're both incredibly misunderstood by the mainstream, as cliche as it sounds. The style shown here is actually 'emo pop punk' and I believe My Chemical Romance inspired it to be darker looking, as did Blink-182, not any goth bands.

[@Laticia1990]

Going back further.... rock and roll, from rhythm and blues, from blues. @.@

[@cathemist]

My Chemical Romance is not emo. Actual emo bands are Sunny Day Real Estate and Jimmy Eat World.

[@lopezfromrtown7946]

Griffith did noting wrong

[@KougatAphid]

U know your actually right

[@ClaudioGabrielCunha]

New Romantic 💕 Trad Goth 🕳️ The Vampire 🧛 Industrial ☢️ Cyber Goth ☣️ Emo ☠️ Edwardian 🕵️ Death Rock Revival 🕸️

[@amaterasuomikami777]

Punk 🧷

[@PassionoLvrsis4Death]

That model tho! *swoon*

[@JesseDoucet1]

Tanks! :D

[@PassionoLvrsis4Death]

Jesse Doucet TeeHee!

[@PandaMonsterKitto]

PassionoLvrsis4Death I'd take him for a walk on that leash. 😍

[@PassionoLvrsis4Death]

meh moi Not partial to the emo luck. the rest of them....oh hell yes.

[@Meloncollie365]

looks like Jared Leto

[@thomasdarkraven9601]

Emo and goth are two different things

[@Ruizy026]

Thomas Darkraven nah

[@yamirreyes7549]

Look the same to me.

[@CLA88IFIED]

Same shit

[@DamianTroyer]

I agree with Thomas Darkraven. If you ask a goth about emo, and an emo about gotu they will say they are different. They want nothing to do with eachothsr

[@barryscott1089]

Nah mate

[@MelodyLOVESMegadeth]

Lol when he's showing off the Cyber Goth outfit, why is he moving like he's on a Select Player screen. Dying :') cool video though

[@LiisaLadouceur]

Ha. I want a video game of all these character types so I can select one. :)

[@bar1338]

Ich liebe Käsetag! omg 😂😂

[@saladasss2092]

lol now that you say it

[@ertz141]

Ich liebe Käsetag! Was ist Käsetag? Ein offizieller Feiertag nur für Käse?

[@MelodyLOVESMegadeth]

Haha neeeiiin... Ich wünsche! Es ist der Tag Edeka hat Käse zu 50% Rabatt, Donnerstag :P

[@phoenixvvv4685]

"2005 emo" Me: *gerard way is that yOU*

[@chloeprall9944]

I’m just scrolling through the comments looking for comments about Gerard way lol

[@scorpio99549]

Or Frank

[@jasperherron5267]

didnf gerard literally say his music isnt emo instead it is pop punk?

[@pequenoninoqllora7608]

mcr is not emo

[@pequenoninoqllora7608]

Idiot

[@MiquiztliDarkl]

Punk, goth, death metal and emo are different things...

[@prophetic5749]

The music genres are but the gothic style and music actually evolved from the punk scene in the 80s

[@snipergirl7116]

All these styles have the same origin so...

[@thatbitchnoemie]

@@snipergirl7116 Punk came from blues, goth came from post-punk, death metal came from rock and emo came from hardcore.... but whatever you say, my dude, lol.

[@corvus1768]

@@thatbitchnoemie Punk came from Rock/blues, goth came from Post-Punk which comes from Punk. Deathrock comes from the Post-Punk/Rock and emo comes from the Hardcore/Core which comes from the Punk.

[@corvus1768]

@@thatbitchnoemie Death Metal is a totally different thing btw.

[@morganrogue5305]

"40 Years of Men's Dark Alternative Fashions in Under Five Minutes"

[@alfiex6667]

This is mostly goth

[@gothgirlgraveyard3539]

That’s better

[@OrangeJuice-yo3hl]

much better

[@indigolash4650]

with the amount of complaints they're getting for adding emo, which technically branched off of goth😂 I just want to see everyone's reactions if they added pastel goth in it!

[@LiisaLadouceur]

Indigo Lash There's a pastel goth in our women's goth style video. Didn't feel it was as much of a trend amongst men.

[@indigolash4650]

Liisa Ladouceur I've seen that one! I enjoyed both the videos myself!

[@GameFreak982928]

Pastel Goth is still a form of Goth. Emo is it's own separate thing.

[@bonnieseiwell4240]

Emo was an offshoot of Hardcore Punk, started in Washington D.C. It's not a branch off Goth, which came from Post Punk in England. And we didn't like pastel goth being included in the other video either. "Pastel goth" is just a tumbler trend with no connection to Goth music. Not happy with cyber either, as that comes from Rave fashion and a video game and not goth. We don't like it when people spread incorrect information and give people false ideas about Goth (and other subcultures/music scenes). It can have a harmful effect on those scenes in the long run.

[@Batlord_Carcas]

Indigo Lash I'm with +Barbara Seiwell on this. Emo is nothing related to goth. the only relative they have is punk. Cyber is not Goth it's dark rave music.

[@redaacted]

the 1990's had it all figured out with vampires and industrials, i need that time of life back.

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

Yeah, just without the bullying and beating up because you look different. :/

[@rowansullivan8141]

It got kinky there at the end.

[@riaolav4703]

Taco Kitten plot twist

[@bliqra]

Oh no... HE IS HOT

[@brickeazy3931]

Beone thot

[@Maggotz4bra1nz]

Some random Guy lol

[@iusethisplatform]

Trap Quenn Is this a Spongebob reference though 👀😹

[@ViSCERA-ANIMATION]

NO THIS IS PATRICK

[@marchhoney6329]

I really like the fact that goth subculture isn't afraid of androgyny, like I dig that. There's a little femininity in these looks and that's punk as fuck

[@lintilion]

Maggie Black THAS REAL HIP HOP

[@marchhoney6329]

Tkat it's not pathetic to be feminine, if a guy wants to "emasculate" himself it's his choice. Unrelated, that was probably a reference to BDSM in the community lmao

[@JohnDoe-oy7qb]

I like more of a masculine look though, that's why I love psychobilly

[@daverusso3298]

WOW! Model: Hotter than a wood pizza oven. Styles: Wet dream!

[@bloodcrest91]

Dave Russo, thank you

[@KreeZafi]

I'm actually impressed, this is overall quite well made and the outfits are generally nice, plus the guy is rather pleasant to look at, haha! I did physically cringe at the emo one though, emo is its own thing (even if it's technically a cousin of goth since they both have their roots in punk) and if I'm not terribly misinformed the clothing style that accompanies the genre is called fashion core. That aside, I am rather happy with this video, and I honestly think it's better than the women's one.

[@KreeZafi]

I don't know how accurate the timeline is though, I have little to no knowledge about when different subgenres emerged (aside from trad, which is obviously the earliest one, hence the name) so I can't comment on whether or not the years are correct. I think these outfits are a lot better and more "realistic" than the women's though, those looked more costumey, plus they included too many things that weren't really... relevant. Like pin-up. I'm more pleased with this.

[@jessicahoschek1228]

KreeZafi I agree with you. the women's one mixed up Gothic Lolita with just being goth when it is under the lolita category lol

[@Batlord_Carcas]

KreeZafi The music of Goth and Deathrock go back to late 1970s/Early 1980s so in all factors the Trad and Deathrock styles still endure

[@literallyasuka2996]

KreeZafi What about pastel goth?

[@Batlord_Carcas]

Pastel Goth is just Pastel, there is no music attached to it, it's just so some fashion much like the old 'Perky Goth' moniker. It's all silly fashion packagings.

[@Jenocide_Doll]

why emo? thats like handing us a box of kittens with one puppy in there and saying they are all kittens.

[@SlLENCE]

but they look like a weird emo

[@Jenocide_Doll]

Who? What?

[@Jenocide_Doll]

Tkat (laughs for 20 minutes at you pointing a finger )

[@trapgoose1001]

Dreaded Jenocide_Doll emo was a "goth" subculture then became its own subculture and known for different reasons.

[@bonnieseiwell4240]

Emo was NOT a goth subculture. I'm not sure you even understand what a subculture is. Goth IS a subculture. It doesn't have subcultures of it's own. It is a subculture built around supporting a genre of music, also called Goth. It has subgenres like Goth rock, deathrock, darkwave, coldwave, etc., Emo was another genre of music which was a subgenre of punk & not of goth. What is most commonly called "emo" today is scene fashion, which isn't goth either.

[@BRNDMYR]

Generic weekend goth: Black Jeans, Boots and random Band-Shirt.

[@sugarnspike613]

Yes please, Everyday Goth needs representation too, not all of us wear club looks day in-day out

[@mortedoll7355]

Alchemist's Fire Ikr if I'm just going to school I don't feel like waking up two hours early to put all the fancy clothing and makeup on haha. Feel like many people are with us on this

[@DrakenWolfwood]

This is literally my every day style. I work for a college so I can't be as goth as others are, but yeah, black or dark grey jeans, my docs, and a shirt with either a band on it or some culty symbols. Today it looks like my depeche mode shirt with the violator rose on it

[@dawngrrrl]

Yes! Low-key goth = most of my wardrobe. Like rn I'm wearing a 1960s little black dress, black tights, black boots, black lace shawl, black St. Peter's cross necklace, smoky quartz necklace, septum ring, minimal natural makeup. I never wear heavy makeup or full-on club looks.

[@LiisaLadouceur]

Now that you mention that we could have made the last look and just called it "Forever."

[@localsoftboy3239]

Emo Is not goth what the hecc

[@terepi]

Betting that those skeleton gloves are from hot topic.

[@Zzzk23]

RandomlyMe I have a pair like those from Hot topic. My skin is super sensitive to the cold, so it's nice to have some stylistic ways to cover it up.

[@majesticwolf9816]

Yes and I have them

[@rachelv2650]

Straight outta frank ieros wardrobe

[@alfiex6667]

They are

[@michaelkarpinski1537]

THAT'S OFFENSIVE! I work there. . . But ya you're right.

[@rainbowrotcod]

Im just mad at how hot this is. I'd die for the industrial look.

[@celestetimberlake6094]

korqatt bro same

[@Ayveh]

meanwhile I want the Edwardian :o

[@lauraiaccino]

The amount of 20somethings complaining about being compared to emo style is hilarious. The whole point of fashion is that it branches and evolves whether you like where it goes or not.

[@HalleyHaywirez]

Laura Iaccino haha seriously, funniest part is these teens to 20 something year olds probably weren't even around for the original goth scene

[@HalleyHaywirez]

Shannon Dunn no one is coming at y'all for liking anything that wasn't around in your era, I clearly do because I'm here watching a history of goth fashion video, I honestly don't see what that has to do with anything that was said

[@stellamaris5414]

goth is a subculture not a fashion trend

[@FrankenFunder]

Goth is more than fashion. It's music first and foremost and you dress to identify with that. I like a lot of post punk/ goth rock but I also really like industrial and ebm. So I might do up my hair like siouxsie one day and have cyberlox in my hair the next. We aren't just rejecting a fashion style when we complain about emo we are complaining about a style of music and a tribe if you will that we don't wish to identify with. Think of goth clothing as tribal markings as opposed to just a fashion statement and then you'll be on the right lines. Saying that goth and emo are the same is just offensive.The gothic subculture is way more complex than you care to imagine haha

[@michaelkent2647]

Thoths Temple someone's butthurt.

[@DannyElfmanImpersonator]

I love the Einstürzende Neubauten tattoo they gave him for the industrial look! It’s a nice little touch that pays tribute to that era.

[@LiisaLadouceur]

Well spotted!

[@mattesquieu1068]

And the skinny puppy logo

[@sadetwizelve]

Edgar Allan Poe is a true goth.

[@titsarmageddon]

mary shelly too

[@titsarmageddon]

cant get any gothier than those two

[@Facehate666]

You mean Night Pain.

[@AngelA-mk5ty]

never more.

[@pierrexo]

gud 4 him

[@ccgdiana8152]

"emo is not a goth style" yeah we know we know! can we all just appreciate the view...i mean jesus! how can you not fall in love with himz😍😍😍

[@stickytoastcrunch5500]

CCGdiana deserves more likes haha

[@PikkuNoita]

CCGdiana I can't fall in love with him

[@sadgasm5931]

.......... i think that im gay. probably

[@anneallison645]

E L SKAM YES

[@elunicornioalteradodesinal4258]

E L then you should be proclaimed as an hero

gay are hot :)

[@sharpspike06]

E L welcome to the most exclusive club

[@amber4079]

E L ISAK

[@madisonmorrow4964]

At 1:10 I was like "Gerard is that you" because in Helena.... Yeah I'll just go

[@funghoul2199]

TØP Trash DUDE I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING!! 2:38 Frank Iero mcr revenge era, -tall edition-

[@friendlyghost7781]

Lmao Oml

[@sadierainbowitz1225]

Wannabe Rachel They are all Emo

[@whatsername2358]

TØP Trash YESSS

[@idealisticflamingo5800]

just because someone wears skeleton gloves doesn't mean their revenge era frank....

[@gerardwayseyelash]

The first one just looked like a very young gerard way. Lol.

[@estherbjerga523]

This guy is really hot and I'm super into that kilt.

[@ItsRainingHippos]

A more accurate title would have been '40 Years of Men's Alternative Style', as a fair portion of these aren't apart of goth, but are their own subculture of Alternative.

[@jasperherron5267]

well considering punk is like the papa or atleast the ancestor of all of these it makes sense as to why punk was included but i dont understand emo

[@beccaw74]

I felt the same with their other video on women's goth subculture. Some of what was there was indeed gothic subculture, but some of it was definitely more alternative style rather than specifically goth.

[@thatchonkyfonky3327]

I think the only one I found highly questionable was Emo, considering all the others do play a part in thr goth subculture. Industrial is apparantly really popular at goth clubs too sso i think it fits

[@nomad3737]

I have to agree..As an Emo myself I can clearly say that Emo is completely different from Goth

[@youareaspook5897]

@@jasperherron5267 yeh i reckon that style was more new age punk, generally the originial punk movement wore practical boots (no leather straps tying them together) because it was a different time, and violence was more of a thing (not as much surveillance) wouldve worn a brighter hairstyle (in america) and a bigger hairstyle (in britain), and less of the plaid, though it was present

[@AndreeCloud14]

I know a lot of people is mad about the emo but it is not that wrong, emo kind of came out of goth, just like goth came out of punk! So goth is like emo's daddy right? I liked it, I was waiting for this video for so long, and it turned out great!! P.S: the model is pretty cute 😍

[@KaiDecadence]

Yep Shannon got it. It's just Emo Pop Punk. Think bands like Good Chalotte.

[@KaiDecadence]

***** Yeah, I agree but I will say it was a little better then the female version.

[@mychemicaltokiohotel4918]

Andree Garden Emo is life

[@lorenabukovski314]

Punk did not come out of goth,punk was it's one thing,and acctually emo came out of punk....but this video is completly wrong,not historicly accurate,and just stupid,if the creator of this video does not know anything aboute goth(whitch she doesen't) she should just stop making them,they are offending people and they are wrong

[@rolanfitzgerald2580]

Andree Garden I dont like that punk is being called goth. There are really different. I love to study the fashion of a lot of alternative fashions and if you look they are so different

[@jimmyautrey9794]

Great video! I've always loved seeing people's goth styles, but I didn't really know the names of each style. This was very educational. It turns out my favorite styles are Edwardian and Vampire.

[@teriasxxs]

Everybody arguing in the comments and im just here like....... that boy is fine as hell

[@mortedoll7355]

teriasxxs Same holy shit I ain't mad hahah

[@friendlyghost7781]

Lmao that's me

[@ladylilith1895]

teriasxxs agreed 👌😍

[@daltonmolaschi7496]

It's not a phase mom!

[@KoltiraMemeweaver]

Wym? I'm 26 and still goth/punk/vkei. Goth is more than a phase.

[@flitter5400]

It can be a style even olderbl people can do

[@zachbohemian]

im 16 and im metal which is also a culture

[@_onlyluvli_]

People are so bored they create the most stupidest shit 😂😂

[@kidaria1333]

There are enough 40+ people who are still into it at least in europe.

[@maxielove7967]

I just realized my ex boyfriend was cyber goth

[@sname774]

lmao is it still relevant

[@normannegro4734]

that's why he's your ex, hahaha jk, those guys tought me good dancing skills

[@maxielove7967]

Was

[@Ayveh]

I never seen one in real life, however I did see a video on reddit of some of them dancing...didn't even know it was a thing until then...

[@gothgirlgraveyard3539]

You missing out

[@scandalousblue]

coming from a new romantic.... 1. new romantics are different to goths 2. that.... literally was hardly new romantic at all. if you wanna see new romantic google steve strange or adam ant, or go look at pictures of blitz clubgoers

[@nihilisticbarbie]

Kind of reminded me of Robert Smith tbh

[@noniakamai2458]

That’s what my mom said too! She was there so I believe her🤷🏽‍♀️

[@valentine4220]

i also thought tradgoth would moreso resemble new romantic.

[@ccgdiana8152]

ok, so i have a "thing" for emo guys, and yeah, thanks, i think my ovaries blew up...

[@cherryvelvets]

CCGdiana ikr

[@Mio-ul5wu]

CCGdiana me 2

[@amishalaksyana]

Same xDD

[@lillyanlubean4502]

CCGdiana Same

[@PeterGriffinANIMALCRACKERS]

no wonder it smells like the ocean here.

[@brooklynnedagnone533]

Man punk was THE SHIT I wished everyone still dresses that way XD

[@cottoneye2012]

Mark Cohens I wish everyone dressed as a Pakistani guy

[@tylerbrown2454]

Where I live almost everyone does

[@saderbug814]

tyler brown where do you live im moving there

[@elizabethmillard5444]

ew no

[@FirstNameLastName-fl4tn]

Cat_WasHere everything after punk was trash

[@VixenSimmerPlays]

He is so hot oh my god I CANT

[@АнтонВручинский-у4э]

VixenSimmer Щ

[@angeldevil9907]

😂

[@daveandreamurray8581]

VixenSimmer he is😍😍

[@raniamimikamamikarania964]

u r everywhere fuck😂😂😂 u also falling in love with someone 's brother 😆 u can t get him

[@spicyvro]

Too bad you can’t get him

[@marsiimel]

The model is pretty darn hot! My nonbeating heart skipped a beat for him ♥

[@z0d603]

I watched more than a dozen reaction videos of this one and there are 3 things I’d like to share about that: -Sure Punk broke the mold but Punk is still Punk today (with its own branching tree and all) but I don’t know if Punk shares the respect that Goth has towards it… some may have the same reaction to this that Goths has with the Emo style. (Goth is not punk! Followed with a stream of angry emojis) -Emo! It’s not Goth, as a strong majority agrees with, but the influence is undeniable. It’s literally like Goth got to see Punk again and Say: Hey Punk! Remember when we hooked up 20 something years ago? Turns out we had a child. Of course, both Punk and Goth would not recognize it as their child and it would feel rejected and pretty misunderstood… Emo. -So many reactions about the Trad Goth’s bandanna and boots when, for me, my first reaction was: Oh! Look! It’s Al Jourgensen. Common accessories among the Trad Goths? Maybe not. But, I mean, it’s Al, right? Anyways. I enjoyed it very much. Have a good day.

[@z0d603]

I still think Emo has its place here, on a fashion standpoint. I would even be so bold to suggest that it's probably the most versatile style in the lot. Let's say you dress as an Emo and crash any other styles's party. On every occasion you'd be off, yes, but not as off as other pairings might. Like a Cyber Goth at a Vamp's party or an Edwardian at a Punk concert. That being said, maybe I know nothing, maybe I'm utterly wrong, but I will keep wearing what I like and listening to whatever pleases my eardrums. It's just fashion.

[@z0d603]

Maybe "40 years of Men's Alternative Fashion" would indeed be a better title, but so much less fun! (I mean, I never watched Reaction Videos except for this one. Around 20! So fun!) Emo has nothing to do with Goth? Maybe. I will sure never argue over the fact that, music-wise, it's, as you say taking it back to the beginning. Punk and Rock, sure! And is hasn't the same feel. Not. One. Bit. Agreed. As for the themes goes... well I'm sure a cowboy can feel estranged too. All I'm saying is: There's a taint. An obvious one. Visually. Well! History will tell. But my guess is that, 40 years from now, even in fashion, many people will still associate the two. And it will still piss people off =)

[@z0d603]

Sponsered by Countrylife Butter

[@meralmaray2795]

Al Jourgensen as the Trad Goth is the equal to Nina Hagen as the Deathrocker in the Women's one: very little people recongized them, and they would complain about his bandana or her hairdo not being a thing when it was based on an actual artist.

[@z0d603]

Saw Nina Hagen during Universal Ballroom tour. Still remember her cover of Rape Me quite well.

[@archive4389]

Hey tik tok girls, THIS IS NOT AN EBOY

[@momokat4082]

Those green eyes will be the death of me, sweet jesus

[@jooniebug480]

I won't let you be the death of me. I refuse to let you bring me down. I wont let you make me out to be the one who's in the wrong. I know i've lost my mind before. But now im back. And im better than ever!

[@Xhaosarts]

Emo Llama nice....asking alexandria

[@jooniebug480]

Chaos Nightmare you are awesome for recognizing it :)

[@BookOfFaustus]

Industrial is my favorite on this model. Love that hair

[@samuka2621]

2019: e-boy

[@thatdudethecommenter1012]

No,fuckboi from tiktok with no friends.

[@tanyastefoglo1492]

tio samuka no

[@tanyastefoglo1492]

tio samuka e-kids are a disgrace to the subcultures

[@voidtapwater4676]

Shut up Tanya I absolutely agree 💀

[@alfyc6970]

E-boy isn’t goth

[@EatPlasticSurgery1]

I know it's been a decade but I still feel like if you put black eyeliner and a lip ring on any guy he's suddenly 10x more attractive to me

its true same here ahaha

[@vic_cresss]

0:41 I swear this is the melody to Pen Pinapple Apple Pen 😂😂 I have a peeen, I have an applee, UH apple peeeen 😂

[@justabanana6464]

Omfg 😂😭

[@isamel9353]

Hahaha

[@Tracker-eg4ve]

I was thinking that too

[@perpetua111vv]

LMAO

[@claemayor1650]

Hes to dangerous to beleft alive he sees through the prn pinnaple veil

[@NostalgiCrazy]

I'm not Goth (at least not fashion wise lol) but I've always swooned for goth guys like him 😍

[@kale-bu8mn]

Sebizzar me too but a little more on the emo side :p

[@arielm8396]

Sebizzar right!!!

[@cableman7452]

cancer

[@annemariestaudenmann945]

Hottttttt!

[@GamerSkinny]

Why??? he looked like a girl in every outfit

[@chloeprall9944]

I’m actually just scrolling through the comments looking for ones that talk about Gerard way 😂🤷🏼‍♀️

[@falloutbananas5181]

I love the video but what the fuck was his headbanging?!

[@LiisaLadouceur]

Thanks. I do believe we were channelling a bit too much "misguided teen rivethead goes to club for first time" there. Oops!

[@illasDK]

OMG - his f**king eyes!! 😍 They are “killing me softly”

[@x_ss3032]

u reminded me of killing.stalking

[@margheritaascolano176]

I’m in love with this guy... ! ☺️☺️☺️

[@jhazuu3809]

This is so late but Emos are not Goths

[@hehehe1238]

That's what I was saying

[@sugarandspiceguitar8397]

We all know they did this to piss us off lol

[@gachariver1238]

Yes

[@emvuosku4219]

@Wydozv ExYeest all dance styles originate from ballet and traditional folk dancers. That doesn't mean hip hop and krumping should be categorized the same.

[@charlotte.thanatos]

@Wydozv ExYeest The only similarity between goth and emo in fashion is that they use black, I really don't see much more similarities other than that