5'9 Vertical Jump Progress

[@Hobe23]

A lot of you guys have asked me what workouts I do. So, I made a new video about the top 3 lifts I do that has helped my vertical. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5eUlJyZmtaFpKc

[@baholicec4909]

Hobé I’m 5’10 and I’m like you when u started l can almost touch rim but what workouts do I need to do because I’m tryna increase my vert alot be specific

[@Hobe23]

Watch the vid! I outline the three workouts I did that helped me out the most.

[@yungbanz2226]

Hobé how old are you now?

[@encisozunigaeduardodaniel2302]

what exercises did you do to achieve the jump?

[@michaellong1418]

I'm 5'9" and just got my first dunk

[@taod01]

Bro I’m 6’1.75 and I can’t touch rim and backboard

[@jomarilopez2554]

Sir what is ur proper training for vertical jump?

[@dyterrianrainey4289]

Keep going bro I’m 5’9 dunking off vertical

[@princeky150]

@@taod01 wth 😂 I could dunk easily when I was 5’10. You probably have shit form. I knew a kid who was about 6’3 and could barely touch mesh but changed his form over the summer and could dunk. He probably did some workouts as well but still a big improvement in a small period of time.

[@princeky150]

@@taod01 if your vert still isn’t higher since you wrote the comment just work at it and trust me it will come quickly

[@natekofficial]

0:50 the rim said🥴

[@Hobe23]

😂

[@simplyjulian1302]

I want to see more of this not gonna lie

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

Ahh hmm... I am 5' 10" and did the same back in the 90's, all it took was leg strengthening and lots of jumping practice, eventually i was able to dunk. The way i saw it, if muggsey bogues at 5'3" could dunk, so can i and i did.

[@Hobe23]

100%

[@duckdavihn4696]

You mean spud webb

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

@@duckdavihn4696 NO ... Muggsey Bogues ... while your phone is in your hand, ask alexa to look up his name and research him.

[@duckdavihn4696]

@@ACommenterOnKZbin muggsey bogues can’t dunk

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

@@duckdavihn4696 How old are you son ..??

[@giuseppearcelo]

This is motivating AF! I'm slowly working on my vertical jump as well, hopefully a couple of months from now, I'll be able to dunk over someone defending me haha

[@Hobe23]

Thanks man! That's the goal!

[@jhoncanivel421]

Name of the song pls?haha

[@bladerblack5362]

So how’s the progress?

[@LetGo707]

hows the progress going?

[@adamberg2967]

You’ll Get It Man🥇

[@Hobe23]

Thanks!

[@panukornrojanasomsith3304]

I'm 5'10 and I can't even touch the backboard, go for him.

[@SportsCy]

at least you are recording your progress. this is good mate. im working on my pen ultmate too! i'm 5'9" as well keep going!!!

[@Hobe23]

Thanks bro! I still have much to improve. You too! 💪

[@rtsbass7829]

I'm 5'3'' and i need a 40 inches vertical jump to only touch the rim OMG And i need a 46 inches vert to do a dunk F**K Now my vert is 28 inches 12 april of 2020: 30 already)

[@Hobe23]

Yah, it mainly depends on your vertical reach. What is your vertical reach? 46 inches seem way too high to dunk a basketball. Statistically speaking, you would need to be in the 99% percentile.

[@lundoren5240]

Hobe he’s short... I need a 39 inch vert just to dunk and I’m 5’10” with a 7’3”

[@Hobe23]

​@@lundoren5240 Yeah, it makes sense. I do think 46 inch makes sense given his height. But also, there are short people with unreasonable long reach because they may have a longer wingspan. Nonetheless, 46 inches is a ridiculously high vertical.

[@Hobe23]

@WILLIAM GREY If your reach is 7'8, you do need 28 inches to touch the rim (Assuming your body is at a straight position). So, it's always + 1-2 inches more to consistently touch the rim because no one is actually in a straight position when in the air.

[@РоманГеворкян-т8ж]

@@Hobe23 im 5'9 as well, i have same african origines, and i think that i have very long hands, my standing reach is like 7'8,5 i can barely touch 10'5 but still can't dunk tho

[@urbrodieaj2363]

Bro I’m Asian and the same height, let’s see who gets their first dunk imma keep progress on my channel aswell. Keep grinding

[@Hobe23]

For sure! Good luck!

[@troliskimosko]

bro this man has serious hops I can tell he had the ability to get ridiculous hops eventually

[@adamberg2967]

Nice Man! You’ll Get It!🥇 Also Thanks For Including The Rim Heights.

[@Hobe23]

No problem! Gotta be honest with the heights to know when your'e improving.

[@adamberg2967]

Hobe 100% Correct👍

[@rickyramirez4241]

Keep pushing brother, you’ll get it this year! (If you haven’t already)

[@Hobe23]

Thanks for the motivation!

[@Kobedagoat24]

Hopefully I could dunk in a couple of months🙏❤️

[@Marvel2328]

Oh wow i did a double take when I recognized that Waterloo court! I go there too, so this is extra inspiring

[@harrychoi21]

Haha is that the Icon court?

[@Brrrrrrq-q9m]

I’m 5’8, 7’4 Standing reach and only need 3 more inches to touch rim. Planning to put in the work once the quarantine ends. (I’m already doing squats and stuff rn, just wanna go to the gym for weighted training)

[@Hobe23]

Don't wait for the quarantine to end, there's a lot of ways to improve with bodyweight training. It's a common misconception that weight training will somehow change everything. Good luck!

[@jholianisaactagumpama3617]

I'm 5'7 16 years old my standing reach is 7'1 and i can touch and grab the rim with my hands, there was a time that i touched it with 2 hands but i can't dunked it. After corona lockdown i will try to get my first Dunk🙌

[@Hobe23]

You got this!

[@wellzer4612]

Damn you go you will get it someday. Do I'm probably not the one that should say this since I'm 5'9 7'6 standing and can't touch rim xD

[@jholianisaactagumpama3617]

@@Hobe23 check out my video i just posted for proof

[@Hobe23]

Hey, that's dope! You got bunnies for sure.

[@natarajankrishnan8999]

Man, the last jump, you were flying🤟

[@Hobe23]

def one of my highest jumps!

[@ralphchehab7651]

good job man keep going

[@Hobe23]

Thanks bro!

[@nicolasgains]

I'm almost 5'8", but have a 7'7" reach (i've been told that that is long for My height but idk). I need about 30 inches to touch the rim and around 36 inches to dunk. I'm currently at a 28-29 inch vert and hopefully this year I can get my first dunk

[@rohanm7539]

This sounds crazy I see a 5'6" do what you do and im trying to get consistent with dunking now

[@NPC-qo9fr]

You stupid or sum. I see a low ass rim

[@isaacoliveira33]

I only trained my core and upper body for like 1 month but this week i started too do leg training and man today i almost touched the hoop and that got me motivated to keep going and this video helps to visualise my goal thanks

[@Jovanixqb]

Did core help?

[@isaacoliveira33]

@@Jovanixqb yhea i think so but i used to skate and did a lot of ollies so my legs got alot stronger and explosive and i also got lighter from burning fat. So does core help ?.... IDK probably if you think about it when you jump you use your whole boddy to give you momentum and push yourself up so i think core is a part of it

[@Jovanixqb]

@@isaacoliveira33 what was ur height and how high could u touch on a basketball hoop

[@isaacoliveira33]

@@Jovanixqb i am 5'9 and i can touch the rim. I am still the same heigth tought

[@Jovanixqb]

@@isaacoliveira33 oh I’m 5’4 and can touch bottom of backboard I’m tryna touch rim

[@damjanmitrovic6513]

5'9 15 year old and im stuck at touching the rim. I need 36 inch vertical to dunk but i cant seem to improve. Im at 31 inch vertical rn

[@ethanranaweera6002]

I am 6' foot with a 8' standing reach and a 2 foot vertical, I can touch the rim but to dunk I need atleast a foot of vertical.

[@Hobe23]

2 foot vertical is very reasonable. You need to be at least 6 inches above the rim to dunk in my opinion. So, getting to 28-32 inches is very possible given the right amount of training.

[@fakeguccishirt]

5’10 freshman dunking.It’s a blessing

[@Hobe23]

You are blessed with good genes and hard work. Keep going at it!

[@rabbit407]

@1:24 where is that court?

[@sascha_3437]

Damn bro I'm at the exact some point you've been at the beginning of the vid! Also same height and everything, thanks for the motivation! I hope imma have the same succes with my vertical soon!

[@Hobe23]

No problem! Best of luck!

[@dnr3689]

same

What editing tool do you work on your computer? How do you film? Absolutely love the vids man! Keep up the hops

[@Hobe23]

I used imovie on this video and now final cut pro x. Thanks!

[@hadramcoltzau6135]

eYAH ALL THe best toi the ,ittle fellow just getting around some of the dunking

[@mosescuh3644]

If I fix my form I'll easily hang on the rim your old form looks a lot like my current gotta put that work in

[@Aly_._]

Nice video! What did you do to improve hops?

[@17jk65]

Can I get some tips for improving form? your form improved definitely a lot. I find it quite difficult to speed up constantly and make a long penultimate

[@Hobe23]

I will make a video on jump technique soon.

[@normaestherbarenoromero7487]

My brother was a sports buff and I introduced him this vertical jump program to improve his vertical jump. He likes the program after reaching a big development. He is not someone who loves reading, so it gives me great delight to see him having this book around - dog-eared from being read over and over. It is not hard to find this jump guide on Google. The jump guide is over here t.co/aX2oR1o9FS

[@MinhNguyen-so6le]

could you give me a specific workout schedule to make a dunk ?- i find your progress extremely inspirational:))

[@ur8157]

I’m 14 and 5’11 and I can’t dunk. I hope I’ll grow a bit more

[@ohyeahyeah4951]

Λ U R Λ you prolly be 6’5 at least

[@anyo_mations]

Bro starting with a tennis ball first then working your way up to a full-sized ball might help. It helped me

[@Hobe23]

Thanks for the input. I definitely will once I get back to a basketball court.

[@licht9262]

Being able to touch the rim being 5'9 is already impressive

[@Hobe23]

Thanks!

[@Kevin_D_Y]

So what about now? Any arm swing improvement? Vert jump improvement? Keep the grind!

[@jhoncanivel421]

Great job!! Name of the song pls?🤗

[@Hobe23]

Daily by Rival

[@datsun240zee]

What's your standing reach? Great job

[@Hobe23]

It's around 7'4 -7'5 without shoes. Thanks!

[@r.amyhhh]

im 5'1 and can touch the hoop aiming to grab I by end of this year

[@Hobe23]

You got this!

[@alexandernegron3128]

Dr. Dweller damn jit you flyin

[@camboi4591]

People will try to keep you down but don’t let the discourage you keep jumping!

[@milada5251]

I got to be honest with you.....you're short af, but I guess you might have touched the kiddie hoops 😂

[@zerominotaurxx9408]

I am 5’11 14 and I could touch the rim but not dunk. I am supposed to be 6’4 so I am practicing to make the NBA.

[@Rone783]

I’m 5’9 and kinda almost dunked yesterday and I down even work out this gave me more motivation fr

[@Genball24]

omg ~ you are great !!

[@Hobe23]

thank you!

[@MA-wy7cr]

Great progress!Next, work on soccer kicks with no soccer ball, swinging a bat really fast, and sitting in a race car with the engine off.

[@curtis0824]

What does this mean?

[@juanwilson5379]

This has to be one the largest gathering of average hight dudes 🤟🏽 salute medium kings

[@Acesun13]

Much props to you.. there's a technique with the ball so you don't have to throw it in.. Science and technique brother..👍🏿

[@Karan-tn9lt]

im literally the same as you started. I'm 5'9 and can touch the rim with one foot but my two foot is terrible. the thing is that for one foot i jump of off my left and for two foot i do right left just like you but my left foot is stronger so shouldn't i do a left right. im confused so can you help

[@Hobe23]

Usually the first foot you step on in the block jump is the stronger one, while the other should be more reactive. It might be that your left is reactive, which is why you jump with your left for one-foot jumping. Regardless of what technique you jump with, you should fix the imbalance of strength for your legs.

[@Karan-tn9lt]

@@Hobe23 ya that's right I should make my right strong. Thanx for the tip🙏

[@aidanpoteet2315]

i’m 13 and 5,8 and i just got all my fingers over the rim

[@N-Ice_]

Me after 3 months of a lot of training almost not skipping a day training my vertical and being 6 foot - not able to touch backboard. And I'm not weak, not fat not slow I'm one of the fastest and the guy with maybe the best explosive first steps and stronger than most of guys around my height. Still one of the worst jumping ability in whole school even some fat guys with terrible jumping technique are better

[@kedrikc_l_gu__s3494]

Why did you switch from one foot jump to a two foot jump? I jump a couple inches higher off one foot and my two foot is really bad and it seemed the same way with you in the beggining but then you switched your jump. Is there a reason for that, like it’s easier to dunk of 2?

[@Hobe23]

Hey! Good observation. I switched from a one footed jump to a two footed jump because after I started weight training, I found that the squat was an easy corollary to the two footed jump. My mechanics eventually got better and saw more progress, so I moved to a two footed jump.

[@SimranWasu]

At first I was like “is that ICON?” And then the PAC court confirmed it! UW gang! Keep at it.

[@Hobe23]

Haha, first guy to comment about UW. Thanks bro!

[@tomsquid9140]

2:12 FOOOOCK XD love that enthusiasm

[@Kordan03]

Lol first clip is the north york ymca right?

[@Hobe23]

yessir.

[@tommymcpheemusic7745]

I'm 5'7" and can dunk 9'9", but I'm not sure if I could two hand grab it. Maybe under perfect conditions, but then again under "perfect conditions" I'd probably be dunking more like 9'10". If you have really good form a dunk should be easier than a true "two hand" grab, for most people (obviously one then the other is a different story)

[@Hobe23]

If you watch my other dunk attempt videos you can see I don't self lob when I try to dunk. This is mainly because I lack the coordination of self-lobs and haven't really practiced. So, I'm way more used to trying off the dribble dunks. I think if I were to learn how to successfully throw a self-lob I'd be able to dunk 10 foot, if not 9'11. Just by dunking off the dribble, I think I'm losing 1-2 inches of vertical. But, I agree with your assessment in that two hand grabs are usually more difficult than landing a dunk from a lob. After quarantine, I'll for sure learn how to throw self-lobs.

[@tommymcpheemusic7745]

@@Hobe23 I'm not really talking about self lobs... just a lot of low(er) rim practice and more focus on actual dunk attempts versus vertical touches will help with the form. Yes you lose height with dunking off the dribble but you really can mitigate nearly all of that if you learn to keep the ball balanced going up with one hand, and make sure your dribble is an additive part of your takeoff. Ultimately the last couple inches are most influenced with how good you are at efficiently getting the ball to the top of your hand to push it down, and if you have the timing precise you can work with next to no rim clearance, perhaps as little as 4-5 inches. You gotta be able to transition from holding it with both hands, to discerning which one hand you put it in with, to getting the ball twords the top of your fingers but not so far up that you end up throwing instead of dunking. Having good upper body and core strength helps a lot with that too, of course grip strength as well. Good luck!

[@Hobe23]

Sorry, I went off tangent haha. I was just saying what was on my mind. Thanks for your input, I agree that I should start practicing on low rims. But, with the current situation it's hard to find free basketball hoops. I still have much to improve on technique. Especially, getting faster in the penultimate step.

[@bluesuiterhairo]

How tall were you at 17? I’m 5’9 and about to turn 17. I’m wondering how much I’ll grow. Btw, I’m slightly a late bloomer. Fun fact: my doc predicted i’d be 5’11 when I was very young 8-11 y/o maybe.

[@ncm2738]

What did you do to improve your vert, I need a good 39.5 inch vert to touch the rim

[@Hobe23]

Check out my other videos! I have videos on the exercises I did to improve my vert.

[@alenaresteyev7867]

I’m 6,3 and can’t touch the rim, but by June I’ll dunk upd: maybe I can’t dunk cause of my weight 65kg

[@ibukungabriel2839]

So inspirational man lol

[@Lmll9638]

look at Alen so inspirational

[@grantcolman7087]

That’s a crime and your tall privileges should be taken away :(

[@matiastuominen1447]

do you think your too light?

[@saugabwoy]

Worthless

[@rayyanashif3787]

How tall were u when trying these dunks

[@Hobe23]

I was 5'9.

[@rayyanashif3787]

@@Hobe23 wow men ur cool I wish I could be like u

[@damien_bfg7033]

Where is the thumbnail’s court?

[@aamon3913]

Salamat sa video keep it up new friends here

[@vladq25]

hey , i just want to know if i am going to grow taller im almost 16 ( august ) and 6'4 (192 cm )

[@Hobe23]

Depends on your genetics! But, you're just turning 16, so I wouldn't be surprised if you grew taller.

[@itsdavis2318]

I was 1.94 when 16 now im 2.01 in 17 I think you will grow if u sleep enough and maintain a balanced diet.

[@vladq25]

@@itsdavis2318 im getting 9-10 hours of sleep but about my diet , i eat what is on my table , mostly meat

[@itsdavis2318]

@@vladq25 i think you are doing fine The rest is all about genetics

[@imjustchilling_9159]

Hey I’m just looking for advice because I’m training to dunk and have made progress but my only milestone has been touching a 9,6 backboard and that’s very rare I can do it. I’m 13 and need a 37 inch vert to dunk any advice?

[@Hobe23]

Check out my recent video on the top 3 workouts I do.

[@divineangel606]

I'm 6'1 but an inch away from touching the rim

[@curtis0824]

What’s your standing reach?

[@divineangel606]

@@curtis0824 7'10

[@curtis0824]

Big Sexy bruh mine is 7’0 it’s so hard for me

[@curtis0824]

I’m halfway up the net

[@unknown.1.2.3]

Количество подходов!))) Оно во всем

[@louis4033]

His dribbling is enormous

[@pepportite2707]

My advice for you is that you need to avoid stutter stepping as it limits your speed and keep in mind strength+quickness = explosiveness

[@Hobe23]

Hey, thanks for the advice! I agree with you completely, I think if I can master my technique, I can gain 2-3 inches.

[@BrickToTheHeadOfficial]

honestly dribbling helps me on the run up

[@Hobe23]

I can agree with you in some ways, but I feel like I'm losing valuable vert from the run-up (without the ball( and momentum from my arms. Plus the ball is extra weight you have to carry when you're trying to dunk. For me I got to the point where my dribbling jump is pretty good. Still need to improve tho.

[@jthprod.5838]

I could jump that high when I was 5'6

[@tanadonf2757]

Hi I'm 14 years old.175cm (5'9") I was able to touch the ring. do you think I can dunk in the future? I want to know how to jump high. from THAILAND😃

[@Hobe23]

Yup, you definitely can if you keep working at it! I have some videos on workouts that could help you improve your vertical.

[@tanadonf2757]

Hobe THANK YOU

[@willcee4966]

I don’t even know if I can jump one foot off the ground.

[@Hobe23]

I'm sure you can!

[@3x3records36]

im 6,1 15 yr can grab the rim off one foot what should i do?

[@Hobe23]

Check out my new video. It mentions the 3 lifts you should do to increase your vertical jump.

[@augustassimonis8345]

Probably die, idk

[@19Dimensions]

back when i started dunking about a year ago (i was about 6, 1) my main problem was form and consistency. I began to watch alot of videos in order to analyze my form to maximize my vert. I began to get very consistent and dunking became easier and easier. (i am now 6, 4)

[@augustassimonis8345]

@@19Dimensions nobody cares, dude

[@3x3records36]

Augustas Šimonis stfu you pussy

[@sotheamam1244]

I’m 5’7 and 53 year old . I can touch the rim..I know you can do it, at your age I was dunking not all the time

[@abz7116]

idk but i’m 5’11 and got my first dunk without even working out my legs

[@ephraimsonmulenga3939]

I'm 6'0 and 20 years still cant dunk buh am working on it i guess I'm just lazy

[@boosie4l133]

I’m just 6’1 and I’m 15 I hope I can grow taller and start dunking

[@yomidesu3145]

You can already dunk by that height bro just jump and jump and then wait one year and yea you can dunk.

[@Milanlundandersen]

Hi I have begun to jump higher! do you have some tips? i am squatting with weights and i am skipping with a skipping rope. Do you think thats good to increase my vertical jump? jump higher? Or do you have any exercises? It would make me really happy if you answered.

[@AnthonyForeRodgers]

Good job tho bro

[@Hobe23]

thanks!

[@LDAudio]

How tall were you as a hs freshman

[@nikaukottaiya9785]

I’m 5ft 8 and can nearly hang on 10ft rim I’ll be dunking very soon

[@hennessyxg1767]

Im 5”4 13 year old with 23 inch vertical. Can touch 10ft net

[@barstoolmil5652]

5’9 grab rim only off one foot. What’s your technique for 2 feet?

[@Hobe23]

I am a right-left 2 feet jumper and jump with my left for my 1 foot jumps

[@adonayeschini2742]

So dope

[@rwndae]

I have a question Since your 1 foot jump comes with your left shouldnt you go left-right on your two foot jump?

[@Hobe23]

I think it's the other way around. In a two-foot jump the more reactive leg is the block step (the last step you take). Whereas, the penultimate step has a longer ground contact. So, in my case where its right-left, my right foot has a longer ground contact than my left, which is more reactive. For my one-foot I would therefore jump with my left as its more of the reactive leg (The leg that can convert horizontal speed to vertical speed). But, this isn't always the case and different people might find different techniques more comfortable.

[@rwndae]

@@Hobe23 yeah I it depends For example Jordan Kilganon is a lefty and goes left right like I said Whatever feels comfortable I guess

[@tommurray5786]

Did you get faster too?

[@dannytq]

Hi. Any suggestions on how to improve technique for running 2 foot jump? I've got a good standing vertical. My running vertical is probably only an inch or two higher.

[@Hobe23]

Practicing technique and work on plyometrics. Either your'e not well trained to absorb the impact from the extra momentum or your technique is very inefficient. I used to be on the same boat and I could improve much on it too.

[@dannytq]

@@Hobe23 thanks. Any drills you recommend for improving technique?

[@dannytq]

@@Hobe23 www.thehoopsgeek.com/jump-higher-off-two-feet/

[@dannytq]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJrWfKqcbMuVn9U

[@Hobe23]

Hey, yah I do have some drills. I will be making a video on it!

[@Chris-oh4rl]

I'm just 5'6 and I touch the rim with my both fingers

[@nickangelucci8835]

Bro I gotta get like you for now I’m 5’9 5’10 with shoes and I can dunk on 9.5 rims and I’m just right at the rim at around ten feet.

[@Hobe23]

Haha, don't worry I can't even properly dunk right now.

[@N54_Jahzy]

I’m 5ft9 15 and I can’t even touch rim I can touch backboard but not rim

[@Hobe23]

This means you have a lot of room to improve. So if you start training, the rate at which you'll increase your vert will be faster.

[@N54_Jahzy]

Hobe thx I just need to work on technique and muscle. If a weight room is required I’m kinda screwd

[@lundoren5240]

Youngbull Ib2 you’ll get their i first touched rim when I 5’8” you’ll eventually get their. Just getting older helps cause I was 13 now I’m 15 and I can rim graze and i don’t consistently train at all

[@N54_Jahzy]

Mattias Ruiz I’m only 15 I guess I have weak legs but I really wanna dunk or atleast grab rim

[@Nomorechannel-t6e]

Youngbull Ib2 I’m 5’9 13 and can touch the backboard I might be able to dunk some day

[@jackhelzner3815]

where is that last gym 😅

[@Hobe23]

It's at a condo nearby where I live.

[@jackhelzner3815]

Hobé man 🤣

[@Hobe23]

@@jackhelzner3815 haha do you know where it is?

[@SWS-m7f]

I touched 10 foot rim when i was 5'11 but after that time i cant even touch the rim🤣🤣😂

[@smjkpark365]

1:44 Are you korean??

[@Hobe23]

Yep! I'm Korean-Canadian.

[@TungNguyen-vg6my]

How old were you when you did this?

[@Hobe23]

Started off around 17 or 18 and at the end I was 20.

[@CarlosVange]

I'm here cuz my predicted height was 5'9.5

[@warzonata6099]

Im 195 and i just got my furst dunk on a 9ft rim letssss gooo lads

[@paulcronyii]

Hey hobé, I am 5'8. How much vertical inches do I need to dunk a ball.

[@Hobe23]

It depends on your reach.

[@kidsballer9207]

I can do jump rope everyday to jump higher ?

[@JedizWRX]

Dedicated.get what you deserved 💪

[@Hobe23]

💪 💪

[@selmanfejzic5474]

I am 5'10 and 1 foot jumper and I can grab the rim

[@seofilipino]

Same height and still struggling to dunk a ball lol