4570 GOVT - shooting baseballs!!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

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[@willjenkins6417]

WHO_TEE_WHO have you done anything with a .444 marlin. I want that to be my next lever action rifle

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I never have yet, but i would love to!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Heyo Robert! Always fun shooting random odd targets

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Ha! You might just go to jail for that one!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Robert! Believe it or not i happened upon this 4570 for half off clearanced at walmart

[@chrismarshall4653]

If you hit a large game animal with a hollow point and you hit it in a bone it will deflect in fragment if you hit it with a solid or hard cast bullet it will pass through the bone completely destroying the bone and hitting the internal organ

[@xiaopeiyu2137]

Go look at wound channels on ballistic gelatin. Even though most hollow points or ballistic tips are "rapidly expanding" they still take a few inches of penetration before it starts to fragment and shed mass. 99% of the time on elk or deer sized game that means it penetrates first shoulder, fragments through the vitals and them stop short or against the farside shoulder. You want a bullet to expend 100% of its energy I side the body cavity. Clean pass throughs are "wasted" energy. At least at reasonable ranges. If your shooting 1,000 yards yeah you'll need every bit of energy left used to penetrate and not expand

[@NorthWestCavalryman]

That worked out much like I suspected it would. Cowboy action loads are extremely light as they are used for competitions where the only goal is to hit a steel target and the timer is tripped when the shot goes off, not when it hits. Most people like soft loads as it aids in quick follow-up shots and there is no need to beat yourself up. Now I have HSM Bear loads for walking in the woods as I live in the Great Bear Rain Forest (That's grizzly country). You should follow up this video with one of those on a baseball.

[@rschris]

Another Awesome video !! Thanks for posting, I watch and re-watch them all the time. Very enjoyable we have similar taste and would be great friends if we were neighbors!! Keep them coming, bro !!

[@icorezx14r]

The Hornady's are heavily R&Ded hunting loads with a soft tip for the tube fed rifle. The expansion is awesome!

[@garyleesteinbrecher8837]

45-70 I think, is the most fun gun I ever owned! Thanks for vids!

[@R32R38]

145 years old and still going strong!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yes indeed!

[@michaelghareeb5058]

So you don't think the 45-70 will go anywhere anytime soon. I just bought my henry 45-70, and I love it

[@unclemikeb]

The Hornady was engineered to have rapid expansion. That is why you saw what happened? You get pointed round for flat trajectory but as soon as it encounters resistance it blossoms. And that is with a lighter round than the others!

[@QSasquatch]

The entry whole on the Hornady baseball was because of tearing from higher velocity. The bullet DID NOT start expanding yet!

[@grandelfe]

Your channel is fun, and shooting things is even more fun.

[@imhappyandyou.4003]

@4:16 God bless you!. LOL Also I honestly didn't know that you had Rattlers where you were. Please stay safe out there alright!?. Thanks again WTW it's always a joy watching you shoot. 🙏

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup. Not many rattlers, but seen them from time to time

[@kennethblevins6172]

Do not ever stop making your video's, you enlightin my day and even make me laugh with casual way of talking THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Kenneth

[@kennethblevins6172]

@@WHOTEEWHO NO**#! THANK YOU SIR, I LOVE YOUR VIDEO'S A DOWN TO EARTH COUNTRY BOY DOING WHAT HE LOVES, AND YOUR DANG GOOD AT IT. 👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

@@kennethblevins6172 🙏🙏🙏

[@kennethblevins6172]

@@WHOTEEWHO i own several rifles including the 4570 gov. But my favorite of all time was when i was a teen ager im 67 now i had a 220 swift that was an all around killing machine whethet it was deer or ground hogs with open sights if i could see it it was in the bag, but after a few yrs of heavy use the barrel burnt out and traded it for a 218 BEE, I HAVE OFTEN THOUGHT OF HOW ACCURATE THAT LIL RIFLE WAS UP TO 300 YDS , YOUR VIDEOS ARE EDUCATIONAL AND FUN TO WATCH, YOUR DEMEANOR AND DOWN TO EARTH WAY OF GETTING TO THE POINT IS GREAT, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR JUST BEING YOU 👌

[@craigpennington1251]

Today's baseballs are made completely different than the ones we used in 1965 and earlier. Love the 45/70s.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Gotta love 4570!!!

[@robertedunn4874]

the CAS load is only doing about 800 FPS; and read up on the bullet performance from Hornady you'll see why it was so effective

[@bhud1972]

Man you have some great videos! With all that land, you’re getting to do some of the coolest experiments with rifles! We are all curious and living vicariously through you and your great videos!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Really appreciate you watching!

[@toddcook4491]

How about a Buffalo Bore 405 grain that is actually moving fast compared to the rounds you tested?

[@montanalivin8248]

I use the 30-30 160gn. Hornady Lever Revolution round. It has taken my rifle to a whole new level...

[@pallmall5495]

I have handloaded 30-30 for years with btsp,and just turned my rifle into a 2 shooter.I do like this Lever revolution ammo

[@MuzzleMike]

I keep trying to shoot base balls with my rifle . The BB keeps bouncing off of it ! I think I need to give it a couple more pumps .

[@MuzzleMike]

I did shoot an orange with a 16 gauge once . Made orange juice . Upset my friend . He did not get a turn to shoot it. It was a slow day rabbit hunting .

[@WHOTEEWHO]

😆😆😆

[@williammiller2307]

Everyone knows you got to use a quality pellet to get any penetration. Got many a squirrels with pellets. Just pump till you can't pump it without blowing the thing up lol.

[@enterthehunter7336]

Rev. MuzzleMike Big Bore go big or go home if you're already at home you can use it there too an air gun is an air gun they are much less restricted as to where you can operate them than a firearm.

[@markamsberg4159]

Another fun to watch video ! I didn't think that HSM would make a big hole thought it would have sent it flying like a home run ball. I got really good results every time I've shot the Hornady Lever Revolution. I have the H&R Buffalo Classic and those are the most accurate rounds I've ever used !

[@billsutherland7486]

Yep, it’s not surprising the hunting rounds were more destructive at 3” penetration. The 405 hard cast bullet is meant to pass through a very large mass of bone and still have a butt load of remaining energy to pulverize internal organs. The 300 and 305 grain bullets are meant for longer shots on smaller game, whereas the 405 is meant to drop a bear, buffalo, or moose in their tracks. Good fun, great video!

[@darrellblake799]

Hard cast is made for penetration. No such thing as small entry hole with a 45-70 LOL.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thats true! 😆 thanks Darrell!

[@twshawgo]

yep bone breaker is what that hard cast is for. big bear round

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I would love to go bear hunting sometime! Thanks Tim!

[@darrellblake799]

I have bears trying to den under my cabin in the Va. mtns. I watch these things from my deer stands. I don't bear hunt so I think they are not afraid of my smell. Had them on deer cams even had them take a deer out of back of my truck but didn't see one of them for the first ten years I hunted there. Now when I go out it is no surprise when I see them

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Oh wow. I have never even seen a bear in my life. We do not have any near our area

[@mikesowder2597]

Man you really hit this one out of the park.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

😆😆😆 nice one

[@Backyardmech1]

This round brought down buffalo. It’s a hard round to deny even now. It packs some punch.

[@lomoholga]

And the 45-70 comes in way more powerful rounds today than in its black powder days

[@troywilderness2459]

Reason for the different results the first two baseballs is that the law in most States is that you must use expanding bullets in rifles/hanguns the first two were expanding bullets and I could rewind but I do believe that the third round fired was a hard cast lead slug, which is a none expanding projectile leading to the popular belief that non expanding bullets mean a slower death to the animal

[@motoputz3201]

HSM "cowboy action" ...a lot of smoke, low recoil and just for show

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks motoputz!

[@motoputz3201]

WHO_TEE_WHO Thanks for the video, it’s cool

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching!

[@QSasquatch]

Fun plinking rounds....

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Sweet shooting! I've love to be able to shoot a baseball at 25 yards! They are pretty small my friend! LOL. Thanks for sharing........

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey ive seen you do tackdriving! Those are much smaller than a baseball!😆

[@TurdFergusson318]

Just got my 1845 SBL last week and can’t stop watching 45-70 videos. Out of all the tacticool shit I’ve bought before, you just can’t replace history.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Gotta love the 4570!

[@dross1492]

The Hornady load has much more velocity than the other 2. Cowboy loads by definition are lower velocity. Given the age of certain 4570 loads many commercial are low pressure.

[@brucerickey8328]

I have the BFR in 4570 and you are going to love it. I have a Trijicon 3 mao triagular aim point for a sight. Use the top of your triangle for 50 yards the whole thing closer and the base of the sight gives 3moa elevation reference for longer shots. I shoot the leverrevolutions through it with no problems. Wicked damage on armadillos and I have killed a pig with it too. You do need to practice at various ranges outside. On indoor range only resting the base of the handle I can get 5 round groups of 3/4 inch.

[@troycrites3894]

You are correct, CAS are loaded light , for the shooting contests they use. The 45.70 also comes in with 500+ gr weights as well

[@GunDoctorTV]

One of these days I’m gonna own myself a 45-70. Hands down one of my favorite rounds. Great video brother!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks gundoc! I happenned upon a great deal on this one

[@GunDoctorTV]

WHO_TEE_WHO awesome it’s always cool to find a deal. I want a BFR from magnum research💪🇺🇸💪

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Meeee too! Seriously that is my next gun. Saving up some $ and getting wife approval 😆

[@GunDoctorTV]

WHO_TEE_WHO I like your style sir 😂

[@alanperryman9999]

I still have several bowling pins and those are very hard to put a hol in. I shot one with 30-30 @25yds ,cant remember what grain . Surprisingly it didn't do much damage, the 223 needless to say barely did anything either. I got them from a bowling alley ,they throw away the old bowling pins so sometimes they give them away or sell them cheap . Each box has a dozen pins and they're fun to shoot, smaller caliber has a tendency to ricochet though

[@steverivera4916]

The cowboy bullets don't expand, that's why the exit hole was almost the same size as the entry hole. These would be great for larger varmint hunting (if you don't have a 22 cal rifle available), if you want to use the hide for making something out of it (in other words, not destroy the hide) and/or if you want to keep the majority of the meat.

[@carlkoepp1112]

The cowboy action rounds are meant for cowboy action shooting competitions so to gain the accuracy and show needed, they have to go with the minimum grains of powder allowed for that competition; very similar to trap and skeet comp rules. All comp shoot rounds have to be factory certified loads to compete; no personal reloads. Still a fun round to shoot and is my all-time favorite.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍

[@richardfinney8784]

Big difference in bullet density and velocity who- tee, plus the leverevolution round is a huge hollow point filled by the flex tip. That's why it devestated the baseball more. My favorite round for hunting is the Hornadys .great video Sir

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Richard!

[@johnmazza5918]

The HSM are hard alloy lead designed to resit deformation on impact and just penetrate deeply. There is slower energy transfer over a longer distance. It's a trade-off. Now, if you want to really launch a baseball, get a .458 Winchester Magnum and load it with 350 grain soft points, or a .50 BMG loaded with, well, anything. The .458 will send it off the property, and the BMG will send it into the next county.

[@Oldsoldiersays]

won a 458 win mag in a drinking game back in the army, said i couldn't shoot it 1 hand with my off hand and not drop it or hurt myself. I was 165lbs. I prevailed. Just recently sold it after 20 years. Only fired it like 5 times in those 20 years. Fucker hurt.

[@richardburnett2589]

The leverevolution is a hollow point with a soft tip insert. It blew out the ball the way it did because you hit it low. The 300 he jhp entered clean because it was a center mass shot, the exit is exactly what you should expect from that bullet. The 405gr hard cast C.A. did exactly what it should do... It's a hard cast bullet, it's not meant to deform, just pass through. Also, cowboy action means it's loaded light... It's meant for target shooting, not for hunting.

[@earlblackjackmartinjr5750]

I have 2 mag research BFRs. 10inch barrels. 500mag an 4570, a buffalo classic 4570 an lever 4570. Buffalo shoots really well with 32inch barrel. I have 3030, 444,450, 35rem, 4570 lever actions. Like all of them.

[@garyalensr]

I need a 45-70. I love me a 45-70 lever gun. Great video and Shootin

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Gary! I need to do some more 30-30 shooting too

[@BonedGolfandFish]

Put those lever action Hornady's in my S&W 627pc 5 inch. Most the home defence .357 rounds give me a decent amount of muzzle flip but those lever action rounds punch right in the palm. Always puts a smile on my face

[@mrsubase]

Ok. The leverevolution round is actually a hollow point cause the rubber tip used to prevent loading tube detonation goes away on impact. Also that round is hotter than hell. I could have told you it would do the most damage. The 404 grain bullet did the least damage as I would have expected. See anytime you out 400 or 500 grain bullets on a 45-70 the chamber pressure goes way up. So, normally the ammo companies soft load the round a bit to keep people from blowing their heads off. So actually it had the slowest muzzle velocity. Capish?

[@jameskennedy6982]

What did you expect? HSM loads GREAT ammo, the CAL load is down loaded, for obvious reasons, and is a solid bullet.... NO EXPANSION, SLOW MOVING, LOW RECOIL. Built for multiple shooting scenarios, NOT FOR HUNTING!!! I'm looking at their product list, they have 3 other loadings, including a 430gr hard lead "bear load" @1801fps. Your CAL load is listed @1300FPS, fully 500fps slower. They also list a 350gr A- Frame at 2050fps.

[@crazylikeafox1000]

The 405 hard cast are made for deep penetration, bear skin, fat, muscle hide, thick bone. On into vitals .The 325 HP are made to make a big hole and only half the penetration of the 405. Love my 45-70! I use 325gr for medium game, but take the 405 in back country. Probably wouldn’t hurt to alternate rounds in the magazine.

[@Leonardokite]

Yup, {singing} ridiculous!!!! Way to many innuendos and I just don't want to go there. Funny little video there. Bring on the 50 BMG! Whoteewhooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🖒🖒😆😆😆

[@willjenkins6417]

My third video of watching your videos. Love your down to earth and just having fun style. Keep it up.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thank you Will! Those kind words are greatly appreciated!

[@tboda2621]

I really enjoy Who Tee and this ain't no back down to that AT ALL! But, the comments that it seems are always there about being down to earth, and genuine really puzzle me. It's not like the guys who do these videos are English Grand Dukes, so we should be amazed that they act so down to earth. Like I said, I really like watching Who Tee, and he does a great job...but I cant understand any amazement at his down to earth, genuineness. I'm just sayin...

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks T Boda!

[@michaelgallagher7696]

I wish I had video of the muley we shot this year with the Winchester X. It was .243. This was number 5 deer, and one elk, with this ammo. It will not exit the animal, imparts all the energy within the animal, and has resulted in instant kills (with proper shot placement). Not real accurate, too much lead tip, but good short range hunting ammo. If you want to watch a great movie, showing the .45-70, watch "Wind River" on Netflix.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks I'll check it out

[@brandongrant6004]

What are the velocities of the loads used. I just bought an NEF handi-rifle with a .45-70 barrel, and I love the cartridge! I know that the 325 grain hornadys are published at 2000 fps. I'm guessing that the others are quite a bit slower from the results.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Not sure

[@Shooter-1924]

I use the 325gr Hornady LeverEvolution in my 1895g for hunting. Whatever it hits goes down quick and hard. From large whitetail to wild boars, it’s a showstopper. It’s a lighter than normal .45-70 load but very high velocity.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome!

[@raymorris1048]

Cowboy action are light loads. Need some of their or Buffalo Bore heavy rounds

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Ray! I have looked at some Buffalo Bore loads, but they are all $3-4 a round! Too expensive tor my budget 😆

[@dimassalazar906]

HSM Bear Loads are pretty reasonable. Buffalo Bore rounds prices make me want to take my chances and knife the critter instead of throwing a expensive bullet at it!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I hear you on that. The Buffalo Bore brand is quite expensive

[@raymorris1048]

I have some HSM loads as well.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Actually had a subscriber send me some HSM, buffalo bore, and grizzly 4570 loads. Uploaded some videos last week using a few of them. Love the 4570!!!

[@tomlodge1256]

The 45-70 load you used for this video was listed to shoot at 1300 fps. Typical hunting loads for the 45-70 with 405 grain bullets is roughly 1900 to 2000 fps, so your observational comment of a lightly loaded bullet is correct. However, I use this bullet for hunting, albeit, with pure lead instead of hard cast, and I'd suggest you give it a shot with maybe the buffalo bore. Aloha...

[@darrelgentes1104]

I wonder if HSM bear load 430gr +p RNFP would of made more damage then the HSM 405gr cowboy. I think it would be pretty cool to see the difference and to see the difference between the HSM, Federal, Barnes, Winchester, Hornady and other bands in a milk jugs test

[@billwilliams1842]

I use the 45/70 for deer and with the Hornady red-tip they DO NOT go very far. Great round!

[@tattoo62]

I am very impressed with horaday ftx leverevalution bullets. I get them to reload my 30-30 the 165 gr bullet they seem more accurate for 1 and as far as i can tell they are very close to a hollow point that tip is like rubber so it has to melt or when it hits it disapates . Leaving a small hollow in it.. id like to try the 140 gr bullets for it sometime speed would increase i think.but these are just my thoughts on it . Great video

[@richardhenderson588]

Hard cast bullets are similar to fmj ammo, more penetration and less damage

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup

[@ScareCorpGears]

Got a deer with hard cast 405gn this season, I almost didn't find the exit wound was so small. Only found it after skinning deer.

[@eliferguson3422]

Next time I'm playing in a baseball game, I'll just pull out a 45-70 and blast it so it goes far lol 🤣

[@ShotgunMikey]

Hell yeah 45/70 is bad ass! Yeah hard cast is only really good for hunting stuff with thick skin buffalo brown bear T Rex lol. Where did the ball go in the poison oak of course!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yeah buddy! Of course it went in the poison ivy!

[@stevemiller7433]

I had a Marlin 45-70 Guide gun, just like yours. I loved shooting the Cowboy loads, very light recoil. A bit over 1,000 ft-lbs of energy. They knocked things over, rang the gong. The Leverevolution, not so much fun. The recoil is stout with 3,000 ft-lbs of energy. The 300 grain Winchester's are probably loaded closer to normal pressure as it is a hunting round. This might explain the difference in results.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey Steve! Thanks for watching! the cowboys loads are definitely easier on the shoulder!

[@k1j2f30]

I have been shooting the 45-70 for over 30 years now and have learned a great deal from it. Hard cast lead bullets in this large yet slow (as factory loads are made) speed round will not expand significantly on any target other than something very hard like steal. If you want expansion you need to use soft (pure) pig lead with a paper patch to get this round to mushroom to about the size of a silver dollar! The 45-70 as it was originally intended is a slow but heavy round, there is not enough energy in the factory load to make hard cast lead expand. You can load it up much, much higher in a Marlin or Ruger #1 and the NEW reproductions of the Winchester 1886 because of the modern steal in them. Do Not try to load past SAMI recommended factory loads for the original Springfields or Winchester 1886's or any other antique gun made for this round! This is the reason you SHOULD NOT hunt with hard cast bullets with the 45-70 as it will just poke holes the diameter of the bullet through the game and unless you hit the heart ore a double lung shot the animal will most likely not be recovered and suffer heavily for an extended period. The 45-70 is a "door crasher" when loaded correctly as the inertia of the heavy slug even traveling @ 1300 fps (factory load) will carry it through any North American game animal at reasonable ranges. Love the 45-70!!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Gotta love 4570!

[@t.a.barnett3804]

You don't have poison oak. It is poison ivy. The 5 leaf vine next to the poison ivy is Virginia Creeper.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey thanks! Im no plant expert

[@t.a.barnett3804]

WHO_TEE_WHO, not a problem. Just some advice from an amateur forester and life long outdoors guy. Enjoyed the. 308 and 30-06 baseball video too.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey aporeciate that! I sprayed weed killer out all weekend!

[@soylentgreen7074]

Cowboy action loads are intentionally downloaded for closer targets and fast shots. They have to be all lead because some shots can be so close that jacketing would injure you or damage the targets.

[@gulielmi2002]

I tuned in just to see how much trouble it would be for you to find the baseballs

[@4570govss]

45-70 is also my favorite hunting round, I shoot hand loads with a 250gr. Barnes X Bullet. The hard cast bullet is just to hard to expand and with anything less than a head shot will run away and may or may not die. You need that quick expansion like the Hornady has on game.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Love the 4570. Hoping to take some whitetail with it this year

[@ericletts4072]

I also shoot the 45-70 Marlin, I just love it. There isn't anything that it can't put down. I also shoot 405 grains. You do have to be careful when you buy your ammo those cowboy loads are a little light. Great video, a good two thumbs up !

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Eric! I love the 4570!

[@usptact]

The flat tip round reminds me 9mm FMJ, it just goes through the target with little damage. The two hollow point rounds remind JHP, the penetration is less of concern but does more damage.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup! Thanks for watching!

[@darylehayward5155]

I cast my own 500 grain hard cast bullets with a muzzle velocity of 1650 fps. I shot a doe at about 50 yards . It slipped a rib going in and broke 1 on the exit. She went about 10 yards and dropped over dead. The bullet did not expand, and because of the low velocity you can eat right up to the hole.

[@thomasallen3818]

I’ve shot the cowboy loads and they’re a lot slower. I shoot hand loads that are a little on the hot side. They’re really noticeable in their sound.

[@jtm8779]

Most of the cowboy action rounds are down loaded to black powder pressure for use in older firearms

[@RVAHokie]

Can only speak for .22 mags that Hornady makes, but...... if you look at the ballistic tip, it is basically just a piece of soft plastic molded into a pointed shape which fills the cavity of what is otherwise a hollow point bullet. Serves the purpose of making the bullet a bit more aerodynamic but does little if anything once impact occurs. I have to think (though admittedly I have not taken one apart) that the 45-70 is pretty much the same situation as my little .22wmr. It is therefore unsurprising that it basically exploded that baseball on impact. Any plans to shoot some baseballs or other sporting goods with the usual assortment of little rim fire rounds and see what happens?

[@SWAMPHUNTER644]

That was poison ivy and five leafed Virginia creeper at ball #2. Virginia creeper is non poisonous and the berry is a favorite of grouse, pheasants, and turkeys. Poison oak is a western plant so I'm not familiar with it, not to say there wasn't any there in the video. Virginia creeper likes to climb to the tops of trees.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

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[@danadahlke6943]

The hard cast 45-70 rounds are designed for penetration, not massive devastation at point of impact. Busting through a heavy bone like on a feral hogs shoulder or that of a bear, is critical to putting them down and out. The other rounds you showed are meant to open an immediate sound channel to bleed out smaller animals like deer, so you don't have to track them very far.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

thanks Dana

[@gunman-6646]

You should get some of those green Coleman propane cans to shoot. That might be pretty cool!

[@timsim1940]

I absolutely enjoy watching your videos! Cheers from Canada!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thank you Tim! I appreciate the kind words. Cheers! Anything you want to see next?

[@timsim1940]

WHO_TEE_WHO you're most welcome, sir! Could you do 444 Marlin or a 44-40, 45 colt or 357 Magnum against the baseballs?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Sure thing we have atleast one of those laying around here somewhere 😆 will film it this wknd

[@timsim1940]

WHO_TEE_WHO Awesome!! 😂

[@bruceruttan60]

I'd really like to see the 40-60 come back. A great overall deer cartridge without useless oversized cases based on black powder indulgences. The 40-60 case in a modern high quality design, like what CASULL did with the .454. Would make a great lever gun.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I will have to read up on that one. Thanks Bruce!

[@bboutdooradventures491]

I am turning into quite a big fan of yours. Loving your videos.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Really appreciate that! Looks like a nice gmc in your photo! I had a 1965 that was my absolute dream car. Sold it when we needed some money :(

[@bboutdooradventures491]

WHO_TEE_WHO that was my grandpas car... someday I hope to fix it up.

[@johndemaria9408]

I like the Win. 300 grain . Close range does the job. It would be interesting to see that round around 100- 150 yards. I feel that round maybe a universal round. I bullet for a variety of ranges. Plus , it seems to have minimum damage of good meat damage, yet dropping the deer.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

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[@Bob5mith]

The HSM Cowboy loads are trapdoor safe. They're rated for 1300 fps. HSM makes some levergun rated Bear Loads that have the same bullet but rated at 1600 fps. Buffalo Bore and Grizzly makes some ridiculous lever gun 405 gr. hardcast rated at 1950 fps. and 2000 pfs. respectively. I recommend the Buffalo Bore. The Grizzly ammo I've bought has been poorly stored, corroded, and I suspect they are less careful than Buffalo Bore developing max loads. The Hornady is a hollow point. It just has a soft polymer ballistic tip to improve air resistance while preventing chain reaction in the magazine tube. You may have noticed that the Hornady warns against using it in revolvers. It kicks almost as hard as the Buffalo Bore in my 26" Marlin, but doesn't kick much harder than the HSM Cowboy loads in my BFR. I asked Hornady what was up with the revolver warning: "The BFR is the revolver we have had the greatest number of issues with and it seems to be related to the cylinder gap. The greater the gap the more of a chance there is that the bullet will lodge in the barrel or forcing cone. This, in part, is due to the fact LEVERevolution powder is a very slow burning powder. However, I will tell you that we have employees here who shoot this ammunition through their own BFR revolvers and have no issues at all; it really seems to be a gun to gun, potential issue." kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ6TmHmce55-fMU I have shot the Buffalo Bore Magnum and Grizzly +P from the BFR. Be careful. They are ridiculous. 405 gr. @ ~1600 fps. Wear gloves and work your way up to them. The Cowboy loads have a good kick but they're not bad.

[@Bob5mith]

Forgot to mention, Ultramax Cowboy Action is the softest shooting 45-70 I've found. You might want to warm up your BFR with it.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thank you very much Al. Your info is greatly appreciated. I am going to order some buffalo bore tonight

[@Bob5mith]

Make sure to get the "Magnum" loads from Buffalo Bore, or you're just paying a lot extra for nothing special. They're cheaper from Buds, Midway, CTD, etc. but here are the item numbers to look for: 8A and 8B are monsters. www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=35

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Al! I have some gift cards to Cabela's. Hoping they have some

[@douglasj2254]

Any idea about the velocity of the three rounds tested? Weight is important but how fast it's moving is the other half of the equation, yes? Thanks!

[@robertturner2916]

Nice shootin, Tex! Just guessing but the Hornady probably had the highest rating for FPS. Speed kills. Please go wash that urushiol (poison ivy oil) off your hands! If you wash the ivy oil off within a couple of hours this can keep you from getting the reaction. Make sure you use a soap that removes all of the oil and wash several times. Makes me itch just watching the video. You are definitely dedicated to your craft. Thank you for a fun video!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey thanks Robert! Absolutely! I have to take a shower right when i come otherwise ill swell up like a tomato!

[@nicke1903]

Use Dawn,the oil acts alot like Grease,the Dawn will cut it off ya

[@mikesowder2597]

I love the hornadys but don't like the price, winchesters are great too, never heard of the middle brand. Did you ever shoot them rip rounds yet?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I have not shot RIP rounds in any caliber. All 4570 is expensive to me 😆

[@plowboysghost]

Heavier hardcast lead flat point= penetration. Lighter, faster hollow points= bigger wound but less penetration. I knew what the outcome would be the moment the combatants were announced.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

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[@montanamountainmen6104]

I have the exact rifle , had it since 1995 . I use 405 jacketed and 400 gr cast the do wonders on deer and elk , truly a awesome cartridge. Billy Dixon at Adobe Walls , Texas shot a Indian from his horse at 3/4 of a mile ......what more can be said.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome. It is on my bucket list to take a mule deer. Would love to hunt in Montana. Thanks for watching!

[@calebdavis3110]

You said the lever revolution was a pointy tip, the only pointy tip is rubber And when It hits something the rubber tip pushes out the hollow point behind it before the bullet actually hits the hard object which means it will have a bigger hole going in than a standard hollow point.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

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[@melvinolivera6710]

Cool viedeos also good choice of fire arms along time ago i read am article on 3 caliberes 270. 30.06 and 7mm magnum great story on those 3 calabers. I think it was outdoor life

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Melvin

[@littleteethkeith]

I shoot HSM in 45 Colt simply because they are cheap plinking ammo with Starline brass and I’m a reloader. In my opinion they shoot a little dirty and yes since they are cowboy action bullets they are loaded a little light.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for the info! First time I ever bought cowboy action rounds.

[@charlesstreet5030]

Hardcast won't expand like a soft tip. Obviously less energy imparted to the target. Soft point expand and release energy to target plus large exit.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks Charles!

[@tbthedozer]

Exactly what I was thinking about the hard cast, the hollow point is a standard hollow point but if memory serves me the leverevolution is a spin on the ballistic tipped ammo with a thin skin up front and a polymer/plastic windshield for a point and when it hits the target is supposedly going to start massive expansion. If that’s the design the baseball seemed to verify the technology. Lol

[@omc-radio-tv]

plus the cowboy action loads, I think use black powder in the HSM.

[@18winsagin]

Great lesson as always when I visit your channel, so I'm a new subscriber now and look forward to viewing your videos, I really like the Rifle round videos, I have a Marlin 45 70 Guide Gun short Barrel and its Boss , I'd take it over any of my other guns, by the way just curious what state are you in, I'm in Southern Virginia originally from West Virginia.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I love the 4570!

[@peterwelsh6975]

The hornady hit the clay first, that's why the huge entry hole was already expanding before it got the ball

[@JeepJeep234]

Those cowboy action rounds are loaded to the original spec, so they won't have the power of the modern stuff.Try the HSM bear load. Those are 45-70 +p 430gr hard cast. The load data shows them around 1800-1900 fps and in the ballpark of 3000 ft lbs of energy.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

thanks!

[@thomasallen3818]

You need to get a Sharps long rifle in .45-70, it’s a blast to shoot, especially if you’re shooting long range. I have a Vernier scale sight on mine that makes it tons of fun.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yes i do

[@dalecarter923]

I figured the 405 grain would do the least damage, however I did not expect it to do so little. Like you, I'm not familiar with cowboy action loads. I suspect it's heavy in the lead to take down the steel targets, but light on the powder for reduced recoil. I'm sure of one thing in particular though, this was an awesome and exceptionaly entertaining video.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Dale!

[@jamesfarmer63]

The 495gr are designed to penatrate big dangerous game like buffelo,& afrcan cape buffelo and grizzly bear , thats why the 495gr didn't make as big a hold the other two would be better for elk deer, but moose and bear i'd use the 405gr at the lowest round, but if you can find them use the hornady 430+p rounds there even more powerful

[@randlerichardson5826]

I just subscribed to your channel. There hardcast they don’t mash up or explode they just go through.

[@gregster5391]

Line up some baseballs like the milk jugs. Love these videos, Thanks!!!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Good idea

[@enterthehunter7336]

I am trying to look at a lever gun in 4570 as my next gun purchase though I've been thinking 3030 is well but I wanted 4570 because it can go from just a little bit above 30 30 as far as foot pounds to greater than a 12 gauge at up to 4600 foot-pounds at the muzzle I was thinking about getting one of the older guns with the ladder site then you can move up for the yardage vs one with the Buckhorn sight like what you have there.

[@trailblazer632]

Get the newer one. With vintage guns you really have to watch what loads you put in them since the 4570 was originally a black powder load. Current model marlin 1895 rifles are one of the very few that are rated to handle any load on the market today. You can always add the vernier ladder sights later if you want to go that route

[@enterthehunter7336]

derek leverknight thanks it's always good having a little more knowledge about something you like.

[@gavincampbell7151]

The Hornady lever revolution is a hollow point like the Winchester’s. The pointed tip is wax or rubber and deforms on impact.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching Gavin!

[@jasonbrooks4150]

I suspect the hornady round impacted low, causing the entry to be tumbling vs. direct hit. In slow mo, the target pulverized, and at comparison, you can see the orange paint from the clay pigeon on the front of the bball. Still great shooting. 1" or 2" off center at 25 yards is dang skippy.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hey Jason! Thanks! I was surprised I was able to even hit the baseballs every time with the iron sites 😂 thanks for watching!

[@davidbryan1306]

Energy = Mass x Velocity (squared). That means velocity always trumps mass for down range destruction. A .22 caliber 60 grain bullet fired from a 22-250 has more muzzle energy than a 405 grain bullet fired from a 45-70.

[@xiaopeiyu2137]

1/2 mass. duh!! haha

[@xiaopeiyu2137]

Look at your ballistics chart past 400 yards. That's when the mass starts to Trump the velocities. When they both start to slow down to the point of crawling, the 45-70 still has 8X the mass of most 50 grain bullets out of a 22-250 (my favorite rifle of all time btw). Anyways, the 1st part of your comment references downrange performance but the end is quoting muzzle energy so Not sure what scenario your wanting to compare. Close range or down rangw

[@benavrahamyitzchak8433]

45-70 is my favorite caliber behind 338

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I'm a fan too!!!

[@JoanieKennedy]

Really cool! Question though how come you don't set up where there is no poison Ivy?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Its everywhere😂😂😂

[@JoanieKennedy]

LOL sounds like hell on earth if your allergic to it! This video has inspired me, I am going to shoot a soft ball with the Springfield Trapdoor 45-70 Govt with a 500 gr Spitzer and 70 grains of black powder just to see what happens :P

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Awesome! Let me know how it goes! I pretty much live w a poison ivy rash 😂

[@WCWMFN]

405gr bullet carries so much energy it just blows right through

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yup!

[@stead750]

It's right there, right beside that poison oak, lol

[@WHOTEEWHO]

😁😁😁

[@iam5692]

I don't know why I like your channel.......but I do. Thumbs up and subscribed. Oh, your cool....I like your canons too.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Ha! Appreciate you watching I AM!