400 to 500 Stroker Build: Preparing for the Dyno

[@edsmachine93]

Looking great Joe. Thanks for the mention.👍 Lets get ready to "Dyno"said in the voice of Michael Buffer!! 😎 Thanks for sharing! 👍🇺🇸👍 580hp and 598lbs.

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks Ed. I appreciate the help

[@SeanJoseph-s2s]

Good stuff....500 plus HP....550 on torq....thanks Joe.....🔧🔧👍

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks! We'll get it there!

[@Lars615]

JMJ!😎💪🏻👊 have a great weekend buddy!

[@JustMoparJoe]

You too, brother! It’s going to be a busy one!

[@donaldhalls2189]

Great job mate ,coming along great, should get you 6 to 700 hp,thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks Donald! Same to you!

[@gulfy09]

Can't wait

[@JustMoparJoe]

Yes sir!

[@TimothyArnott-m7z]

Hey Joe, Tim here, I still like the Gatermans......it SAVED my ass on a Ford FE bulid.....Gaterman!!!....quality lifter!!

[@JustMoparJoe]

Yes sir!

[@edsmachine93]

@@TimothyArnott-m7z I agree Tim with you about the Gaterman Lifters. That's what I prefer to use when I can get them. 👍🇺🇸👍

[@mikestackhouse9001]

515 hp and 525 torque @5800 rpm Joe. Its a beauty! 😍

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks Mike!

[@firedawg423]

Super clean!!

[@JustMoparJoe]

I really would love to drive it

[@TsGoodTimesGarage]

Good stuff as always! Thinking 505hp/550tq. Looking forward to dyno day!

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks T!

[@bradsrestorations1085]

All right Brother Joe! 1st thing they are going to be so close, the difference won't be worth mentioning. 2nd, you're taking personal time on the barbell. Looking good!

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks brother Brad! Getting close

[@rodneybyrd9516]

Ideal cranking PSI for street/strip use with aluminum heads!!

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks Rodney. You’re 3/3 now

[@braswilliams6301]

I think they made the seal backwards, Mopar Joe's the BOMB..

[@JustMoparJoe]

@@braswilliams6301 haha! The dyno will tell the tale!

[@raysimon1368]

I will say 580 torque 560 horsepower what ever it comes out with I'm sure it will be fun on the street as always nice job Joe

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks Ray! Dyno was yesterday and it did the job!

[@DesertRatFabrication]

First of all Joe it takes good mad today he put a seal on backwards even if it was on video, and who doesn’t like a little noisy valve train, maybe that’s just me, I’ll be looking forward to dyno day, ( it’s already happened I’m pretty sure, but I’ll watch tomorrow, Merry Christmas my friend, catch you soon 😀😀

[@JustMoparJoe]

@@DesertRatFabrication thanks brother! Dyno day was a good one!

[@maxfastest]

Lookin good.

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks brother

[@jeffdavis5704]

Heck, I don't know. Sure it will be awesome

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks Jeff!

[@Homegrown4406]

550 HP 575 torque Joe !

[@apocolypse11]

Good year for mopar fans Chaplin with his 4x4 hellcat,cleetus 5k hp hemi build, an gen 2 garage with there hurricane swap Dakota killing the quarter mile. While joe fixes oil leaks instead of 5seconds.

[@JustMoparJoe]

Yeah, there is a lot of great Mopar stuff going on right now. Glad I’m building my own and using old school Mopar blocks the way it was intended

[@terrymeyer9895]

Thanks for going thru the valve train and running that compression test. It indicates a good build and shows Great attention to the little things that can be big things if not gone thru. HP/Torque #'s? 500/550

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks brother, we'll find out soon!

[@MikeOCOnnor-jn4ic]

Hello Joe. RPM heads perform well. They flow around 270 to 280 CMF at .60 lift. Those heads are good for up to 650 hp ported with the right set-up. I would guess the Torq will be good with the longer stroke. 540 to 580 on torq or more. I'll say 565 on torq. HP 560. I could look up the math but my guess will due.

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks for the prediction! Let's see what the dyno says. I’m bet you’re within 5!

[@steveburlingame1935]

545hp 593 trq i cant wait to see on the dyno also would love to the car its going in or truck

[@JustMoparJoe]

We'll see what she does! Knowing Dave, it may end up in anything!

[@joecurmaci5880]

Hello Mopar Joe

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks for checking in!

[@autonomous_collective]

If you got that quench right, that Dodge 400/499 Stroker can make on Dyno around 595 HP and 678 Torque! 🏁🏁 I really need to see the head chambers, I would have made LSA 106, Head Gasket ideal would have been .020 to .028 at the most, and how much advance timing did you put? 🏁 SHELL 93 Octane? Driven GP1 20w-50 for lifter noise gone.

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks brother. I’m very familiar with quench, but we had to sacrifice some for this one. He bought the stroker kit a while back and told me to make it pump gas friendly. I wanted to air on the cautious side, and ended up with 10.9/1 static. I know he wants to run nitrous, but I’m not sure he’s running higher octane for that. The LSA is happier with his nitrous here, and will be more street friendly. Definitely room to improve on camshaft and cylinder heads in the future.

[@rickkelsch2040]

try Royal Purple HSP 20W-50 motor oil for the lifter noise. Adjust the preload to .02-.03 off the floor

[@JustMoparJoe]

I’m going to play with it some more before dyno day.

[@pockets5628]

How much preload do you have on the morel hyd roller lifters? They need .050” preload which is 1 turn on a 7/16 adjuster. And also you need an oil with a centistoke rating of 15 or less at 100c. That means no 20w50. I run one of the AED 950HO Modified carbs. Works great. Made 630hp 605trq on my 228/238@.050” cammed 467. I did have to put transfer slot restrictors in the main body.

[@JustMoparJoe]

I'm glad you shared your experience with the carb. I went with 1/2 turn of preload and debated trying more. Powell just did a video saying to do the minimum amount possible on hydraulic rollers, but I was going to reset them at 3/4. The oil currently is AMS oil 30 weight break in oil. Dave loves the AMS oil

[@pockets5628]

@@JustMoparJoeMorel lifters need more preload than that. With less, they will be noisy. Go another 1/2 turn. You mean Amsoil? 30w break in oil is 11.4 centistoke.

[@thomasward4505]

I adjusted my rocker arms I believe one and a quarter turns with Hughes rockers which I don't think are all that great. Because any less than that and they were extremely noisy, haven't had any problems with 40 dragstrip runs and some Street time

[@JustMoparJoe]

@@thomasward4505 I’m experimenting with this one now. That seems extreme, but you can’t argue with results.

[@johnelliott7375]

Everything that you touch turns out to be ," DynOmite"! To bad I don't hear any return comments anymore 😔. Must be getting to big to get to read all of them anymore. I hope you have a great weekend and enjoy your day today. Icecube weather ☁️🌡️ in the Northeast today. Hopefully you are ready for Christmas JMJ! As always we enjoy your time and work on these videos! Thanks again and have a wonderful day today.

[@JustMoparJoe]

Appreciate the support and the compliments! It’s a busy time of year. Merry Christmas 🎄

[@UnfinishedProjectDartSport]

Strawberries and Cream!!

[@moparedtn]

Given my recent FUBAR on the movie trivia, Joe - I'd take my guess and reverse it: 510hp 490tq. :-) Where's that Seeman fella anyways? - Ed on the Ridge

[@JustMoparJoe]

Haha! You’ll see him in todays road runner video

[@anthonynapier4668]

Dyno time 😀👍👍👍👍

[@JustMoparJoe]

Should be a fun day!

[@Greg383BB]

510Hp 530 tq …….My engine builder Just Dyno my 435 bigger cam block machined head work was done high raise single plane 850 carb pistons .005 in the hole 549 hp 570 Tq used a 383 block I commented to you about a year and a half ago going I was gonna build that. Just thought I’d fill you in great video always enjoy.

[@JustMoparJoe]

I remember that! I know there’s power in the heads. Let’s see what these will do

[@kendallshort1139]

530 HP 598 fpt

[@JustMoparJoe]

I’d bet that torque is close!

[@rayowens4355]

565 hp and 610 tq. I used the SWAG method😊

[@JustMoparJoe]

We'll see what we can do! I’d bet you’re closed!

[@rickseeman5679]

You put the rear main seal in backwards and it doesn’t leak? That’s the good stuff.

[@JustMoparJoe]

It’s a good quality seal and it’s got the proper mating surface.

[@jimdrechsel3611]

Looks great. How long did you run your engine to break in the rings? What’s your take on preparing the engine for breaking in the engine before dyno testing with a load? Thanks for the mopar stuff!

[@JustMoparJoe]

@@jimdrechsel3611 thanks Jim. I usually do around 20 minutes. I can’t guarantee a complete break in until there’s a load, but with Rick’s profilometer with honing, it’s supposed to break in very quickly. I’m mostly checking for leaks and listening to the what I can. Anything I can catch before spending $900 to dyno is a bonus!

[@jimdrechsel3611]

@ Ouch that’s expensive. Are there dyno tests with motors installed? If so will you still have air fuel ratio readings? If during a compression test, you have some leak down in a fairly new engine Is it possible your rings haven’t broken in yet?

[@JustMoparJoe]

@ I’ve thought about dyno tuning my barracuda. Typically guys want to know the numbers at the crank. It’s possible to have a little leak down before the actual break in is completes I just did a cranking compression to compare results. It’ll show ring seal and valve seal, also what octane fuel can be used with the engine. We are going with 91-93 for sure

[@minnesotatomcat]

517 horse/ 525tq, fun power range 👍

[@JustMoparJoe]

Oh man! We gotta beat that

[@toddmillican1926]

Joe, could you do me a favor. I'm building a 400 /512 stroker. Going in 64 sport fury. Interested in carb height on that manifold. I have an old school offy 360 dual plane, but Dave's single plane might be better. Just want to see difference in heights. Maybe a ball park from inside top edge of head to top of carb.Thanks, and Merry Christmas...Todd in Idaho

[@JustMoparJoe]

I’ll try to get that for you! Can you shoot me an email?

[@Anthony-nw5zv]

But I have a question, is there any way of sliding that seal over the rear flange as a hole uncut piece? Or do I order a few and trash them ALL bcuz I think I'll get lucky 😅

[@JustMoparJoe]

It’s a super simple one! Just one cut!

[@Anthony-nw5zv]

No worries on that rear main 🦭. Might not ever leak.

[@JustMoparJoe]

That’s my guess! Good seal and good material

[@chapmanracing1206]

Why not send the camshaft out to be reground?

[@JustMoparJoe]

@@chapmanracing1206 we chose this camshaft for this engine. I think you’ll like the dyno results.

[@chapmanracing1206]

I don't know how that got here. I posted that comment on another guys video about a 5.9 magnum. Im sure this will be a good setup.

[@JustMoparJoe]

@ all good. In theory, this can could get send out and reground and be more optimized for the combo. But I think we are dang close for a street car

[@ws2664]

Your cam card says to use stock ratio rocker arms, you said they were 1.6 ratio so your lift is higher then what the cam card said, is that right?

[@JustMoparJoe]

Yes sir. Worked well in the past and gets it happier for the headflow specs

[@ws2664]

@@JustMoparJoe I hope to see it run on the dyno I'm curious to see what it will do. I have the 512 kit in my 73 challenger with only a 800 cfm Edelbrock and a slightly lower lift cam with 1.5 rockers, if these numbers turn out good then I might swap out the rockers and carb. Good luck with this.

[@dwade277]

575hp 580fpt @630k

[@UnfinishedProjectDartSport]

585/629

[@JustMoparJoe]

🎂

[@Grandadsjunk]

509hp 543fp even 1 hp per cube is a very strong engine

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks Grand!

[@Anthony-nw5zv]

660 HP 675 Torque

[@JustMoparJoe]

That’d be great!

[@Anthony-nw5zv]

@JustMoparJoe I'm more than likely dreaming right 😂

[@joecurmaci5880]

I'll bet you it's 650 horse an unbelievable torque

[@JustMoparJoe]

We will see what she can do! The power is in the heads and combo. We will see what they say!

[@jasonlott9650]

540hp 5,700rpm, 580 lb/ft 4,400 rpm.

[@2264ish]

583hp 602torq

[@Moparmaga-1]

HP 620 at 5700 Tq 645 at 4600

[@JustMoparJoe]

I'm hoping for something close to that! It’s definitely been done with better heads.

[@Moparmaga-1]

@JustMoparJoe I think the cubic inch will help as long as it can make the rpm it should do it. But if it doesn't it's an easy fix, bigger ports and more cam

[@JustMoparJoe]

@ yes sir. He should have a solid bottom end!

[@RZK1966]

515hp 570fpt

[@thomasward4505]

How about 592 horsepower and 596 ft lb

[@JustMoparJoe]

I think you’re very close! It’s gotta beat the 440 and my 406. Hopefully 😆

[@dana2758]

570 HP. 610 trq

[@JustMoparJoe]

That’d be 👍

[@tonylarimore1553]

535hp 560 tq

[@JustMoparJoe]

Gotta beat that! Thanks brother

[@smilsmff]

8.62 dynamic compression ratio , says 180 PSI as per Wally Calculator. I predict 555 Horsepower

[@JustMoparJoe]

I’d like to see that, and maybe a shade more. Anything over 500 is gonna scare him to death! 😆

[@smilsmff]

@@JustMoparJoe Wallace racing Calculators , i am glad the port work paid off for your dyno test; Oh he can get programmable ignition retard lol take some out!

[@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm]

i used to make - ROLLER ROCKERS = and what you have = is not correct = anyone can see that the valve tip is off centre = it will run = but it aint CORRECT ! you need more schooling .

[@JustMoparJoe]

@@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm try this

[@JustMoparJoe]

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[@blakesmusclecar]

With those heads I say 545 horsepower and 560 torque.

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks buddy! It’s almost DDay

[@darrelphillips5145]

530hp 540Tq

[@Roosters_Restos]

The only reason those edelbrock heads are going to perform well is what you did to them. Personally they robbed power from my 65 dodge a990 drag car so went indy and man what a difference. Same 1050 trash can dominator too. I need to talk to you about the d100 motor. I need to pick your brain.

[@JustMoparJoe]

Thanks Rooster. These heads are much better than most (home) ported cast iron heads. The dyno won’t lie.

[@Roosters_Restos]

@JustMoparJoe dyno won't lie less you make it like with correction factors lol guys that raced sleds with 2 strokes used to play games with that. But your right and you did nice port work so I think that will help greatly. Guess will see. Rear seal is a bit concerning to me too.

[@tonyscherer8281]

558hp 610tr

[@davewilson1335]

560hp/ 540 tq

[@JustMoparJoe]

I’m hoping for more on torque. Thanks Dave!

[@cbobmonster]

560-565

[@jbqc1548]

565hp and 590lbs torque..

[@JustMoparJoe]

We'll see what we can do! I’d like that

[@gertv6777]

600 horse 650 torque

[@JustMoparJoe]

That would be perfect

[@trojan440]

540 hp. 625 torque.

[@Moparmaga-1]

I won't run hydraulic nothing.

[@JustMoparJoe]

Yea I liked the solid rollers on my hydraulic cam. It sure revved well

[@terryboothe2309]

I’m not really experienced enough to guess but I’m gonna say plenty of HP and an excessive amount of torque .

[@JustMoparJoe]

It should spin tires! Thanks Terry! It’s engine season

[@terryboothe2309]

@@JustMoparJoeYes it is . Truck show season soon

[@johnelliott7375]

Thanks for sharing this with me again, do you have a good email address that I can send you some pictures of Mopar parts and a 65 Barracuda that I need your opinion on please! Thanks again for everything you do for the community on here!

[@JustMoparJoe]

Yes sir. It’s [e-mail]