The Doctor's Daughter | Full Episode

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[@MandiMomOf8Channel]

Excellent link! 👍

[@5GreenAcres]

The flicker rates of your programme is horrible. Are you trying to get people to have seizures? People with macular degeneration....almost impossible to watch.

[@thesrenata]

This is one of those cases, where Justice for victim is "abandoned" by closest ppl that should be search for answers. It's too disapointing and heartbreaking to watch, hiw ignorant someone can be..or should I say....betrail...RIP to this beautifull Woman 🤍

[@grantgoldberg1663]

Total re-run. This case was from years ago. 30 seconds in I remember this. She was a daddy's girl. Get some new episodes up.

[@MandiMomOf8Channel]

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[@bernieboo7637]

Anyone else's heart just BREAK hearing that poor girl scream "My Mommy!"? It doesn't matter how old you are, that's still your Mommy.

[@Jackietreehorn-z5e]

Little odd for a grown woman to scream daddy and mommy.

[@MrGrumpyGills]

No, my heart didn't break. I cringed slightly.

[@spirit13the1st6]

​@@Jackietreehorn-z5e She's probably a little spoiled, and i think the youngest. It's not alarming.

[@olaines9154]

@@Jackietreehorn-z5ewhy?

[@TheCandiceWang]

💔💔💔💔 It devastating. I almost lost my mommy before. It's terrorizing

[@Marcycat7]

Some husbands can be good to a whole community, except their own wife.

[@recommendmovies]

But why does this happen, though??

[@naomideleon8363]

Absolutely 💯

[@Kaleidescope66]

Yep 😢

[@Whol3NothaL3v3l]

That's often how it works. I never understand how people can think that just because someone is a good employee, that must mean they are a good spouse. That's like saying that your car mechanic must also be a good neurosurgeon.

[@lillion3665]

That's just like my own father good with socializing with other people but with me he is less sociable. Extremely quiet.

[@ASMRish]

The fact that her friend was the one who stood with the victim and fought to bring her justice, instead of her own family, makes me sick to my stomach.

[@CynthiaSchoenbauer]

Yes, I agree. Sometimes our friends are the only ones who are objective and loving enough to try and want to save us in this life.

[@elizabethb.1276]

That's absolutely heartbreaking 💔

[@nancarter5474]

Sometimes it takes such a long time to accept the person you love so much can possibly do these despicable things. I understand why her brain just can't go there. The daughter is also a victim. Can you imagine seeing that scene?

[@marykuettner752]

@@nancarter5474 exactly. Sometimes it takes years to accept the truth.

[@Loudes012]

Look she loved them both but her experience as an examiner is clear and precise. The wounds examined are from blunt force trauma caused in car accidents, falls from high places, and objects causing the wound. The evidence cannot hide the truth. She gave her professional opinion contrary to her personal feelings for the couple.

[@dineomokgosi411]

“I don’t know at what age we all learn that you don’t move somebody with a serious head or neck injury, but we all know it… and here is a guy who’s been practicing medicine for 30 years” What a sharp, thoughtful & great investigator! 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

[@Grammichal]

Jenna was BEGGING her father NOT to move her mother given the head injury!

[@SassySmith-gf5bq]

And hes a doctor smh

[@chokmahhalacha3171]

Very thoughtful investigator.

[@nathan_lincoln]

That nailed the doctor. Well done!

[@petitendu8488]

Why didn't he call her to come compress the wound while he did cpr

[@anacontreras8146]

She came back from a coma to do justice to her friend. Incredible how we all have a purpose in life.

[@2034916]

I was thinking the same thing. Certainly interesting. What a wonderful woman she is and great friend to Leslie.

[@lau_lau.84]

Your comment gave me goosebumps. What a lovely way to look at it ❤

[@theVanishingGladiator]

Oh my!! Good observation!!

[@mariasalas3888]

Exactly what I thought 😢

[@ValerieGriner]

Yes. I highly respect her.

[@karma07169]

He murdered her, blood dripped everywhere....needed to take her to the shower to make it look like a fall and then brought her back to the bedroom for his daughter to witness this. Sick and twisted

[@yvonneedwards9407]

You got! I’m glad the state looked out for her as her family failed her, those in the court, as in another episode of dateline others were with the prosecution!

[@ronthompson95]

I’m with you, although I think one part I differ about what you said. I think he was attacking her and chased her into the shower where she finally collapsed. He then carried her to the bedroom. Interesting that he says he didn’t have light to see so he brought her into the bedroom. And put her on the floor? But even more so you just pull her into the bathroom and flip the light on. And you would be careful, so you didn’t hurt her head further.

[@lynnhubbard844]

@@ronthompson95 wonder why the daughter didnt hear any fighting/screaming?

[@patmandew22]

​@@lynnhubbard844their house is huge! Also this happened early, if they called 911 around 8am, he said she was in the shower for an hour before he checked on her, he said he went for a run and coffee before that, so maybe before 6am he attacked her

[@Denise_Suzanne]

Sheets being changed makes it obvious, too.

[@zombiechicken7114]

His daughter having to scream at him for moving her mother is a dead giveaway he was not treating the incident correctly. He was a very experienced doctor acting like an amateur.

[@ericvansteenlandt7888]

Even a stupid amateur wouldn't move a person with a head injury like that!

[@SpartacusErectus]

That’s what happens when you panic.

[@dranchd6571]

@@SpartacusErectus Panic at the thought of 30 to life for killing his wife.

[@Memg007]

@@SpartacusErectusExperienced doctor, panic is the last thing they experience

[@SidewaysInTraffic]

@@dranchd6571 MD's are used to dealing with people they don't personally know, come on. Name one hospital or large practice that allows surgeons to operate on their family members, think a little bit.

[@laurenS94]

The judge is spot on. I can understand the children being in denial.. but her OWN sister!? That is odd to me.. it is so sad she had no family fighting for HER. That is just heartbreaking

[@etaokha4164]

Your worse enemies is your own family. Those people Envied her but pretended all those while sitting on their hate towards her and pretending in her face. I cut my off. Blood doesn't make family

[@AshCupric]

@@etaokha4164I am with you 100%. The saying “blood is thicker than water” is such bs. If you have toxic family members that only bring negativity/ hate/ drama then cut your ties ASAP. We can create our own families and that has nothing to do with blood.

[@shachede6828]

It happens, a lot of times it’s money. They have probably giving loaned money, given then money for their families and kids. That they are blinded. It’s terrible. But it happens. Very unfortunate.

[@yvaughnb1207]

I was thinking the same thing, why isn’t anyone considering HER story. Then I think the doctor is the breadwinner and that family fought like hell to keep that money out of prison.

[@LB-sk3vl]

The doc is guilty

[@deborahpolk1854]

Robert Neulander lost 3 appeals, guilty 20 years to life

[@ivettevargas5097]

Thank you

[@kimberlys2950]

This was my Ob/gyn Dr, and I do believe he was and is guilty. His practice was struggling due to and audit with BCBS dropping his practice and his wife was leaving him.

[@aliciakraynik7674]

Thank you for your comment. It helps make it easier to understand why it happened 😢

[@christinagonzales3018]

As an AEMT for 30 years, there would be no reason for us to remove our gloves inside at the scene. We remove them outside in our unit and place them in a biohazard bag.

[@desert_moon]

I'm also an AEMT (EMT-I in my state). I've never removed my gloves inside someone's home.

[@rhondabenedict5284]

And the are inside out after being removed so contaminants stay inside the glove.. I've never been able to just pull off latex medical gloves without rolling them ..

[@denisegay232]

Unfortunately, this isn’t brain surgery. Doc spent years bringing life into this world and a night taking his wife life. He used his daughter as a pawn. Such a horrible thing for a dad to their child. In this case, to his children.

[@Garbeaux.]

Maybe he thought he was evening out the score.

[@Grammichal]

“brain surgery?” Leslie would have needed brain surgery…. 😢

[@cosmosrunner2468]

The denial in this family is incredibly powerful. Poor Leslie, she had no one in her corner. She was betrayed! How despicable.

[@CynthiaSchoenbauer]

Yes! You see it too, that she was not supported at all in her family and in death it really comes out that she was ostracized in terms of support. Your comment is a good one. She was trying to assert her independence from his constant control and enjoy her life, possibly, without cowing down to him, his needs, and his demands.

[@adristrydom5154]

Exactly what I said

[@hilo4580]

I hope they ruled out the daughter.

[@nickidaisydandelion4044]

It also seems like the daughter and the father had an affair going. This is just my psychic intuition I don't know for sure. But it seems like it. That doctor is a cold hearted man.

[@hilo4580]

@@nickidaisydandelion4044 I kinda wondered myself if the daughter was somehow involved . Maybe it was the only way to cover her college tuition or something 🙄🫠

[@denisebacher5040]

The moment the doctor said he moved his wife because the lighting was bad in the bathroom that he was lying. And he moved her a couple times, according to him. Moving her from a firm flooring to carpeting. Just so many things wrong there. But definitely the moving her out of the bathroom. I used to work as a nurse. Elder care. Worked in a facility where our floor was for patients who needed 24 hour care, but above us were reside who were just retired individuals , living in apartments. Their meals provided for them in a large dining room. But if they had emergencies we responded first. One night a wife called and said her husband had slipped getting out of the shower. I went up with another nurse and the man’s head was between the toilet and the tub. He had a gash on his head which was bleeding pretty heavily. We eased him out so we could do CPR and address the wound, after 911 was called. But we didn’t move him out of the bathroom even though it was a cramped space. Because you can do so much more damage to a person if you do so. I learned that in high school when I took nursing assistant course. First Aid 101. The patient had had a stroke and wound up on our floor after he was released from the hospital. He never did get better from his stroke. Which saddened me because, from the pictures in their apartment, you could tell they were an active couple who loved traveling. And now they were confined to the health center. His wife was so devoted and truly a wonderful woman.

[@sunshinemoon7075]

Why did the sister testify on the doctor behalf?

[@bonniepark6802]

Yeah how much light do you have to have to do CPR I mean really

[@HootchTV]

You don't need good lighting to perform CPR. Period.

[@MsLane61]

Yeah, that's going to be my first thought when trying to save a person's life in a tragic emergency: "I want to be comfortable to perform CPR, and I would like appropriate lighting."

[@MamiOf3kids]

Right​@@HootchTV

[@Asia_B_85]

I was a housekeeper for lots of wealthy doctors and their families up and down the coast of Lake Michigan and one thing that stood out to me was the housekeeper saying the sheets were changed. Fussing with the beds and washing the old sheets waiting for them to dry so we can leave is always one of the last things I did. I always knew which sheets were on the beds in all of the bedrooms because we have to memorize the sizes of the sets. It may sound dumb but I FULLY believe the housekeeper that he changed the sheets

[@ronthompson95]

Typical lawyer. The most honorable person I’ve ever met. How long have you known your client for? How much of his life do you know about him. Absolutely zero. All you know is is you were in a room strategically planning with him. I love how these soul-less lawyers don’t have the common sense to just say he believes he was a good man and leave it at that.

[@stephaniek1076]

Or, on another note, perhaps his client is so convincingly persuasive and manipulative that he has been convinced this attorney of his innocence.

[@grettajoyce3204]

The lawyer’s view of the clients innocence or guilt is absolutely irrelevant. The jury hearing all the evidence presented at trial will determine guilt or innocence. The lawyer’s job is to give legal advice, and to represent the client to the best of his or her abilities in accordance with Bar council rules.

[@mikerivera7509]

All he wants is the the money

[@Marieaf71]

$$$$$$$

[@carladaquila8190]

That defense attorney has died. No more defending and lying for the wicked.

[@StellaFl]

Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing. "you didn't do it, I was there" the daughter said. Only she wasn't .......

[@lilianavois4391]

I agree. A very powerful copping mecanism.

[@cochip__5897]

If so it isn't enough to convict on as it is subjective and not actual facts.

[@joeyharper4976]

That's not cognitive dissonance. That's just gaslighting.

[@CoffeeCrazy]

So TruE!

[@jayterra2060]

@@joeyharper4976 they go hand in hand … gaslighting can cause cognitive dissonance or cognitive dissonance can make you more susceptible to being gaslit

[@BananaExpress-er8sm]

If you’ve ever had kids with a narcissist you will understand how easy it is for your kids to support them after killing you or destroying your life.

[@CynthiaSchoenbauer]

Yes, they rarely get caught for destroying your life, and sometimes even get away with killing you!

[@moirahill6397]

Flying monkeys

[@beastshawnee]

yep. happens all the time. My friend who is a sweet and living mom and human-had kids with a narcissist. He stole the kids. Denied her access. poisoned their minds. Now they hate her.

[@5GreenAcres]

No way. My mom is a narcissist and I would never defend or support her. EVER.

[@PalmBeachFlorida24]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@krenakrneki7636]

She was killed twice. Once by her husband and second time by her children and the rest of the family. So sad.

[@katarinamills8530]

Broke my heart❤exactly.

[@underratedunity1528]

Yup daughter was delusional

[@Adelicows]

I'm sure the daughter knows he's guilty (there's even proof in the 911 call that she lied about not seeing blood first... she said there was blood everywhere, and THEN told him to put her down) but standing up to him would mean getting written out of his will and losing her inheritance. So she chose money over doing what's morally and legally correct. Despicable.

[@MireyaPosada]

Some kids are just afraid to loose the only parent alive. There some things we will never understand

[@brkctrl]

@@Adelicowsshe even shouted I love you to make sure she stayed in his will, she didn’t sound heartbroken or tearful to me. More like I love you as you end a phone conversation or wish someone goodnight.

[@chizusakuraa]

Being found guilty by two sets of jurors says alot. Good that they remained objective in this case and was not swayed by the emotions his family was displaying. I'm thankful to the officers on scene, forensic pathologists and DA for bringing the truth to light and justice when no one stood her side.

[@TheNinnyfee]

Dr Neulander has a nerve to stress his daughter like this. A good father would have done anything to protect his daughter from this view. The floor must have been disappearing underneath her feet when she saw her mom. You can hear the trauma happening to her. She is losing her dad and mom at the same time, of course her mind won't go there. ❤😢

[@frannyfaye2683]

I agree all that pressure on her to keep her father from going to prison..sad.

[@gasmith7486]

Narcissists don’t care.

[@mariawestman9026]

The whole family is pressing her.. she can go to jail for it !! 😢

[@sonjafaircloth5507]

He thought because he was a doctor he was going to get away with it

[@jeremyness2395]

Pretty sure taking the life of his daughters mother is a much bigger clue to what a POS dad he was then using his daughter to help secure his freedom. Imo

[@ggurks]

The poor daughter screaming and begging her father not to move her mother, and yet he drags her all the way because he knows he has to somehow cover for all that blood. I think that says it all

[@Susan-k6u1x]

She knows he makes a mistake moving her mother, and still, she believes her father is innocent.

[@themacedonian188]

Crazy.

[@TheManthrax]

Sad but true! R.I.P.

[@chokmahhalacha3171]

@@Susan-k6u1x That part. She knows.

[@lisaa.4667]

@@Susan-k6u1x As I said in a previous post, It would be terrible to believe that one of our parents murdered the other, especially in such a brutal way. Some adult children in this situation will never believe this despite overwhelming evidence. It is a defense mechanism the subconscious undertakes to protect the person's psyche. It's called denial.

[@DonMigel-xy3rm]

This is exactly why jurors are members of the community and not family members, because if it was up the family they would not convict a relative.

[@jimwerther]

Brilliant observation 🤦‍♂️

[@sylviaalphonse3031]

D

[@jayweh]

of course, it's not family members. who on earth would ever suggest such a thing?

[@darkfafnir4389]

​@@jaywehthey had no weapon and why wasn't the bed full of blood or why didnt the bathroom have more castoff then the bedroom...none of it made sense

[@shimmeringchimps3842]

​@@jaywehLots of people in true crime comments say things like that. "If it had happened to your mother/sister/brother/etc, you would feel different." Seemingly not realizing that's exactly why we use independent juries who don't know the victim or the suspect. That's what OP is referring to.

[@maryjoanangeles4030]

Poor Lesly. Her whole family betrayed her . There was no one on her side.

[@TheSybil47]

I feel so sorry for Jenna. Another child, who's been used by a guilty parent. Absolutely disgusting. I just hope she finally sees him for what he really is. A monster, who robbed her of her mother, and then played victim, and playing with her fragile emotions. R.I.P. Leslie.

[@jadentrez]

The doctor's story falls apart so easily. If the wife had slipped and smashed her head in the shower while he was out running, then by the time he arrived to move her, her heart would have slowed to the point that any bleeding likely would have been minimal since she had been unconscious and dying. There is no way she could have spattered blood all over at that point.

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

😢

[@Tarlyne]

On spot 💯

[@DBZluvz]

that and after 10 to 15 minutes her blood would've started to congeal so when he moved her, as you said her bleeding would've been minimal. the shower wasn't on because none of the blood looked diluted so the water couldn't have kept the blood wet and if she had fallen in the shower with it on, then when he moved her she would've been wet and if you've ever tried to lift someone who's wet, they are very slippery. also, if the cops would've looked at the diameter of the blood splatter then they could've been able to say that the size and shape of the spatter couldn't be from cast off from gloves or a shirt sleeve because there are measurements for different kinds of blood splatter and had the cops took those measurements then it would be irrefutable!

[@Aspectus]

"The most honorable person I have EVER met." - essentially insults everyone else he ever met

[@ronthompson95]

Such a good statement you make. I thought the same. A bit of an overshoot don’t you think?

[@madrush24]

Well, he is a defense attorney... I can't imagine he is around a lot of good people... ever.

[@Aspectus]

@@madrush24 I think that is true. Maybe the bar was set low. 🤣

[@SloverOfTeuth]

He's an advocate for the defendant, doing his job.

[@Aspectus]

@@SloverOfTeuth I understand the dynamics, but lying at that level actually does a disservice to the client because it calls everything else into question. Do YOU believe his client was the most honorable man he had ever met? Exactly. So he is the kind of lawyer who will make big lies right to your face because he thinks you are too stupid. Ya know, like that the EMTs were so careless with their gloves that they whip them off and contaminate crime scenes.

[@ericvansteenlandt7888]

Some people have everything to be happy. A beautiful wife, a good job, a beautiful family, a beautiful home....... but for some reason it is not enough. With Leslie's injuries and the blood trails you see, my heart is grateful to the jury. This monster is where it belongs!!

[@LC-go1uh]

Stuff does not make you happy! The biggest mistake most people make is leaving God out of their lives . Apart from the one who created you, everything else just gets old. Why do you think so many famous people commit suicide? You will never find true joy in this world. You can find little tidbits of happiness but it all passes away. Ecclesiastes 2:24-26 New Living Translation (NLT) For who can eat or enjoy anything apart from him? God gives wisdom, knowledge, and joy to those who please him. But if a sinner becomes wealthy, God takes the wealth away and gives it to those who please him.

[@jefferyhodges8835]

I don't know the sheets on the bed, supposedly got replaced but not the bed itself? I'm no blood expert, but if you bleed, doesn't it soap in?

[@kol2han]

Rich people will eat each other in the end.

[@TheCandiceWang]

​@@LC-go1uhamen. Merry Christmas and thank God for the Savior's birth ✝️

[@milacruz3970]

Because deep down they know they don't deserve it but instead of working on themselves, on forgiving themselves and healing and stop hating who they are they exteriorise it and abuse and things like that happen. Some people take it on themselves other on others but it ultimately is all the same: self harm and self sabottage

[@ddonlee]

Missing blood soaked shirt, bedsheets changed, splattered blood all over the walls in the room, her very serious injury to head, him dragging her body to the bedroom( had to reverse the trail of blood when he drag her to bathroom after hitting her on her head and killing her), her daughter screaming on the phone asking her dad( a doctor) not to move the body, his crumbling marraige--- GUILTY AS CHARGED! Poor Leslie, all of her kids betrayed her ! Shame on them all, including leslies siblings

[@BFProductionsLLC]

I'm really stunned by the amount of denial that children of murderers can come to. He killed his wife and the narcissist decided he would use his daughter as a witness

[@koisneurotypical]

It seems to happen on every 48 hours episode, doesn’t it?!

[@brkctrl]

It seems cold but money could also be a motive. They don’t want him to cut them off his will.

[@MD77SA]

Same happened when Chad Daybell killed his wife to be with Lori Vallow. His children all defended him. I felt sad for Tammy Daybell, their murdered mother.

[@nancarter5474]

You can clearly hear the daughter say: "there is blood everywhere" then " put her down". She saw the blood before seeing her mother.

[@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij]

That would mean she lied for him that she didn’t see the blood on the wall before he moved her!! If that’s the case that’s sad and mind blowing. Perhaps he manipulated her deeply idk

[@jeffreywilliamson4863]

@@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij I think that she was unsure, not sure she could trust her memory, and believed her dad, possibly to a degree that her memory was altered.

[@persephoneszeliga]

Memory is a strange thing. Wait til you get a bit older, and memory will play tricks on you.

[@brkctrl]

@@persephoneszeligashe was young but yes, memory follows our conception of events rather than what actually happened. That’s why eye witnesses are not reliable.

[@vaska1999]

​@@brkctrl Except that it's perfectly possible to re-member but by bit, in a totally calm, safe environment and over a few hours to a couple of days, the details of a traumatic event. I don't think the daughter ever allowed herself to go through such a process, with a firm, unwavering determination to recover the truth of what she saw, regardless of the consequences. She betrayed her mother in choosing to remain in denial about her dad.

[@fletcher373]

The fact that the daughter contradicted the housekeeper about the sheets, shows the daughter cares more about protecting the father than the truth. How would the daughter know if those were the same sheets? She checks her parents bedsheets? She made a mental note of the bedsheets during the scene of seeing her mother's dead body dragged around? To know they were not different? The prosecution got it right about her seeing the blood first then seeing her mother. Her screaming at him to stop moving the body, very incriminating.

[@ronthompson95]

Well said!!

[@ronthompson95]

Tell me anyone here who is familiar with the sheets their parents use on their bed.

[@RebeccaLizEve]

OR they changed the sheets from the time the cleaners came. You’re believing a housekeeper over an eye witness; I’m the opposite

[@SpringNotes]

Instead of caring more about protecting the father; I believe the daughter is protecting herself (along with the rest of her family) from the truth.

[@DiddlyD-xx2ih]

​@@RebeccaLizEveoh come on. The housekeeper made the bed the day before!

[@kellyeaton9994]

I'm stunned this couple's children totally disregarded the blood spatter on the headboard and bedroom wall and all the blood next to the bed. I can't believe they've stood by their dad all these years- a doctor who knows not to move an injured person but does it anyway, not once but TWICE! I'm shocked they even considered that their mom could've slipped and died in the shower with all the blood evidence in the bedroom. Unbelievable!

[@TheCandiceWang]

Me, too. Tons of blood Spatter wtffffff

[@shimmeringchimps3842]

Plus the wife's face was beat up all over, and the gash was on TOP of her head. Who lands like that after slipping in a shower? Someone brought an object down onto her head.

[@TheSybil47]

I'm sure, that if she fell like he said she did, she would still be alive, because a person always try to somehow break the fall.

[@dustycole5331]

​@@TheSybil47 But you can't always break your fall. I have had a horrible slip about 20 years ago. The way I slipped caused me to rotate so fast I didn't have time and I landed on my neck and back of my head. If I would have landed a inch or so to my left I would have been dead. It was at work and someone had a small table upside down, the leg only got my side. But if a little more over and it would have went thru my chest on my heart side. Til this day over 20 years later I still have problems/ nerve damage/ numb fingers and hands with pain. Not all the time but enough to make it suck. Lol

[@elabuterin7150]

Children and close family are not independent! They are ruled by emotions, love both parties equally unless there are signs of conflict or abuse beforehand. Sometimes even if there are signs the thought of losing both parents is too much to bear. Anyone who is unhappy in a relationship should have a confidant OUTSIDE of the family 🤷‍♀️

[@chy8427]

I feel so bad for Leslie’s daughter, Jenna. Not only has she lost her mother, her father (rightfully, but still), and her own memories of what happened that night. I can’t even begin to imagine.

[@2034916]

And he left Jenna to find her, too, which is horrible.

[@sherrydmyterko-tramp8654]

I think she blocked the real truth. The lie becoming her truth. To her, she was telling the truth. Very tragic to see. She should know her dad was a good doctor, experienced 30 yrs. Way too much blood spatter, everywhere as she said in her call. Broken phone, bad lighting, moving two times. No way. Both juries got it right. The family will always stand by him n that is super sad.

[@ninedaysjane2466]

I don't. She's a typical rich kid.

[@martharunstheworld]

I would feel worse, if she had actually stood up for her mother.

[@tonyag69]

I think the doctor is guilty but my husband and I sleep in separate rooms every since the kid's moved out. My husband snoring and having to fall asleep with the tv on and the remote in his hand made it so I couldn't sleep. If I tried to take the remote from him he would wake up lol. We both love having our own rooms now but it doesn't mean we don't love each other. We've been married 35 yrs.

[@HolisticManifesting]

Sounds great, co sleeping is really hard for a lot of people and can ruin a good relationship. ❤

[@hubhub1254]

yeah i don't understand why people focus that much on that "sleeping together" thing

[@MyMusiclover28]

My sister and her husband do the same thing. Her husband has severe sleep apnea and snores like a freight train. They have done everything they could to stay sleeping in the same bed but his symptoms persisted. Now they sleep separately (most nights 😜) and are happier than ever. She’s well rested and he can sleep peacefully knowing he’s not affecting her by using his Cpap machine (which is also noisy) It works for them!

[@XTRABIG]

committed adults figuring it out. 💯

[@wengd.6738]

The victim's injury speaks of how she died!..

[@andreadanburg5649]

The detail that convinced me of the husband’s guilt was the fact that the bathroom was too dark to properly see his wife’s face well enough to perform cpr. Like seriously!?!?

[@RoseNZieg]

we all shower in the dark. get with the ptogram.

[@suzannereiter3600]

I don't!@@RoseNZieg

[@ianclose123]

I agree. He's an experienced medical practitioner but he needs additional light to locate his own wife's mouth, nose and chest to be able to provide immediate first aid. What a joker.

[@kevinsworld.7086]

I agree 100% he wanted her dead

[@twilight79010]

Robert Neulander obviously killed his wife. I understand how difficult it is for his family to realize the truth, but I hope they can begin to accept it as time goes on.

[@cochip__5897]

Glad you are so confident to tell an entire family they are wrong. Impressive

[@CoffeeCrazy]

@@cochip__5897 The evidence is impressively confident! The PROFESSIONALS are Confident! Families clearly put on rose colored glasses. If it was anyone else, with the same evidence presented at trial, the family would have been recommending a harsh sentence and a guilty vote. Poor Jenna was in the house yes but was not in the room when it happened .

[@chonqmonk]

@@cochip__5897 2 whole trials worth of juries unanimously agree that he murdered his wife; you, for some reason, choose to defend murderous monsters. So sad...

[@SidewaysInTraffic]

@@chonqmonk An unintelligent comment. How many people are wrongfully convicted by juries? Now a simple Google search...of 1927 people wrongfully convicted as of 2016, 76% were convicted by a jury, 42% falsely convicted of a homicide.

[@cochip__5897]

@CoffeeCrazy Confidence is not fact. So many on here seem to be forgetting the bar that is required, and that is so damn scary.

[@Maureen-q6w]

You cannot blame the ‘doctor’s daughter’ for supporting her father. She’s not lying - she’s just stating the scene her father set up for her to see. No child wants to believe one of the parents they love are capable of killing another parent they love. Give the daughter a break.

[@Beckzmama]

My thoughts too

[@anonymous-cd4cc]

She is not smart , who believes that her mother fell in the bathtube but she made blood stains up on the walls lol

[@mercedesbenzs600bash]

​@@anonymous-cd4ccEXACTLY,smh...

[@mercedesbenzs600bash]

Common sense that's all,can't be BLINDED by all that blood splatter outside of the shower,smh...

[@nativeamericanfeather9948]

1+1=2 it's clear he killed her mother. And they STILL support him.Srry but that's awful.Why give her a break & sugar coat the truth for adults? He's guilty & that's that.And his kids CHOSE to still defend him..disgusting.They aren't children but adults. They should defend the one that was dead..not killer. Whether they wanted to believe it or not..nobody did. But they are old enough to know the obvious. Especially after hearing & seeing the evidence. I call things what it's for. I don't sugar coat truth or baby adults. Call things for what they are

[@DBZluvz]

something i find funny is that the children and other family members were all him him him and i didn't hear any of them talk about the mother and that they are fighting for her, it was a stranger that fought for her life and death. disgusting!

[@girumzemichael704]

United front, no room for the discomfort doubt causes. Sad

[@sqrd3536]

An experienced doctor who wasted precious time dragging his dying wife to the bedroom instead of administering CPR? Is very strange to me. Even the daughter's account about the shower fall, doesn't make sense at all. The 911 call told the whole story.

[@yvonneedwards9407]

Exactly the 911 sealed it for me! Why did he move her twice? To explain all that blood in the room, plain and simple!!

[@daviegriffin3539]

The doctor changed the sheets, too. 😳 *GUILTY* ⚖️🧐

[@CynthiaSchoenbauer]

@@daviegriffin3539 Smart housecleaner. She is the objective person who remembers the important things without making excuses for anyone.

[@yuelingchu4361]

They could have changed the sheets for any number of reasons, his wife may have done it herself. I am not convinced the evidence was strong enough...🤔 ​@@daviegriffin3539

[@stephaniek1076]

@@CynthiaSchoenbauer I wonder if the sheets that thx housecleaner recalled were either found elsewhere or missing from the house.

[@angiep5514]

Leslie, the matriarch of the family, was betrayed by her own family including her own sister and brother. Thanks to the jury for getting it right...

[@ritaeichler2066]

They dont believe he did it. Maybe the daughter attacked her mom? There is reasonable doubt that he did it

[@jaknap1]

I bet the sister was jealous of her sister’s rich life and was probably glad that she is dead. Pathetic that she didn’t stand up for her dead sister.

[@angiep5514]

@@jaknap1 exactly 💯

[@RationalNon-conformist]

@jaknap1 Yes, it occurs more often than we’d like to admit . uncaring and jealous siblings exist.

[@jeanchampion671]

If she had vertigo, why didn’t she have safety bars and a rubber bath mat in the shower?

[@lizettemartinez819]

I believe Leslie told her neighbor “I’m so glad you’re still here” cause her soul knew she was going to get her justice soon 🥺😞🙏🏻

[@irinaslinky]

Wow 🙏

[@hayacinthyawriang2082]

Oh wow …. 🙏🏻

[@melissaoyarce5203]

Just like the documentary The Staircase… can’t believe these men actually think they’re gonna get away with these heinous acts… prayers for the families 🙏🏻🙏🏻💔💔💔

[@Riley0509]

They are narcissists. They have been able to get away with a lot based on their charm. They don’t think they will ever get caught because they think they are smarter than everyone else.

[@bkaips]

As a medical professional, we do not fling blood soaked items about like a crazy lunatic. We are fully trained to handle emergent situations with a cool head and professional demeanor. Even if an item was blood soaked, such as a shirt or gloves, the force of the item when taking off would have to be considerable to project the dispersed blood off said item, especially in an upward motion. Also, if her head were bleeding THAT bad to have soaked a shirt to the point of being able to eject off cloth by mere contact, there would've been more blood pooled on the carpet where her head would've been. The man is guilty as sin....

[@julesservantofjesus972]

Agree also that coffee cup would have been knocked over if people were throwing stuff around.

[@courierton9217]

Even the butchers also do not splatter blood like this. This guy is wild.

[@BimBop83]

You’re talking about your professional role. This was a very different situation, if it happened as the husband said. You absolutely can’t say what you’d do if you found your lifelong partner bleeding on the floor of the shower.

[@thediamondsinger1113]

Oh stop it! I wanna see you react in a calm level headed demeanor if it's your loved one that is in some type of traumatic accident. There's a reason they tell us to not be HCP for our loved ones! You don't automatically see them as patients just because you are a nurse, doctor/surgeon etc. So shut it!

[@Pauly421]

Hard agree.

[@toniacollinske2518]

For me it was the coffee. Sleeping separately, considering divorce, his business is spiraling, yet he brings her coffee in bed. Then says he went to check on her. I dont buy it. Couples considering divorce just arent that thoughtful to each other. Why go get his daughter to call 911 instead if doing it in the room with his wife? No doubts.

[@stephaniek1076]

You're exactly right---unless some other agenda is afoot, which seems to be the case in this episode.

[@geeangeles6600]

He needed to move the body to justify the blood in the bedroom so he had someone else make the 911 call coz it would be more suspicious of him to wait until he has moved the body back to the bedroom before calling 911.

[@carettamyers13]

Valid pointers!

[@preciousbillones2903]

This was my exact thought. He thought that the coffee will cover up his plot but it really just raised suspicion.

[@ronthompson95]

One person and one person was on the mothers side to ensure she got justice. This wonderful woman who was an examiner. The deceased sister wasn’t there to make sure her sister got justice.

[@hannahtyron142]

Daughter said "I was there!" She was home, but was NOT there There is no reason that blood splatter is all over the head board, CEILING, wall, night stand etc if she was not bludgeoned to death in the bedroom!

[@XTRABIG]

right. imagine blaming first responders, and the doctor taking off and tossing a bloodied shirt.

[@PinkGrammarGirl]

Ok, anyone else picture the EMTs flipping their gloves off with such flourish and force it spatters blood on the walls? That's so ridiculous.

[@RLU-wt8vi]

I'll give him, no room in the shower to administer aid. He moves her outside the bathroom. But then he moves her a THIRD time to right next to the bed. Why not to the middle of the floor? How do you get blood spatter on the lampshade, the blinds, the headboard and the opposite wall, on the OTHER side of the bed, when the victim is on the floor, with a queen/king size bed in between, without getting any splatter dropping on the sheets, pillow cases or comforter? Her head wound is not consistent with the edge of the bench, it's too wide. I believe the maid. They weren't the same sheets she put on the bed. He changed them. Even the daughter knew he shouldn't have moved the body. She believes what her father convinced her of while she was in a state of shock. They claim his "blood-soaked shirt" caused the cast off blood. If he was wearing that when the police arrived, they would have immediately taken it as evidence. The jury got it right. I can understand the daughter defending her father. But not Leslie's sister. I believe, in time, she'll come around.

[@jimwerther]

Sensible comment

[@aurorefrench7592]

Good comment, I agree.

[@softlifejasmine]

Right I'm surprised no one said that. Blood got everywhere else in that room but it missed the bedding 🤔🧐

[@RLU-wt8vi]

@@softlifejasmine Thank you. Stay well.

[@crazykitties7118]

Exactly, one move from the running water, then aid in the form of CPR. No reason for more moves to other areas, that’s what got me

[@iamwinningrightnow]

Many people have an outside personality, along with an inside personality. Ppl are MEAN to their loved ones, but great to those on the outside. All that dang blood for a fall in the tub? Madness...These dang lawyers. How long have you known this man? "He is the most honorable person i've ever met." The travesty is you not being able to prove he is not a murderer. His money is what is honorable. Get over yourself.

[@Memg007]

Are you talking about my husband? Lol. He's an Angel for everybody but me and he even said nobody would believe you, even his children don't know the real him fully.

[@tebelshaw9486]

"A saint abroad, A Devil at home."

[@livesouthernable]

I’m no blood spatter expert, but I have worked as a surgical tech, dealing with both liquid blood and objects saturated in blood, and I think the defense’s blood spatter explanation is ridiculous. Also, I fell in the bathtub last month. I did hit my head, but I also hit everything else on the way down. There should have been bruises all over that poor woman’s extremities.

[@jamesb.hallmd9899]

Also it is Hard to fall and hit the TOP of your head so hard that you could die from it. That is very hard to do. As a doctor, I don't want to believe he did it but I think the jury got it right.

[@livesouthernable]

@@jamesb.hallmd9899 I agree. The physics of it just don’t work.

[@AshCupric]

@livesouthernable, I’m so sorry you had a bad fall! That sounds so scary. I hope you are doing better now and fully recovered.

[@livesouthernable]

@@AshCupric thank you! I didn’t end up with anything more than a lot of bruises and soreness. I must have landed JUST right. It was scary, though. I admit it.

[@AshCupric]

@@livesouthernable glad you made it our relatively unscathed. That could have been so much worse. Glad you’re ok!

[@jeffreygreco9130]

blood all over, but NOT on the WHITE coffee cup...???? placed after the killing

[@loudloveen]

40:44 He's a terrible liar. No wonder he only spoke once. Killing your wife is bad. Making your own daughter see her mother's murdered body to use her in court is the sickest thing a father could do. Jenna will grow to hate him.

[@MarySharpe-r5c]

It’s devastating to be abused and have your family and friends not believe you. He murdered her and they all betrayed her. She nursed them, when sick, rocked them to sleep, kissed their boo boo’s, sacrificed for the, and this is the thanks she gets.

[@JdM84126]

You forget to mention she gave birth to their two children. A total betrayal. RIP Leslie

[@carolynnilsen9270]

It really is true that a narc dad can manipulate his children his way - and so sad too.

[@MarySharpe-r5c]

Well, yeah giving birth is a huge deal. I went through labor 23 hours followed by a c-section. It’s just devastating to think that your babies. The only people in your life u love more than anything could do this. @@JdM84126

[@awckid3]

No good deed goes unpunished.

[@ihaveadreamformykids4400]

The dad probably threatened them to get nothing from him if someone talks.

[@funfactsexplorer403]

How did this poor woman died without any family member defending her? If you have just ONE blood spatter out of the normal in a case this doctor, an experienced doctor handled his wife after she died, something is absolutely off here

[@yvonneedwards9407]

This MD knows you don’t move a fallen patient that far especially when neck injury is possible. He killed his wife for financial gain. It was crime of passion!

[@dranchd6571]

@@yvonneedwards9407 The passion of hate.

[@Memg007]

@@yvonneedwards9407Yup wifey was gonna leave him.

[@ronthompson95]

People with no soul like the deceased sister took a guilty man’s side. She died in the shower, really? There’s blood splatter on the top of the wall in a room in which she carried her and put her on the floor. Really? A man is carrying his wife into the bedroom, where does any man alive put his wife? On the floor? absolutely not. Every single one of us in the history of earth puts her on the bed. Why didn’t he? Because changing the sheets was the evidence he was using in his own cover-up. I don’t wanna hear any idiots say well she was dead, so why would he need to worry about comforting her by putting her on the bed. If you do you need to get a life.

[@SidewaysInTraffic]

So a MD doesn't have the right to panic and possibly splatter blood. Come on. I'm not saying he's innocent, but this is 100% not enough evidence to convict someone. I mean isn't this eerily similar to The Fugitive with Harrison Ford.

[@makirodriguez4990]

She ‘ slipped’ in the shower and the blood is all over the walls outside the shower.? Oookay. The family should accept the truth. Monsters comes in many forms

[@robyndendy]

Exactly like how did blood splatter get on the walls . I understand blood being on the floor but splatter on wall? No way

[@PinkGrammarGirl]

You watch this dude, hugging and holding his kids, and seeing his SIL speak on his behalf, knowing that he killed her. Creepy.

[@Meela234]

Let this be an eye-opening thought. If your spouse kills you, more than likely, your children will be here, taking the side of your murderer. They won't even try to seek justice for you. Such a sad, sobering thought. Smh

[@yep_2431]

I've been 15 years in EMS and I cant imagine medics flinging blood everywhere at a point of injury. We'd all have hepatitis.

[@tebelshaw9486]

Or worse.

[@carollara5047]

Is so sad that he played his daughter like a fiddle and she still doesn't get that she was used as an alibi for her Pappy the f*cking wife murderer. Hopefully one day the veil of stupidity will leave her and she'll realize her dad was nothing a cold-hearted murderer. I'm so glad that both juries got it right. 😉

[@Findpepperbridge]

I’d call my dad Papee when he was alive. Never seen anyone else say that before

[@CynthiaSchoenbauer]

@@Findpepperbridge My mother called my father "Poppie" , even though he was not her Pop. It reminds me of all the problems with the roles in my family that may have been going on in this family as well!

[@Nana-zk9sz]

Iam just gonna say it the 911 call said it all…….there’s blood everywhere even before he started moving the body

[@MEG-uw4zu]

The transportation of the body...

[@lesliesanchez3851]

Honestly I don’t know how his kids can defend him when the evidence is right there. If that was my father I would have disowned him in a heartbeat. I believe in evidence not people I don’t care who it is .

[@loveemotion4080]

I think in this case, the type of head trauma speaks for itself. Guilty. No doubt. The family is in denial… And how can we blame them? 💔

[@CynthiaSchoenbauer]

The injury speaks for itself. I like your opinion because you stay with the facts. A simple fall does not produce repeated injury until death. The shower stall, hard and slippery as it is, is just not THAT violent!

[@loveemotion4080]

@@CynthiaSchoenbauer indeed, and I believe this may have been one of the major pointers that got him twice convicted by the jurors.

[@jeanbeans7926]

Exactly. I understand their pain and their denial. this is not a natural sequence of events for human beings to. cope withl

[@maureenstevens6824]

The neighbor and previous coroner is absolutely correct and the main one in my estimation worked mainly for Leslie's justice. Without her dedication to her profession, I don't believe it would have ever been investgated.

[@piushalg8175]

I am astonished about the fact that this "accident" was not investigated more thoroughly in the beginning. It took an anominous letter and hints from the community that the marital life had been troubled to start a real investigation. But in the end justice was served.

[@srichey444]

If he was Innocent then 1. Why move her body? 2. Why change the sheets?, and 3. What happened to the bloody Shirt he took off? I worked in an Emergency Department for 13 years and seen ER Doctors work Trauma Patients throwing bloody Surgical instruments around and still there wasn't THAT much Blood splatter. It was all over the Walls, Floors, and Night stand, but the sheets were Pristine & Clean? Yeah right Buddy.

[@TheWickedWizard09]

The moving of the body is so suspicious, the fact that he is a doctor, hmmmm! Really suspicious!

[@noname-pi1je]

Why do some people like putting stone or concrete edges inside the shower that’s just crazy it might look nice but that’s so dangerous .

[@nikkijohnson4933]

I hate cases like this. Legally justice was served. But the mother wasnt really given it...

[@robyndendy]

And the absolute betrayal

[@nikkijohnson4933]

@robyndendy yes, truly. I hadn't thought of that. You're absolutely 💯 correct. Maybe someday, many years later when the children are a lot more mature & wise-? They'll realize they just wanted to believe in his innocence because it was easier & all they could handle at the time. But the older, mature siblings-? I'm at a loss for that hot mess. Maybe there was some " behind the scenes" benefits we're not aware of. I just couldn't imagine anyone standing behind that crime scene & circumstances...

[@Anna-Gunilla1792]

Interesting how very wealthy men are unlucky with the weird violent wives deaths...

[@jimwerther]

All of them? Just stop. I'd like to see a shred of evidence that rich men's wives disproportionately die under suspicious circumstances. Obviously those cases get disproportionate media attention. Or do you think 48 Hours covers every time some welfare mom dies in a drug den? PS - Not to be too technical about it, but the guy was out of money by then anyway. He had to sell his house to hire a lawyer.

[@CynthiaSchoenbauer]

I enjoy agreeing with you!

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Henry VIII has entered the chat

[@jimwerther]

Is that statistically true? I would like to see some evidence.

[@Anna-Gunilla1792]

@@jimwerther Well, I only write comments on KZbin that are verified by peer reviewed research.

[@jphwife]

Just knowing that “some” of the splatter could be accounted for in various ways implies that the rest of it cannot. I feel for Jenna. Her memories were overridden by her emotions. They are tainted now, and she will spend the rest of her life thinking that her dad is innocent, when he clearly is not. So sad for Leslie and the family, thank God both juries could see without rose colored glasses.

[@christopherpulliam8873]

The family has love blinders on...period.

[@blk5124]

That poor Leslie had way too many injuries for a straightforward fall. Opposite sides of her head? How could that ever happen?

[@yolandascholten2012]

How do you slip in the shower and sustain such a traumatic head injury to the top of your head?

[@AZ0986688]

The old "slipped repeatedly in the shower splatting blood all over the house again", eh?

[@jkayglasgow]

How stupid are their kids to believe their dad still didn’t do it? There’s blood spatter in the bedroom and he’s a doctor but moved the body…twice… 🤦‍♂️

[@milac1032]

Self preservation. Deep down they know.

[@terrorsquadlith]

yea, the missing bloody shirt .. As if police never get evidence to disappear..

[@LifeisANovel]

More like human. I'm sure there's times where you were in denial. Or looked "stupid". no one's exempt. Unless you're some perfect specimen. Highly doubt that though.

[@didi012578]

​@@terrorsquadlithPlease tell me what that would have to gain by doing that? You're a weird person.

[@terrorsquadlith]

@@didi012578 because it's happened a million times when cops lose evidence. You got proof that he himself hid the shirt ?? WHERE ?? He was in the house, cops came, it's not like he left somewhere alone and left his daughter in the house

[@MyMusiclover28]

This is a tragedy all around, but the saddest and craziest thing for me about this trial is the daughter’s testimony. First, her misrepresentation about the phone call with 911 regarding when she first saw the blood. Her timing was completely off….way off. Secondly, the blood-soaked shirt her father supposedly took off and flung out in the bedroom causing the blood spatters. That shirt was never found. How convenient! I believe she was coached (perhaps manipulated into believing it) by his defense team to say those things. My goodness!

[@diddlydooha]

about spattering... all I know is: I tried to open a bottle of red wine one night. The cork popped easily and there were just a few drops on the table and floor, so I thought, "oh wow, that was easy." I ignored everything else and just enjoyed my wine. Weeks later when doing a total clean of the kitchen, I noticed some brownish crops on the walls, toaster, fridge door, this, that, the other ... and became outraged, wondering what the HECK those things were. I thought my house was infested...until I started wiping things down with a vinegar solution I made. Come to know it ..... splatters of red wine ALL OVER my kitchen from that one night when the cork popped!!!! Watch out for splatterings killers... they tell a long, historical tale!

[@MamiOf3kids]

🤷‍♀️

[@BrokeMillionaire1]

48 Hours and Dateline are my favorite shows. Sorry to hear about her death. 😢

[@fionagregory9376]

My favourite too.

[@kigongowinnie4014]

Try someone they knew by Tamron hall on court tv

[@jimwerther]

48 Hours is up here.... Dateline is down here at the bottom

[@patmandew22]

​@@jimwertherlol they're essentially the same damn show

[@jimwerther]

@@patmandew22 They couldn't possibly be more different. 48 Hours has excellent correspondents, along with top-notch production values. Dateline mostly uses the worst host in true crime history, the execrable Keith Morrison, is made on the cheap with poor production, and repeatedly interrupts the story with Lester Holt wasting our time by adding nothing from the studio.

[@Alyssa-rf1fi]

It always speaks volumes the kind of defense attorneys they choose... Shows the kind of person they are. It's insane that this dude has totally gaslit his 4 children this much. Poor kids. They're gonna need so much therapy because of this man's greed.

[@Relaxinghypnoasmr]

Narcissistic family structures are a lot like cults. I have no doubt that girl was convinced to believe what he told her to.

[@Placidzzz]

birds of feather flock together. your friends or associates reflect who you are.

[@jaknap1]

Kids will be ok. They have money and America lives on materialistic stuff.

[@01denese]

Reminds me of the Manson girl's total support of Charlie

[@jeffcampbell2710]

The fact you are against a defense attorney speaks volumes. I hope you're charged for something one day. And don't you dare get am attorney. Guilty, no trial,

[@Gurudude420]

Idk if I personally could ever look at my father the same guilty or not. He was the only one there in that moment and I’d always have that shadow of doubt in the back of my mind. Even more so, how he handled her body when she passed is outrageous. I witnessed a man get hit in a dui accident and even though he was out cold in the middle of the street I knew I couldn’t move him in case of neck or back injuries. I feel that is or atleast should be common knowledge.

[@terrorsquadlith]

he was in shock. If you saw someone you loved dying all your fake knowledge would go out the window. It's easy to pretend like you'd do everything 100 percent by the book. It should be common knowledge that people act frantic under huge stress, but here you are proving otherwise

[@didi012578]

​@@terrorsquadlithChill out. Gahd.

[@EmmaKnightleyNo1]

​@@terrorsquadlithDo respectfully disagree. Most people don't panic. Many do nothing, which can be bad in another way (afraid to do CPR), or freeze in panic. That, yes. Many do the right things. That a doctor panics is highly unlikely. But then, he knew she was dead, so 'no harm done', and he had to create that bloodtrail.

[@terrorsquadlith]

@@EmmaKnightleyNo1 what are you talking about.. It's very likely, you think a paramedic would be 100 percent the same if they saw their child dying in a car crash and just some random person ? OF COURSE NOT. Humans are not robots. Also it's a situation at home, something happens that you werent expecting at all, your loved one fell and is dying in front of you, that's like the most panic inducing situation you could think of and you pretend like because he's a doctor there's no way he could have paniced

[@jimwerther]

​@@terrorsquadlith I don't buy it. A 35 year medical veteran doesn't take a patient on a sightseeing tour of the house because she's his (estranged) wife. That makes no sense. I'm not even saying that I'm convinced of guilt, although I do lean that way. But people who've dealt with medical situations for most of their lives don't suddenly turn wildly irrational at home. Not in that way, they don't.

[@atamagashock]

I think the story behind the blood is exactly what the detective described. The daughter saw all the blood before seeing her mother, which means she was bleeding before she was in the shower, or atleast that is what it initially sounded like. But then it’s made out that she didn’t see any blood at first and it wasn’t till she saw her father carrying her back to the bed. Her injury just seems too violent to be sustained from a fall in the shower. I understand the damage that shower bench could do to a human skull, but it would take a serious fall and impact to do as much damage as she sustained. Seems the only way that happens, is if she slipped from outside the shower and fell head first on the corner of the bench. She would have to have the most violent slip and perfect landing from inside the shower to create that impact.

[@tiger.wolf.2033]

Exactly! 👍👍👍👍👍

[@cristinabianca185]

Losing both parents because one of them is a narcissist… RIP beautiful soul…

[@kambrose1549]

If he had been any regular guy no one would have any doubt about his guilt. The sheets and the missing shirt the moving the body the whole charade would have been instantly obvious to the police. Very sad end for another woman who just wanted a life away from her husband.

[@drunkdadchronicles]

all that blood from "slipping in the shower"? i call b.s.

[@linkib]

You clearly have never seen how blood a head wound produces.

[@jeannineterese1037]

How could her daughter lie about what she saw? She betrayed her mother.

[@jeanbeans7926]

Trauma, it's because she had recently lost her mother and her psyche couldn't cope yet with losing her father too and accepting him as a murderer.

[@SloverOfTeuth]

She probably believes what she said and what she thinks she remembers.

[@tylerbean542]

She wants her father’s innocence to be true so much, she believes it. Sad…

[@snowbunny783]

How can you be so sure she’s lying? I believe she saw what she saw

[@officialmkamzeemwatela]

Because she has been formed under an immoral system where she can justify lying

[@Marieaf71]

for me he was guilty with the blood spattern ! he never explain how the blood got to the wall on top of the bed, cause the shirt doesnt make sence to ME! Guilty if i was a juror!

[@danarzechula3769]

Glad i don't have a sister😢 what a betrayal

[@01SaltyWitch]

Oh my god, how could her children stand with their mother’s killer?

[@Gurudude420]

I feel like it would be a hard spot to be in. You lost your mother in a horrible way and now you’re looking to lose your father. Our brains have a funny way of keeping us blind for our own ‘protection’. I remember one story from I believe like 10 years ago, give or take, where this mom took her daughter’s killers side almost the whole time even after conviction and sentencing until she saw his interview with a crime reporter.

[@Ibochic1]

@@Gurudude420 I agree it’s hard but nah…. I’m standing with the truth. Not supporting my father if he did it.

[@jakeherter]

Could be many many reasons. She could genuinely believe it. Could be a cold-blooded calculation on who's going to be able to help her in the future. Maybe she's literally being bribed. But reasons exist.

[@terrorsquadlith]

there's no actual proof he did it.

[@didi012578]

​@@terrorsquadlithNot according to two different juries. Why are you so intent on defending this man?

[@einstein1102]

Condolences to the family. Sad story. I suspect the motive is that the doctor didn't want to lose half of his stuff, especially being close to retirement age, had the wife went through with the divorce.

[@Memg007]

Bingo

[@AndrewTannerMusic]

I wouldn’t want to lose half of my stuff that took my entire life to acquire either…and all because a woman didn’t “feel it” for me anymore??? Let this be a lesson to all the men watching this and paying attention…there’s absolutely ZERO upside to getting married. Anything a married man can do, so can an unmarried man. It’s all risk and zero reward. And for what? You don’t need a marriage certificate to have a happy, healthy, long-term, committed relationship with a woman. You don’t need a marriage certificate to cohabitate with a woman. You don’t need a marriage certificate to have and raise your children with a woman. So what is the point of the marriage certificate if I don’t need it for anything??? The point of it is to ensure women have an incentive to leave for no reason and take half your wealth/assets away. NOT worth getting married. EVER. Be smart guys. Think with your big head, not your little head in your pants. Don’t think with your lust/attraction like women do. We’re better(and smarter) than that.

[@shimmeringchimps3842]

​@@AndrewTannerMusicOk incel

[@Thezaza1101]

​@AndrewTannerOfficial no one is reading all that, especially the 1ncels you're trying to talk to

[@razzaa01]

This is stupid a fall in the shower will not result in blood everywhere especially on overy wall in the house

[@williamedward8853]

Thought the same thing. That alone should say it all . Id think 🤔

[@gritskennedy5007]

Justice isnt popular....but its got to be known the truth always comes out.

[@Chubby_auntie]

What if Jenna did it?

[@RaleighLink]

It’s so obvious that he murdered her… his bloody shirt and the old bed sheets were never found. The blood spattered all over the bedroom and ceiling goes beyond performing cpr in the bedroom. So sick that the kids wouldn’t defend their mom.

[@NormaBracey-u4d]

The husband said that Lesley had fallen in the shower. He moved her from the shower door to the floor next to the bed. How does blood splatter get on the headboard and wall above the bed.? His children believe that he is innocent. They seem to be more interested in being by their fathers side everyday in court than, getting together to hire someone to find their mothers killer since they feel that their father is innocent. It's sad that Lesley had no one on her side. Not even her own daughter nor her own sister. They are truly brainwashed.

[@geminisunleomoon]

My mother once slipped and fell in the shower and it left a bruise on her entire face that turned black. The doctor ordered antibiotics for her. It was horrible, it looked like she'd been beaten. I was at work when it happened and I always assisted her in the tub. I dunno what possessed her to get in there alone but anyone who has an elderly parent who can barely walk or stand, never leave them alone in the tub and use a shower chair for safety.

[@sbrooke210]

I'm sorry that happened but these people aren't elderly. I don't think they needed a babysitter or a shower chair

[@snowbunny783]

You bringing facts to the court of public opinion only pisses people off who like to scream into their echo chamber. The people who think the doctor killed his wife don’t care about her vertigo diagnosis or the daughters testimony.

[@coffee1940.]

Blood thinners

[@geminisunleomoon]

@@coffee1940. if I remember correctly she was already on Coumadin

[@annarodriguez6808]

It drives me crazy when people say THE PERFECT FAMILY, nobody is perfect. That's what they said about Laci Peterson and so many more. His family is in total denial.