409: Lessons from Phil’s Viral Video on Racism

[@jenv6071]

I'm not in your demographic. If I'm being truthful, I wouldn't have watched the viral video if I'd known your background beforehand. What a mistake that would have been! It was spot on, and I like that you included the sources at the end. Also...I am willing to admit that I've maybe been unfair in painting all Christians with the same political brush. You poked at my preconceptions which is a good thing. Thank you.

[@danrazzaia3152]

Poking at preconceptions needs to happen more in our world. Thanks for being open to the idea that all Christians aren't THOSE people, per say.

[@gben82]

You had preconceived notions that Christians were what? Not supporting of BLM enough? Oddly enough, the Christians I know have been the most vocal about this, and the most supporting of BLM, and the fact that whites have to own up to the original sin of slavery and racism.

[@jenv6071]

@@gben82 Yes, those were my preconceptions because that's been my experience. The Christians I've known have run the gamut from deafening silence to angry push back against any discussion of racism, bias or white privilege. I know of maybe two Christians supportive of the BLM movement. It's great hearing that the Christians you know aren't like that.

[@bamafan73191]

@@jenv6071 1000% agree, If I didn't have faith I would have tried to distance myself as much as I could from all Christians because Ive seen nothing but hate spewing from them. Phil gives me hope that there are those out there who share my faith and are willing to fight for our minority brothers and sisters.

[@OldLCTKE]

Love this comment.

[@martinduffy5826]

Dude, both parts are masterful. Thank you. As an African American they both say everything I don't feel like trying to explain to people. Again, thanks.

[@pitpride1220]

Agreed,he was impeccable with the data. I just send the video to friends that are not black now. I'm tired of debating. The deflections and "whataboutisms" are unhelpful. Often serving as an unproductive detour or a premature endpoint for the conversation.

[@jkjenkins7205]

Yes!

[@lukemacri6557]

Phil, I'm of the generation raised with VeggieTales, and just discovering that you're still sending your voice out there- I'm looking forward to working through your backlog. On the topic of your making things for adults- just like I needed your voice when I was a kid, my generation could really use your voice again, now that we've grown up and many of us feel an increasing separation from the Christian body we grew up with.

[@BrandonGraham]

Hey, I'm new around here because of the video. There are two additional reasons why I think it was so popular. As a Christian, I liked the video because a lot of popular content from Christian outlets either stay away from issues like this, or are extremely politically conservative. It was refreshing to see something go viral from a dude who could pass as a Fox News anchor, but seems to favor facts and true compassion. The other thing is that I see agnostic/atheist friends who love to make fun of religion, independently sharing the video without making any comments about the name of your channel. Like it or not, if you had taken a break to talk about God in the video, that video would not have been shared by most of them. Instead, you are leading by example. People can get inspired and dig deeper into your channel and find content they want/need. Until then, you are putting content out there that is making the world a better place.

[@donalddodson7365]

Great point, Brandon! Totally agree. Jesus did not hold a Torah Study every time He dined with sinners, tax collectors, atheists, etc. He lived the Good News He was teaching and went to the Cross to secure for all humankind. "God talk" is cheap and hollow. Leading, inspiring, explaining, giving your answer to "their" questions is powerful.

[@TheWanda0401]

I’m crying because I have never seen anyone address what I have seen in my 54 years of life. I’m so grateful for this conversation. God is so good and His light will shine out of the darkness. 🙏🏾😊

[@justind9638]

Systematic racism is a lie to keep minorities from seeing the light and realizing nobody is against u but your self. Do nothing Democrats come out before an election talking about race to make black people feel like they're on there side and then you don't see no change until it's time to vote again.

[@tracychurchill3589]

As I listen to y'all discuss why Phil's racism video has been successful, thought I'd throw in my 2 cents on why I found it useful and compelling... These come from a context of me started on an anti-racism journey, surrounded by rural Christians who are primarily concerned about respect for cops and the horrors of rioting. In trying to have courteous but constructive conversations about race, the biggest challenge I've discovered is the lack of a shared historical foundation; beyond the civil war and MLK, there is minimal knowledge or intentional thought about anything in between (and any info I offer can seem like excuses or "fake news" 🙄). 1. This video potentially fills that really important knowledge gap (even tho it's by no means exhaustive). It demonstrates that racism didn't just evaporate - it evolved. And the systems we rely on today didn't appear from thin air - they came from real, flawed people (and therefore may be inherently intertwined with racist thought/intention). It gives me something to build on. 2. Phil already had a platform, and being a recognized evangelical pastor generally makes him a more trusted source to this community. Christian kind of hit on this talking about people already knowing they like/approve of things Phil's produced, like veggie tales. 3. Although 17 minutes is somewhat long in the KZbin world, it's significantly shorter than documentaries or books. I can ask someone to watch this without them feeling overburdened . (I think we all SHOULD invest in education and activism around issues of race, but first people have to see and BELIEVE that there are real problems.) 4. Christian also talked about the vid NOT being too harsh/snarky, which is right on the nose. It doesn't have any "red flags" that trigger a sceptical audience to throw out the baby with the bathwater (like " institutional racism" or "white privilege"...) Phil SHOWED those things but didn't name them with loaded terms. This is super important and surprisingly unique; there are other creators who are minimally controversial but their content often builds on itself, requiring a bigger commitment to consume OR making any individual part prone to be easily dismissed. 5. There wasn't an excess of commentary/value judgment made about the information presented. I could send it to anyone without worrying if they'd perceive an "agenda". (Other than to care 😊, which seems pretty benign.) All this to say that I really appreciate all the content y'all are sharing. Please know that there lots of regular folks (and pastor-folk) out in the world trying to have meaningful conversations about racial justice within our communities, but that easily accessible resources from "big names" can be REALLY helpful (doodles, quotes, videos, etc.)! Thanks so much for using your voices and skills to advance God's kingdom.

[@tracychurchill3589]

@@RaphPatch thanks for the positive encouragement - it is indeed good to know we're not alone. ☺️ May the Holy Spirit grant us all courage and conviction as we work for God's Kingdom!

[@bradencarter3867]

Thank you all SO MUCH for being the voice of reason!!! I can not understand why any Christian is not for supporting our Black brothers & sisters. Keep on sharing truth.

[@onethiawhite1169]

I'm African American. I came across your videos on race and evangelical Christians after talking to the Lord about white Evangelical Christians and the hurt and distrust I felt in the era of Trump. I poured my heart out to him and was questioning Christianity in America. After watching your videos on race I came away with hope, and I said out loud, Phil is the Mr. Rogers of today. God used your videos to help me with my heart with white evangelicals. The message about helping locally and building strong families was a mandate He had already put on my heart. Thank you for the courage you and your team have shown in pointing out what I know as a black American that systematic racism exists.

[@erickah5947]

I hope you cross paths with some of the kind white, people out there. I’m sorry your experiences have not been good.

[@chelle849]

I want to be Mr. Rogers but it comes out snarky is probably the best description I've ever heard of Phil. I appreciate your perspectives and that you actually use your podcast to discuss hard/difficult topics that most Christian media tries to ignore.

[@cukewinx2273]

I love how they talk about things. They talk about issues and other things that could have neggitive consequences but they address it in a Christian and respectful way. I have mad respect for these guys. God bless yall

[@silentprophet777]

New subscriber, found your channel from the Racism video. I just want to say that I'm one of the now adults who grew up with your work on veggietales. Like my earliest and foundational lessons about faith (like when I was 2 or 3, lol) come from your work. So when I saw a recommendation "Creator of Veggietales explains systemic racism" it immediately caught my attention. And I'm not a unique case, there is an entire generation of people who have your work buried deep within their formative knowledge that even as 20-something adults, when you have something to say that's relevant, educational, and poignant, we'll stop what we're doing and listen.

[@geekyvalkyrie]

Please don't forget that some of the kiddos who met you as a tomato are now old enough to understand and appreciate your adult-targeted content. You earned their trust and imparted important lessons when they were five years old. At 23, they may be especially receptive to your message, and crucially, more willing and able to share it and embody it among their community.

[@joshuademi1364]

I really appreciated Christian Taylor’s point about your potential impact the adults who grew up watching Veggietales. Watching viral video was a similar experience to the day I realized that Fred Rogers really was that kind. We are used to looking up to people as children and then growing up and realizing that they are not all we thought they were. For adults whose faith has grown up with us, seeing the person who was so instrumental in introducing us Biblical morality express such a nuanced take on Biblical morality is a meaningful experience, particularly in an age when nuance is so often lost.

[@Laura-tn1qy]

The "Race in America" video is great. The content is very informative and the multimedia format enhances learning. Well-designed infographics are also great for effective communication, especially for people who prefer shorter or print materials.

[@rodneyaustin3999]

Much information was left out, check out Thomas Sowell for the complete information.

[@luxlightart4383]

I agree, Phil you need to continue to be a voice of reason for evangelicals. Thank you for giving hope to those who are baffled at what is "preached" in evangelical circles.

[@faa8882]

I shared Phil's video in our Church's women's whatsapp group and was shut down by two elderly white women. This is London 2020. Some other women have commented in support but honestly I'm at a loss that there're Christians who shut down the experiences of Black people.

[@isesise2658]

It dont matter to them, and I could be wrong, but I think it's because of 2 things: 1. One thing I am noticing about those of us in the west, no matter our race, is people in the west seem to NEED someone to look down upon (to make themselves feel better I guess), and to hinder that ability to look down on someone makes them feel like you are taking something from them (all subconscious). Of course this observation could be off in context to your experience sharing that vid, but why would white older Christian women's (in London) immediate reaction to a vid about American issues be negative or distasteful? 2. I think it's because of a contempt for black lives - We have to be the blame for our problems to make those who hate us dismiss "guilt." And I'm not saying black ppl shouldnt take responsibility for their lives. I been through some things that I can link back to everything Phil broke down in that vid, but I grind and dont make excuses, and I have 2 businesses; both in their infancy, but both growing, so there is no victim mentality here.

[@jeffreyschaefer9424]

Loving Skye and Christian’s encouragement to Phil to use this medium for his messaging and I couldn’t agree more. Listen to them, Phil! You and Skye could become like the Bible Project regarding sociopolitical engagement for Christians... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@dwhitaker86]

Agreed

[@SherriSLC]

I found your channel via the racism video and I'm grateful. Thank you for your work!

[@truthseeker8970]

Great video on race in America. I love you guys commitment to the facts and data.

[@lbamusic]

I just found out about the 2 videos you posted last year on Race in America, and I just finished watching both, along with the 3 or 4, so-called rebuttals to your videos. I commend you on making them, getting as many factual stats as possible, and delivering in a clear, sincere, Godly manner. All I can say is, God knows your heart and will bless you for 'caring' in the manner Jesus said we should. Rev. 20:11-15 clearly speaks of those whose names are written in the book of Life and those who are not. As a fellow Born-Again Believer, I will see you in Heaven and shake your hand for the good you tried to do down here, in spite of the anti-CRT wokeness that has infected many of those who also claim to be Christians. Matt. 7:21 - 23 gives the response of Jesus to these unwokes..

[@azblakemore]

Thank you for your Holy Post - Race in America video!

[@theartfultheologian]

Need more black people involved in your productions. I am available.

[@dove784]

I feel like I'm in a staff meeting 🤣 but Id love to be in your staff meetings!

[@Heaven4BounduNotes]

When I started watching your videos, the last person I thought could give a clear view of racism would be a white man. Also even having an understanding, to be willing to articulate it clearly and without apologies of guilt, etc. probably not! You didn't hit everything (as I see), but you certainly articulated the issues beyond just the experience. Education moved from self-development to a way to get the money, a very longtime ago. So, way too many things are explained in only one dimension money/profit. Brain exercise helps express the experience without offense and with a movie-like clarity conveyed to the listener. Well done, sir. I felt that many will be able to see and be willing to make changes within their spiritual hope to become a healthier Christian, citizen and neighbor. We have the opportunity to do better with understanding.

[@jmanwarren]

I can think of an equivilant to BLM. Disney. The Disney corporation came out as supporting things that are anti to conservative Christian values, but I cannot even tell you how many Christians I know, including myself, who have gone to the theme parks, purchased their movies and toys for my children and love what they do as far as family entertainment. Do I agree with everything the Disney Corporation supports? no. But do they have some great things for families? yes. I do not agree with everything the Black Lives Matter Organization supports (abortion for example). I do however very much agree with their support for black lives and their movement for justice, equality, and reform.

[@azblakemore]

PREACH Julie!

[@ng658622]

On what to learn from this, listen to what she is saying. I grew up on VeggieTales and now watch Whats In the Bible? with my kids. When I share this video I say, "Watch this video from the creator of VeggieTales and Whats In The Bible?" You have a platform and a reputation, and you capitalized on that with a form of media that is perhaps outside of your normal repertoire but worked. Also, I think there was something about an "old Christian white man" explaining racial injustice that made this that much more powerful.

[@Danimal1177]

The very first line in the "Holy Post - Racism" video was "We need to talk about race", yet the comments were turned OFF, which prevented us from talking. I imagine the reason for doing that was because the "inequalities" between blacks and whites that were alleged in that video have been proven to be false by several sources.

[@zackcypher1079]

XD so true.

[@lerayeason]

Phil you are awesome!! I love how you break things down!!

[@internetuser7156]

I hate that the comments on those other videos (on racism) are turned off. I really appreciate what you did them. Now I'm a subscriber.

[@gloriaa3652]

I’m glad you made the video. I plan to share it over and over with people.

[@padah2k386]

I love what Sky says at 36:26 about being forced to choose "either or...".

[@Ripprock1]

Thank you Phil Vischer for the vids on race. You are brave for telling people about how a lot of those issues came about. Unfortunately, you may have to pay a bit for doing so. Side note but maybe adding to the race issue of understanding what the other side may or may not think, I noticed that when she mentioned the word woke your two male guests and a bit yourself also seemed to cringe at the thought of you being woke to something that was happening to you. This word was generally first used around AA circles with a meaning of simply being aware of something. I am amazed at how this more or less slang term has been so politicized and dividing. Again thank you so much for the series. I will be sharing them with individuals in my small corner of existence to hopefully spread some much-needed understanding of the issues.

[@TheHakeReport]

I’m about halfway through. You guys should be cheering on the opening of comment sections so that people get a feel of the online reaction. I personally love KZbin comment sections, and feel it’s oppressive when people/media outlets close down comment sections. Let the people speak! I do understand there’s a time and place not to allow it.

[@alonjones2927]

You NEED a minority to help host this show to attract a more diverse audience

[@colepat]

Phil, I want to help you make more videos. I can do motion graphics and help with editing. You got a good voice in this world.

[@bman11714]

“When your experience doesn’t conform to the data” is precisely the truth about systemic racism in policing

[@birchtreefarm1]

I shared your racism video on FB and my 79-year-old father said it was absolutely shocking and heartbreaking, and he would pass it along. My dad is a former pastor and lifelong conservative Republican and Limbaugh listener. It seems there is still some hope for him! 😉

[@mrsmestas]

postmodern truth, post-truth, cognitive dissonance, authentic witness, technology, communication, counter-cultural personhood of Jesus... Great themes discussed and reflected on, well done. Although not in complete agreement with everything stated, it is a good reminder that a conflict of ideas does not need to escalate into a conflict of people. Plant the seeds, renew the mind, transform the heart. "Truth takes love to share and courage to receive." Fight the good fight, ya'll.

[@t2coaching729]

So appreciate the Race in America video, and loved hearing this follow up. thank you for your stand!!!

[@vwilliams8275]

@Geto Daco Because it's the truth. Can you dispute it?

[@MitchBolton]

Phil: I plan on showing your video to my older kids to introduce them to this reality. I have sheltered them for too long.

[@silencerbear9347]

Don’t show your kids this guys lies. Blacks are not oppressed. They do not need your sympathy. They need to be told that they have agency and to stop being victims.

[@Hearthmagic]

Yes, Phil!!! More content for adults. You are a master teacher!

[@zacharysiple629]

23:37 I agree too. My guardian thinks I'm too old for Veggie Tales so if you created a fun show for adults and made a DVD series out of that, I would totally buy it! :)

[@clips4u2006]

I'm digging what I've seen so far. Was turned on to your "Holy Post. Race in America". Which is Excellent! And, I may add, is a very good conduit to Love in Christ, Our Father's grace and plan for Redemption, and yea...Receiving the Holy Spirit. I request that with all this attention...hold on to HUMILITY Christ preached. Don't OWN any of this. Just let it happen and don't fall into that trap. DON'T own any of it. Give that up to the ONLY one that deserves. You know what I'm saying here. Otherwise.... Rock on my Brother!!!

[@fouroverseven7799]

I know Vischer says he doesn't know what the solution to racism is in his original video, but what is the solution? Pretty much all the racist practices he mentioned are now illegal.

[@gben82]

I know, right? That was my biggest criticism of that video--basically every thing he mentions in that video is illegal (except for the argument about the drug war affecting blacks more) and HAS BEEN for decades! Kind of a big clue when every photo in that video is black & white. There is no solution, just like there isn't a solution to people not sinning anymore, which is what Christianity needs to propagate itself, and this new religion of anti-racism is no different. Watch some of John McHorter's content. He's the one who opened my eyes to all this actually being a religion--and he's black!

[@Niceperson12]

@@gben82 I think the idea, despite the fact that a lot of the things he mentioned are now illegal ( thank God), is to point out how crucial these things have been in carving racism in to America. We are now dealing with the aftermath of that. I personally believe there is still a lot of racist policies and racism that is happening whether we can see it, or say it's legal or not. But that's another topic.

[@adamyoung7999]

Listen to Morgan Freeman. He said the solution to ending racism is to **STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.** Blacks need to deal with the anger and confusion within and white liberals need to deal with their internalized guilt. And everyone needs to **SHUT UP AND TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.**

[@racheljordan4899]

Omg yes PLEASE will you enter your viral video into the Christian Worldview Film Festival?!?! Needs to be heard!

[@JohnThomas-ut3go]

I love that their interpretation of Fawell jr.'s apology was insincere and only about what he would lose if he didn't apologize. Great book title. What if Jesus was serious. That seems like a great concept. I love the ending about buzz words. Thing is we are taught by political parties to be offended by these buzzwords. They don't want us to look deeper into each others ideas.

[@Hearthmagic]

Thank you for the reminder to be more prayerful.

[@JP2GiannaT]

I loved that video that you made simply because you very factually explained history without any agenda or guilt tripping for not knowing this stuff already. Most 'informative' videos on this have an outside agenda one way or the other. I think part of the reason this one took off is because it didn't.

[@jeanbryan8341]

May you please add links to the sources you quote throughout the videos Racism in America Part 1 & 2. I came across some of these studies that you quote, but I would love to be able to read the rest. After watching, I came away realizing that racism in America is far worse than even what I had read.

[@donalddodson7365]

Discounting the late George Floyd as a potential authoritative voice regarding the Bible "because he has a criminal past" totally ignores the recorded teachings of Jesus and the record of sinners who became transformed by the Holy Spirit, etc. Nice discussion about story telling, choice of topics, allusion to adult attention spans and learning styles, engaging people long enough (vis a vis Twitter) to allow attitude changes. Rhetorical question: did Jesus get "snarky" with appropriate provocation? :-) At 33 minutes: speak the Truth in / with (agape) love. Great conversation, you all. ALSO HUGE: RE-THINK BEFORE TWEETING AND RE-TWEETING! AND BE MORE PRAYERFUL, TO BE THE PEOPLE OF CHRIST. Thank you all.

[@erickah5947]

I appreciate this video. Just came across it and the others on race. Very informative.

[@rob.scalioni]

You guys make an excellent point: I did come across this channel though that first race video. Excellent work Phil My kids love Veggietales and What’s in the Bible Keep up the good, and blessed, work

[@jmacangrl]

IMO the BLM movement simply highlights and insults the chronic somnolence of the church. The rocks are crying out. (Btw, thanks for the thoughtful and thougt- provoking content-- and veggietales.)

[@dacoolfruit]

Definitely want more content like this... I like the more scripted and edited videos, they are easier to watch, though I appreciate the informal conversation also. :)

[@michellestevens3095]

Wow there is so much I could say right now. One if anyone knows what you have done, knows your humor in some ways is sarcastic but fun. Sometimes for me sarcasm is a way to jar awake and possibly look at something differently. You don't know how much of a blessing you have been to my family since you have come closer to God. I totally didn't know you have done anything since what's in the Bible. I'm amazed and love it. We will be looking up the podcast and more. Thank you

[@tsenor]

I'm a little confused about Phil's response in the discussion of the photo of Clinton in front of a church. At the end of that discussion, Phil said that he didn't see any difference between the Clinton photo and the Trump photo op. Was he being serious or sarcastic? Earlier, he said there was a parallel between what BC and DT did but then said he was being sarcastic. But the sarcasm, if that's that it is, at the end of the discussion isn't clear. This is a genuine question: did Phil see a difference between the two POTUSs or not?

[@licoreen]

He was being sarcastic. The difference is clear: one posed in front of a church, held up a Bible provided by his advisor-daughter; the other was photographed as he was exiting a worship service at a church he regularly attended, carrying his Bible.

[@jll716]

Definitely sarcastic in my opinion.

[@silrancwander]

Thank you for conversing what's going on. I hate watching the news because everything is so confrontational and my Enneagram 9 can't handle it. I love hearing *conversations* about what's going on. We can learn so much when we converse... listen to the other person, not only thinking about your side but listen. We are all made in the image of God with the name tag "human - handle with care"

[@seanl548]

Check out the Rubin Report then

[@2serve4Christ]

"It is not our business to become involved in #slavery. Those are #social issues. We have been called to #preach the #gospel. We must deliver the Word. We must save people's #souls. We must not get involved in the issues of liberating people from the chains of slavery. If they accept #Jesus #Christ as their Savior, by and by they will be free - over there." - Tom Skinner quoting "the [strangely #silent ] #evangelical, Bible-believing, #fundamental, #orthodox, #conservative church" (from keynote address at #InterVarsity #Christian Fellowship's 1970 Urbana Conference) 🛐✝

[@cindychurch335]

Phil, I have watched and rewatched your race videos. Thank you! It opened my eyes to so much. MOST WHITE PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THIS! And we need to know. Your explanation was short but so easy to understand. This is priceless and explains so much. I’m 65 years old and remember riots of the 60s and 70s but not the reasons WHY. Thank you for your commitment to truth.

[@mooseman1754]

Comments on the other post are turned off but I would like to respectfully point out from my perspective in law enforcement, the “militarization” of police happened in 1997 in direct response to the 1997 North Hollywood shootout. Two bank robbers with AK-47s and head to toe body armor fought against cops with pistols and shotguns, the cops couldn’t touch them until they got rifles from a local gun store. That’s why you say in your video it started in 1997. If I ever get into a shootout in my career I do not want to face a situation like the 1997 North Hollywood shootout without a rifle or the training I’ve received. (I am NOT an advocate for no knock warrants, I think those are asking for a law suit and mistakes to happen)

[@SherriSLC]

First time I've watched a Holy Post podcast...thank you. Skye: It's "Black Lives Matter" not "Black Lives Matters" ... LOL . And a shout-out to the guy in the top right corner of the video--I don't know who he is, but he didn't get to say a word and he seems a bit like a suffering servant. :-)

[@JaseRuggy]

That's me! I'm there to laugh and chime in every once in a while. I didn't have much to add this time, but I do sometimes. Mostly I'm just there to make sure the the video/audio are working.

[@gospitsgofox2155]

The past two podcasts Phil hasn't even said "hello" to you. Perhaps someone should point this out to him.

[@JaseRuggy]

@@gospitsgofox2155 Several people brought it up, and he intros me on the new ones!

[@GlenPetersonSoCal]

Who is the guy in the top right square? Do you ever refer to him? Or, is he just to balance your square to fill out the screen?

[@TrevorRuby]

To group people by skin color and attribute to that group attributes is an unbiblical way of looking at the world.

[@ruslanbatko4892]

The comment section of the original message on racism from this guy is disabled. Can’t comment because he said so. Yep that’s right no comments.

[@LinkMcStink]

It's probably because he knows that virtually every one of the talking points in that video have been roundly debunked, most notably by Ben Shapiro. This guy is a coward who is too afraid of rational discourse.

[@ashasonu9620]

you can post your hate here though.same guy.

[@nightflight83]

@@ashasonu9620 Because anytime someone counters a progressive's usually vacuous opinion it's "hate."

[@jonathanwright4160]

This guy phil is cowardly. He is overly concerned with what people think about him. Hence his watering down of Christian belief's on his podcast. His co-host supports Islam. I don't know how he can have a Christian podcast with a muslin. I have nothing against Islam but it's wrong to say they 2 religions are the same

[@michaellapalme1198]

What’s up with the silent dude in the top right corner in every video?

[@chrissy1374]

That's Jason Rugg! He's the editor and monitors the video and audio as they're recording, so he's mostly focused in on that, though from time to time, he'll jump in =) At the end of each episode, Phil credits Jason as the editor. He's also involved in Skye's podcast, The Movie Proposal, where they review movies and Jason chimes in more on that podcast, especially at the end where they do the segment "Something Blew." And on Christian's podcast for her film The Girl Who Wore Freedom, Jason is a co-host with Christian and Josh Lindsey.

[@maryella]

Please upload the video to Instagram 🙏🙏🙏

[@gben82]

52:00 - What?! The label "racist" or "racism" has _extremely_ negative connotations, and it's perhaps one of the worst moral condemnations you can lay on a person aside from r*pe and murder.

[@zabumatthew]

The problem they’re getting at is that the people who get offended by being told that they are enabling racism have a less complete understanding of what the word means. You don’t have to hate other people to benefit or contribute to racism. As a teacher, if I stand by idly as my school maintains policies that effectively prevent the hiring of people of color and disproportionately disciplines students of color while putting them in low track classes, I am contributing to racism. Am I evil? I hope not. Am I contributing to racism? Yes.

[@gben82]

@@zabumatthew ..ya well I think we can almost say with certainty, and your comment kinda of shows this, that the word itself is losing its moral "punch". I'm reading that "White Fragility" book now, and the general message I keep hearing everywhere is basically "Just accept it--you're a racist or contributing to racism" or "Racism is just a part of who you are" kinda like original sin.

[@nightflight83]

@@zabumatthew How about the disproportionate disciplining of boys?

[@robertcrowe6236]

Thank you!

[@CrystalClearThoughts]

This is great!!

[@zacharysiple629]

When does The Girl Who Wore Freedom come to DVD, if ever?

[@naomibeall6047]

Phil - Is there a way to make a one time donation to the Holy Post podcast?

[@tracemusic777]

Hello. I would like to know what were the sources used for the studies about minority motorists compared to white motorists? I wanted to leave this comment on the original video but comments are off. Thank you for the video.

[@LifeWithNate86]

"Be The Bridge" is a good, Christian equivalent to "Black Lives Matter" if you are uncomfortable with "supporting" that group.

[@LifeWithNate86]

Geto Daco Nothing Christian about it....fixed. I think the issue is that people are simply afraid to say black lives matter because they feel like it magically donates to the organization. It doesn’t....you can say the words.....It’ll be ok.

[@meam80skids]

So true Phil. 👍🏼

[@Ms12369]

If it makes Phil feel better, I'm sure even Mr. Rogers had things he wished he could improve on. God gives everyone gifts but we're also imperfect and have our struggles. We all make up parts of the body of Christ. Feet can't always do what elbows can but the opposite is true too and that's what's so great about diversity. It's better to try to be more Christ-like than Mr Rogers-like. Be humbled that being perfect is impossible but Jesus' death made you perfect and you can use your unique gifts to spread God's love in the world. Just remember: God made you special and he loves you very much :)

[@harleymoore2739]

I thought he had some good info. Would have improved it with sources. He gave some years for the mid 20th century issues but no administrations. The GI Bill formed under Roosevelt and signed by Truman (even though Truman was probably the most pro-African American Democrat ever - but given the running that was no difficult task). I understand it’s a topic that takes more than a 5 minute monologue to address. But it would have helped if he’d mentioned the major players in office on both sides. And I would have preferred be included Trumps policy that has undone many if the criminal issues that were mentioned. But I think he avoided Trump so as to not undo all he had said since Trump is THE trigger word for all those left of center and sadly some right of center. I am curious to read more about what Trump just signed regarding police reform. I hadn’t realized how Clinton militarized then under his administration. Something I believe should have been challenged in constitutional grounds. Bottom line is we didn’t get here over night or even over 250 years. We go here over a little over 6000 years of sinful mankind. Injustice happens because men love the darkness more than they love the light. And know amount of money or legislating or counseling will ever change that. Because it was all settled a little over 2000 years ago when God told the world which lives mattered. For God so loved the WORLD that He gave is only begotten Son so that WHOEVER believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

[@zackcypher1079]

Amen

[@Free_Snooki]

He's just so cute. _🙊💙_

[@alexlancaster5994]

I really love watching one of your shows which is VeggieTales

[@cooperonthego2]

Bring the snark! :)

[@MyDustyBooks]

I wish there was a what's in the Bible for adults

[@rc06109]

We all need to examine how we see the Bible. Trump is far from the first person to use it as a prop. Unfortunately Skye has once again criticized Trump, but fails to mention his own shortcomings or anyone else’s. Not that his criticism is wrong, I think Skye is right. However the fact that he rarely gives the same scrutiny to anyone else is my biggest frustration of an otherwise great video.

[@ReallyDevon]

Snarky 🙂✊🏽

[@jjburton]

I always appreciate your perspectives. Yes, you're snarky but whatever. First of all, I think you're doing a great job of speaking to really difficult issues in a thoughtful way and this minefield is pretty fraught with toe-stepping. My bigger issue with your podcasts (not this one in particular) is that it feels too often like you straw man believers and fellow Americans that don't see things the way you do. That you can't see some differing perspectives in your own mind well enough to consider other motivations than assuming pretty poor (and sometimes bad) motivations. Having grown up in the bible belt and gone to a variety of denominations it feels too often like you have conceptions of Christians that I've rarely met as being the majority. It's a pretty regular feeling listening do you. I appreciate your podcasts and thoughts regardless. This is a difficult time, thanks for doing your part to be Jesus today.

[@jll716]

Not only was that Bible in the picture Clinton's Bible, it had bookmarks in it!

[@melvinotey7426]

I watched your videos on race. You strike me as a wealthy white liberal whose family has not been effected by violent crime. Unfortunately my family understands that prisons are built because criminals kill people and damage families. Some people need to be put away because they hurt other people.

[@bgood4449]

Some people strike me as persons who are either sincerely ignorant or displaying conscientious stupidity. There is a root cause of the violence/crime that doesn't even address the so called "justice system" that is disgraceful. Why is there so much criminality in Russia even with a dictator?

[@nitaw.498]

What does your comment have to do with race? Please explain.

[@ahayahlove37]

Mr. Vischer I wanted to leave a comment about your Race in America video but it was disabled. You started by asking why were people angry, did you mean the so-called Blacks in America our people in general? I can tell you a few of my beliefs as to why the so-call Blacks in America are angry, 1. There is no such thing as Black or African American people, they do NOT exist to Ahayah which is why they are being treated like their LIVES DON'T MATTER!. 2. We are the people who are suffering from the curses our forefather Moses told us about in Deuteronomy 28 and YOU are of the people Christ told us about in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. 3. The other races have kept from us who we really are as a people for over 400 years because they knew the power that would be restored to us once we are awakened and turn back to our God. The change is going to come because it has been prophecized that it will but until it does the true Children of Israel who are the salt of the earth; the light of this world; the apple of The Most High Gods eyes are going to be Hell a Mad and will soon roar like lions like they did when the walls of Jericho crumbled, their roar would be so loud everyone will shake in their army boots because that's the kind of God we will serve, he will make every knee bow down to worship us by putting his knee on the necks of all who hate us and have treated us as our lives DON'T MATTER by putting their knees on our neck and worst causing us to suffer and die as soon as we realize who we are as a people because right now, he doesn't know any people who are classified as Black, African American, or any of the bywords we have been called over the years. Also, the two babies you had in your video at the end looked like twins, Ha

[@nightflight83]

So what is your cult called?

[@unrelatedcoma]

Jesse Lee Peterson showed your viral video today - you should go on his show!

[@YCS360]

How does it feel to be a liar phil

[@nitaw.498]

What did he lie about?

[@gnavajr]

If you want people to listen you need street cred. Have Larry Elder (a black man) on your podcast to bounce your facts and ideas off of and I think people might listen. Otherwise, you just sound like another white-euro guy with white-euro guilt - know what I mean?!

[@marie_h1104]

Why should he follow your advice?

[@Origen17]

Perfectly put. There are plenty of Black voices that would take issue with the view presented herein.

[@AnActualWolf]

Gabe, I agree with your suggestion of diversifying the speakers...but with an important caveat. Phil seems to understand that his audience is largely white (note his use of "us" and "we" in his now famous video on race). In my personal experience, white people tend to be willing to listen when only when it's other white people talking--this is especially true when it comes to race. On matters of race, I tend to encounter more defensiveness or outright hostility from my white colleagues and friends. I think dismantling white supremacy is a white person's project; white people workshopping with other white people seems, in my opinion, a good starting point. Perhaps if this series continues, Phil will consider bringing in more non-white voices--but this shouldn't happen before the proper groundwork is laid (e.g. learning how to listen, learning how to think about race differently, learning to take BIPOC stories with greater authority, learning how to see one's own racial bias, etc.). Otherwise, you're just asking a black person to invite hostility from an audience who isn't yet ready to hear what they have to say.

[@efrainperezjr402]

@@AnActualWolf Larry Elder is a prominent black conservative who would challenge Phil and his audience, but not in the way you are imagining. He'd generally say that systematic racism either doesn't exist or at least doesn't account for the majority of the black community's current issues. Phil Vischer and crew (and presumably his audience) are generally sympathetic to the ideas of systematic racism, white privilege, unconscious bias, etc. Larry would suggest they are barking up the wrong tree when trying to understand the plight of black Americans. He'd bring up everything Phil skipped in his viral video (the deleterious effects of Lyndon Johnson's welfare programs, illegitimacy rates in black community and the breakdown of the nuclear family, etc).

[@zackcypher1079]

Good post my friend.

[@crysis_averted]

A Reasonable Latino Responds to Phil's video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6aZaY1_l7Z4nLc

[@bman11714]

You guys cite “facts” as told by leftist media. It’s really unfortunate

[@jeremyjasonpage5863]

Rad

[@professionalhermit4592]

If i was to put in one word the main theme i learned from Gods word it would be FOREGIVENESS. Was that in your video? I have not watched it yet.

[@ElvistaTX]

I would say I have learned LOVE from God's word. This word trumps all. No pun intended.

[@ruthstorkel9627]

Your comments about Trump using the Bible are wrong and judgemental....you don,t know his heart.

[@seanl548]

You have no idea what you're talking about

[@peterhenriques6404]

Another lie from the deniers is that BLM is some far left politically aggressive group. It started with three women who are dismayed and angry at the ongoing disgusting institutional racism of the USA. I saw Phil's video and I cried...I cried at the ongoing historical injustice of this so called country of freedom. Its a fascist state!

[@nightflight83]

I hope in the month since you posted that you have done a little research beyond what the mainstream media has told you. The founders of BLM are admitted Marxists, they want to "disrupt the nuclear family" among other things.

[@dacoolfruit]

@@nightflight83 No, that is not what they said, but they do believe that family should be limited to the nuclear family. As in, your community and village are also part of your family, not just your nuclear family. If you.read their.statement on their website, it should be clear. But of you can find an actual.quote by BLM on their website that states otherwise, let me know.

[@Sanddollar1]

Phil tried [and failed], in his PART 2 video, to answer the arguments put forth by the critics of his first video on racism. SO........... WHAT DOES HE DO? He turns off all comments, of course! Folks, you are being fed a line of bull and it is straight from the Golden Calf.

[@nitaw.498]

I thought PART 2 was just as great and insightful as PART 1. What part of PART 2 did you object to?

[@jonathanwright4160]

There are no lessons to learn from this "Christian." He does not believe in evangelical Christianity. Go listen to his podcast. He makes jokes about abortion and how god would not choose to overturn Roe v Wade because god "doesn't care about abortion."