My 3 Month Testosterone Results Before & After | TRT Over 40 (Life Updates)

[@XanderJudd24]

I am 67. I started TRT through Peter MD about two months ago. In just a few days after starting, my mental alertness skyrocketed, and my energy is much better. My memory loss has been eliminated. I’ve purposely lost 75 pounds since January, and the TRT is helping with that. Although I’m a widower (1 1/2 years now) after 45 great years with my wife, ED has corrected without anymore little blue pills. Never thought I’d even look for companionship again, but my rejuvenated body has frankly caused me start…exploring again. 😮 I plan to post here after my next labs to provide a comparison.

[@40OverFashion]

Love it Russ! Thanks for sharing!

[@UnaVidaSinExcusas]

What dose are you on?

[@lozgod]

Happy smashing Russ!

[@Kayaoffshore]

Proper trt use 👍

[@randalcoats7529]

I’m 62 and got my first injection this morning. My t level was 210 and the creams and gels weren’t taking any affect. I tried self injections but kept botching it up. So I finally got my urologist to just give me the injection every 14 days. I’m praying this works. Keep me posted. Thanks.

[@davidnelson7498]

Been on TRT for little over a year now. Told my PCP and he is uninterested in commenting on it. I think TRT solves a ton of issues that would hurt big pharmaceutical from selling antidepressants to weight loss and many other drugs that keep you dependent. TRT solves issues. Get tested. If T is low, give it a try if not for you then stop. If you do the work and lay off fast food you will be amazed how good you feel.

[@Rickybobby427xyz]

Yea real talk. You nailed it. Insurance needs to cover trt. Anti depressants are so over prescribed it’s horrible.

[@mikewattsvudustudios]

There are ways to control or bring down hematocrit or high red blood cel count. Yes, donating blood works but when my doctor told me my levels were elevated the whole blood letting thing sounded kind of barbaric to me. Less booze, more exercise, stay hydrated, eat oatmeal -bran- (slows down iron absorption). I did these things and when I did my next blood panel my range was perfect. Personally I do NOT enjoy the dizzy, sick feeling of pulling enough blood to control this, especially over and over being that I have no plan on stopping the TRT…So, maybe that “sober October” and a more strict exercise regiment is exactly what you need! Good luck on your journey! Thanks again for your honesty and insight! In addition to all of you TRT haters and nay sayers, I am 57 and have been healthy exercising/training since I was 19, non stop! But when I turned 46 I was feeling tired, forgetful, weak after workouts and I thought I was sick. So, I went to a Dr and did a shit ton of tests. Low Test was the answer my Dr. Told me. What’s good for you is good for you..YAY here’s a trophy for being so perfect!!! Stop hating and let everyone do what’s best for them!! ❤❤

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you Mike!

[@MmeDesgranges]

The thing is with TRT your body will just keep increasing red blood cells so you will end up with hematocrit problems at some point. There is no way to stop this, just resolve it temporarily. Of course, everyone's body works differently so the increase in HCT might be far slower for some. Unfortunately studies show older men increase HCT faster than younger men.

[@tomdyer3511]

I started TRT about 9 using the same syringe/needle/vial combination that John talks about in the video. While I never had a problem with this method, it wasn't always the most convenient in terms of getting the measurement right, inection placement, traveling with supplies, etc. About a year ago, I switched to Xyosted. If you've ever seen an Epi-Pen, that's exactly what this looks like. It's already measured out, you never see a needle, and it's virtually painless. You inject it into your belly fat next to you navel, and I won't lie, you don't feel it. It's hurt more to pinch your fat than the injection itself. No mess, no fuss. It's truly been a game changer for me!

[@400exCrf450rRider]

do you get lumps where you inject?

[@linemanap]

What's the cost?

[@tomdyer3511]

@@400exCrf450rRider Every few injections I may get a slight bump, but it’s usually gone within a day or so. What I’ll typically do is slightly massage the injection area for a couple of seconds to kind of even out the solution under the skin. I have some area on my belly area, so any bump is fairly hidden. I also alternate between the left side and right side of my navel, so if there were ever a slight bump, it’s completely gone two weeks later when I do the next injection on that side (this is a weekly protocol)

[@tomdyer3511]

@@linemanap I’m not sure what the actual cost of the medication is, since my insurance covers it, minus a $40 copay. I did have to get a pre-authorization from the insurance company to have it covered.

[@400exCrf450rRider]

@@tomdyer3511 do you get lumps where you inject?

[@bobdrawbaugh4207]

Thank you for the video. For the last year I’ve felt like I had terminal disease. Extreme fatigue to the point some days/ weeks I could barely get out of bed. Brain fog to the point I couldn’t do basic math some days. After a year of Test and nothing was found. My Doctor talked to me about starting TRT. My total T for the past year has been 190. I’ve had one injection a week ago. So, I’m keeping my fingers crossed that this is the answer.

[@40OverFashion]

Me too! Thanks for sharing!

[@kfl611]

Good luck !

[@nate1mizzou]

How are u feeling now?

[@bobdrawbaugh4207]

@@nate1mizzou feeling much better. My primary Doctor sent to a specialist after he started me on TRT. He changed my dose and from one shot every to weeks to one shot a week. Now I’m trying to recover from the past year. Short work out and long walk on alternate day. Brain fog is gone and the fatigue is much better. My life is much better.

[@nate1mizzou]

@@bobdrawbaugh4207 that’s awesome. I had bloodwork today and I’m 100% sure I have low T. Always tired and feel weak. It that’s the case, I’m hoping to get on some T

[@johnr2273]

Keep on eye on iron. ( Hemochromatosis ) High levels can potentially damage organs . People with Irish background are at higher risk. Get Ferritin checked . If high give Blood to bring levels down

[@afuentesalburo]

Hi, Just some clarifications because I’m not sure if you are following an endocrinologist in this process: - TRT it’s good IF needed; if your original levels of testosterone were in normal range the indication of replacement is not accurate, and its use is not innocuous, there are potential side effects in the short and long term - A sangaree (yeah, to donate blood is nothing more than that, pretty close to use leeches) is not a treatment for, what you are describing, a basically normal level of hematocrit and hemoglobin; in any case they solve the issue when the levels are too high, but it’s only a control of the sign, not of the source, and the source is: you are using testosterone! Teetostore increases level of hemoglobin and hematocrit. Thank you for sharing your journey; for more accuracy I suggests you to look for an endocrinologist or internal medicine specialist (I’m a surgical oncologist)

[@etfremd]

I believe the problem is not taking T on a daily cycle following the diurnal rhythm. That’s how I’m starting and we will see if anything gets elevated. Since it’s oil it takes 10-12 hours to spike so I plan evening injections so it aligns with a peak at 8am.

[@bsh1967]

If you don't like the weekly shots, you might consider switching to the gel that you put on daily. You just rub it on your shoulders each day so you get a consistent dose. Plus, it's available in a generic so it's really cheap. Through my insurance, I pay $20 every three months.

[@40OverFashion]

From my research, it’s not nearly as effective, but yes, it is an option for some. Thanks for commenting!

[@tazpoochie]

Im on the gel . Mine went from 300 to 1000 in six months . Halved the daily 50mg dose and slipped back down to 300 in a month . Felt exhausted anxious depressed and couldnt sleep . Back on the full dose again thank god . Testogel is the uk brand . Had to fight to get it because the doctor said i was just within the theraputic range .

[@scottyb.8710]

I’ve been in it for two years. I was VERY low - same levels as a man in his 90’s. I’m now slightly above average for a guy in his early 50’s which is right where I want it. John: you’re watching your PSA levels, right?

[@40OverFashion]

Yes! All good! I should’ve mentioned that in the video, but I am well within range.

[@theOzz13]

K2 with D3 is mighty important. K2 tells the calcium to go to bones where its needed. Other wise the D3 will raise calcium levels in the blood which leads to arteriosclerosis.. scarring of the veins/arteries which is an easy spot for cholesterol to gather.

[@chrisb3902]

I always appreciate your life updates John! Thanks for sharing!

[@40OverFashion]

My pleasure!

[@tberreth33]

You’re not way off base :). You asked lol. Numbers are important but the WAY YOU FEEL is probably the most important. Total T is a general reference. Low is worse than high. You’re not, obviously, a body builder which has multiple, multiple, times the range. Your Total T is good. I’ve been doing this since 2008 and there’s the ‘range’ which is kinda situational, but it really goes to how you feel and how much you are prescribed. I agree that it’s strange that there’s a taboo when women get hormone treatment and us guys get it as well, and that it’s taboo that we are tagged as being un-natural, as opposed to when women do it, then it’s OK. So… adjust the amount you get injected and how you feel. At our age, I honestly believe how you feel makes a ton of sense, vs the numbers Labcorp tells you. It would be easy to abuse, if that’s what you wanted, but I hear you when you just want to feel good/normal. Why is it so shaming for us men to want to feel ‘normal’ or good?

[@MmeDesgranges]

You 200% right bro

[@brianmccarthy6189]

9:03

[@DanielPacheco-o8s]

I am 66 yrs old.. my last testosterone test number was 349 ..I was feeling week,fatigue,and low libido..after lots of research I decided to go for time release Pallets inserted in your button. It was done by a doctor Md. I feel great no side effects. On the contraire..lots of energy and great and fast results of lifting weights and getting more muscle mass. This process one has to do it every 6 months. $700 per session.

[@eddiegardner8232]

You would find that the injections "suck" less if you would directly draw with small gauge insulin needles and inject twice or three times/week. Less muscle damage at the injection site, less conversion to estradiol and DHT due to reduced spiking of the T level.

[@blairmonkman7507]

Remember to monitor your blood pressure on TRT. Your hematocrit and heamoglobin may drop back into range if you inject twice per week vs once like you had mentioned. Its also actually less painful because its the amount of oil that causes the most discomfort. It's not a "theory" it keeps things stable it actually DOES and you can see the positive benefits of of injecting more frequently on your blood work. I'd also suggest regular morning cardio daily, (20 mins heart rate 100-120bpm) baby aspirin and even dropping the dose slightly before doing blood draws because that's not just a one time thing it will end up being every few months for life if you don't nip it in the bud right now. Good luck!

[@seasonedsaintsmnstry]

I’ve been on TRT for 6 years (I’m 53). One of the wisest decisions I’ve ever made. However, everyone should understand that TRT itself isn’t a magic pill. I highly urge everyone who is considering it, to combine TRT with better eating and exercise to get max results. Another thought…don’t expect drastic change overnight but allow some time for getting “dialed in” as each person is different and requires different dosages as well as receiving different results. But trust me…over the course of time, proper dosages and better eating and exercise….game changer.

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you for commenting! Very well said!

[@DesertMav]

I'm all here for the content and these health videos as well. I started my transformation about 5-6 months ago and I've lost about 20-25lbs. I have a long way to go and I've been maintaining my weight as well, so my plan is to refocus on my weight training and nutrition again. I'm also not getting into the Testosterone issue yet, but once i turn 40 I'll look into it. Also, for the Q&A, What would be the best route regarding updating your wardrobe while losing weight? Buy a few select pieces as you lose weight or just buy stuff for now and then buy more when the weight comes off?

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you! The problem will be finding things in your current wardrobe that fit well. I think it’s totally OK to pick up a few pieces as you move along.

[@noName-kn1lx]

I don’t take trt because i dont think I need it but people have asked since i am a gym rat. Why would people not take it? Women get hormone replacement therapy and no one bats an eye. I bet you feel 100 percent better now 343 is pretty low in the real world

[@40OverFashion]

Well said! Thank you!

[@MmeDesgranges]

Actually 343 is pretty normal for that age.

[@noName-kn1lx]

@@MmeDesgranges lol no its not

[@DetroitWrecker666]

I'm 453 at age 48. Which is a good number. However, I'm also taking medication that is known to lower test. So, I have a prescription to take either once every two weeks or split in half to inject every week. I am now taking that dose about every 3 days to boost it. Then I will come down to my prescription dose. Feel it right away.

[@Majnun74]

I am very healthy 50 years old. I do low-dose TRT (90 mg twice a week subcutaneous). I also supplement with Tongkat Ali/Fadogia Agrestis.

[@etfremd]

180mg once a week is not really low dose. Daily injections are better for keeping the HPG axis going and preventing side effects.

[@MmeDesgranges]

If you have testosterone why would youj bother with nonsense like Tongkat Ali etc? Also if you mean 180mg a week total, that's not low dose.

[@As3D__]

@@MmeDesgrangesI have a question plz if u went to take a TRT with normal dose and you wanted to give up later is it work I mean I’m 35 yrs old but Test level is About 3 I’m wondering if TRT could help me to increase the level of Test and then leave TRT bcz I’m now sleeping better and back to gym

[@bradleyfried]

Most people I see doing testosterone have not taken the step of actually getting fit. Get shredded, maximize your cardio health, and take your body fat % down to 15% then see where you are. Give your body a chance to show you what it can do. Health isn't in a pill/shot.

[@theartofdoingnothing4755]

In fact, the majority of people doing testo are the gym guys. Because when you exercise, you can notice the decline. This Chanel isn't the example

[@butcho7492]

I like that advice.

[@robertdaymouse3784]

I suspect this is correct. I am 62 and have been on TRT for 10 years. I tell people when they ask that the TRT just gives me the energy to workout everyday. If I was on TRT and didn't workout everyday I would be far from my 12% BF, and far from being able to do a sub 6 minute mile, 50+ pushup, and 25+ pullups. In general many of the default ranges given by the labs discussed in the video are not appropriate for a man on TRT. And the current standard of practice is to treat to Free testosterone levels not Total Testosterone levels.

[@swoops41]

Imagine how difficult this advice is to follow if you’re hypogonadal. Sure, just get your BF % down to 15, no problem. Maximize cardio health when having low T has been shown to be a negative for heart health. Get shredded when your hormones are tanked lol. Ppl who are hypogonadal, their body has shown them what it can do, and it sucks. Gatekeeping medication treatments just cos you don’t believe in pills/shots isn’t cool. Let ppl approach their health on their own terms

[@kirbyaugustine761]

@@swoops41I know what he was attempting to say but most of us that choose to go the trt route, myself included, aren’t just lazy fat a** who don’t want to do the work. I’m 52 and have been working out pretty consistently since the age of 12. I’m a certified personal trainer that loves fitness and chose trt as a last resort. Just as you said if your hormones are jacked then no matter what you do it won’t work.

[@paulwallace6612]

Hi John very informative video I really like the style of these they are more organic and don’t feel ‘staged’. I am 58 and thinking of doing testosterone things but everyone I ask tells me negative things about it like bad for your liver etc. can you tell me any negatives that you’ve heard ? Also I don’t think it’s as easy to get my hands on here in the UK. Anyway, I watch all your videos and they are great and really help my self confidence. Cheers mate and take care 👍

[@etfremd]

See your doctor. Daily injections are the best! But too many doctors don’t understand!

[@MmeDesgranges]

Injecting testosterone shouldn't bother your liver, but bloodwork every 3 months with a check on ALT will confirm. Taking T tablets will be hard on your liver.

[@ndlsumr]

Your friend is spot on about iron, John. Men shouldn't take any supplemental iron (unless specifically directed to do so by their physician) as it raises the risk of cardiovascular problems (and promote certain forms of cancer growth if you already have it). Speaking of which...the Vitamin D formula you are taking may actually improve both cardiovascular health and immunity. Vitamin K2 (as MK7) is very helpful for removing arterial calcium and sending it back into bones (where it's needed). And your Vitamin D levels are perfect. There are multiple studies stating Vitamin D can help ward off respiratory infections (PubMed). Glad to hear you're doing well!

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you very much!

[@michaelkearney7923]

I’m also not a medical professional but here it goes. Genetic mutations in the hemochromatosis gene (HFE) make up the most common genetic cause of elevated ferritin levels and are usually seen in Caucasian patients with northern European ancestors. Ferritin and also iron. You can get tested for ferritin by a simple blood test. Your levels weren’t too high so you might be like me with only a single copy of the mutation. Men’s multivitamins generally don’t have iron and women’s generally does. Women often don’t notice the problem until menopause, for obvious reasons.

[@etfremd]

@@40OverFashionhow much vitamin D are you taking? Your level is very good! Should improve immunity and allergies. My allergist has me taking Vitamin D. And it’s working.

[@robertofont6069]

Hey John! I like how open and forthright you are. Very natural, comfortable, organic video. It’s an invitation to your home and you so thank you. Question: Have you noticed any increase in strength at the gym since you started TRT?

[@40OverFashion]

My workout routine hasn’t been consistent, so it’s kind of tough to say at this point. I will say that my mood, focus, motivation, and energy have all increased for the better.

[@mikewattsvudustudios]

YES! Your strength will absolutely increase.

[@Sigma100_]

Just in time. I made my 1st appointment for TRT. Hoping it goes well. This video and the bros in comment definitely has me pumped up about the treatment.

[@40OverFashion]

Good man!

[@Fritz-f3x]

Hello John, thank you for all you do, your videos have been a real inspiration for me to upgrade my style and I'm now getting a lot of compliments from beautiful women! I have lost about 25 lbs. using intermittent fasting. Funny I have started my own sober October birthday month 66 years old on the 19th., so far so good! Thank you, Fritz from Riverside, Calif.

[@40OverFashion]

Rock on Fritz! Thank you!

[@raykleiner3151]

Hi John, nice relaxed presentation, you should do more of the spontaneous stuff! I have a full blood test every year now so I can compare my blood values, which are important to general health. From personal experience, recommend next time you include the Prostate Specific Antigen test (PSA) to keep tabs on your prostate, especially for those of us over 50. My last blood test showed up highly elevated values for PSA as I had inflammation of my prostate. We don't much like to talk about this subject but the fact is our prostate continues to grow. I personally highly recommend doing this test for peace of mind as with early diagnosis its treatable and curable.

[@40OverFashion]

Thanks Ray! PSA was good. 1.180. Range is 0.000 to 4.000.

[@MTbone7]

Yea but what is it actually doing for you? Numbers are up, but that sounds like it

[@40OverFashion]

Energy, motivation, focus, and overall not feeling like an old man.

[@JohnMcCullough-wr9hj]

Good to donate blood anyway. I am a regular blood donor - actually I donate plasma every month as I am a universal donor. Persons undergoing cancer treatments or burns need plasma.

[@romeyrome3219]

My doctor starting to piss me off last year I noticed my testosterone levels were dropping. I was 38 then my levels came back at 435 I had my levels checked three days ago. My levels came back. A 278 doctor keeps insisting on trying to stick me on anti-depressants and other kinds of medication‘s and keep avoiding the fact that I need TRT and starting to really piss me off because I know what my body needs. I am now 39 years old gonna be 40 in a couple months, but my doctor tries to say oh you look healthy. Your body looks healthy. Let’s just stick on some anti-depressants and see if that helps. Told the doctor only thing that’s making me depressed is not getting my testosterone levels back up and having to hear them trying to stick me on ED medication and anti-depressants.

[@40OverFashion]

Good man! Maybe look for some men’s hormone clinics in your area that specialize in hormones. Sounds like you’re at a dead end with your doctor. No idea why doctors won’t open their eyes for men, when women’s doctors openly discuss hormone replacement.

[@romeyrome3219]

@@40OverFashion we have the Rocky Mountains men clinic here, but they don’t accept insurance. They want straight cash, which is outrageously expensive Almost $1000 a month

[@bhavanova2849]

I’m interested in how you feel with the change in T levels…. I mean that’s the most interesting part!!

[@40OverFashion]

Less tired, more energy and better sleep. I’ll make an update video soon.

[@alwayspooh1588]

John, as much as I like your videos, as a sport scientist and physiologist, I do not advocate TRT for men unless for medical reasons. The first step should be to increase strength and cardiovascular fitness. This, coupled with fat loss - not necessarily weight loss, but fat loss, is important. Get some kettlebells and plan a workout plan as this will work both strength and cardiovascular fitness. Iron is needed as a supplement for vegetarians (like me) along with B12. Not being rude, but please stick to fashion videos. If people want health advice, there are better ways to get it than from your channel. I still like your channel though! Remember, there are people who may be influenced by you, good or bad.

[@dademurphy11]

Totally agree, i was on TRT thinking i needed it, split up with partner and decided to stop, sure i had a slump but i did my research and now i feel great. i eat a higher protien and fat diet, train 3 times a week, get 8 hrs sleep, cut out a lot of processed food, just have a few treats on a sat, oh and quite cigars and only drink a fe beers every 3 weeks or so, my advice is make changes in your life befor you jump on Trt or pills etc

[@alwayspooh1588]

Quite right!@@dademurphy11

[@danielchitown9339]

Keep your opinions to yourselves

[@kfl611]

@@danielchitown9339 I like hearing other's opinions ! Different ideas are what makes the world go around ! Well, as long as you keep an open mind.

[@toddmccallister1480]

TRT has been great and after 1 year and paying out of pocket, my urologist wrote me a prescription and got me a prior authorization for my insurance to cover it. So instead of paying $600+ for T I now pay a $15 copay for a 28 day supply. I hope that all that are on it find the right doctor, who reads current science and helps you too.

[@40OverFashion]

That’s awesome!

[@tc5691]

I’ve asked my urologist and family doctor if they can get tes covered but even with a Cadillac insurance plan they say NO because the range for T is so large 95% + fall within it. What else besides pay out of pocket can I do or say?

[@CowfordGarage]

@@tc5691is the issue with getting it prescribed or with the cost of the testosterone itself? If you’re in the states I’m pretty sure you can get 4 vials of testosterone cypionate 200mg/ml for around $30 by using GoodRX

[@XanderJudd24]

Previously you talked about not wearing undershirts or tees under your normal shirt. Temperature can affect that, but for us larger guys who are super self conscious about our ‘moobs’, the undershirt is a necessary confidence booster, to cover those pesky critters. Any thoughts or suggestions (minus surgery)? Are there alternative undergarments to help us out?

[@40OverFashion]

Definitely a good one for the Q&A.

[@kfl611]

I haven't worn a undershirt in years. I'm hot all the time and wearing a t-shirt I feel like I will ignite. I also don't wear plain white shirts much, which is the only reason I can see to wear a t-shirt - wearing a white shirt. Man boobs or not. ha ha ha.

[@jeremythompson1199]

Switching to sub Q injections can help keep your hemoglobin/hematocrit down. Donating blood too often gets old.

[@OverFortyFreakinAwesome]

Great video! I get an annual hormone panel blood test done, everything still fine at 47. I always urge guys to work on sleep, stress, drinking less alcohol, working out and eating less crap first THEN getting bloodwork done - if Test still low after all that then TRT is a good option IMO. My issue is with guys having self-inflicted low Test from cr*ppy lifestyle yet jumping on TRT unnecessarily.

[@40OverFashion]

Great point! Appreciate your comment!

[@aaustin1986]

Greatly appreciate you opening up with your personal journey. Very helpful in many ways. Thanks John.

[@40OverFashion]

I appreciate that!!

[@rayjustray4091]

So, is TRT for life? How long did it take for you to get used to giving yourself the shots?

[@40OverFashion]

Generally, speaking, yes. The shots still kinda suck every time, but you get used to it pretty quickly. It’s not that big of a deal.

[@pinoiboi13]

​@40OverFashion I guess u shoot it yourself or dr visit?

[@richardmurrayjr.2338]

Free test is the more important when trying to get into shape or build muscle. Also how is your mental state. Should be better as well. All the best with your journey.

[@40OverFashion]

Overall, mental has increased. It’s not a magic pill, and it doesn’t turn you into a superhero, but it definitely helps.

[@cre8gnr8nrg]

Thanks for the update. I've got an appointment with my doctor on Friday and if he's not willing to check my blood then I'll be getting a new doctor. Just turned 53

[@40OverFashion]

Good! At least get your blood work done so you know where you are.

[@celticspride133]

@ 60 hematocrit, I would donate asap.. Donating will reduce it it by 3 points. You will still be on the high side. I recommend lots of fish oil, Nattokinase, drink lots of water/fluids, and steady state cardio for at least 30 min a day.

[@MmeDesgranges]

You right bro

[@SandpaperBath]

Big fan of these check in videos... Keep 'em coming!!! Thanks, John!

[@40OverFashion]

Thanks, will do! Thanks!

[@alpabopo]

You're doing good. Just try to split the dose like you said and do it subcutaneous instead of intra muscular. If you start lifting weights and do cardio you won't have to donate blood that often. And of course you going to have that v taper body type.

[@MmeDesgranges]

IM will give you a better slow release over the week when you put it deep into your ventro. SQ is less hassle and less painful but ...

[@killthebunny1994]

Great video. Before starting TRT, really consult with someone about your bloodwork as well as your total health., consider certain lifestyle choices that can impact your hormonal profile. At 50 I was noticing I could not keep the same body composition, regardless what I tried. Felt a lack of libido. Saw all the hype of TRT and possible symptoms for considered usage. Got my blood tested. My total T was at 984, but my SHGB was 127. Basically this high SHGB was killing my free T. Was already taking Boron, Ashwagandha, and Tonka Ali to attempt to lower SHGB. Clearly not making a dent. Decided to try TRT and get my total T up to basically crush SHGB and increase my free T ratio. Over about 9 months definitely saw some benefits, but also saw some negative side effects like high blood pressure, worried about elevated DHT . Was doing additional research and found that extended intermittent fasting and extended restriction of carbs can raise SHGB (these levels also increase naturally as we age). I had been doing IF for years and reaped the benefits of keeping my body fat % below 13% or lower during summer. Decided to stop IF tweak my diet and retest blood after 3 months. Low and behold SHGB dropped to the 30's, in the lower range of normal. Decided to get off TRT and cycled some supplements to help jumpstart my natural production. Blood work at 3 months post last TRT dose had be back at 913 and SHGB at 37. Felt amazing again. Just my story, but may provide one of your viewers that TRT is a great option if you need it, but also look at the total picture before making the call.

[@etfremd]

Peter Attia talked about that as insulin drops SHBG goes up. What was your free T? Interesting we all have to find what works for us individually.

[@MmeDesgranges]

If you were 50 and your total T was 984 you were injecting test bro.

[@devglover4198]

Thanks for the great info and insight.

[@nerigarcia7116]

I gave up drinking years ago. Ask yourself, why do you really need it? Unless you're an aficionado, it's probably the one thing we started doing just to fit in. My friends asked me why and I said if it comes down to taste, there are a lot more other things I'd prefer to drink. There was a study that said 70% of people don't even like the taste of alcohol, why do you think they make it taste like other things? Might as well drink the other things. If it's just the buzz I'm looking for, then there's another set of issues I should address. My life isn't so bad that I need to escape something and the problems I have are manageable. Therapy has done more for me than alcohol. I make plenty of bad decisions on my own without alcohol, I don't need it to make me less sensible. In the end, it never made my experience better or more fun. If I'm drunk am I really experiencing it? Afterwards you just feel like sh!t. Then there's saving money, losing weight, not feeling horrible, not hanging around drunk idiots....I just don't feel like I need it in my life anymore. And I sure don't miss it.

[@40OverFashion]

Great points! Very well said!

[@kfl611]

No one liked going out to the bars with my friends and drinking than me. I decided to stop at 48 years of age. Went cold turkey - not too hard to do. Too many alcoholics in my family tree. I do enjoy a nice 'non-alcoholic' beer though, when it's hot out and I want to drink a beer or with pizza or Chinese food. I think it's helped my liver a lot, I have to save that sucker, I want it to still be humming along with I'm 95.

[@kenthawley5990]

Glad to see it's working for you! Two days ago, I got my blood work results after one year on TRT (2x per week). Starting test levels were 239; latest was 993 (24.3 free test). The only levels that were out of kilter were slightly high estradiol, which comes with higher test levels, and my LDL/HDL levels, which are soooo slightly off but improving. Triglyceride levels were amazing! At 60, in one year I've lost 20 lbs total, gained 9 lbs of muscle and seen my energy levels increase dramatically. I'm stronger than I've ever been. Plus, my libido has been energized. It may not be for everyone, but older guys should get educated and consider the option.

[@40OverFashion]

Glad to hear it! Congratulations!

[@StillWatersHideaway]

may I ask how you’re doing now? Dosage? Good and the bad. Hubby is just starting the journey but still in research mode. TIA

[@robertgoldstein7489]

Been on it for 7 years and it changed my life. I get bloodwork 2-3 times a year under an MD supervision. I have lost & kept off approx. 20 pounds, built more muscle and have strong focus and motivation.

[@40OverFashion]

That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing Robert!

[@michaelmontana0804]

No hair

[@DOENIGHTMARE]

😮​@@michaelmontana0804

[@yiluwididreaming6732]

where's your muscles bloke? what are your goals - short term / long term??

[@axelzahlut75]

No offense here and that's coming from a place of honest concern but I would question who gave you the "range"-numbers on the Hematocrit. The range for the Hematocrit (at least in Western Europe) is 40 to 52 and the red flag for blood doping would be 50. Over 60 was recorded in the mid 1990s during the Tour de France when EPO had been used a lot. On top of that, the number increased when you are sick.

[@MmeDesgranges]

You right. I would be frightened if my HCT was 0.60. I would donate blood the next day.

[@ravengsxr]

I'm 6'4" 220 lbs, not fat, good muscle mass. My T has always been in the high 100s or low 200s. Worst symptom of low to have is I have terrible insomnia, I just can't sleep.

[@MmeDesgranges]

Get a sleep study and check for sleep apnea bro. You can't tell you have it.

[@1533ramsay]

Ive been on testosterone for 12 years now. I didnt the 2xs per week for a few years. I wasnt good at being consistent with injections. So i went back to once a week. Im 61 now. Its my saving grace. It makes me feel younger. My body mass is easy to keep at my age. If you see older men that are soft and pudgy looking. They are low on testosterone and high on estrogen. I dont want to gonthere myself. I had major back surgery last December. Im slowly teying to get back into the gym. Oh, its easier to keep my weight down on testosterone. Men have your free testosterone checked by a urologists who is into helping men with testosterone. You GP is NOT the dr to track it. Most do not care or want to take time to know how to properly does the stuff. A good doctor know the chart means nothing. Its the individual patient a dr looks at. It does take a while to find the sweet spot on what dose works for you. Done correct it will be a game changer for old we gents...👍💯💪

[@40OverFashion]

Appreciate that! Thanks for sharing!

[@gregs.8895]

Ramble videos are always good. Best for listening to between meetings, don't have to pay much attention to the video feed, kinda like listening to a podcast.

[@40OverFashion]

Noted! Thanks for watching!

[@rfairweather67]

Great #'s John. Giving blood on a regular basis is a good way to reduce the "Thick Blood" issue. Also, talk to your health care professional about the Vitamin K in the D3+K2 sup you are taking. I believe vit K can contribute to high hemoglobin and hematocrit #'s, But I am not a Dr. so please verify.

[@40OverFashion]

Appreciate that! Thanks!

[@richardmurrayjr.2338]

Yes, u will have to donate blood. Same with ferritin. Ensure that you stay HYDRATED at all times. Blood viscosity increases with rise in your HEmoglobin and hematocrit.

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you!

[@asharerin]

Hematocrit of 60 is extremely high. Make sure to donate every 8 weeks until you get that under control (below 50). I did not see you once talk about blood pressure. Get yourself a wrist cuff BP monitor and keep track of that. High BP is extremely dangerous and there are no symptoms until its too late. Best way to control hematocrit and blood pressure is daily cardio. Dont not take any supplements with iron - most men's forumla multivitamins contain no ireon but check. But cardio, cardio, cardio please.

[@40OverFashion]

Appreciate that! Blood pressure is totally normal. Thanks again!

[@MmeDesgranges]

You right bro!

[@northern4112]

Great video thanks

[@SonsofIssac]

I started TRT about two years ago. I’ve lost about 10lbs without working out. My shoulders, pecks, traps, and arms got noticeably bigger. I donate blood every 2 months to Redcross. Just had my bi-annual blood work. Doctor said she loves my numbers. I started with test levels in the 220’s I’m in the 860’s consistently now. The best part is my mental health is frigging awesome. Zero anxiety, depression etc. I inject 20 units Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. Good stuff I recommend every guy over 40 to get tested

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you!

[@henryrivas8999]

😊 I have been on TRT for the past 5 years. The only negative is my hair loss. 😢

[@m.s.patrick2863]

I concur 1000% unfortunately I started Test. with my Doc and got a CPAP sleep machine the same week( cant separate which had a bigger effect)I feel 30 again! I only give myself a shot every 2 weeks, the last 2 days I can feel a little sluggish but 90% better than before. my iron gets high, i donate blood to red cross and they are happy to take it. Get checked men!!

[@DFWRob]

Any hair loss?

[@cz10756]

Why not workout thought?

[@joelrichards4965]

I am approaching 60, have regular check ups and blood work and through eating a balanced tasty but healthy diet and keeping active, I am on no meds. Strength training has been my go to but I am also a cyclist and serious skier. Strength training gives our bodies the support to age well and also, increases testosterone without meds. I will always do what I can through healthy life changes before going to meds. Meds are needed at times but can be a crutch also, look at how Ozempic is being overly used for weight loss. We all make our own decisions, but strength training has been great for me.

[@40OverFashion]

Great points! Thanks for commenting Joel!

[@melbman43]

Kudos to you mate, I'm the same age and also a cyclist. Joel Friel swears by strength training as we age. He would know, he wrote the cycling training bible.

[@joelrichards4965]

@@melbman43I have read Joel’s books as well. I raced for years, more for fun, and when I began strength training, my core was noticeably stronger adding stability to everything. I also walk more upright and am much stable when trail running or telemark skiing.

[@angellondian7628]

That’s great. I’ve stopped trt and noticed that my fat burning is getting a lot harder. You think I should lift heavier or increase frequency?

[@MmeDesgranges]

GLP-1-ags are amazing bro! What else has helped so many fatties get it under control? Remember everyone's body works differently. The regime that keeps you tip top might turn someone else into a bag of lard. Don't think your willpower and strength of mind stands you above others .. it's genetics most of the time.

[@paulmilon757]

Ive been on TRT for 6 years. The best change i made was splitting my dose to 2 times a week. It took away a few symptoms like acne on my back and just feeling more stable. I also donate blood to lower my hematocrit. I had to stop using the aromatase inhibitor as they wouldn't let me donate, as apparently causes birth defects if a pregnant woman gets the blood. However, it seems I didn't even need it anyway. (You can get a venesection where they take the blood and dispose of it, but they won't do that unless I really need it)

[@Mannycreated]

I had a feeling you were going to have about 20 free testosterone. A lot of body builders want to get between 24-28 lol my testosterone is about 650 and free is 15 and I don’t take trt I’m also 30. You have good numbers !!

[@kevinb3655]

Another note to the commenters below, trt is not meds. It is a hormone

[@MmeDesgranges]

Well it is a medication bro, but that medication is a hormone.

[@waynefrazee8798]

Thank you for the update; I bet more people care about you and your well-being than you might think. Thank you for all of your content; it has really helped me.

[@40OverFashion]

I appreciate that! Thank you! :)

[@MJMac83]

Have you experienced any hair loss? That’s the only thing keeping me from going on TRT.

[@40OverFashion]

None at all. I actually mentioned that in the video.

[@MJMac83]

@@40OverFashion I must’ve missed it, that’s why I asked. That’s great! I might give it a try. That’s for the reply!

[@MmeDesgranges]

Hair loss comes from elevated DHT levels. When you inject T, it;s going to aromatise into E2 and via 5-alpha-reductase into DHT. But every man's body works differently about how that works. Also elevated DHT is only an issue if genetically your scalp has a lot of 5-a-r receptors. So basically TRT doesn't necesarily mean hair loss. But if hair loss is in your genetics, then TRT can sure hurry it along.

[@SonidoExtacy]

Split your dose it will drop your hemo & change your syringe to an insulin syringe 27-1/2. Look up videos. Hurts less

[@MmeDesgranges]

John, Hematocrit at 60.7 is a problem. That means your blood is too thick .. too many red blood cels as a side effect of the TRT. You want your Hematocrit under 0.50. The risk you run when your blood is too thick is an increased chance of stroke, heart attack, etc. One way to resolve that is to donate blood, which will reduce the HCT (hematocrit) fairly quickly, but at 0.60 it might take more than once to get back under 0.50. You can donate blood every two months or so (provided they only take one unit). The problem with donating blood to reduce HCT is that your Iron levels also reduce, and they can become too low which is a whole other set of problems. You want full Iron Studies in your Labs every time to keep an eye on Iron levels and Ferritin. Over age 50 I would say the average man's total Testosterone level would be around 350 ng/dL, but most men feel best when their total Testosterone levels are around 500 ng/dL or so. You don't need 800+ ng/dL! You want the lowest possible dose that makes you feel better. The higher the dose of T, the more chance (and severity) of unwanted side effects. To say the upper value in a normal range is 1,100 ng/dL is just comedy. I would say that's higher than any man of any age has shown in the history of the world. You're only getting up there with injections of T.

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you! Appreciate that!

[@johncasper8193]

My testosterone is 1430 mg.. 10 years ago it was 1800 mg. Everyone is different. All of their blood counts are normal.

[@darrenbeachy4567]

Accept the challenge, John! As you know, alcohol does more harm than good. Thanks for the update

[@40OverFashion]

You’re welcome!

[@Vitality-and-Wellness]

Thanks for the update

[@drewgrows7765]

How many mg injection and the frequency?

[@40OverFashion]

125mg weekly.

[@drewgrows7765]

822 is a good number to be at. I expected you were taking more TRT than that. Since after not too long your body stops adding it's own Test. to the numbers.

[@jershold3427]

Before you decide to donate blood because of your hematocrit levels take some time to educate yourself first. There are some excellent channels and communities on YT, like TRT & Hormone Optimization, that address this as well as the use of AI’s for estrogen control, etc. Best of luck to you, brother!

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you very much! Appreciate you!

[@MmeDesgranges]

Oh Jeez, with HCT at 0.60 what he needs is venesection like now. Why confuse things with AI when he has no E2 issues?

[@MrClassicmetal]

Those are very nice numbers, it looks like you're at the upper end of the spectrum if we look at those ranges. As far as hair loss goes, judging by your hairline that's the last thing you should worry about.

[@meteor1237]

70 yo on TRT for 3 years; 5'10' 156 33" waist work out 6 days a week. Drs. say I look like a 60 yo and I feel great. Been great for me. John...check your Free not just your T.

[@40OverFashion]

Nice work!

[@kfl611]

When did I last weigh 156? Oh, about 38 years ago ! Yikes.

[@TruthFLA]

What emotional or physical changes have you noticed? Have your workouts improved? Sleep? Mood?

[@40OverFashion]

Mood is better for sure. Not sure about sleep or workouts. Focus, motivation and energy have all improved.

[@rbfarrell1]

I workout and stay pretty fit. Never overweight. But as long as I am living in the U.S. as a single man. I don't want high T levels no sense to have a high sex drive living in Southern California unless I am going to make the 40 minute drive down to TJ Mexico and pay a garden tool.

[@josearias2121]

At our age it is important not to lose muscle. Glad you are doing great

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you!

[@fessendenful]

i had very low t count. heavy leg days at the gym were a game changer for me...and of course, eliminating processed foods. good luck to all!

[@gtman4588]

Hemoglobin is high as a natural result of TRT. You need to donate blood a couple times a year.

[@TRTforLIFE]

He Matt O Crit. "Hematocrit" just so you know. Other than that your pronunciations and general knowledge are on point. Are you still sticking yourself and have you considered switching over to a testosterone cream? Not the commercial Androgel junk but actual cream from a compounding pharmacy. Just as effective as an injection and your Hemoglobin and Hematocrit don't have a tendency to rise as much. Give blood, drink water, and take an aspirin a day. Thanks for the informative video. I just started my own TRT journey at the age of 60 but I'm a nurse so I'm familiar with all the lab values.

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you! Yes, still injecting every week.

[@kevinbennett6986]

Started listening when I saw the video and subject, then, it’s just too much endless talking about unnecessary and uninteresting things in your life that have nothing to do with the supposed subject. No clear idea of how you feel after three weeks of TRT. I think you believe everybody wants to hear about every little detail in your life? Any way you can get to the point? Otherwise, I will seek another channel …

[@LlamaOates]

Nice one. So important to diagnose yourself

[@NewYorksFinest1]

My doctor did a T test and it came back at 323.4 for testosterone total lc/ms and free testosterone direct 7.4 I'm in my mid 50s and my Dr recommended T injections which she will show me how to administer when it comes in. She said she's Gona monitor me and to come back, after my 1st injection, in 3 months to check my blood again. I hate needles so I'm not looking forward to the injections

[@40OverFashion]

Good man! Self injections still suck every time, but it’s not that bad.

[@NewYorksFinest1]

@@40OverFashion just got my 1st injection of . 6ml. I have to do it 1x per week.

[@mileswoodard4278]

Cool John didnt realize you lived in Temecula. Im right up the road in French Valley. Love Altisma winery. Im a member, solid wine and great food at Gaspars! Let me know if you ever want to meet up for a coffee, would love to pick your brain. Thanks for the great content!

[@40OverFashion]

Very cool! Thanks!

[@hussainmohseen]

I am 39. Started testosterone cypionate three months back.. I do intense weight training regularly but i have noticed my body fat levels have gone up after trt. Does trt increase fat?? Does anyone have any idea about it

[@40OverFashion]

Not sure, but I haven’t seen anything that relates the two. I typically see the opposite, but I suppose we’re all different.

[@MmeDesgranges]

Testosterone is all about growing tissues bro. If you pin T, you need to up your food cleanliness.

[@hussainmohseen]

@@MmeDesgranges yes you are absolutely right brother.. it was my food.. ive been on a strict clean diet since last two months and ive seen a drastic change in my body. My overall fat has come down and i look ripped. Lets say another two months i might be able to come down to 6-8% body fat

[@hussainmohseen]

@@MmeDesgranges and yes ive switched from test C to sustanon 250.. its better

[@meteor1237]

I've donated 201 pints of blood; it helps. Good for you and people need it!

[@MmeDesgranges]

But his blood is useless because his HCT is 0.60

[@flomast3r]

#Orgasm on #TRT - How is it affected, if testicles have atrophied? #TRT - Do they send enough supplies for every other day injection frquency, or just for once/twice a week?

[@40OverFashion]

The “O” is exactly the same. I get a vile that lasts about two months with injection frequency at 1 per week.

[@flomast3r]

@@40OverFashion Doesn't once per week frequency cause spikes and crashes in T levels? My understanding is the more frequent the injections are, the more consistent the T levels are, which is better for your symptoms.

[@tberreth33]

OH, and … I think I “MAY” live in the same area as you. How can I direct message you, lol. I honestly think there might be some synergies here :) But I can’t tell from the KZbin app.

[@40OverFashion]

Feel free to send a message through Instagram or email from the contact info on my main KZbin channel

[@kevinb3655]

Actually it is a necessary medical treatment. I did not seek trt treatment. My doctor during annual bloodwork told me I was incredibly low for my age. Asked me questions and my answers confirmed to him that I should start trt. I blew it off and told him, comes with getting old. Did nothing for a year. He tested again and lower again. Decided to give it a shot. Life changing, for a short time. Referred to endocrinology. I had no idea the harmful physical effects of having low t. Significant osteoporosis risk, mental fog, depression….. now I am feeling like i did in my 30’s. Unless the commenters are doctors or have experienced low trt for themselves …. Put a sock in it

[@MmeDesgranges]

You right bro

[@etfremd]

Hi John! Impressive therapy getting Free T to 20! I can’t find anywhere with how many mg’s are you taking weekly? I’d pound the weights and sprints and get jacked. Book a ticket to the Philippines and find a 20 year old to keep you happy! That’s my plan. Just started daily injections yesterday. I think evenings are best because the cyp takes 10-12 hours to peak and that corresponds with the daily diurnal rhythm of T. I hope it fixes any raised hemocrit or hemoglobin issues. I donate blood regularly anyway.

[@40OverFashion]

I’m taking roughly 125 mg weekly.

[@mlaycox]

I'm on my 8th week of TRT and HCG. I was wondering if you think your weight loss was due to TRT. How about your strength and motivation?

[@40OverFashion]

Weight loss was a separate issue. Energy and motivation have increased, but keep in mind, TRT is not going to instantly change you into Superman. :)

[@MmeDesgranges]

@@40OverFashion In fact unless you have low T, TRT will do nothing except maybe give you sides.

[@grinchproductions6547]

Please keep us posted on your trt journey. I'm convinced I am in need of this therapy. I am 55 and exhausted within a few hours of waking up. Dr said testosterone level is normal at 340? I watch my diet, use to hit the gym can no longer do so because of no energy, Feels like I'm dying a slow death and dont like it so these videos are very helpful.

[@MmeDesgranges]

At 55 a level of 340 is normal. With TRT you could get that up to say 500-550 and potentially feel better. But unless you feel crap, why risk side effects?

[@kfl611]

I'm not a doctor, but I'm just thinking 340 might be perfectly normal for one person aged 55 and very low for another person aged 55. I'd speak to my doctor, and see if you need to be at a higher level. Perhaps 340 is low for you and not for someone else. You have to go by how you feel, not necessarily just on what a bunch of numbers say.

[@00dfm00]

I am shocked they gave a range of up to 60 with hematocrit. The upper end should be in the low 50s. Ideally you should be high 40s. Guaranteed your blood pressure is up with such thick blood, which is detrimental to the kidneys as well.

[@MmeDesgranges]

You right bro

[@doyourbest7655]

So, not a weight lifter, but keen on feeling better with a positive attitude. The TRT therapy is interesting because of when you are older, you start from a lower number and are just not enthusiastic about much of anything. Not much to put you off your game. Getting active because of the artificial bump in testosterone can get you started, and that can lead to more natural testosterone production. At least that is the theory.

[@40OverFashion]

Absolutely!

[@Mike----]

Hey John, well done losing weight. I'm working on it too. My doctor put me on a Whole 30 type of diet for 3 months. It's actually working. I still have to find some time to get back to the gym though. If I could buy a couple extra hours a day I'd probably do it.

[@40OverFashion]

Let’s make it happen Mike!

[@keithosorio6301]

I’ve been on trt for five years. About four years ago I switched my protocol to injecting subcutaneously every other day. I can’t tell you how much better this protocol has been. First, no big needles and no pain at all. Second, I avoid the spikes and troughs. Even if you don’t think you are having issues with ups and downs, you are. Best of luck!

[@40OverFashion]

Interesting Keith! Another friend of mine is doing something similar. He’s using insulin needles and they’re so much smaller.

[@keithosorio6301]

@@40OverFashion Yup. The insulin syringes are so tiny that you can’t feel the shot. Plus, you aren’t stabbing the same muscle over and over again. Drawing the fluid into the small syringe takes a couple of minutes, but I feel fantastic on the steady dose. Doing the once weekly IM injection also makes the lab work trickier. If you test the day after you inject, your TT and FT will be very high. If you test right before you inject, the values will be lowish. Tough to dial in the best dose. When you inject every other day, everything is relatively steady. Also, there is some good research that sub q is better than IM. Anyway, if you’re method is working, good for you!

[@etfremd]

@@keithosorio6301really the only thing better is a daily injection. Do it in the evening before bed and the peak after the injection occurs 10-12 hours later matching the natural diurnal rhythm.

[@XanderJudd24]

I’ve gained loads of good stuff from you. Being forced to replace my wardrobe after significant weight loss, finding your videos was timely for me. I don’t really care about impressing anyone, but the compliments keep rolling in. I continue to receive comments like ‘you are sure looking great with your keen sense of fashion’ (or something like that). It’s changed my life for the better. Keep it up, John.

[@40OverFashion]

Thank you!

[@melbman43]

You keep it up also, but yes, isn't it great when those comments come.

[@TL....]

i dont have sound right now, but how long until you started to feel happier, more energetic etc ?

[@iAmEdwinHamilton]

I go to get my bloodwork done with PETERMD this week as well. I’m 47 and since was around 41, I have seen myself decline body wise, mentally, socially etc… I have to eat perfectly and workout to even get minor weight loss results. I know I have low T and I’m gonna fix it. My next 40 years will be way better than my last 6-7 years

[@kfl611]

That's the spirit !

[@melbman43]

Are you familiar with Richard Cooper John? Most guys on here would be I have no doubt. He has gone into this in great detail. The one question you need to ask your Dr regards to your T results " what was the same score for a male my hight and weight 20 years ago? Apparently, they lower the scores every year

[@40OverFashion]

Yes, I am familiar with him, but I haven’t seen any of his videos about TRT.

[@joehoffrage]

John, what about a video segment, or series even, of you interviewing some guys who’ve undergone a hair transplant, both FUE and FUT, as I’m sure with a bunch of your followers over 40 that many of us are dealing with male pattern baldness; I bring this up because I just had a consultation today and learned a lot about it, and thought it was interesting, but was taken aback by the cost; but it would be interesting to talk to these people and see if was worth it to them, did they get the results they wanted, etc.

[@oakpark66]

My testosterone came back around 100 I’m 42 and am waiting on my first cycle of meds now couldn’t imagine anyone wanting to feel like I do when there’s options to feel better

[@40OverFashion]

Absolutely!

[@daviddavid1057]

Great video! A question: was your blood taken at the peak or in a trough, so I mean right before the next administration or not?? Thanks

[@40OverFashion]

If I remember, it was 5 days after the shot.

[@daviddavid1057]

​@@40OverFashionThanks for your response! 👍🏻 And what was exactly your TRT protocol? How many mg per week and how many injections per week?

[@MmeDesgranges]

@@40OverFashion Mid-cycle. That's the right time to do it.

[@stevecarter2876]

#Legend I have a blood condition Heamochromotosis, which is the body producing too much iron (the opposite condition to being anemic) The hospital will draw a pint of blood when my levels are too high, but as the blood is considered 'tainted' it just gets destroyed

[@MmeDesgranges]

And so will John's blood when he gives it. They can't use blood with HCT at 0.60, it will just be discarded