5 Reasons To Use Cedar on Your Next Wood Fence Installation

[@pjoneal12]

REDWOOD... The king of trees

[@TailTaleOutdoors]

Pine will warp, but for the price and strength I think pine wins here. I'm getting ready to build a fence at my new home. My parents have a pine fence that is 20 years old. Countless hurricanes and no issues.

[@TailTaleOutdoors]

@@JoeEverest that's a good point.

[@ericcalabrese8716]

@@TailTaleOutdoors how does your fence look? I went with the treated pine installed almost a year ago but the warping is starting to piss me off lol.

[@chuckaim1077]

Would love to know a bit about the different steel post options available, pros and cons! Lookin to diy 600’ of fence in the near future and I definitely want to do everything I can to make it long lasting

[@agjr85]

Our fence was just finished up today. Cedar is scare right now in Houston, a lot of people doing projects and mill closures. Good thing a hurricane hasn't hit otherwise we'd be screwed. The pine fence it replaced was 15 years old and never had any treatment and on 2 rails. I plan on staining this fence in a couple weeks and hopefully it will last 15+ years.

[@albertcho4540]

I deal exclusively in cedar. However I talked with my lumber distributor and another big fencing guy, they told me they’d rather trust pine hemlock pressure treated wood for the posts. They say it lasts longer here in the PNW (Oregon). My distributor loves cedar and has been in it for decades but he says use treated for posts. Though after seeing your videos and seeing metal post prices, I might switch to that. I’ve got to figure out how to clad it with cedar to make it look good

[@justathought6464]

Cypress is best down south. Tends to last longer.

[@austinc.3629]

I was told I should wait about a year before staining for the cedar to get weatherized. Is that true?

[@Engineerboy100]

Great information delivered concisely. Cedar it is for me, gonna get started on the pressure treated post first then install cedar slats on my stringers. Thanks for the great tips, didn't know about the even drying attribute, good to know.

[@JoeEverest]

Very welcome, always happy to help. Let us know how it goes!

[@hootanm9090]

Questions: 1. Aluminum 2. Steel fence vs 3. Cedar fence which do you recommend? And better? To block sound which is better?

[@shanethompson4865]

Cedar is twice as expensive. Repair a lot of cedar fences where pine seems to last longer in the KC. I do agree pine does warp more often or worse.

[@DavidDouglasZach]

@@JoeEverest Hey Joe. Can you apply sealant on pressure treated pine to make it last longer?

[@DavidDouglasZach]

@@JoeEverest Thanks Joe

[@billw7894]

KC here too, did a cedar fence thus spring, wish I had sealed it immediately, has shrinkage gaps, thinking of doing a board over board to cover gaps? Any thoughts?

[@analoja08]

I can’t find cedar close where I live (Massachusetts ) I can only find #2 pressure treated how can I make it last longer or taking care of it thank you for your time in advance

[@kevindivine9623]

How is Cedar compared to Redwood dog ear fence woods, which are available at Home Depot and Lowes?

[@kcmac9236]

prison orange; interesting color choice. Awesome info!

[@stephenmiano2392]

I cannot get Cedar on the east coast. How about Douglas Fir which is much more available/affordable? Looking for advice

[@andrewmiller9207]

Yes, no Cedar on the east coast, I'm doing stained treated pine.

[@sarahsavesit]

Love your content and video quality! I'm preparing to DIY my first fence and your channel has been a huge help!

[@rabbitfester]

Hi Joe! I’m trying to do my research on western red cedar vs japenese cedar. I got vastly different quotes for the 2, and I’m curious why Japanese cedar is less expensive and the pros and cons of both in the cedar family.

[@JoeEverest]

‘Japanese Cedar’ isn’t actually Cedar, it’s from the Cypress family. Most fence folks I’ve talked to have had problems with the Japanese pickets buckling and warping.

[@Sibetst]

Yours is a very informative you tube subscription. I see guys poring cement in a water filled post hole and then stick in the post and it looks easy....What do you think?

[@JoeEverest]

That’s certainly one way to do it, I’d be concerned that the mix could be too heavy on water and lead to a longer cure time.

[@rightyouareken7587]

Building an outdoor shower, think about using cedar fence panels. Just worried about cupping since water will only contact one side

[@JoeEverest]

That’s a good thought, if you plan on using it often (several days each week) warping and twisting could become a problem. I’d go with thicker products.

[@tree3po]

i need 65 feet of fence plus a gate. been getting quotes for almost 4000.00 in NC and Cedar even more. COST is a thing unfortunately

[@tree3po]

​@@JoeEverest these were larger companies trying to get 3200.00 to 3500.00. I got a general contractor to come in and do it for 2300.00 wood posts and pine dog ear fencing. gate is 13 feet and fence ended up being 70 feet total. Wood prices jumped during this pandemic crap.

[@benjaminhernandez2725]

Which one are better between cedar or redwood boards?

[@stevengeorge4393]

Want to install a fence and paint it white. Would you use cedar still? Would you paint the boards prior to install?

[@assog5737]

What about a red wood fence compared to cedar? I love the look of a good sealed red wood fence.

[@allaboutroofing2]

Now I'm confused. Here we have redwood cedar...?

[@Winterfal11]

Well I hope you see this Joe, I installed a 7' tall cedar picket fence but I made a mistake and my top rail is about 16" from the top of the fence. Do you think the top 16" are going to start warping or bowing and make it look terrible? I could get the top rail about 4" higher if I take it apart but i'm wondering if that would even make a difference.

[@neilnov6899]

What if you mix match? Pine post but cedar pickets? I realize this might make some peoples head spin but, already started with pine post and pine pickets are unavailable in my area. Cedar is though.

[@smokeyross1391]

We have a guy close by in Ohio selling white oak for fencing. Google says its a great product for this use. Do you have any knowledge or thoughts on this?

[@danzig3764]

Might have a builder do a pergola with treated wood. He will stain it, water proof it with sealer. I know cedar last almost a lifetime but want your thoughts

[@danzig3764]

Joe Everest thank you

[@Yzabeaux1]

What's the next best wood as cedar is hard to come by.

[@georgeburns8447]

Cedar fence pickets are hard to come by here in the mid-atlantic region for do it yourselfers. All you ever see is treated pine. I wish Home Depot and Lowes would carry cedar.

[@JP-td8gt]

My neighbor replaced there fence with treated pine. But now i want cedar. Will that be weird? We live in common property lines.

[@luisarroyo4450]

What about treated redwood? I live on the west coast so it might be more avaliable.

[@agjr85]

Can you do a vid on using steel hardware , such as rail hangers, etc. Do they make a difference or just a waste of money.

[@thormatt2963]

Hi Joe...i love your videos. I have a question. I want to build a fence this spring. I have noticed that some fences have 2 horizontal braces between posts and some have 3. What do u advise?

[@thormatt2963]

@@JoeEverest Thanks for the reply.

[@jaysdood]

I wish cedar was more readily available than pine here in New Zealand. Also, dunno what species of cedar you get there, but our species is really soft and I'd be a bit nervous about using it on fences for fear of impact damage. Love your vids!

[@jaysdood]

@@JoeEverest Cheers Joe, love your work. Whenever I use cedar it tends to be reclaimed. I have a rather large (400kg or approx 880 pound) thicknesser that will happily plane an entire rail way sleeper or even bigger. Can get cedar for free occasionally which dresses up nicely with a bit of effort.

[@NewYorksFinest1]

can i use cedar boards to build my gate that has knots and knot holes in them?

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

Best part about ceder is the smell :P

[@JoeEverest]

Absolutely, nothing beats it!

[@mike101E]

Is cedar wood paintable??

[@ramoncolonx12]

should I wait a year before I stain my new fence?

[@teddennison344]

The intro for this video shows fences that look like cedar pickets on pressure-treated pine 2x4s. Am I seeing that correctly?

[@JoeEverest]

It’s imported cedar, Japanese/Cedar, which is quite a bit lighter than the Eastern Red Cedar we were using in the intro.

[@latafairam]

#6 Cedar is also cheaper, right?

[@Itsbrybryy]

Should there be a warranty over warping cedar fence?

[@JoeEverest]

Unfortunately, warping is a natural process for natural products. Most manufacturer warranties will exclude natural processes.

[@anatorres5040]

Do you know a good fence company in Orange County, California?

[@bryanjhandyworks]

What are the differences between the types of cedar? Should I exclusively use western red cedar or will any other cedar work just as well?

[@Tommy_boy007]

Ready Seal wants the wood below 15% moisture. I don’t think I can seal my fence yet. It’s wet.

[@Rick-tb4so]

I can't find s4s cider.

[@ociriszues]

What about redwood?

[@ociriszues]

@@JoeEverest oh. I just put up a 165' fence in redwood is why I ask. It's such a beautiful wood.

[@poppivo]

What about the price?

[@elchekaner]

What about Japanese cedar?

[@andrewmiller9207]

Jap Cedar boards look thin at 5/8.....I opted for 3/4 treated pine, and will oil stain.

[@graberfencecompanyjustgrab1358]

Cedar is the only way.. Western red.. Graber Fence Company. Oregon

[@williamwallace1745]

I wish there was a company that would use Black Locust wood for fencing and posts.. That wood untreated and stuck right in the ground will last 50+yrs easily. Amish people I know use it for fence posts and I've seen fences still standing they claim are over 150yrs old

[@bensommer344]

“Longivity” 😁

[@kriscamp608]

Bro I was thinking the same thing! I’m a teacher and that stuck out to me.

[@allaboutroofing2]

Cedar is way better but still gets gray or even black without stain.

[@allaboutroofing2]

@@JoeEverest just wanted to add that I build a 6 ft cedar fence 20 years ago and its literally as good as new. I used post master posts. My neighbor has replaced his fence already and fixed many posts over the years. Didn't listen when I told him to use cedar and postmaster, and I would bet good money that my current fence will outlast his new one. Cheers

[@allaboutroofing2]

One last question. If it's a thicker say 3/4" cedar picket and true measure cedar 2x4s why would you need to do any maintenance if the gray look is okay or preferred? The wood looks the same at 20 years as about 4 years and hasn't shown any color change since. No rot. I prefer the rustic gray look personally with a lush and trees yard looks so cozy and unfooled around with. Thanks.

[@jimsugaroo]

You failed to state what type of "cedar" you're talking about. I did fast forward some of the long winded talking so I may have missed the description but you might want to clarify this because cedar is a common name but can describe different types of wood.

[@Miguel195211]

Vinyl!

[@joshmiget6195]

Spellcheck longevity. Js.

[@isackhernandez3691]

@@JoeEverest loungevity

[@chriswise1232]

Is your business shut down or have you found someone to make pickets for you?

[@Greybeardmedic]

Defense expert?

[@poppivo]

And will you ever have to treat it?

[@jonskitch8082]

Redwood is better!

[@jonskitch8082]

@@JoeEverest Then change your title.

[@Mufasa535]

Add pics next time

[@JoeEverest]

Great point, I appreciate the feedback!

[@Buzz_Kill71]

Why do I get the feeling cedar is more $$$ than pine? 😐

[@JoeEverest]

Like most things, higher quality typically equates to higher initial cost.

[@Buzz_Kill71]

@@JoeEverest sounds like a simple truth that should be stated in the video... Perhaps?

[@jjthesauce1939]

This guy thinks he's slick!!! be honest tell everyone how much you get the fence supplies for and why you mark up the price so much. Straight Robbery should be illegal

[@jjthesauce1939]

Ok again lets say your doing cedar at your house how much do you get it for per foot? How much do you charge a customer for cedar per foot? It a straight dollar amount dont give me all that other stuff bud.

[@jjthesauce1939]

Wow!!! So you charge by average 🤣.. how much do you get cedar fence for compared to store pricing bud..put up or shut up...

[@dallasburns7806]

Jj the sauce Dude, why are you being a dick?

[@TheRevering]

Jj the sauce You are a total moron. Get lost.

[@famdeg3015]

God forbid a hard working business owner actually turns a profit!

[@ihatenuggets]

So I've been without a fence for almost 1.5 years now because of the lumber spike. Was planning on using redwood or cedar as an alternative. Is there an end in sight for this lumber spike? I ended up using a steel post system so I only need the slats to be wood. Also, is pressure treated really that bad?

[@JoeEverest]

Lumber has come down somewhat, but I’m not sure it’s going to come down much until demand pulls back. If demand stays strong the manufacturers really don’t have an incentive to bring pricing down, unfortunately.