432 - Ste Hay | Hollyoaks 25th March 2013 E4

George is heartbroken by Ste's rejection of him.
/ emmettscanlan

[@thewindycity9277]

On of the things that I love about Ste Hay is the fact that he really is the most well developed character in the show. Long before Brendan Brady ever showed up, Ste Hay had already been to hell and back. His character had already been well established and developed long before Brendan's arrival. We must remember, he'd already been on the show four year's, and was very very popular and with a very large fan base. I think one of the reason why his character is so developed, I think the writers saw from the beginning what raw talent they had in Kieron Richardson that they pulled his talents out of him and used him like a work horse. I don't mean work horse in a bad nor negative way, they just put him to good use, and a lot of it. The truth is, no one else can do what Kieron does. No one can rip your heart out like Ste Hay. The writers have given this kid a live of constant tragedy, a life of constant pain and suffering. Truth be told, I just don't know whats holding this boy up? I've watch Steven's story line from the beginning, and all I can say, Ste Hay has had very few good days. That's what I mean by work horse, they keep his life, this character in constant turmoil and confusion and uncertainty. Ste Hay entire life can be defined by continual turbulence, highs and lows. While its true that there are other characters that have been on the show much longer then Ste Hay, you'll be hard pressed to fine one whose character is more developed with so much done to him and with so much time spent on then Ste Hay.

[@jenniferbroto3891]

Okay, as much as I love Ste he is being horrible with poor George. However, Ste is going through a rough time and has enough trouble dealing with his own life without having to be a gay role model for sweet teenage-George. So I forgive him... And he's right, in a way he's doing the right thing for George, he teaches him a lesson: as sweet as you are Georgie, you can't go to bed with the first gay bloke, especially if he is so wasted. You can't trust people just because it is a little village (with a lot of psychos and killers by the way) you can't trust people without Knowing them or you have great chances to get hurt.

[@kendon0923]

I swear it took me 20 minutes to watch this clip. The awkward levels were so high I was pausing every few seconds.

[@Pheelyp]

"I would never normally go anywhere near someone like you anyway." This breaks me. :'(

[@youjaytube]

me too..T-T it felt like George is the representation of myself a little. Although, I kept my virginity for decades.

[@BritDixie16]

I can't watch anymore.

[@jckun100]

Poor George he is to innocent for this village, they are going to eat him alive.

[@icehulk2]

Doug is a good friend.

[@robertn800]

I can relate to both Ste and George. When I was a skinny teenager, all gawky, I guess I didn't understand that the first guy you had sex with wasn't your Prince Charming, but more than likely a hook up. But it was a learning experience and as I grew up, i came to realize that sometimes sex is just for fun and sometimes you meet a guy that you want to see again- and see what happens. Thats life, I guess. Hi all, good to be back.

[@SamR1995]

Ste didn't give him a chance, he kissed him and barely let him say he hadn't done this before, Ste thought he meant one night stand. It was lack of communication, but you can't blame just one for what happened. Ste should of said in the morning that nothing else would happen.

[@not2complicated]

We as gay men have it tough We all strive to have a normal relationship with someone because that what we want to feel normal. Treated normally like anyone else. Obviously George made a mistake with to bed with Ste, but neither Ste or Doug for instance knew before they ever had sex. They lived the "Straight" life before they came out. George is going through what many gay youth are going through today But that what everyone does. We all make and have to make mistakes to figure out who we are.

[@giuventino1]

exactly, it's not bad comunication, their problem was they had never had comunication at all. you don't go and have your first time like that if you want it to mean something otherwise I agree with you it's just stupid

[@mrsslojet]

God, Steven you're not Brendan Brady

[@shak15ti]

Thank you uploading!

[@arcticvoth]

spot on! can't type too much more. still crying.

[@giuventino1]

this fuels ste's pain ever more and it's not the same as knowing your partner left you, but they are basically safe.

[@TheAccidentalgardener704]

I don't know anything about this character George but Ste could have been a little more sensitive to the boy. I understand the pain that Ste is going through however Ste know how it felt when Brendan treated him like crap so why treat some poor young man like that. I hope the writers do better with Ste's character.because my heart went out to George.

[@cabrera052010]

thank you so much for posting I'm so glad you're still continuing to post after brendan...I'm happy and relieved again thank you so much.

[@SamR1995]

I think that and he has grown up since then, and since the loss of his friends and the argument with Phoebe he probably felt more lonely. He needed comfort that night just as much as Ste.

[@J2luverSPN]

Ste is being a jerk and I LOVE IT ! Dark!Ste is awesome

[@2kiers10]

A WORD! I've always loved this space, created and kept alive by esf, to speak your heart about the one and only Brendan Brady and his whereabouts right as it happened. I enjoy reading comments and making the occasional one myself. Beeing probably one of soo many, who had their hearts ripped right out last week, still feeling out of breath a bit, I find little encouragement in recent endless back and forth battle of opinion by the same people, that drowns the usual diversity in inputs I love

[@Chrisphill02]

George was drunk too. He said so when they walked into Ste's house, then he proceeded to have 3 more. Neither were in a position to handle decisions so they had sex. Ste was sober when he treated George like this, no excuse for hitting another person. Especially in anger. Thank God Amy left with the kids so they couldn't see their daddy do that.

[@TheChrolli]

I am proud of Ste he is becming A brendan Brady number 2

[@Frichinfair]

I feel sorry for George but I understand why Ste is acting this way, he has only one thing in mind and it's Brendan

[@SamR1995]

Nicely put :)

[@Babyt4]

Well Ste handled that horribly :(

[@wayne4829]

ESF...thx for the upload.

[@333br]

I find it cute cute that George dresses up like Louis from One Direction... :3

[@greymushroom1]

thank you

[@PedroLopez-cl7be]

EMMETT WE CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT YOU!!!

[@Fafounee]

ooooh ! poor George i got a little teary at the end

[@thewindycity9277]

I'm so damn tired of people bringing up the fact that Brendan beat up Ste. News flash! That was the whole point of this story line, Its about domestic abuse. Brendan's beating of Ste was not without its point and purpose. Secondly, Ste sticking with Brendan wasn't a reflection of some kind of weakness in him, but rather his strength in standing by the man he loved. Why? Because he saw more value and worth and potential in Brendan then the pain he was receiving. Brendan was worth fighting for. That's why at the end of that day, its Ste call, and no one else's. Its not always true, that people who put up with violent lover's are some how weak or even stupid. Sometimes they see things in that person no one else can see nor possibly know and understand. I for one love Ste for standing by Brendan. Amy never understood what Ste saw in Brendan, and she wrongly faulted Ste for it. To the end, to this very day, she never understood Ste's love for Brendan. The truth is, she couldn't understand it, because she never loved anyone ( Not even Steven ) so deeply and unconditionally as Ste with Brendan. In fact, Ste's love for Amy was always more stronger, then her, for him. She has always been a source of his pain in one way or the other. She never really truly forgiven Ste for the beatings he gave her, which he was so clearly repentant of. It always broke his heart that he could have done that to her, but she always used that against him, to get whatever she wanted. I use to love Amy, and thought she was such a positive force in his life. I no longer believe that. She was all about controlling him, and she did that through their kids and reminding him of the physical abuse he caused her. The physical abuse he received from Brendan was never the main reason he left him. It was more about Brendan not being true to himself, about who he really was. Ste just figured out who he really was faster then Brendan, and was no longer willing to hide in the shadows in shame any longer. In fact he told Brendan that. He said: You better think about where you'er going from here, Cause I know where I'm going, and its not back into the shadow's. Not for anyone. That then was the major turning point in Steven's life. He knew then, he could never hide who he really was. I love Ste Hay !

[@marilenlao6635]

i agree totally. Ste Hay is the bravest and truest character in ho. He is not afraid to love and not afraid to hate too.

[@deadmanzz15]

where is the next one?????

[@chefjuliakeene1982]

It's been less than a week and I'm already over Hollyoaks without Brendan Brady. How could they possibly hope to hold our attention now? That's the saddest part of good actors on soaps...they never stay very long.

[@msceddichika]

ste was always like this its just magnifoed because he's hurting over the loss of brendan but if brendan ever did anything he brought out the best in ste.

[@arcticvoth]

absolutely! and i believe that ste could always see this, just as cheryl could.

[@the420man72]

Ste and george are cute will have faith ste will return to his goofy loving self again

[@kendon0923]

Ste says virgin like it's the height of insults. And the way he says virginity it hilarious. Vi-gi-i-eh-eh.

[@hopeangeleyes1]

I just started watching the re- runs myself! Hurray fir Emmettscanlanfans! She'll get more views now! Woohoo! xxx

[@giuventino1]

me too! I think we have an interesting sl to look forward with ste if the writers go on down this route

[@SamR1995]

I meant as in he got with someone who initially rejected him or in his case was treated badly in the early days, he should know how it feels to be in the 'weaker' position. George didn't throw himself at him Ste made the first move and after his argument with Phoebe he wanted companionship and Ste gave him that. Don't forget George is still a teenager, despite his previous rocky relationship with Ryan, George doesn't know what to do or expect. He isn't completely innocent, but moreso than Ste.

[@georgiagcd]

I'm not judging :) And I am also not judging Ste, I have been through the experience of losing someone that is more important to you than yourself, so I sympathize A LOT with Ste

[@Persigame]

Dear show, bring Brendan back pretty quickly before I break my tv, ok?

[@BikingWithColdWater]

If these videos stop now that Emmett is off the show, what is a backup channel for following Ste's storyline? (Thanks for bringing us the story, emmettscanlan!)

[@SuperOMGDUDe]

I so did not see this coming...

[@giuventino1]

I'm always late, but I just read stendan won the forbidden lovers award. congrats to the actor and the writers!

[@Juliamby88]

I've always loved George I really feel for him in this episode.

[@jadoogarify]

I can't understand how people hate Ste and blame him ... he is suffering so bad.. he is lonely and need help ... his condition is aweful and this is George who did the wrong thing in the wrong time with the wrong man !!!!!

[@greymushroom1]

yea it was in that bucket that ste threw. george is always sweet, dont know how he will be now, i just hope the writers dont ruin him.

[@SamR1995]

I'm really not just blaming Ste, I personally just think that he's more to blame despite them both doing the wrong thing. And there are no victims, I just feel more for George than I do for Ste right now and that's just my opinion. Plus people break up everyday, Ste's break up with Brendan doesn't justify how he was with George in the deli and that's mainly why I stick with George in this situation.

[@sugarlisx]

I can't get over that We won't be seeing brendan anymore, it makes my heart ache! I really hope he agrees to come back at some

[@giuventino1]

and that just reminded me ste's speech in the last scene with brendan

[@SamR1995]

That's a good point but being in the same village most people are bound to know each other to some degree and I don't think George was expecting anything like that to happen, he genuinely wanted to help.

[@mikex7277]

I never want to say this, but after reading some comments below, I have to say. For those people who's saying that Ste doesn't have to take responsibility and did nothing wrong, the REAL reason is because you guys just think George is not hot enough for Ste. If it was someone really really hot, you guys must be the first say they should be together.

[@SamR1995]

It's a completely new situation for him though, and the first time is important, and George made a mistake and he knows that now, but Ste could have made him leave anytime despite his drunken situation and plus George went through some horrible experiences, which is why he's more vulnerable and naïve.

[@lure4ever21]

No it's just that since the last video posted, there hasn't been any scenes with Ste so far. Tvmogel08 has today and yesterdays eps but no Ste on screen until next week I believe.

[@arcticvoth]

lol. nearly choked on food when i read this. how totally true. it's not totally shallow...

[@twinklestarr5711]

I love Ste n George! I need them together!!!!!!

[@hannariel]

Said no one EVER. You're the first person.

[@alwaysuseless]

Thanks. You're right the comment is Brendan would be heartbroken, not he should be heartbroken. But then the comment continues "cuz be would know he's the cause." That's where I disagree. Brendan would not know he's the cause. He might *believe* he's the cause. Believing is not the same as knowing. Brendan's actions provided a stimulus, the response to which is Ste's responsibility. I'm assuming that "Ste being like this" refers to Ste's treatment of George. That is hardly Brendan's doing.

[@georgiagcd]

I hear ya and I feel ya

[@futureidol83]

Exactly, Ste was always a "bad boy" if you've seen his early years. But most Stug fans only know the fake Ste when he was with Doug. But Ste had a whole criminal past and anger issues they don't know about including abusing Amy. When Ste was with Brendan (not the violent moments of course) it was the best version of Ste because he was truly happy and Brendan taught him to be himself. Without Brendan he's reverted to his teenage self and is lost again.

[@SamR1995]

I don't understand how people can say that George asked for it, after everything he went through, his insecurities with his ex boyfriend plus all the drama with almost being raped; of course that's going to affect you and he placed his trust in Ste. Now George has to face the consequences over something he genuinely thought could work after being hesitant about it for so long and rather than being helped is trampled on. Ste should know what George feels like being in a similar situation.

[@dancingsnake263]

I used to not be a believer but there is no one that comes together better than Stendan. I cant see Ste and Doug ever being together again. It's either Stendan, or it wont feel right.

[@CaatchMeIfIFall]

"GET IN THERE" hahahah xD

[@Blahblah129237]

I can't stop laughing at Ste's face when he wakes up and finds George in bed with him. I do feel kinda bad for George, but he did see Ste drinking a the pub, at the dock and he and ste both were drinking when they gotback to Ste's apartment. George knew Ste was drunk and he slept with him anyway, so i don't feel too bad for George.

[@2kiers10]

- that off my chest, what I’d really like to say is, how great I think it is, to finally again watch Kieron show, how versatile he can actually be, in his portrayal of Ste, if the writers just gives him a chance. I’ve missed him a bit these last few weeks, to add soul into the Stendanship. I blame the writers, really, and of course Emmett, who blows EVERYBODY out of the water.

[@hugyface]

Thank You for clearing that up for me Also I have a question "What is the name of the music when Steven and Brendan are in the pub in Ireland"?

[@SamR1995]

The fact is Ste made the first move, George accepted it and that's that. Yes he's gutted over Brendan but that does not justify the way he was with George.

[@SamR1995]

Well George is around 17/18 so he's not really an adult yet, but Ste has had a lot of experience especially in the last couple of years and sometimes he was a victim to Brendan, he should know what he's doing and how he affects other people despite being drunk, you don't accidently sleep with someone just after your boyfriend has gone to prison however much comfort you want.

[@terreythomas9829]

Poor Georgie boy, it's really sad for your first time to turn out like that. He's really sweet and deserved some tenderness..................... and yes i know that Ste is not in a place where he can give that to someone but he didn't need to be so venomous either.

[@SamR1995]

I'm around George's age and being gay is hard enough never mind trusting someone to lose something that is important to them. It does show that not everything is perfect but George didn't deserve the verbal abuse from Ste.

[@erna20130212]

I love ste and doug ...love love love

[@giuventino1]

sometimes when you're hurting so much it's difficult to think about other people feelings, I don't blame him tbh.

[@munash2]

I'll keep the faith! He will be back i believe :D

[@justmoijah]

Oh George, I feel so bad for him, he's so lovely :(

[@SamR1995]

He does need comfort but he's pushing people away like Doug who is trying to help. And again he made the first move by kissing George.

[@futureidol83]

I love dark Ste. Brilliant acting from Kieron these past few episodes. But I do feel for poor George.

[@Shelter301993]

Poor George, I don't know him so much, but he really seems like a nice guy.

[@lillys78]

This is typical Ste. I love that the character hasn't changed from the original scally he once was. I feel bad for George. It's a painful lesson to learn. Hopefully he'll be better for it. I do look forward to watching Ste crash and burn. He does it so well. Doug being so nice is kinda making me sick. He needs to grow a set.

[@hopeangeleyes1]

While we are waiting for Ste to come back, i thought of this poem song for Stendan! Jere it goes! Ste and Brendan, sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g! First comes the kiss, then comes the fist, then they make up and do it all over again! Just thought of it for fun! Bored without my Stendan! I miss yous my boo!

[@yanssel5964]

Where's the other episode?? AnyOne can share to me!??please

[@SamR1995]

Oh I remember completely, I started watching in 2007 at the start of the McDean storyline just before Ste became a regular character, yes he was awful but between the birth of Lucas and Brendan's arrival, Ste was actually becoming a nicer guy.

[@greymushroom1]

the episode haven't even started yet and I am laughing...this is going to turn out so bad, I can tell.

[@greymushroom1]

i know right >.< so upset.

[@greymushroom1]

yes, he was completely just naive and off his knockers. exactly, you see why I was like wtf with him doing this and his reaction was just. omgosh I felt the secondhand embarrassment for him.

[@georgiagcd]

Well, this persons is not saying Brendan SHOULD feel guilty, this person is saying he WOULD, because that's how Brendan's mind work and by now we can agree that he really would feel responsible.

[@giuventino1]

despite what he told and I don't recall it, he was not because he decided to accompany him home exaclty because ste was drunk and he was not, in fact look at how differently ste and george acted, ste was clearly drunk while george was perfectly sober, he was also asking for info about brendan to know if he was out of the picture. he was with phiby having a normal conversation while ste was just thrown out of the pub. he probably said that to impress ste

[@msceddichika]

PREACH!

[@alwaysuseless]

Um, not to draw too fine a line of distinction, but Brendan is the object of Ste's grief; how Ste handles it is his own doing.

[@greymushroom1]

not on this channel no, you have to go on another channel since this is for bb and aftermath with ste.

[@SamR1995]

It wasn't abuse George was giving though, I just wouldn't call him an idiot he made a mistake and that's not idiocy. It is universal and I get opinions are going to be different. I just think Ste despite his situation should know better than to shout at someone younger than him about knowing their night together was.

[@mikex7277]

First of all, George took Ste back to Ste's home because Ste was so drunk; 2nd, it was Ste who made the first move, not George; 3rd, George told Ste he never had done it before, and Ste told him to TRUST HIM; there is absolutely no way George took Ste's advantage here. In your theory, If one of them was a girl, it would be George. I love Kieron Richardson, but his character here is a jerk. If you couldn't see this, it's fine. It just means we have different philosophies.

[@alwaysuseless]

Thanks! Sometimes I annoy by pointing out the fallacious logic of someone's comment, who in turn takes it personally, even though we don't even know each other.

[@giuventino1]

exactly!

[@44Michellef]

Where are the new videos EmmettJScanlan fan?

[@SamR1995]

I can agree there, but maybe George did genuinely believe something was there, either way it wasn't going to happen, George deserves an actual relationship though and Ste needs some time alone relationship wise.

[@hopeangeleyes1]

Ok guys, again, just foe fun! I updated my fun Stendan song! This is much better! Here it goes...Brendan and Ste, sitting in the tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g! First comes a kiss, then comes the fist, it's in how they make up, i truly love and miss! LOVE STENDAN! COME BACK TO US! We are suffering like hell! Dam, i really do miss them together! Wish they would make an x-rated movie together! BOOM!!!

[@davidsmiths6731]

where can i find doug and jp

[@georgiagcd]

Yes he had, but his returning to his old self is a result of the LOSS, loss of BB and loss of his kids, Amy and Cheryl. Ste has never been this alone and lost before. To say this is Brendan's influence is a simplistic explanation.

[@takata98]

Yes! George finally saw action! interesting thing is that Callum was interested enough to be excited for George and wanted to gossip about the details. I do feel bad for George though Ste is so horrible to him now reality has kicked in!

[@georgiagcd]

I agree that assigning blame for Brendan or Ste's kids is not fair. Especially since is something they have no control over. The intensity of Ste's love and consequently the intensity of his pain is not their doing. Ste is responsible for his actions, but, excluding crime, I don't think is fair to expect rational behavior from Ste now, let alone expect him to move on and start a new relationship (In case of George's expectations)