5 Remnants of LOST Disney History

[@hidingfromsomeone]

100% agree with you that Walt built the park so he could have a bigger train. And I respect that.

[@MattMcIrvin]

At Tokyo Disney, the steam train only encircles "Westernland" and has a single stop. On the other hand, they do have the best monorail there, encircling the entire resort (one you actually have to buy tickets for, and go through a faregate like the ones all Japanese trains have, but it's worth it). And DisneySea has an "Electric Railway" elevated trolley with turn-of-the-20th-century styling that shuttles between two stops. So Disney's whole train thing gets plenty of representation. Come to think of it, one of the major owners of its parent company is a railway.

[@stephanieferguson723]

Yes. This is totally why he built it all. Agreed

[@derekllewellyn6663]

​@@MattMcIrvindo you know what Alice in wonderland day Disney company class of Legends of Disney channel on 90s TV's show episode season start in Same theme as

[@Corleone1891]

"Choose wisely" is a reference to the line from the knight at the end of Last Crusade who utters the line that became a popular response meme on the internet: "He chose poorly".

[@NEEDbacon]

Well, given it was making reference to AT&T, yeah that checks out.

[@geologyjoerocks]

That’s what I was gonna say…

[@ConnorCampbell-ch5mk]

How much you want to bet Dallin has to restrain himself from putting the peoplemover on here? 😂

[@landonb7233]

Oh no, he’s gonna have a whole different video for just that 😂 which I’m here for😂

[@JustcallmeDebbieB]

😂😂

[@inuvoxx]

To be fair, I think *everyone* knows the Peoplemover situation.

[@ConnorCampbell-ch5mk]

@@inuvoxx hasn’t stopped him yet

[@ejhproductions1]

All of it. All the restraint.

[@bradcutcliffe3615]

I always thought that "Choose wisely" was a nod to the last scene in The Last Crusade that they shoehorned into the ATT ad.

[@Pantheragem]

It's a reference to the Last Crusade, and the ride itself.

[@Slowplaymae]

It made me realize just how old I am that the “choose wisely” phrase didn’t immediately bring back the grail scene from the move and the soda commercials that followed. (Was it coke? I think it was coke, those cola wars were a clusterduck)

[@AverageJoe483]

@@Slowplaymaehaha yeah . I remember that as a kid. It was a commercial on the VHS for the movie . 😂

[@tokkiouo]

I'm 100% with you on Walt just wanting a train. The man didn't need to open a theme park, he needed to open a train station

[@lavendersorcery]

Dallin is single handedly carrying the disney parks fun fact economy on his back

[@thetntraider]

Actually the Disneyland Paris Railroad does have the Grand Canyon Diorama. It’s immediately after leaving Main Street Station. It does not have the Primeval World section, which funnily enough, Tokyo Disneyland’s Western Railroad does, but not the Grand Canyon Diorama.

[@bajgerrathter]

I just came to the comments to say exactly this! Thank you for beating me to it

[@michielmorssinkhof]

Exactly this!

[@kolonarulez5222]

That Natahzu ad was incredibly effective. I saw it once around 7 years ago, have never been to Animal Kingdom, but pops in my head like a Tripledent Gum commercial

[@averyeml]

Inside Out was so good at what they did that Tripledent Gum’s jingle pops into my head more often than any real ones I know now

[@KevinThurman]

“Dinosaur ride was super dark” is an understatement. It was so jokingly dark, I felt grifted by a carny ride.

[@Flopbear69]

I slept on it once and the staff had to wake me up loll

[@FriendlyPhilcoDealer]

Fun fact: on the island of Oahu in Hawaii, there is a railway preservation society that runs a scenic excursion train from Ewa Beach to Kahe Point along the western shore of the island - on the return leg, the train often stops in Ko Olina so the passengers can get ice cream: which means, by proxy, Disney's Aulani Resort has a train. Walt's obsession cannot be escaped.

[@amys270]

I remember going when Indiana Jones first opened and my dad made a video of every code in the whole line and we kept the cards and decoded every message when we got home. Back when all the crazy effects in the line worked like the spikes moving it was soo cool.

[@clearacell]

Also, there was swing dancing at Fantasy Faire every Saturday night up until the pandemic. They never brought it back due to covid restrictions but nowadays there's no excuse not to bring it back

[@JustcallmeDebbieB]

I loved watching and wished I knew how so I could dance too!!!

[@8opus244]

If I remember correctly the swing dancing was reduced leading up to the pandemic, usually just once per month instead of every week. I don’t remember when it switched but it is unfortunate because it was a great atmospheric addition. I always just like watching. Now, Disney seems unlikely to bring it back because they would rather let the ship go down than pay performers. Also, this space was used for local schools to come and perform. That doesn’t happen anymore I don’t think. Schools can still come but I think they have limited options to actually perform in the parks now.

[@EPShockley]

I remember attending the celebrity pre opening event for the Indiana Jones ride at D-Land. An old friend from when I worked in the entertainment department at Knott’s Berry Farm, was playing Indy. (Another friend played Indy there , for a live Indiana Jones show there, at about the same time.) Anyway… “Choose wisely” was what the Grail Knight, in, “Last Crusade”, told Indy, Elsa (No… Not the one from Frozen!), & Donovan, when they were trying to figure out which grail was the genuine artifact!

[@carolrosachoque]

I love this videos so much!! Im getting retired in a couple of years and I can't wait to visit the parks every year❤ Even by myself only, it's pure joy!! Thanks a lot for this channel ❤

[@sara_no-h]

I cannot believe how obscure but still interesting these facts are! Way to go!

[@MCastleberry1980]

I remember going to Disneyland NYE of 1997 with friends. It was packed so we had plenty of time to try and decode messages. They were basically AT&T ads lol Had a very "drink your Ovaltine" feeling when we realized it.

[@kolonarulez5222]

"Be sure to drink your AT&T"

[@MCastleberry1980]

@@kolonarulez5222 legit lol

[@cmaden78]

Omg😂I had forgotten that part of the movie ❤😂🤗✨

[@ghoultiful]

I am not really a Disney person, but I'm incredibly nosy, so I enjoy when you do these lore videos.

[@lunawenko9324]

16:06 Yes. Yes, it does. As you travel under Phantom Manor, you pass a Grand Canyon Diorama before exiting the Tunnel and getting a great view of Big Thunder Mountain

[@jamesl1130]

Fantasy Fair missed an ideal opportunity to add a dragon in a basement area. Where you could also meet some Prince characters

[@Peperta]

Omg I remember the swing dancing!!! It was so fun to go watch people all dressed up and they really knew what they were doing.

[@DisneylandOrBust]

Super fun fact that I just learned from a friend who works there - the CMs at where the queue enters the "temple" usually have the decoder cards still!!!! I totally thought they didn't exist anymore, but as of last week they do still have them sometimes if you ask nicely!

[@RPena98]

Doing this whenever I go next!! Hopefully I remember lol

[@SailorMoonFan92]

16:02 Uh.. The Disneyland Paris Railroad DOES in fact have a replica of Disneyland's grand canyon diorama. At first I thought you might be joking, but it doesn't really come across as such.

[@clintwilliams3818]

I'm liking anything that includes the 90s marketing clips, like the Animal Kingdom ad and Countdown to Extinction.

[@turcj]

Wouldn't it have been nice if when they built the tunnel under Tron, they had added the old dinosaurs from the Universe of Energy? I hope some of the dinosaurs in Dino Land USA find there way someplace else on property - especially Sue.

[@Zoopop13]

as a current lifelong Chicagoan, she lives peacefully in my fave museum, the Field Museum (MSI being my second). i see her quite frequently since my dino obsession hasnt stopped. i hope they dont destroy what theyve got at WDW, but she does have an option in her home in Chicago if they feel they dont want her parts anymore.

[@Nebet1573]

I would daresay the reason for no food/drink on the trains at Disney World is because those trains have a heck of a lot more people that ride them throughout the day. They probably allowed food at the beginning but people being people, they were leaving too much of a mess behind so they had to put a stop to it. :/

[@heatherstephenson1497]

I've never noticed.

[@jaybruminator]

Dont stop the train...just yell eureka!

[@Jezz1226]

Without the AT&T context the Indiana Jones "choose wisely" things feels like a reference to the Indiana Jones and Last Crusade --that may just show the fact that I've seen that movie too many times though

[@EPShockley]

Apologies for my somewhat similar comment. (Caffeine hasn’t kicked in, yet.)

[@gameboy8162]

Also, aren't the riders "choosing" one of 3 doors in the ride?

[@daydragoon331]

@@gameboy8162yup, I always figured it was this in reference to the 3 doors

[@Pantheragem]

​@daydragoon331 It's referring to both. In 1995 when the ride opened, and it had only been 6 years since the last movie had been in theaters.

[@EPShockley]

@@gameboy8162 Always thought the door chosen was supposed to be random/unknown, & not chosen by the group in the vehicle. (Perhaps, if they had three different lines, to make it seem as if they were actually choosing?)

[@ryanbates9136]

OMG CARNATION PLAZA GARDENS! When swing came back in style in the late-'90s, we were APs and we were there EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT to dance! It's literally the only style of dancing I can successfully do aside from the Macarena, and that's even less popular.

[@duplexidemic]

An interesting example of this to me is the "Alien Tower" at Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland. Back when they redid the park in the 90s the two premiere attractions at the entrance had weenies. Timekeeper had a big UFO that resembled the circular shape of the theater (which is now gone), and Alien Encounter had a giant teleportation receiver on top of the building with cables running down to an open manhole, like XS just hastily jury rigged their teleportation technologies together for the showcase. They removed the cables in the manhole when the attraction switched to Stitch's Great escape but the giant yellow tower remained. And even now that Stitch isn't there either the tower meant to draw your focus to the attraction is still there to this day. I actually own the blueprints to this tower and besides being exclusively referred to as the "alien tower" the imagineers also drew a little xenomorph for scale next to it instead of a person.

[@foxyfoxington2651]

Nahtazu is definitely right up there with Hospitaliano and DnL as "things I remember from commercials"

[@jocastadidntknew5980]

I always thought the “choose wisely” sign in Tomorrowland was an Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade reference, not a sponsorship 😭 You learn something new everyday.

[@nicholasangell3918]

at 2:57 that phrase is a reference to the movie Indiana jones and the last crusade it's from when Indiana finds the old knight who is guarding the chalice and how when he chooses the correct cup the old knight says, "You have chosen.......wisely."

[@SA12String]

I still have my Indiana Jones decoder card from the first day open. This was the first cue at Disneyland to be interactive and entertaining enough that you didn't really mind the long wait. Besides the decoding of the messages, there were all kinds of things that reacted if touched. I have no idea if all that stuff still works. P.S. The DLRR is the beating heart of Disneyland.

[@macmacbsu6144]

On our recent trip to wdw one of my first stops was to ride Dinosaur one last time. It was bittersweet, I was pleasantly surprised to see that they fixed/updated several of the effects

[@Zoopop13]

i actually have some of those ATT cards from the Indian Jones ride. the original, not the second wave of cards. theyre my disney artifact edit bc i had to add. Dinosaur was like my #1 movie as a child. 99 baby, i had a viewfinder with a picture card of the movie. i had the VHS that got so much use im surprised it didnt break. same with Mary Poppins, we had like every Disney VHS known to man due to my Nana and Papa. when my mom had my little brother, my parents got me a bunch of dino figures to make me feel like i was still wanted n to not get jealous (they thought id get upset i wasnt getting the attention a newborn needs at 2 yrs old). iv always loved my brother and protected him, always took great care of him, so they had nothing to worry about. i was a good big sister. but that movie was a huge part of my life as a child. my dino obsession hasnt stopped or lessened, even 23 years after i got those figures.

[@alexpatmore7315]

I’m glad someone else remembers those viewfinders! Loved that movie

[@pumpkensdiapers1417]

“Stand together!” Is literally the only line I remember from the Dinosaur movie lol

[@caseysmith4206]

The Disneyland Paris railroad does have a Grand Canyon diorama though?

[@sherrydonahue1952]

Yes, it does. kzbin.info/www/bejne/moipo6R9qZuoaJo

[@waltbackaert8578]

Yeah was thinking the same thing... Sarcasm?

[@George_vv]

I always thought the "choose wisely" was about the chamber of destiny in the ride. It says "You seek..." when you would enter the chambers with Mara which implies it was a choice the people who enter make.

[@clearacell]

"He chose...poorly" "He chose...wisely"

[@andrewkellogg8762]

The Disneyland Paris Railroad do go through The Grand Canyon Diorama.

[@catherinej4918]

Yeah this one made me come to the comments, lol.

[@AK-cv1fv]

There's a nod to a previous attraction at Mission Space in Epcot. When you're in line you see the spinning wheel with various rooms. That came from the Horizons ride which occupied the space where Mission Space is now.

[@TheBrowncoat2112]

I still have my original translator card that was handed out in the ride queue to read the writing in the walls. All of the stuff basically translates to then-current AT&T marketing taglines.

[@jamesmcdonald1687]

I will never forget in 2003 my high school did a Disney trip and our jazz band performed at Carnation Plaza. We leaned into the swing music on that concert and there were so many people dancing. A great memory, miss that place.

[@8opus244]

Same. Sadly I don’t think those kinds of performances happen much anymore.

[@Akumarupup]

17:55 BRO the drummer's costume is the same design they use for the bike riders and flag bearers for the Viva Navidad show in DCA!!!

[@paulayala4816]

I worked for a private consulting firm, that helped with the demolition, relocation of underground utilities in the Carnation Plaza Gardens. It was sort of bitter sweet to work on the project, as the CPG was my dad's favorite place to relax and listen to Big Band music, "for me it was hanging out with my dad eating icecream", while my mom & sisters were checking out the shops on Main St.

[@KhurtKhave669]

Seeing the topiary animals from the monorail at WDW is one of my earliest memories; my first visit at 5 years old in 1977! 🏰😂

[@cmaden78]

Was born in 78 and they are some of my earliest memories too. But I mostly remember them waiting for the ferry. Also, we went a few times a year( one of my great aunts worked there, and my grandma lived in Orlando) and they actually changed them out sometimes ❤✨🩵

[@eftelboy]

16:00 Disneyland Paris has a Grand Canyon Diorama, but no dinosaurs

[@JohnMatthewVO]

We used to go down usually in September and see Buddy Rich perform at Carnation Gardens. This is going back 40+ years now. We'd watch all 3 sets, didn't go on any rides or do anything else. Amazing to see the greatest drummer of all time from a few feet away, I'm sure I'll never experience anything like that again.

[@swtangie]

i am a southern california native, and when i was in elementary school my school choir would sometimes be invited to sing at the carnation plaza gardens during christmas time. the area is arguably better utilized now, but i always think of the quieter times whenever i pass by nowadays

[@CraigRoccanova]

I walk by those flowers all the time and I had NO idea! Super neat stuff Dallin!

[@jetsons101]

The Golden Gate Bridge at 17:31 looks like it's going through a earthquake, I've been through a few myself.

[@Luckywitz]

16:06 actually the euro Disney railroad has also a grand canyon diorama; its time to get offhand Europe 😂

[@natmarie8227]

im so sad abt Dinosaur closing :( the retro vibes are so good and I doubt indie would have that same feel, although it will definitely be a good ride.... its just sad to lose something so cool lol amazing vid, Dallin!!!

[@EPShockley]

Am I the only one who thinks that, since Disney owns the Indiana Jones franchise, Harrison Ford should provide the voice for the animatronic Indys, throughout the attraction? (Especially since Disney now “owns” him, as well.)

[@fad23]

I'm so glad you mentioned Swing Dancing during your section on Carnation Plaza. That was a huge part of the SoCal swing scene for decades! Would love to see a lot more depth about that.

[@jokeal3613]

This would be a great series. At DCA, if you are in the monorail, you can see the original Golden Gate Bridge parts, still painted the same color before and after you cross the bridge

[@profoundcake]

The sound that accompies the numbers in your countdowns always makes me giggle

[@mikehughes4969]

I doubt I'm telling you anything you don't already know, but Walt would often drive the train himself for the park guests. You might just be right about him building the park for the train.

[@brandonkstarr]

I have never felt as old in my life as I did watching this video. I lived all of the references listed in this video.

[@kylegarrett9212]

“Choose wisely” nod to Last Crusade

[@zeromod1]

The carnation plaza garden was dope, got me interested in swing dancing. Sad to see it go.

[@DetectiveCam]

Appreciate you man. Been dreaming about what Disneyland was to me as a kid recently.

[@Evilpadrocks]

Disneyland Paris railroad does have a grand canyon showcase though

[@itcamefromthe90s89]

Disneyland Paris DOES have a Grand Canyon Diorama.

[@anycast22]

Excelent video! Congratulations on 300K subscribers Dalin!

[@ericnelson8422]

I love your content! It always puts a smile on my face! Rock on my friend!!

[@imlegos2153]

They actually still hand out the Indiana cards. I got one a year or two ago myself. You just have to get lucky with the CM

[@jetsons101]

A Disney Park without a Railroad is like a day without sunshine OR A day without a Offhand Disney video..............

[@jetsons101]

@ryan-uk6jf WDW had a R.R., it was just closed for way to long. lol

[@averyeml]

Shanghai not having a train was one of those weird moments I didn’t realize until it was well into my trip, but yeah it does make everything weirder. Like you notice something’s missing from the front of the park but it doesn’t really set in until you’re like “aw I’m tired and I need to get over to my show on the other end of the park” and can’t hop the train

[@JazzyGrant]

I've done a fair bit of swing dancing and it sounds like so much fun to go to a throwback night at the park for some dancing!

[@nzjonty]

Wow 🤯 - that first one, is an absolute stunner or research, Park lore and knowledge. I know some top tens that would have loved that. Tip of the GCT Train Conductors Hat 🎩

[@TaniaTimes]

I used to babysit a kid who was really into train layouts, and after watching his videos and playing with him for a while, I realized that all of Disneyland can be seen as a very elaborate, not quite full size, train layout,

[@chrishintz1077]

It all started with a train. ;). Thanks so much for this great deep dive vlog. Especially liked that you included carnation plaza gardens. But did you know that Jean Lafitte (Jean Lafitte!) used to book big bands into that venue?

[@Midknight824]

My personal favorite remnant of Disney history is the fact that one part of Tomorrowland’s soundtrack loops is actually a rendition of the queue music from the ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter

[@Mumantaii]

I'm pretty sure the Disney Land Paris Railroad does have the Grand Canyon diorama

[@alejiraze7691]

Indeed we do have a Gran Canyon diorama at the Disneyland Railroad here in Paris😅

[@LizzieQueen18]

I went to Blue Bayou during my trip to Disneyland earlier this month and I got a Mint Julep in your honor. It was delicious!

[@Buccaneerfilms]

While the flowers on the railroad are undeniably the same mold as what was used in the Eureka parade, they have been at the New Orleans Station since before DCA opened.

[@coyoteartist]

Now as Main Street was based on the ider of a turn of the century town, the gardens could serve as a reference to something that was becoming big in the US at the turn of the century. Trolly Parks. Picnic/amusement arers that would be set up by street car companies to encourage people to use the lines more as they could take them to these parks at the end of the line. The 2nd Electric Park in Kansas City, which Disney himself touted as inspiration was a trolly park. (The first park using that name was a beer garden).

[@martinb2251]

We DO have the Grand Canyon Diorama at Disneyland Paris 😌

[@SummerDawn]

Freaking awesome video!!! I think you are the 1st KZbinr to list these hidden gems. 👏👏👏

[@gkellogg]

I went to carnation Plaza Gardens a number of times back in the day. Free entry to the park and acts like Buddy Rich and the Basie Big Band. It was a blast.

[@GamingTeacher]

I actually still have my launch era Indiana Jones translation card! I forgot to bring it with me on my last visit, but it’s now hanging on my Disney pin lanyard.

[@MikeOxlong-mo8oh]

Your rant about not being able to eat on the various magic kingdom esque trains sounded like a Jerry Seinfeld bit. “What’s the deal with not being able to eat on the Disneyland trains”

[@FullMetalWeirdo]

I remember the first time I rode the DL train, I didn't know about the display areas. Those heads startled me so badly because I wasn't expecting them and it was getting close to sundown 😂

[@cinnamonsugar-qx6qd]

I find it comical that a facilty built around time travel and Dinos would have the formulas for ketch mayo and mustard that- that right there is the Disney difference

[@Bonehead_V]

One of my personal favorite examples is the few remnants of Stitch's Great Escape, The ride que has been used for a Stitch Meet and Greet in the past, and everything is intact! There's also still Galactic Federation branding and signs around the outside of the old ride! Also, it's turned off most of the time, but sometimes the Peoplemover will still talk about Stitch's Great Escape! (Its rare but that voiceline is still heard sometimes)

[@scruffydog2]

Disneyland Paris does have a Grand Canyon seen on the train.

[@EthanTotten]

"I am off a different `train` of belief..." I see what you did there...

[@austinphillips3086]

I thought (and still am under the impression) that the “choose wisely” sign is in reference to the three choices guest can “make” when going through the three different chambers at the beginning of the ride. Since in the longer preshow, we learn we are part of the craze of guests coming to see one of our three desires granted, but by the end of the ride, we learn that those riches, wisdom, or youth were not worth the risk of death. The sign at the end (although sponsored) spoke to the morale lesson of the ride. With changes in later years, this storyline plot point is lost on most casual guests.

[@Blu923the2nd]

Disneyland Paris does have the Grand Canyon

[@hazonku]

Went to Disney World for the first time a couple of years ago. Always wanted to ride Dinosaur ever since Animal Kingdom opened. I had an absolute blast on that ride. Might be because I love dinosaurs, but I also suspect the fact I was absolutely cross faded from several beers, pain killers, and an edible might have had something to do with it too. Either way I had fun and I got a great photo of my wife white knuckling the grab bar with this stern face like she was just waiting for the ride to be over already and me with my arms up having the time of my life. So glad I got to experience that ride before they replace it. Also I was actually at DCA on opening day and even as a too cool for much of anything teenager I genuinely enjoyed the Eureka parade. That whole park felt half assed and then out of nowhere they have this mid day parade that is just so incredibly extra and full of that classic Disney attention to detail that it genuinely felt weird. I will NEVER forget that and Eureka is definitely my favorite parade because of how underwhelming DCA was on opening day.

[@michaelsullivan3581]

Yup! Walt built Disneyland to have his own Steam Powered Railroad. And his own Steam Powered Riverboat as well! Thank you, Dallin, for your diligent espousery!

[@Calix772]

My money is on us getting a reiteration of a DisneySea Indiana Jones ride replacing Dinosaur. I'm here for it. Loved their theming

[@jeffb33]

"Choose wisely" is now supposed to refer to choosing the "correct" door for yourself (As well as the correct cell carrier). Also, Disneyland Paris DOES have the Grand Canyon Diorama.

[@RaechelSykes]

Swing Dancing was quite a thing. We dressed up and did it 1993 to 1994

[@Lis4Real25]

Oh no no. Your okay AT&T absolutely are terrible. One of the worst companies I've had to deal with.

[@KatMusic2009]

It's "do not go GENTLE into that good night"! Dylan Thomas.

[@ThemeParkOgre]

The Eureka parade song is great, recommend giving it a listen!

[@brianb8060]

That Natazu, commercial just made me feel old. AK opened about a month and a half before I graduated high school.

[@Lordvader330]

Excellent Video. So happy to be a patron.