#46 Poly Effects - Beebo

[@chiefbucknell]

I love the musicality and creative tastefulness of sound that makes just hearing your demos a pleasure.

[@ponderersounds3172]

Cheers my man ✌🏼

[@chiefbucknell]

@@ponderersounds3172 I wonder if Beebo is “still worth it in 2023”? 🇦🇺 🎛️🎚️✌️

[@RudyBressers]

Fantastic demo man! This really looks like a very fun pedal :)

[@ponderersounds3172]

Thanks man, hell of a rabbit hole!

[@hollywood4834]

This is the demo that sold it to me. Outstanding.

[@ponderersounds3172]

Awesome! Thanks for watching! 🖤

[@hollywood4834]

Ponderer Sounds this really should be on the product page! Beautiful stuff, very happy to have found your channel! ❤️

[@ponderersounds3172]

Thanks heaps 🖤

[@jbjb9691]

thank you for the best demo I have seen so far of that little Beebo gem 👍 !!

[@ponderersounds3172]

Thanks for watching!

[@bonusflaps1749]

I'd buy this pedal just to hear what's happening at 9:15 again. Beautiful

[@michaelbest1901]

really great demo dude! looking forward to getting my hands on one!

[@ponderersounds3172]

It’s a rabbit hole and a half! Thanks for watching 👍🏼

[@Bazulutooth]

Fantastic. Thank you!

[@ponderersounds3172]

My pleasure! 👍🏼

[@FrozenLonesome]

Very nice demo. Thanks!

[@ponderersounds3172]

Cheers!

[@pbasswil]

A unique and quirky device, and quite appealing. For stage, though: Does the screen go brighter? And those patch names are small and low contrast - black on dull blue; this can't be easy to read without bending and peering.

[@ponderersounds3172]

Definitely better if it’s being controlled by an external MIDI controller 👍🏼

[@mrbaiser4133]

I'd like to hear more bread-and-butter sounds. All demos show those over the top sounds... For example: Show, how flexible the modulated delays are. Can I build a preset that replicates a SDD-3000 or the 2290?

[@ponderersounds3172]

In theory you can, the sounds are built of many little bits so it comes down to your ear and tuning the filters and gain to taste to create the sound you want.

[@hmr28]

Is there a way to mimic a sitar sound with the beebo? A la ravish sitar (or better) for example?

[@ponderersounds3172]

Not sure bud, I didn’t end up keeping it, over some time I ended up not enjoying the interface much so I moved it on.

[@DeadtiredFastasleep]

I'm glad so many pedal channels do their demos in the style of Knobs.

[@ponderersounds3172]

It’s a good format that he popularised

[@dwayneyule1987]

Hello, thanks for the review, towards the end of the clip you mention/achieve some pad type accompaniment to the guitar riff. I've been looking for a pedal/synth for bass guitar, to provide textures or activate arpeggios along with the bass lines. I don't have enough need t to get a keys player, do you think this pedal would fit? I get that you've probably not spent months and months with this thing, but any reply within the context of your use would be greatly appreciated!! Cheers, Dwayne.

[@ponderersounds3172]

Hey there thanks for watching! I think it would be possible to do what you want with the Beebo, but being transparent I found it fun to work with for the demo but really didn’t find myself coming back to it after that. I think it’s one of those pieces that will either suit you or it won’t and you can’t really tell without diving in and using one.

[@dwayneyule1987]

@@ponderersounds3172 Thank you, I also watched some of your Hologram demo, and think that might be something that could be really effective to introduce occasional arpeggios and textures with. I enjoy your presentations, thorough and fun to watch!

[@등불-l4t]

7:30 Is this sound used only as a poly effects? Without another pedals? Why do i hear another string sound?

[@ponderersounds3172]

That’s orchestral sample, no guitar. Poly is just doing delay and chorus.

[@등불-l4t]

@@ponderersounds3172 7:43 It says orchestral sample. I couldn't read it well because I'm Korean. I'm sorry 😅

[@jeremiah_justice]

I have a question about reverb. I don't see a list on their site or in a manual of the types of reverb. Does it work like you load a reverb algorithm then add more modules to go as crazy as I want? Between the digit and beebo, do they both go big with reverbs or does one have more algorithms then the other. But I know each unit can switch between the firmware. Thanks

[@ponderersounds3172]

There’s a huge list of convolution reverbs you can load in the reverb module on Digit, Beebo just has a few in comparison but the few it has are very flexible and in no way limiting. Of course you can add more modules to further shape the verb in either firmware. If you’re after a huge reverb palate though you’ll probably spend most you’re time in Digit.

[@wolvesandguitars]

What comes in box ? how many cables do you need to buy ? I know the Empress Zoia comes with MIDI minis and a card which is awesome . MY poly should arrive by end AUG

[@ponderersounds3172]

Comes with all the necessary cables too 👍🏼

[@vio4jesus]

Can the generated sounds be triggered? Like a feed Poly Beebo a low ‘E’ note on the guitar and a bass drum is triggered; but I feed it a high ‘E’ note from the guitar and snare or something else is triggered?

[@ponderersounds3172]

I don’t think the engine is that advanced, been a while since I did this demo too. Best to get in touch with Loki at Poly to find out.

[@ArtyShat]

Did you find it better than GFI Synesthesia?

[@ponderersounds3172]

Very different and hard to compare, I’d have a tough time choosing one over the other!

[@idiopathicmusic]

Hmmmmm . . . where can one find the Pecan Edera?

[@ponderersounds3172]

Very small batches directly, link to his mailing list on Instagram I think.

[@shomijah]

Insanity! Amazeballs! Question1: @2:10 Beebo switches to Digit... HOW? Can't seem to find any documentation. Question2: what's the difference btw Beebo vs Poly Digit vs Digit? Those are the three buying options on Poly's site, each at $399, and if Beebo can Digit then why the others and NOT Beebo? Thanks!

[@ponderersounds3172]

Really all you do is choose the colour you want, they’re all the same. As far as swapping there is a little cog icon for settings in the bottom right, tap that and then tap ‘change to Digit’ and you’re done. I just didn’t do that in the demo as it cuts audio and I felt like being artsy 🙃

[@shomijah]

That just made my day... I don't have a pink pedal yet (and that blue's too close to my Organelle)

[@mrbaiser4133]

@@ponderersounds3172 So, you pay for one pedal, but you can switch between the Beebo and the Digit firmware?

[@KL-tn1xc]

love the melo, sounds alot like a track from SMT IV. @ 9:15

[@KL-tn1xc]

ooooh!! no it's persona. the velvet room theme.

[@ponderersounds3172]

Thanks, I’ll have to listen to that 👌🏼

[@Tool185]

@@ponderersounds3172 It sounds like it could be off of the anime Death Note ost.

[@underwoodblog]

Can the LFO set to a very slow speed? I've a HX stomp and the LFO on the Phaser is way to fast for my style of music. Eventides Mod Factor LFO has half speed of the hx but slower would be nice.

[@ponderersounds3172]

Not completely sure off the top of my head but I think it is almost stand still slow, I know the chorus went really slow.

[@hillfey1683]

I have a couple of very long Lexicon like 28 secs 224 IR reverbs, how many seconds Beebo lets you load? I didnt find anything about it on their user manual.

[@ponderersounds3172]

There’ll be a new manual soon, Loki is finishing it off. Should have all that info but if not just send him an email, he happy to answer all questions 👍🏼

[@lawrencevaughan5373]

What “modules” or presets does it have out of the box? The manual on their website is still being written. Want to know if this will be replacing my h9

[@ponderersounds3172]

There are so many, mods of all sorts, reverbs, delays, cab sims, synths, and every little individual building block you need to make just about anything you can dream up.

[@thepilgrim7276]

Awesome!!! Does it support polyphonic pitch to midi, so you can control the synths with the guitar?

[@ponderersounds3172]

As far as I know it does v/oct in to control the synth voices, not sure about poly pitch

[@thepilgrim7276]

@@ponderersounds3172 Thank you!!! :)

[@lasespanas2467]

Hello!! Does it have tap tempo for delays??

[@ponderersounds3172]

You can assign a footswitch to do virtually anything for any module

[@lasespanas2467]

Ponderer Sounds external foot switch or one of these on the device?

[@ponderersounds3172]

All three on the pedal

[@jamisonlee9611]

This is probably a dumb question, but I'm going to ask anyway: Does it have ample random modulation settings?

[@ponderersounds3172]

More than you can poke a very large stick at... you modulate modulators with another modulation!

[@jamisonlee9611]

@@ponderersounds3172 Right on. And there are random-modulation algorithms (e.g., Shallow Water or Generation Loss) to choose from?

[@ponderersounds3172]

Not specifically but you can build them, using a hpf and lpf in parallel and adding a random lfo to pitch on either side would create something akin to those. All the building blocks are there, you just have to learn their application and get creative.

[@ShaighJosephson]

I dumped the Zoia becauae the interface totally sucked and killed creative flow... This pedal looks like it remedies that problem...with the 4 channel ins/outs being a huge routing bonus...

[@ponderersounds3172]

I actually prefer the Zoia interface way more, it’s personal preference I guess. They both have excellent sounds so it just comes down to what works best for you 👍🏼

[@ShaighJosephson]

@@ponderersounds3172 True... I like everything on top for quick access without the menu diving...

[@ChrisSamuel1729]

How hard would it be to replicate the sound of Growler from Line 6's FM4 or M5?

[@ponderersounds3172]

Sorry not really familiar with growler, but I think you’d be able to approximate most sounds.

[@ChrisSamuel1729]

@@ponderersounds3172 Thanks! In case you'd like to hear it, this is Growler. Buckethead uses it occasionally, to great effect. It's played during the first 30s. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4WziaysZrankK8

[@rolfschorfheide3568]

Are in beebo sounds from mutable instruments available.

[@ponderersounds3172]

You could definitely get in the ball park, all the building blocks are there.

[@danedgecombe7408]

Are midi preset changes instant, or do they take a little while to load?

[@ponderersounds3172]

Not too sure mate, I haven’t used MIDI with it yet. There was more than enough to try and cover on the pedal itself for one demo. Maybe I’ll revisit for some MIDI and live application stuff.

[@danedgecombe7408]

Ponderer Sounds that’d be amazing! It’s an amazing product as it is but it’d be a total game-changer if you can have virtually an entire, useable pedalboard (-drives) in one pedal

[@Lorneplumber]

Dan Edgecombe takes quite a while to change presets

[@ponderersounds3172]

There isn’t any MIDI support on the new firmware yet, once that’s released in an update it should be improved.

[@jamisonlee9611]

I found the interface of Zoia to be pretty overwhelming/unintuitive. I know people love it, and it's a great pedal, etc., etc. That was only my impression. I guess I'm wondering if you think there might be a group (perhaps those of us who are considered more "plug-n-play" people) that might be able to work with this interface a little easier than Zoia's. Can anyone compare the two pedals' ease of use in terms of creating patches? (I know it's all subjective, but I'd appreciate any input.) Thanks, everyone.

[@ponderersounds3172]

I haven’t owned a Zoia but when I have messed around with one I found it pretty easy, even for complicated stuff. The Poly feels very similar to be honest with the exception of being able to read what you’ve done. I think Poly maybe takes slightly longer to connect things up, Zoia you kind of develop some muscle memory for connecting parts of modules. I think if you understand the basics of each module you’ll find it easy to use though, it’s a pretty nice sized screen.

[@jamisonlee9611]

@@ponderersounds3172 Thanks. Yeah, the addition of the screen feels like a huge difference to me. (To be fair, I spent very little time with the Zoia before I decided it wasn't ideal for my workflow.)

[@JamesReedy]

@@jamisonlee9611 the issue with Zoia (I have one) it's a lot harder to back out what's going on in someone else's patches. It's not that you can't but if it's a complex patch it's not nearly as intuitive as this looks to be. You also get Beebo and Digit in the same box, he's ported a bunch of modular synth modules from Mutable Instruments, for instance you get Plaits, Clouds etc. You're getting many times the price of the unit alone in modular synth units. Yeah there's no direct CV in's like you have on the modular but you could get a CV to midi converter to fix that...

[@mrbaiser4133]

Can this thing produce all the sounds of the GFI Specular Tempus ?

[@ponderersounds3172]

I would say it can do sounds that are in the ball park of the Spec Temp catalog, but I think it would be hard to perfectly replicate them. Those are some of the best crafted delays and reverbs in the industry.

[@joeymc5272]

This is old by why is it this pedal seems amazing but i rarely see it on anyones pedals boards now?

[@ponderersounds3172]

I think it does amazing things but the interface isn’t for everyone, it’s very ‘audio design’ orientated and I think a lot of people want something more instantly gratifying. I’ve seen lots of synth guys housing this as a desk top piece.

[@joeymc5272]

@@ponderersounds3172 i think your right, just like zoia, its a lot of work to develop a fx you are aiming for. I love zoia but the fx are not as premium as other fx pedals i have and im definitely interested in the beebo but cant find a definitive answer as to what the fx quality is like. Yes there is a difference in digital fx imo whether people agree or dont agree. Put zoia up against meris lvx or the h90 and you will definitely hear a difference in quality