5 Hours of Hard Enduro? Stark Range Series - VARG

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Stark Future Official

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@daddudesdostuff
@daddudesdostuff 4 ай бұрын
I love my Varg, I do between 15 and 20 min motos on my rut track here in the hills of Southern California, I am getting 2.5 to 3 hrs of total run time from 100% to 20% battery. I am happy with this machine!
@Ti-mothy8248
@Ti-mothy8248 3 ай бұрын
How long to recharge off a generator
@NahakuSpencer
@NahakuSpencer 3 ай бұрын
Agreed brethren!!
@dr.x4050
@dr.x4050 29 күн бұрын
Can you get a CARB California Green sticker for a Varg in SoCal? Was it easy or difficult? I'm worried about something preventing me from getting a green sticker, such as things that may not exist: VIN, Tltle, Engine number, Vehicle emissions control label, MSO (Mfr. Statement of Origin), etc.
@Zt3v3
@Zt3v3 18 күн бұрын
@@dr.x4050 I've read horror stories of guys struggling to get an OHV sticker from California DMV with electric bikes. BUT they just released a dual sport version, that will have zero issues using all our OHV parks and National Forest land. That is the way to go.
@Chris.Lester
@Chris.Lester 17 күн бұрын
I love in socal care to share the trail I'm looking for some as well
@kirbyclone3293
@kirbyclone3293 2 ай бұрын
Love the trail dog!!!
@LeonBold
@LeonBold 3 ай бұрын
Tip for starkvarg: develop enduro suspension. For extreme enduro you need even more softer susp., develop a clutch, for extreme enduro you need a clutch, in downhill in uphill, you need a clutch. Because you have extra room in the bike make some room where you could put a few small tools clicked on the bike? We dont carry the tools in a backpack because its Weight and weight will get you tyred. Even Food like gel we make with rubberbanden on the steeringbar. Integrate garmin navigation on the screen for routes, Integrate communication set in the computer so you connect with helmet Bluetooth so you can talk with your buddies. And do some led front lights. 👍🏻
@RubyS.1
@RubyS.1 3 ай бұрын
I approve this message. Definitely needs a clutch. Needs everything you said clutch at top of list
@JH-jo9wt
@JH-jo9wt 3 ай бұрын
100% Me and my buddies want a StargVarg for hunting... Ride Control like in Polaris / Can Am where you can communicate with your buddies, plan routes, find each other, follow the leader etc with integrated blue tooth PTT comms And IR Red LED lights - make it look like Predator lol -or some customizable light bar where i can put Lazarlamps from the UK Cargo tray at the rear to store gear, maybe even another integrated battery!! Attachments to tow 400lbs hog on a mini trailer A gun rack or two Have the phone pre-installed with ATAK with a special group setup for Starg Varg hunting crews (bigger screen would nice) Mountain or Jungle Camo options
@daudfazeeh3692
@daudfazeeh3692 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think the current model is specifically made for enduro. They’re just making the video to show how good the range is .
@kevinbrock1323
@kevinbrock1323 Ай бұрын
​@@JH-jo9wtI know guys that use surrons to hunt.
@BloodHoundIso
@BloodHoundIso Ай бұрын
@@kevinbrock1323 i use a surron storm bee to hunt. I think people just struggle with accepting that everything doesnt need a clutch.
@JS-nf1sn
@JS-nf1sn 4 ай бұрын
I've had absolutely no problem with range trail riding my Varg in California and Montana. The most I've run the battery down was 34%, after several hours of riding. You'll be sacked before the bike is. When camping, I charge it with a small 120v generator, and it works perfectly. Love the bike. Basically no maintenance, top shelf suspension and brakes, and it's unbelievably powerful. Open the throttle and the front wheel comes up. It's the liter bike of dirt bikes. I challenge anyone that doesn't like it to ride it; it will blow your mind with how good it is.
@jonathanthorngate5214
@jonathanthorngate5214 4 ай бұрын
i tried one and it blew my mind... felt so horrible i immediately bought another 300 2 stroke.
@JS-nf1sn
@JS-nf1sn 3 ай бұрын
@@jonathanthorngate5214 Nice, a revenge purchase. I like it.
@pow_dirt_hound
@pow_dirt_hound 2 ай бұрын
Crazy to hear these stories. Buddy last weekend got 35 miles MAX, and was dead on the trail. The rest of us made a 60 mile loop thinking he would make it back to the truck. Had to break out the tow rope on the way back to the trucks for him. Nowhere near 5 hours of riding for him.
@shadowless9102
@shadowless9102 Ай бұрын
Hey do u think the 80hp version is worth it for riding enuro and maybe a lil bit of street? cus as far as i can see it, people dont really use the 80hp anyway, no?
@vgstb
@vgstb Ай бұрын
@@pow_dirt_hound That must have been one crazy fast trial, because even competition dirt bike riders get more out of the battery on closed fast dirt tracks here in Europe.
@joshhansen1749
@joshhansen1749 21 күн бұрын
Ngl I’m more impressed by the dog he’s definitely a pro
@Madnesswillensure
@Madnesswillensure 4 ай бұрын
I need this as my commuter, dirt bike and enduro in one thing. PLEASE get this thing plated.
@oscr_zen
@oscr_zen 3 ай бұрын
its not plated yet? surrons are and this is not?
@Zt3v3
@Zt3v3 18 күн бұрын
They just released the dual sport!
@DSHoss
@DSHoss 4 ай бұрын
Love my Varg. This is a really cool video but that dog is the REAL trooper though!!! :)
@joshhansen1749
@joshhansen1749 21 күн бұрын
For real that’s the real professional
@ToolManThibert
@ToolManThibert 3 ай бұрын
I use the Varg for Hard enduro myself, the knarlier the better, running tublis with gummys and run 3 to 5 hours regularly. The harder the terrain the better the bike performs. Absolutely love this bike !
@bob15479
@bob15479 3 ай бұрын
that's because technical terrain is less power
@easternyellowjacket276
@easternyellowjacket276 Ай бұрын
@@bob15479 Wow. What an observation. 🙄
@bob15479
@bob15479 Ай бұрын
@@easternyellowjacket276 I mistyped. Basically I’m saying this I terrain will require deceptively little power compared to a higher speed course.
@h20mxracer222
@h20mxracer222 17 күн бұрын
What an amazing dog!! Bike is incredible too. So glad to see the release of the street legal Enduro.
@AvenMorton
@AvenMorton 4 ай бұрын
I love my Varg in Australia, but that dog produced the best range !
@MarcSherwood
@MarcSherwood 3 ай бұрын
Sure, but if it is anything like my old dogs, their exhaust can be pretty bad for those around. Well, I used to blame it on the dog.
@nevTk-oe9ud
@nevTk-oe9ud 21 күн бұрын
@@MarcSherwood lol
@darthelmo1
@darthelmo1 4 ай бұрын
I've been doing a lot of single trail on mine. It seems like it used about 20% an hour. I keep mine at 40HP with 35% braking. I also ride a really deep MX sand track and the battery life is pretty bad. I would say less than a 3/4 hour. Everybody I know in Wisconsin that bought one of these rides trails. The AMA will not let us race MX, but you can ride the offload races. I think they are marketing this to the wrong crowd in the USA. The AMA (MX Sports) is going to black ball Stark until Honda and KTM have a bike or Stark starts sponsoring (bribing) them. Also. My wife is really short and stuck on a KLX140L. If you come out with an 85 sized bike, I'll buy that one too. For the love of all that is holy, do not make a 50cc bike. That market is saturated. There is nothing in the 85cc size range. I would happily spend $13,000 on an electric 85 for my wife.
@veke_k2170
@veke_k2170 4 ай бұрын
I think E-bikes need theyre own class since even if theyre limited to 60hp they have crazy torque
@tman21vdb
@tman21vdb 4 ай бұрын
This is great info, thanks for sharing. If you do a 4-5hr trail ride, what is the average moving time? (trying to gauge how hard the bike is working for that 20% per hour). Im trying to see if I can do a 2hr sprintduro that is roughly 30-35miles and I would also set it around 40-45hp.
@Erwin-P
@Erwin-P 3 ай бұрын
How about lower the suspension like a 100-120mm? It now has an insane (good) 320mm travel. 200mm of that is plenty for your wife.
@bikesbeersbeats
@bikesbeersbeats 3 ай бұрын
If you checkout Electric Motion bikes like the XR or Factor-E, the idea with programmable mapping is you get multiple bikes in one. So if you want it to behave like an 85cc or 150cc you simply program the map for that. This way as your wife progresses she can increase the available power and no need to sell/buy another bike. Pretty sure its the same with the Varg but then again the Varg is about $13k new and its a full size bike so its intimidating to any new rider.
@Erwin-P
@Erwin-P 3 ай бұрын
@@veke_k2170 In 60hp the Torque is actually lower than peak torque of the 450's. It's more predictable and better flowing. But both torque and horsepower is lower and still they are faster.
@tam410
@tam410 4 ай бұрын
Nice test, thanks guys. The Varg is great but the dog ist still on 96 %
@jobruckner700
@jobruckner700 4 ай бұрын
We need a street legal version finally ! ❤
@rynojammin9511
@rynojammin9511 2 ай бұрын
Was at Sonoma raceway last month and a guy there was riding his street legal varg. So I guess it's possible.
@yamkaw346
@yamkaw346 18 күн бұрын
Seems your wish has been granted
@jobruckner700
@jobruckner700 18 күн бұрын
@ the prayers would be answered 🙏🏻 .. and now I will pray for money 😂
@TrygveJohannSørensen
@TrygveJohannSørensen 3 ай бұрын
Bro i dig stark just more and more. Have never ridden one. So im still a little skeptic about race range or open roads range. But when I see the dogs, the vibe, the smoothness of the bikes. I really belive stark has and will continiue to push the tec. Best regards from a very impressed but little skeptic norwegian🎉 keep pushing on guys! Awesome results!
@Alberttx11
@Alberttx11 4 ай бұрын
Anton homologa la moto para utilizarla por las calles de barcelona (matriculada) Un saludo desde Bcn, Gracias!
@GuneTools
@GuneTools 4 ай бұрын
That looks fun. I had an Alta and it was great. I'll have to get a Varg for sure. My KTM e-xc has very low range being a 2017,
@AJ-kx8rj
@AJ-kx8rj 3 күн бұрын
Amazing bike!
@1276Tim
@1276Tim 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my stark here in Australia, keep the vids up, its bloody awesome the CEO is out testing with the pro's, absolutely awesome product 🤘🤘
@nevTk-oe9ud
@nevTk-oe9ud 21 күн бұрын
how much m8?
@cs9575
@cs9575 Ай бұрын
Did I miss something? I can't seem to find the mileage both bikes got?
@dasblume.3944
@dasblume.3944 4 ай бұрын
we need a street legal Varg
@Z0ttMonte
@Z0ttMonte 4 ай бұрын
Still waiting for the street legal version ☝🏼
@TheMonkeyGirls
@TheMonkeyGirls 4 ай бұрын
If you move to Mexico it is street-legal here!
@benfarmer1415
@benfarmer1415 2 ай бұрын
Plated in the UK
@Z0ttMonte
@Z0ttMonte 2 ай бұрын
@@benfarmer1415 in Germany it’s not possible
@NTKLife
@NTKLife 4 ай бұрын
Best bike 🔥
@emanuelsilvapt
@emanuelsilvapt 4 ай бұрын
Was this test enough to release something to tune the throttle curve in near future ? 😅 love my Varg 👍
@MarkusOsmers
@MarkusOsmers 4 ай бұрын
I would love to have the buttons, like a quick shift, so you could have different throtle curvemaps. You could emulate gears, like splitting the full throttle curve over three gears and max throttle in each is limited to a max RPM for example have it in 1 to get about 0-33%, 2 for 33%-66%, 3 66%-100%. Beeing able to customize of course would be a big plus. I think having all RPMs in only one throttle is too sensitive in some conditions.
@er_ave90
@er_ave90 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video I am definitely getting a varg as soon I can this video made me want one even more
@starkfutureofficial
@starkfutureofficial 3 ай бұрын
Awesome to hear that!
@BrianBrandon-l6x
@BrianBrandon-l6x 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video guy's!!!
@benjaminfrankliniii9857
@benjaminfrankliniii9857 4 ай бұрын
If only you could put a light and turn signals and get it road registered. Then it truly would be a dream
@trialrider_official5663
@trialrider_official5663 3 ай бұрын
Would be great and it has the chance to really be road legal (real horsepower in registation etc., not like a 300 2 stroke, because it has no co emission; EU rules). Could be the perfect bike, even for Supermoto etc.
@dononebullen
@dononebullen 2 ай бұрын
You can seperate battrey pack tho
@mcdonnellmyles
@mcdonnellmyles 4 ай бұрын
I use mine mostly for MX, but I do occasionally do some Enduro on similar terrain in similar conditions as shown here (just north of Barcelona). I set it at 45BHP with regen at 65% and I get around 2 hours. I am definitely an amateur-level rider. I'm not suggesting you are lying, but I have no idea how you just got 5.5 hours? When I ride there are open sections where I blast it which I'm sure will drain the battery faster than a more "trials" style of riding...but 3.5 hours difference?
@PBmxer
@PBmxer 3 ай бұрын
great stuff! thank you.
@troybradshaw7280
@troybradshaw7280 2 ай бұрын
sooo.. you guys gonna come out with a lighter model soon? Or one with more range? Or one for endura with built in tail and head lights? Or is it one model and we are calling it?
@fredweeder3763
@fredweeder3763 3 ай бұрын
I love varg ❤
@b2ridez279
@b2ridez279 4 ай бұрын
Great vid, but this is a time test, not a range test. Please be transparent and post the mileage for 1 lap (I didn’t see it in the video). Most trail people plan rides based on miles/km- not anticipated time. I understand the point you’re making- for amateurs the ride lasts longer. Other tests I’ve seen only post a trail range of about 35 miles, that’s not satisfactory- my 300 will do 70+. Match that and you’ll see more purchases, including me.
@MarkusOsmers
@MarkusOsmers 4 ай бұрын
You are not wrong, would be interesting, but also only the range wouldn't tell you that much. The track conditions, uphill / downhill etc. You wouldn't be able to compare it directly. If your track was mostly downhill with some steep climbs, the varg would regen a lot. The other way arround your range would look way different.
@cr-fc5rb
@cr-fc5rb 4 ай бұрын
the type of range test you are talking about is very subjective too. depending on the type of acceleration and what the held speed is. generally speaking 35-45 miles is the norm when on open trails. on hard enduro I get around 5 hrs run time but that only equates to 25 miles. it's short bursts of power through technical sections. on a deep loamy motorcross track I can murder the battery in 40 odd mins. Hard pack motocross track 1hr 10
@b2ridez279
@b2ridez279 4 ай бұрын
You both make valid points, but mileage gives an approximation to plan off of, time does not- that’s the main thing I’m getting at. 35-45 miles is still pretty unsat. Gas is still more consistent and predictable (probably always will be), but hope the tech catches up to being close. I imagine these things are sweet.
@jimhurkman8657
@jimhurkman8657 4 ай бұрын
You are correct 35 miles is about the range 70 even 60 would be perfect. I will say that 35 miles I ride my Varg is amazing and for me worth it. But I also have 2 other dirt bikes.
@b2ridez279
@b2ridez279 4 ай бұрын
@@jimhurkman8657 at what HP level?
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Ай бұрын
I enjoy Kian’s riding style. The level of cussing is very similar to my own. 😂👍
@Skoovby
@Skoovby 4 ай бұрын
so sick! love this bike
@tns397
@tns397 4 ай бұрын
where can i buy that dog
@joshhansen1749
@joshhansen1749 21 күн бұрын
Probably on the top of Mount Everest on his 5th run of the day
@e75short14
@e75short14 4 ай бұрын
Can you imagine stark making surron size bikes? It will outclass any ebike out in the market at the moment.
@felixb.59
@felixb.59 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I would also consider a Stark if they made lighter bikes. Ofc lighter might mean less range but something like a surron ultra bee from Stark would be sick
@ronnygast4819
@ronnygast4819 4 ай бұрын
Somebody knows, how much horsepower there where riding?
@abrdun
@abrdun 4 ай бұрын
If I may ask, 7 laps - how many km was that? My out of the blue estimation with average speed 15km/h and riding time 3h so around 45-50km?
@michaelreid9172
@michaelreid9172 4 ай бұрын
I can get about 60 to 70km of mixed desert riding 30kmh average. But I weigh 120KG with gear.
@easternyellowjacket276
@easternyellowjacket276 Ай бұрын
I respect that dog.
@HeliTom84
@HeliTom84 3 ай бұрын
Stark would’ve made check mate if it was designed as a duo battery which you can choose to take one out - to keep it light and a bit more nimble when you want too.
@Talariaboyjme
@Talariaboyjme 4 ай бұрын
My dream bike amazing video guys ❤
@TheDustinlangston
@TheDustinlangston 2 ай бұрын
Why did you choose that power setting and regen? Is this a sweet spot for range? I’m struggling to finish a 1:40m hare scramble. What power and regen do you recommend?
@LammensB
@LammensB 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Is this a precursor for a road legal enduro version? 😊🎉
@santycony.
@santycony. 4 ай бұрын
Can this bike be street legal?
@Oneshotloser
@Oneshotloser 4 ай бұрын
There is a web site if you look at the surronster videos for varg he talks about getting it Street legal
@santycony.
@santycony. 4 ай бұрын
@@Oneshotloser thanks man
@SouthCentral-re9bn
@SouthCentral-re9bn 4 ай бұрын
It's a great bike, but having 3 people on the payroll "test" the range and lie to your customers this way just sucks. We know they barely make 1.5hr hare scrambles, sure 6hrs is possible if you take 3 hours of brakes, but then just say 10hrs with a dinner break in between. Your initial 6hr 110kg promise mislead us, things often don't work out, but don't try to throw sand in our eyes now that we can ride and see the range is clearly overstated by 2-3 times.
@Erwin-P
@Erwin-P 3 ай бұрын
Speed is everything. I can empty mine in 35 minutes deep sand MX. In hard enduro i could do 4 hrs and just drain it to 40%. They're on the paylist but the full video is also here. I don't feel they lied in this video.
@SouthCentral-re9bn
@SouthCentral-re9bn 3 ай бұрын
@@Erwin-P that is true but theyee taking the absolute perfect case scenario with hard terrain and a lot of sitting still, it’s hardly representative
@Erwin-P
@Erwin-P 3 ай бұрын
@@SouthCentral-re9bn then just look at the pro if that's your level. Ca 3 hrs of on a few seconds breaks continues riding. Thats a lot in the hands of a pro. Hard enduro for me has a lott of standing still because well, my own battery isn't as big as the Starks or the fuel tank in my Beta. They announced they would do diverrent terrain tests, with this of the first of a series. As long as they follow up on that promise i don't see anything wrong with this.
@SouthCentral-re9bn
@SouthCentral-re9bn 3 ай бұрын
@@Erwin-P he had a battery swap in the middle. Stark PR has been mostly BS so far (member that 110kg claim too?), hopefully they change there ways, but not super hopeful. Fingers crossed as I really like e-bikes and stark is the best right now
@Erwin-P
@Erwin-P 3 ай бұрын
@@SouthCentral-re9bn In this video's 3hr test was no battery swap... That 110 kg turned out 118. Feels about 10kg lighter as my Beta 2 stroke, so i'm happy with that.
@ВладеРајевић
@ВладеРајевић 3 ай бұрын
My Varg go aprox 1 hour at motocross track.
@pmullen5319
@pmullen5319 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Did they say how long (distance) each lap was? I have no doubts from comments on the forums that a Varg will last long enough for one of my group's "normal" days, but I'm curious how many miles they did here.
@Bioskid
@Bioskid 4 ай бұрын
is that a new bike version with a bigger bettery or what is the diffrence between the two bikes
@TheHG100
@TheHG100 4 ай бұрын
awesome video!😃
@verycurious-tv
@verycurious-tv 3 ай бұрын
I've had my eye on a varg for so long. Wish I could afford, but for now it's just a fantasy. One day...
@RostasRares-yx5hw
@RostasRares-yx5hw 4 ай бұрын
Could you do a test to see how many km you can do with this bike at an average speed of 50 km/h
@starkfutureofficial
@starkfutureofficial 3 ай бұрын
We haven't planned to do that is it's not a bike that you normally would ride that way. But I believe there's a VLOG out there doing exactly that test.
@paxtonsnjones27
@paxtonsnjones27 4 ай бұрын
You boys can ride!!! Thanks for sharing the gnarly diggers. That's a sign of trust and honor in my book.
@starkfutureofficial
@starkfutureofficial 3 ай бұрын
While almost all of the staff in the office has a past in on two wheels and know how to ride really well, the last 2-3 years hasn't allowed much of riding to keep up with the conditioning. Kian was pretty sore to say the least after this one! haha!
@EnduroTainment
@EnduroTainment 3 ай бұрын
Wet clutch like an EM, or some sort of E-clutch that is WELL programmed to mimic a clutch. Also, street legal available kit. Then I will buy one. It’s still far too moto oriented. And maybe the swingarm pivot joint attached to frame and not engine case. That’s a definite failure area. Awesome bikes nonetheless, though!
@walkerjian
@walkerjian 2 ай бұрын
I think the pupper would podium iron giant, no worries :) would love to see: softer, lower suspension for those mortals who are not long limbed viking gods plated for road a facility to drop in a battery quickly, that way the fun can still keep funning as long as there were replacement batteries, they could be as side panels/tank panels or a motor/battery redesign to facilitate this - the varg pack :)
@ninikronstadtninikronstadt3405
@ninikronstadtninikronstadt3405 Ай бұрын
Hi Where is this bike made ... ?! Do you have a website to buy a Stark Varg ?! Thank you very much
@matschimatsch3931
@matschimatsch3931 12 күн бұрын
I just bought the ex, can I come riding with you guys in Barcelona?
@torridt
@torridt 4 ай бұрын
What were the HP and Regen settings for the ride?
@Factoryphoto
@Factoryphoto 3 ай бұрын
I am picking up a stark in a week, I am a little worried about the paper thin cheap tubes , have any of you had issues with them? Did you swap them out? Did you go with heavy duty or normal tubes? Ive ran mousse tubes but I feel they would be a little draggy on this bike, might have to go tubliss.
@JLongoPoker
@JLongoPoker 3 ай бұрын
I swapped out for heavy duty tubes. The stock tubes are interesting to say the least
@Youtuber-nx2ys
@Youtuber-nx2ys 17 күн бұрын
It’s great to see that they have tested the Stark Varg with amateur women but it would be great to see them run the Stark Varg with men as well so we can see an accurate depiction of what it may be like for us guys out there. 👍🏼 Just a thought. 💭 Not trying to be sexist at all just curious how this bike performs with men riding. 🤔 Who’s on board?
@SovietUnionOfficial
@SovietUnionOfficial 4 ай бұрын
What power mode is the grey one? in
@144AMP
@144AMP 3 ай бұрын
How about the total mileage of that race?
@julienguidehautemontagne6969
@julienguidehautemontagne6969 3 ай бұрын
Hi guys ! I would like to know if there is a real regen of the battery if you do a long down hill with the regen set up at 100% ? I am in the Alps and trails have big elevation… Thank you !
@starkfutureofficial
@starkfutureofficial 3 ай бұрын
Yes, the regen back to the battery works as in a normal EV.
@yosefbegic8851
@yosefbegic8851 3 ай бұрын
Does it have a clutch?
@zuggett
@zuggett 3 ай бұрын
No bud
@timber-rider
@timber-rider Ай бұрын
I have to be honest. The dog was the most impressive out there doing laps!
@BMW12899
@BMW12899 3 ай бұрын
Form South Africa, i have a Stark use for mx Moto's I'm a vet, does not last. 25 mins then less than 50 percent, have to charge to get back out again. I use the almost the same amount of fuel in my generator as i would in a 4 stroke bike. Love the bike but not happy with the battery.
@jonathanthorngate5214
@jonathanthorngate5214 4 ай бұрын
Think the couple of guys I know with them better send them back then, theirs can barely scrape 2 hrs turned down to 30hp riding with pit bikes. It’s odd how 3 employees can ride one for the exact amount of time (6hrs) they claimed in the hype documents.
@mxriderdakar
@mxriderdakar 4 ай бұрын
Totaly agreed, lost a third place finish race because the bike was in lip mode after 30 km at 30hp. Worked for an 1.15h and couldn’t complete the 1h30 race. The bike wasn’t able to take the rare hills.
@SouthCentral-re9bn
@SouthCentral-re9bn 4 ай бұрын
These dudes are always full of shit, it's spitting in the face of customers with this "oh you can do 6hrs, just take 4hrs of brakes to fix your makeup for the film crew". It's a great bike to ride, I just wish the bosses would stop this PR BS. Like people are buying these and know full well what the range is
@jonathanthorngate5214
@jonathanthorngate5214 4 ай бұрын
@@SouthCentral-re9bn the guys in the uk arenacross had 2 bikes each because the batteries couldn't do the 4 7 min races on 1 battery.
@SouthCentral-re9bn
@SouthCentral-re9bn 4 ай бұрын
@@jonathanthorngate5214 what do you mean, they clearly can do a full 45min outdoor haven’t you read the brochure? 🤣
@harm97
@harm97 22 күн бұрын
Seen people with their stark after 20min moto just having 7% battery life left...many complained that their batteries quickly aging and lost sooner power every ride
@bigsus5120
@bigsus5120 3 ай бұрын
now do motocross renge test please
@starkfutureofficial
@starkfutureofficial 3 ай бұрын
Both sand mx and hard pack mx coming up.
@gary6449
@gary6449 20 күн бұрын
A set of hand guards might be nice ..
@erlendveras4703
@erlendveras4703 4 ай бұрын
I dont get how the pro gets this much out of the battery. I ride motocross, 45hp, 65 regen, and I get 35-45min on mine before limp mode. I'm a B rider, a bit on the slow side.
@SamuelGunnestad
@SamuelGunnestad 4 ай бұрын
It's in the rocky HARD enduro track. Makes all the difference. Your figures look correct. Hard pack could last a bit longer
@jonathanthorngate5214
@jonathanthorngate5214 4 ай бұрын
its called lying, dont you find it strange how 3 stark employees get the exact riding time they claimed in the marketing blurb? yet guys i know that have them struggle to get 2 hrs even with them dialled right down to 25-30 hp. its also not difficult to make a "ride" last 6 hours if you hamming it up for the camera and brushing your hair for hours.
@SamuelGunnestad
@SamuelGunnestad 4 ай бұрын
@@jonathanthorngate5214 Watch the video of Eddie Karlsson in Battle of Vikings competition and tell me he is "lying"
@jonathanthorngate5214
@jonathanthorngate5214 4 ай бұрын
@@SamuelGunnestad the race where he was allowed to swap bikes /batteries whilst racing against amateurs? That race is maybe 3 hrs long he should have been able to do it twice rather than need to swap.
@SamuelGunnestad
@SamuelGunnestad 4 ай бұрын
@@jonathanthorngate5214 In the first race he did 2 hours 20 minutes with 30% battery left. Second place was Magnus Thor, not an amateur. The other race was faster and longer, so he would have to change battery. I've never claimed that he could ride 6 hours on one battery, I'm responding to the claim that they are lying about the range. In a hard enduro setting, it's not unlikely that amateurs get that kind of range. I have a Varg and get under 2 hours on the kind of enduro I ride a lot of. I also wish the battery was bigger so I could race enduro with it
@RickyHardman313
@RickyHardman313 3 ай бұрын
Deep sand motocross test with an expert rider please
@Zt3v3
@Zt3v3 18 күн бұрын
I get a good workout and a hard day of single track with 1.5 gallons of gasoline....I'm thinking the Varg battery will be WAY more than enough for a guy like me.
@GetVarged
@GetVarged 4 ай бұрын
Range is totally down to the rolling resistance. On the hard ground it lasts alot longer especially going slow on terrain that allows you to go so slow. Lower amps needed at slow speed on hard ground. On soft sand, where you can't go slow and rolling resistance is high, I get less than 35 kms at average 35kmh. 1 hour riding. On harder ground with some soft whooped stuff about 1% per minute is used. 100 minutes riding time for a full battery and less than 60km range I've found I imagine on hard road surface with street tyres you would get +100kms?? Did they publish how many kilometres they did?
@SouthCentral-re9bn
@SouthCentral-re9bn 4 ай бұрын
Ofc they didn't, this is a PR stunt by employees to sell bikes, not a test. Sometimes you know the most from what is left unsaid.
@TheKitchenTechnician
@TheKitchenTechnician 19 күн бұрын
Just can’t get around the RC car sound. Maybe a speaker that makes two stroke sounds as you ride.
@ThisTall
@ThisTall 20 күн бұрын
Can’t believe the dog kept up
@jw8556
@jw8556 3 ай бұрын
For an amateurs on a closed circuit it my suit but in countries like Australia you will need double that range
@joepphoto
@joepphoto 13 күн бұрын
Kians face !
@goofyinho
@goofyinho 4 ай бұрын
10/10
@notgamingwithmax
@notgamingwithmax 4 ай бұрын
Cool stuff, battery life all depends on the average speed. Under 15mph and it should last pretty long.
@autohog
@autohog 3 ай бұрын
If only it had a clutch like Electric Motion. None of my fellow enduro riders including myself could compete without a clutch. Throttle response time can not substitute spooling up the rpms and releasing them in a controlled manner. That’s why Electric Motion incorporates a clutch. They’re core is trials but the same needs extend to enduro of course. You’ve got the capital now. The bike needs a clutch.
@TelmoMonteiro
@TelmoMonteiro 3 ай бұрын
Guys, I do about 120km of light enduro. Can this bike take it on just one charge?
@stefan-ge
@stefan-ge 3 ай бұрын
no 50km is more likly
@TelmoMonteiro
@TelmoMonteiro 3 ай бұрын
@@stefan-ge I wanted to like this bike. By my estimates it needed to have at least 12kWh of storage to be competitive. Too expensive for to little energy
@AutisticOrgy11
@AutisticOrgy11 3 ай бұрын
@@TelmoMonteiro it's not really a price thing as it is a tech thing. the only reason electric isn't in a completely different galaxy than gas is because the battery. the motor technology is all there, but the battery is the least efficient part. the varg is literally pushing as much electricity as technologically possible at the moment into the smallest space they can
@TelmoMonteiro
@TelmoMonteiro 3 ай бұрын
@@AutisticOrgy11 I completely agree! What I wanted to emphasize was that in order to be a no brainer choice, battery technology needed to have twice the capacity. We're not there yet
@AutisticOrgy11
@AutisticOrgy11 3 ай бұрын
@@TelmoMonteiro yeah i know what you mean. gas is still definitely ideal for very long or remote rides, but i think once electric is there it’s just better in every way
@robertburn8705
@robertburn8705 4 ай бұрын
Love my bike so much power i would some pillion pegs to carry a passenger through
@cntrix2047
@cntrix2047 4 ай бұрын
Please already announce the street legal version!
@greyriddance64
@greyriddance64 3 ай бұрын
Best range: Stark Hund 😂
@schuddeee
@schuddeee 3 ай бұрын
Me traerian una argentina? Estaría dispuesto hacer un canal solo para la moto y así publicitarla
@mikeking7388
@mikeking7388 4 ай бұрын
Dogs at 89% lol
@kenalderden2825
@kenalderden2825 19 күн бұрын
It was never said what the setting were for the test.
@mickeygallo6586
@mickeygallo6586 3 ай бұрын
Put a set of typical enduro lights on it as well as somekind of noise to scare animals that could be switched on or off, and I'll run and buy one right there !
@scottc4433
@scottc4433 3 ай бұрын
Stark dual sport please
@bob15479
@bob15479 3 ай бұрын
I think a lot of commenters may not realize that this is essentially ideal conditions if the goal is to maximize hours ridden. While the terrain is rugged, this really is relatively low-horsepower riding.
@starkfutureofficial
@starkfutureofficial 3 ай бұрын
Over the next couple of weeks we will have tests that is less flattering for the VARG. It's all about transparency and to make sure that we test with riders and environments that can be relatable to our customers.
@jhonfelipgo6316
@jhonfelipgo6316 3 ай бұрын
please send me one to Colombia I ride hard enduro I trust you and I love the bike, conditions down here are different, help me get one!!
@GeneCarbonell-fi6xn
@GeneCarbonell-fi6xn 3 ай бұрын
Where is traction control? I hear a lot of spinning.
@Lyas4
@Lyas4 4 ай бұрын
Your gonna get cooked soon! The flux bike is coming and will be better than all other companies, surron, Stark varg, etc. Flux is the future.
@bcutler23693
@bcutler23693 4 ай бұрын
If they are amateurs, what am I??
@oscr_zen
@oscr_zen 3 ай бұрын
Love my Varg!!! but I dont have a varg, just wrote this cuz everyone writes it
@Sustrii
@Sustrii 17 күн бұрын
Since you guys are making the bike in Spain, cross the border and do some real life testing or even have a rental/ demo test on events like "Arcos TT" in the north of Portugal, is always on the 3 weekend of march and lets see how the bike does there, and make it represent the actual buyers, not the 75kg miniature guys
@SovietUnionOfficial
@SovietUnionOfficial 4 ай бұрын
You coudl buidl a surron with a higher power to weight ratio
@-joo3033
@-joo3033 4 ай бұрын
Wich still wont compare...
@jeffkeller774
@jeffkeller774 4 ай бұрын
…and cost as much (or more) than the Varg, but you’d have a removable/swappable battery and massive aftermarket options. Pros/Cons to both. Tho neither has a clutch :-(
@SovietUnionOfficial
@SovietUnionOfficial 4 ай бұрын
@@-joo3033 with a rider that has the same experience it might... ,45kw/60hp 49kg bikes power to weight is 1.22 but a vargs in 80hp mode is only 0.77, surron with a 60amp hour battery can get up to 100 miles while a varg can only get 45-50
@-joo3033
@-joo3033 4 ай бұрын
@@SovietUnionOfficial i mean "wont compare" as the chassis sucks compared to a varg to matter how much you spend on upgraded parts.
@trimagos
@trimagos 3 ай бұрын
it just need a clutch to be perfect
@cleanmachineautodetailing
@cleanmachineautodetailing 3 ай бұрын
Amazing machine. Plan to own one someday. I just can’t justify the price. I ride all mx for now. IMO there is no such thing as a 10k dirtbike. But hey if you guys keep shelling out for it they’ll keep charging you for it.
@terrynicewonger5434
@terrynicewonger5434 3 ай бұрын
Stark Donate Me one….. Show the world you want to do good! Worth a try right Guys! 🎉
@michaelenglund
@michaelenglund 4 ай бұрын
As experianced in riding on different types of trails an electric bike comsumes very little if the average speed is low. So, you should do like three test. From low average speed to high and then show the results. At least show average speed beteen amateur and pro in this video.
@MarkusOsmers
@MarkusOsmers 4 ай бұрын
have you seen the gypsy 500 race with the varg, i thought that was intersting.
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