5 Forgotten TV Shows Part 19 - College Themed Shows & Animal House Knockoffs

[@bensneb360]

Aly Michalka is such an underrated, charismatic, and funny actress

[@Madbandit77]

I liked her on "iZombie". She and co-star Rose McIver, who's currently on the US version of "Ghosts", are good friends.

[@Frankie2012channel]

You forgot ... also one of the most beautiful actresses in the business ;) She is a goddess.

[@paultapner2769]

@@Madbandit77 Glad you mentioned izombie, as I was watching the hellcats clips and thinking 'she looks vaguely familiar.' Thanks.

[@skinoff89]

@@Frankie2012channelyou can compliment women without bringing up their appearance or being weird you know

[@n.s.latwal9172]

The first show I watched her on was Phil of the future. Terrible show, but she was great.

[@timmer919hep]

This episode will also be forever known as "5 forgotten TV Shows - 8PM Time slot casualties".

[@Malum09]

Speaking about Fraternities, is very interesting how the perception towards Frat guys changed from mischievous scoundrels to basically Toxic A-Hole R^pists. Any talks of Remaking it would probably make them into the villains.

[@TheNameisPlissken1981]

Felicity is probably the most successful college show, actually lasting 4 seasons til graduation. Class of '96 coincided with my fresh year of college. I remember watching it in my dorm room, thinking why is the guy from Iron Eagle playing a Freshman. He's like 30 years old!!

[@Madbandit77]

Actually, A Different World is the most successful college TV show, having six seasons. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Different_World. It's expected for a college show to last four seasons since most college students get a four year degree.

[@TheNameisPlissken1981]

@@Madbandit77 yeah, good call. Having never been a fan, that one escaped me! Also, b/c of Class of '96, I was think hr long drama. Undeclared was another one and done college sitcom, however, that one was actually really, really funny!

[@TheNameisPlissken1981]

@@Madbandit77 another reason for four seasons is that use to be the minimum for syndication, especially if they could squeeze 25 episodes a season! Use to be, for a show that only lasted 1 to 3 seasons to hit syndication it would have to be sold as a "package" with another show.

[@dantheman8103]

I remember reading back when Class of 96 came out the showrunners already had a show planned for the lead after it ended in 96. They really over estimated how well that show would do. Although I seem to remember really enjoying it.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Lots of show runners just plan for the potential future. It gets the network interested when they see the show has potential longevity

[@myronaustin]

I love these remembrance pieces! I got stationed overseas and a lot of these shows I heard about in passing but didn't quite get to see so it's always nice to hear about them.

[@MrBingogogo]

They should do a college series following Millennials until they pay off their college debts

[@ChrisDeRoin]

It'll have more seasons than The Simpsons!

[@MrBingogogo]

@@ChrisDeRoin 100%

[@chancepaladin]

800,000,000 episodes later, and they're neither paid off nor forgiven, and their great great grand children's clone's androids are saddled with the debt

[@kri249]

If I want to see a bunch of blue haired feminists protesting comedians and destroying property in a toddler like tantrum I'll just switch on the news. That show has been running for many seasons now.

[@noneofyourbusiness4616]

"Executive producer" is sometimes an honorary title for someone connected to a property who doesn't necessarily actually have much involvement with a production. I don't know if this applies to Reitman and "Delta House," but it's a possibility.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

the majority are actually involved in the projects, it’s just a credit but it can also be that they’re in charge…Reitman had the credits and had Ramis et al working on the project so it’s a guarantee that he was the one in charge of the show

[@multitudeofidols]

Wes Craven is credited as an Executive Producer for the _Scream_ TV series, even though he had no involvement. Hell, they continued credited him even well after he died.

[@JOSH-lw2jv]

Yoshimitsu Banno, the writer and director of *"Gojira tai Hedora"* (1971) was one of the Executive Producers for *"GODZILLA 2014"* and despite him passing away in 2017, he still has an Executive Producer credit in its 2019 & 2021 sequels: *"GODZILLA: King of The Mon-sters"* (Not to be confused with the 1956 Americanized Cut of *"GOJIRA"* or the very first attempt of an American Godzilla film back in the 80s that was to be filmed in *3-D)* and *"GODZILLA VS KONG".*

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Yes and no, it really depends.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@GoodBadFlicks a lot are honorary, but for many they are fully involved and given the title as respect for their work especially as he was the brains behind the filming of the movie even if he didn’t filly write it

[@zac3278]

4:24 'The show floundered' - I see what you did there

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Every word I use is (usually) intentional :)

[@fromthehaven94]

I want to say that Class of 96 was the very first show to inaugurate Tuesday nights on Fox. Up to that point, Fox had regular scheduled programming for every other night of the week.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

@6:22 that's Valerie Bertanelli! Also I've never heard of any of these shows so good job on stumping me lol. You rock Cecil!!! 🤘

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks!

[@terryf6696]

I literally chocked up when you mentioned Hellcats.😥 I was so bummed when this show got cancelled. You didn't even mention Ashley Tisdale being in the show trying to bring over the fans of HSM and playing a much more grounded character and doing a great job. The Michalka sisters were also from the Disney stable in fact. But thanks for drawing attention to this gem.

[@AJ-xc4qe]

This was the first CW show I cared about before Arrow and the rest of the verse started. I'm not the biggest music follower but I try to make time to listen to Aly and AJ's music.

[@DanielOrme]

I regretted missing Class of 96 when I found out after it aired that it was created by John Romano. I was one of his students when he taught at Columbia University in the 1970's (one semester, The English Novel). I wonder if his memories of college life matched mine, seeing as we were in the same college at the same time.

[@NickMichalak]

CW Seed is where I got to watch the full season of Constantine, which vastly improved after its pretty awful pilot. I think Hellcats was produced by Tom Welling from Smallville. He was trying to branch out into other production roles.

[@Axolotl_Mischief]

Yeah the pilot was really awful. It was 90% exposition and horribly written.

[@tgs1766]

Missing from the list: Freshman Dorm (1992) on CBS staring Matthew Fox (LOST) and Casper Van Dien (Starship Troopers). It lasted only five episodes.

[@galbaum33]

I was a big fan of Class of 96 during high school. It was broadcast in Israel at night. I was very disappointed when it didn't return for a second season. At the time, I had no idea that it hadn't been renewed, and I was sad to see it go.

[@CliffyOdell]

Another great entry into this sweet series you've been doing. Gotta say, though, would love another 'The Master' ep soon!

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks!

[@anonimonn9775]

I've got no proof but i have no doubt that there was a rule in Hellcats that especified that when two or more actresses were on frame at least one had to be showing their midriff. I'm not complaining

[@GoodBadFlicks]

I think it was in their contracts.

[@KarlBunker]

My usual reaction to old TV comedies: "Who are those people who are laughing? And _why_ are they laughing?

[@Madbandit77]

Laugh tracks are not to be trusted.

[@KingBoxer119]

Great video as always. If memory serves, the song "crazy" by seal was also used as the opening track for the film Gladiator (1992) that features early starring roles for Cuba Gooding Jr and James Marshall of Twin Peaks fame. It's a pretty good flick and would love to see you cover it.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

That movie is awesome and Cecil needs to cover it.

[@SunGawdRa]

Thank you for mentioning this movie! I loved it, but it keeps being overshadowed by it's similarly named blockbuster than came out 8 years later.

[@hannibalburgers477]

Wtf

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks!

[@beaver6d9]

ooh Aly Michalka, loved her on iZombie! People always mentioned Hellcats when talking about her as Peyton on iZ. The last couple Forgotten TV Shows totally stumped my memory, but I'd heard of all but Class of 96. I know exactly verbatim how I would've described Class of 96 in, well, 96, and I'm glad we don't talk like that now.

[@ELEKTROSKANSEN]

It's amazing how many shows were made throughout TV history, you think you've seen all of them and then learn you haven't seen even 10% of stuff that was produced...

[@bigsarge2085]

Wow, your first list that I don't recall watching ANY of the shows from! Obscure!

[@staplegenius]

By 1993 most houses had at least two TVs, I can assure you.

[@Eulogy10]

I remember hearing about cw seed because back when they were starting the arrow verse they had a couple of animated shorts. I think one was vixen

[@abdoul5176]

Yeah, I remembered Vixen when Cecil brought up cw seed, and it's the only show apart from Izombie that I recall on it.

[@Eulogy10]

@@abdoul5176 they dominated dc adaptations in the early 2010's

[@chrismcdonald2947]

I remember watching Hellcats. Mostly for Ashley Tisdale and Aly Michalka. I dont remember anything about the series

[@JenMistress]

Hellcats should have had that be their advertisement, because I'm hearing "opposite of Glee" and thinking, dang, now I want to see it. 😉😂🤣

[@iDEATH]

The only one I remember out of this batch was Hellcats. I recall being a bit surprised by it, like I tuned in for the hotties on a lark, but there was more to it than I'd expected. I'm not sure how much of it I actually watched, though.

[@ChrisDeRoin]

"Hotties on a Lark" is my new band name.

[@iDEATH]

@@ChrisDeRoin Lol, I guess I did word that clumsily. Go for it!

[@kri249]

Don't you hate it when you check out a show just for perv but then unexpectedly get invested in the story. It's a real mood killer.

[@iDEATH]

@@kri249 Nah, 'cause smart is sexy. So, sexy + smart = super sexy. Or something like that.

[@archlich4489]

I had forgotten all about "Crazy" by Seal. What a great song!

[@dasdeke]

I remember Hellcats. The cover of Wild Horses by The Rolling Stones was quite good. Great review like always.

[@AubreyTheKing]

Wow! Michelle Pfeiffer started her career that far back!?! interesting to know! I love her! I would watch the show just for her!

[@TheRealNormanBates]

yeah.. I thought her first big break was *Grease 2*

[@c.alexandros4]

Great episode as always, but I kinda was expecting for you to include "Glory Daze," maybe next time.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

:)

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

Tom Welling produced Hellcats during his last season of Smallville. He tried to bring it back since it did well on CW Seed.

[@geniebysnsd_mp3]

Finally, someone’s talking about Hellcats! I loved that show 🥹

[@JoeDredd2012]

0:04 I've herd of it but never gotten around in seeing pilot episode yet I believe it's on youtube still? 3:06 Yep that she was great casting choice indeed 😍😍 7:35 He always be Doug Masters to me from ''Iron Eagle'' Another awesome installment Cecil keep'em coming👍👍

[@GoodBadFlicks]

:)

[@1kylecurry]

I'm giving up my age...I remember "Delta House" a little bit in 1978/79, too much spit, polish & squeaky clean. The 1978 top 10 movie list was...outside of a couple of movies was shaky. I don't recall the other shows. Agreed, Seal is very good!

[@WhiskeyBrewer]

Delta House also had a theme tune written by Jim Steinman, who later used the music for Dead Ringer For Love

[@BigGiantMonster]

Hellcats is the only one of these shows I remember and i only watched it for Aly Michalka, but I thought it was a pretty good show and it was getting much better towards the end of the season

[@wintermute-]

You have to love that message on the t-shirt on the thumbnail. Can you imagine a tv character with that on their shirt nowadays. I'd love to know the shenanigans that ended up with their character having to wear that. lol

[@justintoner9817]

I never heard of any of these shows except for Hellcats, I remember seeing a few episodes when it was on CW. Thanks as always Cecil!

[@GoodBadFlicks]

You are welcome!

[@stardog62]

I only learned about co-ed fever a few days ago when I was looking through the filmography of David Keith.

[@sespider]

Have you done a episode on the Land of the Lost TV reboot? It was dumb but was my jam in the 90s. And had a great theme song.

[@Riac007]

Thank you for upload. You videos saved my life

[@GoodBadFlicks]

:)

[@penbucket]

Body slam on Glee at the end there! Very funny

[@GoodBadFlicks]

:)

[@vtxgenie1]

Can you do an episode on the horrible Point Break remake? I would love to know the how and why that came to be! Thanks!

[@GoodBadFlicks]

I reviewed that a while back. It was terrible!

[@McPh1741]

Being born in '78, I have say, I don't recall any of these. But, I still find it interesting. It's insane the number of shows that went nowhere and people forget about. Watching these episodes makes my try to remember such shows. Great job as always.

[@Madbandit77]

I recall Class Of '96, and I'm a year older than you.

[@bluesman99999]

Another great video, Cecil! Honestly, Animal House was too edgy to make a Network-based prime time TV show out of. You have to hold way too much back to get past standards and practices, even at 10pm. It would've been interesting to see what a more "adult" platform like HBO could've done with the property, although HBO was still pretty young when Delta House came out.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks! I think it could have worked if they put it on at 10 PM but it was never going to be able to be even a little edgy a 8.

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

The timeslot allocation in which some of those shows were forced given their intended content and demographic makes me question whether those tv executives actually had any clue about what they were doing.

[@Madbandit77]

Most TV executives don't.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

When you realize a large majority of them have no idea what they are doing, it makes things all the more clear.

[@haydenmillholland4496]

Saved by the bell the college years is one I would love to be able to forget

[@bradwolf07]

I never watched Hellcats, but I remember when they had the trailer for that and I thought, "Aly is amazing". I never did try and watch it and given the hassle of trying to find it apparently, I'm not going to try. But I still think she's awesome

[@RaptorNX01]

"home taping is killing music" such an ironic shirt considering that home taping is why anyone can still enjoy these shows. lol

[@Plasmawarrior]

"The opposite of Glee? You mean actually good!" Fact

[@GoodBadFlicks]

100%

[@LacTheWatcher]

Hellcats has lived on in my brain having been a blossoming teenage boy when it aired

[@LifeProducersofNewJerseyLLC]

I love this video, so informational. You may want to add a college themed show that was successful, the Paper Chase. In fact it was so good that when the network cancelled it, it was picked up by cable tv due to an uproar of fans. Most will agree that they tv series was better than the movie with the same name. I only got to see some of the episodes because I too was in college and worked at night at the time, and when the series was cancelled and moved to cable, I did not have Showtime subscription. The professor was a popular charactor that would go on to do many commercials.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks!

[@TeatroGrotesco]

Yeah, Bellushi was busy.....uh, filming.

[@Turbo5150]

I loved class of 96. it came out when i was in high school and i was graduating in 96. everyone at my school watched it.

[@kri249]

Never heard or seen a single one of these shows but they do look fun. Absolutely loving this segment of GF/BF. It's always a treat when a new episode comes up.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks!

[@JohnnyBurnes]

2:16 My god, look at the variety! I miss that.

[@DigiRangerScott]

If I remember correctly, Tom Welling was an EP on Hellcats

[@scottpaul7427]

I never watched Class of '96 but I was in college at the time and thought the title was silly. No one that I knew called themselves part of the "class of" a particular year because nobody knew when or if they might graduate :)

[@carleeelizabeth]

i already love this series but seeing the thumbnail made me that much more excited. i LOVED hellcats and watched as it was airing. EDIT: i can't believe this is how i'm finding out it's no longer streaming even on the cw app :(

[@GoodBadFlicks]

:)

[@stephenbarone4053]

It’s nice to hear a sane opinion regarding Glee.

[@davidfausel9029]

I don't remember much about it but I remember liking Class of 96 when it aired. I'll have to check it out on youtube :-)

[@kimberlywiederhold627]

I remember Hellcats. I thought it was quite good. Have you covered Hawaiian Heat? It only ran for 10 episodes. It was supposed to be a Saturday night show but some genius put it on against Dallas.

[@scottmcfadyen293]

Something just came to mind when you mentioned 1941 .. I remember watching the documentary about 1941 on the disc of the film - that would make a very cool film as the actual movie was quite the mess [ the movie poster said it all ! ] I noticed that several of these shows were shown at 8pm .. a good way to get rid of shows by execs. who most likely didn't like them. Another fine list good sir !

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks!

[@otaking3582]

I remember Ben from Oddity Archive talking about Delta House in his Bad Movie-Based Sitcoms episode.

[@raditts]

i was surprised to see Class of '96 up there, I thought I was the only one who remembered that show even existed, granted I don't remember a thing about it. I would have expected to see Undeclared or even Saved By The Bell: The College Years before Hellcats, though.

[@beast13284]

The Facts of Life aired for nine seasons on NBC, not CBS, warren Littlefield of NBC gave the show a 2nd shot, retooling after season one, because NBC didn't have much at the time

[@Madbandit77]

Because Diff'rent Strokes, the show The Facts Of Life spun off from, was their only hit sitcom at the time (Sanford & Son and Chico & The Man were previous hits). It was actually the late Brandon Tartikoff who turned the network around. Littlefield was his right hand.

[@AJ-xc4qe]

Hellcats was the first CW show I cared about before Arrow and the rest of the 'verse started. And I remember being heartbroken about its' cancellation. Plus while I'm not the biggest music follower, I try to make time to listen to Aly and AJ's music.

[@marioaustin9312]

Hope you talk about more forgotten CW or the WB shows

[@BryantCastaneda]

They just added Hellcats on Tubi!! Ima binge it

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks for the tip! I'm gonna watch the eps I missed

[@shredsquidabominog4928]

HELLCATS was put out on DVD, should have bought it when I had the chance, very hard to find now

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Wow, its completely gone everywhere then

[@DabionFreedom]

Interesting new five forgotten tv series video, Cecil. I definitely want to watch Brothers & Sisters, because I'm a fan of Chris Lemmon, due to Thunder in Paradise & HellCats. because it looks fun. :)

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks!

[@brucegrossman3531]

I watched class of 96 with my college roommate. No clue why.

[@Mikanojo]

All of that discussion about Hellcats and you did not even mention Ashley Tisdale? 🤨

[@sbenz17]

Dont forget Glory Daze from 2010. One episode had Gena Gershon

[@TheeGrumpy]

6:04 CBS produced The Facts of Life?? It aired on NBC.

[@baronvg]

A show I remember liking and then hating that it was cancelled was Undeclared on FOX. It had good young actors who are all still working and famous today. And I think it even had Will Ferrell lol

[@Hasmanian]

I was 9 when Delta House aired, so I vaguely remember thinking it's sanitized humor was hilarious. Imagine my shock at seeing Animal House on VHS not that many years later.

[@tenebrousoul9368]

Great job!

[@SalvadorAnguianoDG]

I was waiting for you to mention Undeclared…

[@theylied1776]

There was a fourth Animal House-inspired show. I found it while searching KZbin for (failed Pilots from the 1980s).

[@mikekz4489]

I only know of Hellcats. Class of ‘96 is not something I would’ve watched as a teenager. As for the others, I was either not yet born or a still a baby when they aired.

[@chancepaladin]

ashamed they didn't make it to 'class of 99' where they have to fight the terminators ;(

[@jb888888888]

Ironic that _Brothers & Sisters_ "floundered" when it was _Delta House_ which had Flounder.

[@TheRealNormanBates]

4:24 despite _not_ being the *Animal House* TV show, the show "floundered".

[@GregInHouston2]

I did like Wildcats. I loved Ashley Tisdale's performance but watched it for recurring actress Teryl Rothery. . I did watch Delta House but it was impossible to watch the other 2 of that year.

[@jackmackakaheavyguyhaiku545]

Hellcats is the only show I even kinda remember. Never saw it. The others I don't recall at all. Good video, though.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks!

[@greenkoopa]

Hello Cecil i hope you're doing well 🐢 We love your channel in the Mushroom Kingdom

[@GoodBadFlicks]

awww thanks!

[@mjjoe76]

11:54 “Home taping is killing music”. So much to unpack with a silly shirt slogan.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

You wouldn't download a car?!

[@weatherreport9227]

I remember hellcats, I always wondered what happened.....

[@BarelyEinstein]

We're never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy.

[@JiveCinema]

Every one of these shows I remember a commercial for or catching the end of on a rerun somewhere. All footnotes in tv history. 😂 (Great vid!)

[@GoodBadFlicks]

Thanks!

[@furwerksstudio3714]

I was wondering if you would do an exploring on videodrome one day?

[@GoodBadFlicks]

yes

[@furwerksstudio3714]

@@GoodBadFlicks Awesome! I am looking forward to it when it's done.

[@I-Ren-Zero]

I recall Class of '96 fondly, I was in college at the time and did graduate in 1996.... the story line from the show that I still recall is the Kari Wuhrer posing for playboy story... which echoed a lot of what I heard about the experience of students at my University experiencing whey they posed/ tried out for Playboy... Class of '96 either followed or was followed by another show called Key West that I recall liking as well and only lasted a season... I am not sure that any of these shows would do great on physical media, but I always think Class of '96, Boston Common, TV 101 or Hull High would be a no brainer for Mill Creek or Echo Bridge to put out on DVD to be sold for $10-$15 at Target or Walmart... and if streamers are looking for content to get eyeballs back on their platforms shows like all of the ones high lighted in this video would be a way to get some viewers with the promise of "Matt LaBlanc before Friends" or "Early Michelle Phiffer" along with viewers who just want to see mid budget TV of an era and hear the slang, see the hair cuts and clothes.

[@cashomnitrix]

I’m surprised you forgot to mention that Tom Welling (Yes, *that* Tom Welling) was the co-executive producer on ‘Hellcats”

[@tripbreaker]

"Co Ed Fever" made me think of "Co Ed Training" from the late 90's ESPN2 morning soft core porn exercise show line up. Now THERE's your forgotten TV shows - Bodyshaping, CoEd Training & friggin' Fitness Beach. Then Sportscenter came on. Thanks Cecil, that totally popped a memory cap.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

:)

[@trekadam30]

I still can't believe Glee was a thing. Then again, I can't believe Cop Rocks was a thing either.

[@GoodBadFlicks]

To be fair, Cop Rock wasn't so much a thing as an experiment. Cop Rock had 1 shortened season while Glee had 6 seasons and won a bunch of awards. I would have rather had it the other way around.

[@trekadam30]

@@GoodBadFlicks I can see that, especially when you consider that Cop Rock has way more "cult classic" potential than Glee. We' still may be talking about Cop Rock 20 years from now; I don't think the same will be said about Glee.

[@civilizedsatyr]

Woah! Was that Alexa Kenin in Co-Ed Fever?

[@Equint77]

Dean Wormer “zero point zero”