4WD Power Wheels Go Kart Build Pt. 3 | Trailing Arm Rear Suspension

[@kratoseus309]

I feel like 2 of the bearings, plus the chain tension system is way heavier than 1 heim joint and a chain tensioner lol BUT it’ll be fine😎

[@47MasoN47]

I like the trial and error method you guys build by. I love GHPC's builds, they're incredible, but something I could never do because of the engineering involved. Not all of us are professional designers and have to just fiddle with stuff until it works. It's great seeing you guys try something. The "rest of us" get to learn along with you and it benefits us all!

[@kpopRC]

why don't you make a level work bed. you could create a heavy duty steel frame on feet you can adjust.

[@commieasmr8469]

KpopRC? wow!

[@commieasmr8469]

They could also just get a welding table.

[@1one3_Racing]

You think that would have their first project, but I guess bitching about the workshop is more fun

[@Ratkill9000]

@@1one3_Racing Problem is high quality weld tables are stupid expensive. They could ask around weld shops if they have an old one they would like to get rid of either at a discounted price or close to free. But these guys also have limited shop space. With that CNC plaz table they just got, they'll be running out of room fast.

[@crazyeyez1502]

They definitely need a good fab table. Maybe if they ever get that new shop built.

[@EthanFabz]

You guys have inspired me to do my own power wheels build.

[@Calvinhayes37]

Just buy a bigger one not small 6v ones

[@wrenchinrust4741]

I’m about to probably start one now too. Everyone else has. Just don’t know which body I’m gonna go for. 🤔🤔 probably a Chevy. Still finishing up on my own project at the moment. Guys check me out !! Like and subscribe and tell me what you think please ✊🏼💯 I love all your guys builds can’t wait to see the trophy truck finally move around

[@loganjoh8930]

Wrenchin Rust you got mine

[@la_plata3588]

That's laughable ghpc moto mule and many others but these guys are the inspiration

[@EthanFabz]

la_Plata. Yup 👍

[@NOWAY-jw3iq]

I like the fact that your shop is not all fancy and full of tools and you guys have to improvise, to me it is more realistic of the regular guy/gal trying to do something in there garage. Keep up the great work guys.

[@Gixie-R]

Im thinking about using two long leaf springs front axle to rear axle along the chassis cills rather than using springs. Saves a ton of space.

[@danhessler]

I think thats not a bad idea

[@jasonpetrich4141]

Might be to heavy with a smaller motor,

[@Gixie-R]

@@jasonpetrich4141 but you wouldnt need trailing arms and springs ect as the leaf does it both. A shock on its owns lighter. Hey its just a thought in a different direction.

[@jasonpetrich4141]

@@Gixie-R 👍 true

[@Gixie-R]

@@danhessler Just finding some long enough but not to stiff for the light weight of the buggy but still curved enough for some travel.

[@TrulyUnfortunate]

I see the chain coming off constantly.

[@jonboyking7885]

I agree

[@ollilehtonen6764]

For sure. Apply resistance and torque to that flex-test and you have a broken chain.

[@TrulyUnfortunate]

@@ollilehtonen6764 And excessive wear on the sprockets.

[@octane613]

Nah, Senderella from the grindhard guys is set up the same way, but with a tensioner, and it never launches chains.

[@ollilehtonen6764]

@@octane613 True🤔 She ain't exactly the same but a live axle nonetheless. A spring-loaded tensioner is a must have. I suppose John and Ike'll figure that one out after the first test ride, hehe.

[@vintagetintrader1062]

Have a look at old Henry Ford designed setup used on the rear suspension on a Model A. You triangle mount both arms from the outer edges of the axle to a common centre ball mount in the body. Does away with all the bearings in the centre as you did. Design really goes back to the horse and buggy era.

[@lorenmars5244]

Ferdinand Porche and Carroll Shelby over here..... Wow fellers! Really impressed. Like really really.

[@Tampaboys]

You need the shocks more straight up and down I think guys

[@reviewaccount469]

Exactly. A vertical load will more effectively transmit the force on the shock and it would work out to be much less rigid. A perfectly vertical shock may jack the body higher up in the air than they would like though unless they design around.

[@Tampaboys]

Review Account ya they could move the top mounts pointing to where ever they like really when doing a custom build like

[@bassmandave5865]

Strait up and down is the right way to mount the shocks. The way you have them mounted and now they’re just putting themselves in a bind as they compress.

[@Tampaboys]

BassmanDave that’s right bud

[@donanders2110]

Those shocks mounted at that angle is stupid AF. I have no idea why they didnt just go straight up to the frame.

[@Elegantaura1]

Hey guys. Just wanted to say that I live for your videos and to keep on the grind.

[@johnarrington5522]

Cantilevered rear shocks! pivot gives you ultimate shock adjustments. And they look cool.

[@panda-threemonkeysracing2116]

I am loving this build. Can't wait to see you guys crawlin!

[@bassmandave5865]

It seems the way you have those shocks mounted now, as they compress they’re just putting themselves in a bind thus making them seem too stiff. Straight up and down would resolve your body interference issues and make the shocks work like they should. Just my two cents worth. I do enjoy your videos.

[@evanisenhour1551]

Sitting here listening to them talk about nothin in the shop being squared while looking at the perfectly squared cabinets in the background 🤣 3:02

[@MrHomeland]

Ya'll need to build a welding/jig table to fab up your projects on. Great channel, keep up the great content.

[@NicholasCollie]

I don't have a problem with go power sports, but for off road builds you guys gotta get some different shocks. Maybe find some used snowmobile shocks. Great video btw!

[@mikemorine7670]

Pretty fun build you guys got going on so far! It's awesome to see how far a little bit of imagination takes you guys! How many of your builds have turned out how you imagined them? Ok maybe a couple... But come on, the adventure is in the build!

[@SoLowBudget]

Can't wait for the finished product

[@MOBOTEmu]

Yep, it should be a banger!

[@danielgordon7727]

Try some light weight trailer leaf springs. Just an idea 💡 great build

[@noiiaz96]

Remember in one of your previous builds, you were using the same shocks and the reason they were so stiff is because you mounted it at an angle. If you could remove some angle from the shocks to straighten them, it would loose some of that stiffness! Great job as usual guys!

[@kshepthedrummer]

Another option you could play with is "1/4 elliptical springs". It's basically half of a leaf spring for each corner. Also as far as sway bars go, they make small sway bars for the front of sport quads. That would be perfect sized if you need one.

[@neep401]

A lot of people saying this and that will not work on this build and i to can see some small problem but nothing that not easily fixed personal think it's a great build and look forward to see it progresses

[@johnmorgan1629]

It's all about the clearance Clarence. Roger Roger. It's all about the moment vector Victor. Surely you can't be serious about the chain tension. I am serious and stop calling me Shirley.

[@jasonpetrich4141]

Ooooh airplane. Showing your age!!!!! Lol 😆

[@traveln4x4]

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[@Avetho]

@@jasonpetrich4141 Amazing movie, that was. So many absurd and gut-busting little details! Like who reads an oil dipstick under a bonnet on the nose of the airplane? But the real hero was the Automatic Pilot, you can tell he was protagonist material in the end as he flew away with his lover into the sunset XD

[@jasonpetrich4141]

@@Avetho hahahahahaha so true

[@mowler8042]

on the rear of the sprocket maybe a chain guard to prevent it from coming off? or snap... cool build!!

[@tommylongman25]

I hope you guys will change the shock mounts on the chassis. Those bolts are going to get twisted right off after a couple hard rides. Love what you did with the centre live axle for articulation, definitely had me scratching my head for a bit. Heim joint might have been lighter overall, but I cant wait to see this concpet running!

[@LONELYCLONER]

Sweet! You’ve basically made my mini Jeep suspension but with more bad assery!!

[@garchompy_1561]

sad you couldnt make it for the overlanding trip, but it is what it is, and you bet there'll be another in the future. Keep up the good work

[@nate63892]

Excited to see how this turns out. Good to see you try new designs

[@masonpropst9580]

I got my first predator engine and I just want to say you guys were a huge inspiration and help to taking that step and I thank you a lot it's so much fun

[@francispineault9045]

Hey guys you have to put a transmission in this thing for a low gear ratio great video continue that bronco

[@rogertalley7944]

I'm telling you if you will mount those shocks straight up and down it will work much better..mountings shocks at an angle work great for independent suspension. You got room to mount those shocks straight up. You have great ideas

[@garethwick1972]

An idea for squaring up your axles.... paint a straight line on the floor and sit the kart next to it making sure that the front and rare of kart is equally spaced away from the line take 90 degrees from the line to get your square 90 from that. Chur from nz

[@jmablaster]

Definitely gonna need to add flat stock to that central pivot point on the frame. It’ll also help the frame from twisting as much

[@Tampaboys]

I just started working on my mini reverse trike thanks to you guys inspiring me to get to work on it thanks for all the awesome videos guys

[@tylerivester876]

You can use a plumb bob to mark center on that frame. They’re handy for setting up axles

[@VMPLAYSonYT]

I really can't wait to see how you gonna do the steering with this guys, Good luck.

[@Confuzd70]

looks good guys cant wait to see it all together

[@allenchenault509]

This may help you on future builds . I use a 4x8 piece of plywood laying flat on level floor to keep my project square . This gives me the opportunity to make precise measurements . Hope this helps your friend from south central TN .

[@lylekehrer6159]

This is going to be a sweet build.. well not going to be, but IS! Can't wait for the outcome already. I hope that you have a good crawling spot to take it out on!? You planning on putting or rigging up some sort of winch for the front? That'll add to the authenticity of the iconic Bronco, a real work horse!

[@kaynec3079]

I love when Isaac says dang it bobby it's now my steam name. Keep up the great work

[@krproductions3200]

You guys are such an inspiration to me

[@ElCidSilverBlade]

LOL I love your explanations, and brainstorming on how this is going to work. Then at the end it's just.. "IT"LL BE FINE". LOL

[@Hamsteren91]

I think it's gonna throw the chain of every time it gets full articulation. But it's a very cool frame /setup. 👌

[@samsgarage1716]

You guys do great work. I’m always ready to go work on go karts after watching your videos.

[@twocvbloke]

"Not one straight line", well, at least it has character, as an estate agent would claim... :P

[@lukemckenna9228]

This should be a Netflix serious so I can watch it all day instead of waiting. Love the videos tho.

[@techhead976]

Or you can just continue to watch on KZbin...

[@J.Ray1776]

Paint a ➕ on the foor use bob weights to center it up. String line down each side helps too, after the wheels are mounted on the axles.

[@quentinkave8442]

i cant wait for more vids on this thing cant wait to see how you guys do the front end i would not change anything so far gr8 built keep it up!!!!

[@EJ-74]

Can't wait to see the first rip In my opinion should have went with four wheeler suspension drive tran steering etc

[@zkhydro4985]

3:30 measure from end to end find center then use a plumb bob to transfer it to the dip in the frame. (Ps for those that don't know what a plumb bob is, it's a weight on a string basically.)

[@weldingwood2890]

Guys invest on a square laser level it works. Hello from south Texas by the way.

[@K_M_M_G]

Just a heads up guys, typically shocks or coil overs like the reactionary forces parallel to the shock or near parallel. I would be worried if you hit a large enough bump at the mounted angle you’ll break the piston and/or shaft. Just an FYI, love the channel

[@LukeTheJoker]

Looking forward to seeing how you do the front drive with the steering.

[@zanderhutchings8198]

Love the content guys, you guys are the reason I got into karting!

[@lilhack69ify]

Rear chain is going to pop off a lot. Better off with 2 separate trailing arms. Also dual rear chains. Maybe try a v- belt with the current single solid axle.

[@trafficcone7547]

whooooo jhon got over his "DAWG" phase

[@donaldwolfe8387]

4 link would would allow flex and keep the axle centered. Also would move the bars out of the way of the chain.

[@leveltate]

Your frame work looks like it has a twist in it

[@braidenkane258]

Since I've started watching you guys I've thought of building my own stuff a working on stuff so I did love your guys videos keep up the good work

[@councilhousecreations8035]

Awsum build guys! Lovin the flex and light weight approach! Cant wait to c ur front axle build gunna be sick!! 😎👍

[@BIllMcCambridge]

Just watched pumpkin chunking episode. Might be time for a revisit on that. Maybe a tilitson powered air compressor air cannon? Or a true centricifical whirlagig thrower.

[@patricktolmie6985]

Hey John hey Isaac keep up the good work guys I like your videos get on your cross cart I want to see that done

[@joelrobe5498]

Using a tractor PTO box (Just like the Rat Rod Wagon) as a Diff for the back and front axles might be a way better lifestyle choice for this build. Might take 3 of them actually. One centered for the motor to xfer from chain drive to shaft drive then one at each axle. Then use 4W independent suspension.

[@crawlerspacercllc9982]

Motor on the axle solves chain issue, and check the link mounts against a Axial SCX102 set up and that might help link geometry.

[@lloydbaker7099]

Really looking good guys

[@honorrolls5415]

You guys are very impressive and I’ve watched you from the beginning and you have come a long way stuff keeps getting better and better and more professional but always fun and entertaining take care Bill in Ft Wayne Indiana

[@cashmoney8607]

More content needed love the content I would just love to see more keep up the great work

[@jasondonaho1685]

I haven't ran out of Dr pepper!!! I survive on Dr pepper lol. I live in central Texas too, so we couldn't tell if there ever was a shortage because it's made right down the road

[@colingotch1871]

I love seeing how out of square everything is with these guys. Nothing is parallel or square to anything else. Poor guys.

[@marknilsson5782]

Pleanty of Dr. Pepper here in southern Calif. I drink about 10 2liters a week and no problem getting it!✌️😎

[@EdWolfram]

TSC draw bar for a 3 point would make a decent sway bar and comes adjustable length with hiem joints on each end.

[@lando1995]

Starting my own powerwheels as well been waiting on the next episode

[@jasonpetrich4141]

That thing is very nice!! This will be like the fj 40 that guy built with the 525 ktm preditor motor. And it's sick. He just went overlanding with grindhard plumbing co.youtube. you guys need to jump into a 450r or bigger atv motor on a go cart sometime, you will LOVE the power and torque.

[@JackPNess-kz1in]

I’ve been waiting for weeks for another video of this

[@adamknox4094]

It's going to be so cool and you guys are done

[@fan1701]

It's the ghost pro camera! 👀

[@codykahn2173]

Can’t wait to see how this one turns out👍👍

[@zephgage3694]

my new favorite build here

[@jamesglenn2006]

Dr.Pepper flowing free in Canada. 😁 Love the Bronco built guys 👍 Edit: by camera angle, it looks like the panhard is too long, left side wheel is closer to the frame than the right side. ? Good work guys🍻

[@Tampaboys]

Yes sir it’s almost time now guys looks really good

[@RonSales]

Got my order, *10 stars* you both Rock**********..

[@edmondpecotjr.8888]

"what's up Ike"??? lol that was fresh lol...

[@matthewjohnson2495]

You need a set of front Honda 300EX shocks or a set of Yamaha Warrior shocks or a set of Honda 400EX shocks and either of them will work perfectly for your application cause I’ve used them in very similar situations and according to what length you need the 300 shocks are the shortest and the 400 shock are the longest being 16 inch’s and I’m pretty sure the 300 shocks are 14-1/2 inches long and all 3 sets of shocks are easily found for rather affordable prices and they ride good and will take one hell of a beating. Hope this helps✌🏼

[@thiccpapies1897]

These videos are so Jamed packed with awesome information

[@outdoorsandstuff1516]

Love these vids,my b day is in a week and I'm getting a Coleman bt200x, I think it's gonna be sick so I'm hyped to ride it,

[@ezra423]

Happy birthday!!!!!!!!

[@Todd_G_FPV]

Happy birthday mine is the 29th this month! I'll be 33 and still a kid at heart lol

[@Hellsong89]

16:20 You could turn some urethane bushings for the shocks, but i'm not sure about this whole setup.. Maybe still go back and use those heim joints

[@Todd_G_FPV]

Only thing square in that shop is you two hahaha just kidding 😂 lol good job on all the projects! Been watching for atheist a year or so now and always happy to see what you have going next.

[@fidellugo3383]

you guys need a 6 foot level.. must have in a fab shop 👍

[@charltoncarter8142]

That thing is going to have the G-body shuffle down pat.

[@ernestrollins383]

Looks like you guys missed the overland trip. Hope you get to go on it next year. :)

[@marjandefeijter4304]

if they go and do the overland trip they should realy get a stronger/bigger engine with more cc lik grind hard plumming co the have what i think is a 660cc ktm engine

[@stevepenix4100]

As mentioned by some already the shocks should be straight up and down. It would seem that the rear locating arms would work better attached to the sides of the frame, forget all the triangles. Articulation with the live axle to the extent you envision is going to be interesting.

[@40Glassman]

always one bad idea after another.. i love it

[@harrisonsmetana2506]

cant wait to see that go through the grand prix.

[@hotshtsr20]

With the lean on those shocks, you have decreasing spring rate, meaning the more body roll it sees, the less the shocks/springs will resist roll. If looking to reduce rate, just move the lower mount closer to the chassis centerline, but either way you want it to continually get closer to 90* until bump limit is met, not get farther from 90*.

[@goatslayerwp]

The minute that thing twists like that its chunking that chain.

[@ryanschanfish279]

As a long time fan and Texan, I assure you there is plenty of Dr.P in TX. Ill save you some Dr.P cream soda and give it to yall the next time Pate SM happens.

[@prmovieelite7240]

Nice to see you guys back 😁😁

[@kennethdispain1807]

Looking awesome guys

[@jeremygagnon9277]

those wheels and tires came right off a snowblower.