5 Rules Every EV Owner Needs to Know

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[@BTC909]

80-85% for NCA & NMC batteries. 100% for LFP.

[@l10industries]

Just as an aside, you are still doing damage to your LFP battery by charging it to 100%. It is just offset by the order of magnitude longer they last than NMC. That being said, I'd still probably charge to 100%.

[@barryw9473]

@@l10industries Once a week 100% for LFP should be good enough for BMS to calibrate. Agree 100% daily is bad for LFP, though less damaging than for NCM or NCA.

[@BTC909]

Same, once the battery warranty is about gone sell it.@@l10industries

[@GaryPigott]

He’s saying to stop DC charging at 80% for charging speed reasons, which is still valid for LFPs.

[@jaywalker1233]

@@barryw9473 amazing how many Tesla owners reject this because nowhere does The HolyBook of Tesla actually say this 🤣

[@cherrytreepermaculture756]

We have used Level 1 chargers for our 2 EVs with good success based.on hownfar we drive daily.

[@AutoEsoterica]

That's great, saves you the cost of buying a Level 2 charger and potentially getting it installed. I suspect Level 1 isn't quite enough for most drivers, but everyone's needs are different. Thanks! - Craig

[@AdamTreier]

It's fine if you drive less than 100 miles a day on average

[@travisyarbrough4033]

New studies say to top off the battery once a month if you are a commuter only. Under 90% for the other 29 days. Stanford has done a lengthy study and concluded topping off once a month helps level out the cells and give the batteries a better " Life " Maybe

[@barryw9473]

Studies have shown there is very little difference between heavy DCFC usage and mostly AC charging. While it is better to mostly AC charge, exclusive DCFC will add a small amount of degradation. You need to add a 6th rule that is more important than avoiding DCFC: Do not charge to 100% on a daily basis and do not leave pack at 100% for more than a few hours, and especially avoid 100% when very hot. Get a car with a pack large enough so 100% charging is a rare occurrence. Charge daily to a max of 80% and less if you do not need the range. Waking up to what you need for the day, not a full pack, is the best practice for battery longevity.

[@AutoEsoterica]

Great suggestion. Thanks for watching and commenting! - Craig

[@l10industries]

This is exactly it. It is a heat issue, not a speed issue as far as charging is concerned.

[@barryw9473]

@@shannon6876it does. LFP is lithium ion.

[@DanielBrownOre]

​@@barryw9473nonsense, LFP can be charged to 100% safely without degradation, that's the difference between those without iron anode.

[@barryw9473]

@@DanielBrownOre No. LFP can endure more cycles than NCM or NCA due to the lower voltage potential but charging LFP cells to 100% every day will make them degrade faster than if you charge them to 80% every day. This is a misconception about LFP because of its very flat voltage curve which requires frequent 100% charging so the BMS can be calibrated. NCM and NCA cell voltage curve has a significant slope that makes it very easy for BMS calibration and thus 100% charge is not needed routinely. Also, LFP cells contain lithium ions that travel back and forth between the anode and cathode, just like NCM and NCA cells.

[@BoricuaFez]

Had a range anxiety moment with our 2019 BMW i3, so we tested out a DC Fast charging, successful battery pick up from 27% to 75% enough to get us home .

[@Evan_Land]

I have a Bolt EUV, work from home, only charge level 1 (at 12 amps) and drive an average of 40 miles per day 5 days a week. This has worked well for me so far since I stay plugged in around 16 hours a day (charging 4 miles per hour for a total of ~60 miles of charge increase per day). My drive is half highway, half city. That said, consider a level-2 charger a must for anyone who can't charge all day.

[@normt430]

We have 2018 CT6 2.0E plug-in with 40 miles of EV range before gas engine kicks on. We charge mostly at 8-amps at home over night with free charging from work.

[@niceguyny1]

As an EV owner for over a year, this is good advice.

[@AutoEsoterica]

Thanks for watching! What EV do you own? - Craig

[@alanpeterson6768]

Range is nice, but overrated. After a couple of hours, I need to get out of the car for a few minutes anyway. I try to keep my runs between chargers in the 140 to 160 mile range.

[@dellusionportland8867]

Great tips, but i don't really worry about charging to 80%, because i got enough range to my destination and back with my Ariya. However, this was a very important, well informed and most importantly, timely video about proper practises. Keep up the good you and your team sir, Much respect.

[@AutoEsoterica]

Thanks for your kind words! - Craig

[@geert5811]

@@AutoEsotericaAnd also though the Ariay can charge at "only" 150kw the charging curve hardly goes down when reaching 80% that's not only my personal experience but also confirmed by the youtube EV authority Björn Nyland

[@garydmercer]

I have only level one charging at home. Works for me. Only have used super chargers 4 times in 3 months as I was running around in 112F heat. Live in the Sonoran desert. High heat eats through battery much more. Planning is key. No problems for me so far.😊

[@hereigoagain5050]

Range has become a marketing talisman. A good portfolio for 2 car households is a short range EV as a commuter/city car, and an hybrid for road trips. Why pay for a big battery when most days are less than 50 miles? Great video!

[@neilellison8984]

One of the best EV video's I have seen for beginners. I have a BYD Atto3 for over a year now and have owned Pure EVs for 12 years, once you understand how they operate their is NO turning back. I have not been to a gas station now for over 12 years and 'O' what a feeling

[@jesseh.5141]

Thank you for the great video!! We've onwed an EV for a couple of years now and it is refreshing to find videos that promote the use of EV's without a "but". Each and everyone of those rules are right on point.

[@EVPulse]

Thank you so much for your kind words! It means a lot to hear that the video resonated with you.

[@AutoEsoterica]

Thank you so much for watching and for your kind words! - Craig

[@JBsC6]

Good insights Craig Cole. Thank you.

[@gregoryg1823]

Someone please explain to me how Americans distinguish “rout” from “route”. Thanks.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

I think it's important for people to realize that a "long range" model has a bigger battery pack and therefore will cost MORE TO CHARGE. It's no different than ordering a car with a larger gas tank.

[@YeCannyDaeThat]

Well that's wrong... The cost to charge depends only on the energy you use. i.e. the miles driven. The tank can be tiny or huge. Makes no difference. For example if you drive 300 miles with a car with a 100 mile range you need to charge 3 times to get there at cost "X". With a larger batter you can charge once at... you guessed it the exact same cost. You are paying for Kwh's.

[@GraysonA]

@@YeCannyDaeThat I think his point is that larger battery pack and larger gas tank for the same vehicle = heavier, so more cost per mile for gas or electricity

[@YeCannyDaeThat]

@@GraysonA that would be so marginal it's a non point. You're talking cents per trip.

[@GraysonA]

@@YeCannyDaeThat Yeah, agree. He didn't say how much more to charge haha

[@GraysonA]

@@YeCannyDaeThat I google'd and found out that larger battery pack can be make the battery 25% of the car's weight. This channel won't let me post link in comment.

[@restfulplace3273]

Level 2 chargers with adjustable charge rate are a must have to use solar.

[@tonydeleon5029]

Great advice. I charge at DC fast chargers to 90% on long road trips.

[@chong22248]

For level 2 charger at home, should I charge it using 7kw or 22kw to maximise the longevity of the battery life?

[@EVPulse]

7 would likely be better but the difference is likely not statistically significant

[@EVPulse]

@EVPulse YMMV, of course

[@cs_fl5048]

I have the Ioniq 5 for around town and short trips, but I also have an internal combustion engine car for longer trips.

[@Gofast49442]

I have a bolt and 80 percent of my charging is done w level1 charg we e

[@hobartspitz1029]

Or better, get a PHEV. My 2017 reads 82 MPG, lifetime. It's cheaper, charges overnight with level 1, discounted electricity, no range anxiety, no battery degradation, and zero rules. A 12.5 gallon fill-up can last me as much as 6 months.

[@AaronStein]

if i drive a Tesla, seems like i should be able to use Tesla Superchargers all the time. why would Tesla have Superchargers located all around my city if i shouldn't supercharge all the time? is there a ratio of charges i should use between AC (slow) and DC (fast)? for example, 5 slows to 1 fast?

[@jacobheinz8236]

These are not necessarily for you but are available. It’s mainly for Tesla owners from other cities n towns passing through your city. Just as you will stop at other cities with your imaginary Tesla. Taxi drivers may use Superchargers within the same town too.

[@dianahartley-kim7109]

Great tips!

[@MrJinske]

I have driven evs since 2012 and have excellent home charging. I always charge my evs to 100% everyday, I treat them just like cellular phones, I don't worry about degradation. They don't lose much at all. Just drive and enjoy them it's simple plug and unplug and drive don't worry.

[@cs_fl5048]

The new psychological condition called Range Anxiety got me. Between Sweetwater and Lubbock there is a wasteland if you don't have a Tesla in which case Post has ONE, count it, ONE of those, if it is working. I even have an Ioniq 5 with the 80 KWh battery RWD only. But loaded up for a hot summer road trip with AC and all the lovely diving assists turned on... that's still a stretch.

[@briansung3036]

Thanks for the advice 😊 I’ll soon own one too 😅

[@JodyYestrau]

The biggest obstacle for me to spend extra on an EV is the range and charging time. Sure, 90% of the time, with home charging, there should be no issues. However, when I want to go somewhere, I want to go by the most direct route in timeline fashion. EVs require alternate routes and more frequent stops.

[@Trendingupwards]

By the way, I was going to send you a photo of my EV, however, my EV is newer in the photo. I took the photo 1 hour ago. My EV is 1 hour older now. 4:38

[@hughmacgregor5435]

I have a Mitsubishi I-miev. It's 12 years old. One cell, that's right just one cell dropped. It has only ever been recharged from a normal 240 volt household socket (Australia). I was getting over 100 Kms range (16.5kw) battery. I can put a new 30kw battery in it. But the cost is way up there. But the range goes up to 250 Kms easy. Some say 270kms. I know that's more than enough for me here in Sydney. So it's a choice. Sell it with a few new cells and use that money and the money I would pay for the new battery plus another $15,000 and buy a new EV. But here's the thing. Most cars depreciate at $100 per week or more. But the i-miev is already depreciated to its maximum. So the depreciation would be just the battery now. That's about $25 per week over the next 10 years. So is it a good idea for people to buy a used EV cheap and put a new battery in it. Because you are saving at least $75 per week. That's over 300% saving. This never dawns on anyone on the internet making KZbin vids etc. Nobody at all. Anywhere. But I have. Why is it just me that thinks of this. Or am I wrong somewhere. Plus it will save a lot of EVs ending up on the scrap heap. And it's good for the environment. Not that many people care about the environment it seem these days. Particularly here in Australia. What do you think?

[@yvs6663]

check out what the range listed on sites like ev database is. manufacturers range estimates can probably only be achieved if you drive like a saint in town or keep it under 100kmh constant on the highway. or watch some independant tests.

[@davidmenasco5743]

Yes, the range on the sticker is just like the MPG on the sticker. It's not intended to tell you what range you will get. It's intended as a means for comparing one car to another when looking to buy. Unfortunately, it's not very good at that either. But that's a different subject.

[@craigw.scribner6490]

Thanks!

[@mikeforwarduk]

Why no mention of teslas awesome supercharger network?

[@MHdollrevievs]

Elon Musk a few months ago fired the whole supercharger team. Elon Musk gave the Trump campaign $180 million, Talk about pissing off your customers. Tesla use to be cool now they are uncool.

[@trish50DE]

Not as great in Europe. Varies by country.

[@mikewallace8087]

People don't discuss filling up their gas tanks . You talk about charging your batteries because there are at least FIVE points of concern to charge them .

[@jluis333]

Rule number 6 get a tesla if you don't want to worry about charging on roadtrips. Found a model 3 rwd with a 78kw battery and on the road can't get time to have a leak and snack. the map software will show you the stops and time you need to charge which is quite nifty (unless there is no supercharger around then it just says no can do and you have to pull out your abetterrouteplanner to find a ccs station somewhere)

[@MHdollrevievs]

Elon Musk a few months ago fired the whole supercharger team. Elon Musk gave the Trump campaign $180 million, Talk about pissing off your customers. Tesla use to be cool now they are uncool.

[@cs_fl5048]

Take a while......On a DC fastcharger My Ioniq 5 gets from 10 to 80 in 18 minutes...the last 20% would take a minimum of 30-40 minutes and I can charge at 235 KW or so on a DC fastcharger, which is better than most other cars.

[@rp9674]

People already think they need more range and they really do, don't encourage them

[@WilliamBunch-z9s]

I got my Nissan Ariya and had my mom put gas in it LMAO it took her 45 minutes to try to figure it out. It was hilarious.

[@Ponders84]

If you leave your car at a public charger overnight, switch the charger lock to while charging so others can use it when your battery is full.

[@b3arwithm3]

In California it is not that much cheaper to charge at home. Half the price at best.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

My cousin lives 70 miles away in New Jersey. Personally, I don't feel comfortable driving there in my EV yet. There is an EVgo charging station near him, but if I was over there I have no idea the state they would be in nor whether I'd have to wait on line a long time or not. My 2024 Cadillac Lyriq has free EVgo charging for 2 years and I intend to use it as much as possible instead of charging at home. As far as DC fast charging: most of these fast chargers I've used are barely hitting 70 kW. Mostly they charge around 50 kW and drop from there. As my Lyriq is a LEASE, I'm not worried about battery longevity. It takes 2 HOURS to fully charge my Lyriq on the EVgo chargers I've used. It takes 7 HOURS to charge overnight at home. I won't feel comfortable about long distance drives till Tesla opens up their supercharger network and I have a Lectron Vortex adapter. Even then, I'd be spending around $40 for a full charge (off-peak). The Cadillac XT5 and XT6 use regular unleaded gas, seat more people and aren't burdened with charge times. They actually make more sense - except I wanted something "new"

[@GraysonA]

If your cousin allows, you can charge at 110V overnight at their house

[@fortniteharambe]

I'm curious why you are concerned about a 70 mile distance as a Lyric should do that round trip in the very worst case scenario, and normally have plenty of room leftover. Also wondering what the battery longevity concern is for a lease, as the battery will be under warranty well beyond the term of any normal lease.

[@BogeyTheBear]

I have taken several 70-mile drives and consumed only 25% of the battery (meaning the round trip ate half of the overall battery capacity).

[@Idaho_Spud]

Seems like undue range anxiety.

[@davidmenasco5743]

It sounds to me like you're devoting an awful lot of effort to creating completely bogus reasons to second guess driving EVs. There is absolutely no reason to worry about a 70 mile trip in a Lyriq. And if that's as far as you need to go, there's no reason to charge to 100%. To be honest, looking closely at your statement, I'm about 90% certain that your whole story is a fiction that you've made up. But if you really did buy the Lyriq just to have "something new," then you should embrace it, and dump that old school fear mongering and FUD slinging.

[@johngalt5411]

I may be inclined to add a 6th rule; charge your EV with energy harvested from the sun otherwise you are just displacing emissions to a coal or gas generator power plant located somewhere else.

[@edsmale]

No, you aren’t. Even with 100% coal (which doesn’t exist in the US), EV would still have less emissions. How is that you would obviously ask? Electric motors are significantly more efficient than ICE vehicles. Gas engines use upwards of 70% in heat and noise. Only 30% is going to the wheels.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Think of it this way: You can get the power to move your vehicle from fossil fuel burned at a large scale for thousands for customers other than yourself, in a plant that has the space and infrastructure to handle the emissions... or you can carry and burn that fossil fuel all for yourself.

[@muskrat3291]

Nope, not true. Coal and gas power plants operate at much higher temperatures than a combustion engines therefore a more complete burn of fuel, which means less fuel burned and more efficiency. If the US were 100% coal power plants (we are 19.5%) and 100% EV, air pollution would drop significantly and our transportation energy use would drop by 31%. Substitute coal for natural gas, which is cleaner and more efficient than coal, transportation energy use would drop by 48%. Make that 100% hydro and energy use drops by 75%.

[@kevinmoulden-ok5to]

Well, my electric is from a nuclear plant... so I guess I'll turn into the toxic avenger LOL

[@cbatiau2528]

Many communities get electricity only from renewable sources, including my own …. And we are nowhere near Niagara Falls

[@ScrappyDoodad]

I drive very little so I prefer to charge between 50% to 65%

[@денисбаженов-щ1б]

The risk of fast chargers is exaggerated - plus it's kind of argument against EVs. Modern EVs with battery of some size can handle fast charging pretty well. Only people charging to 100% and often can really substantially reduce the battery life. Even if you go from 1500 cycles to 1000, with 250 miles driving each time, it would represent about 20 years of average use in US - and more than 25 years in Europe. Even if drivetrain and battery will be in good condition, well, few people would like to keep the car for longer.

[@Techridr]

DC fast chargers are typically used on road trips. Using this rule of charging to 80% is absolutely horrible advice. Fast charging on road trips will change depending on the trip. There will be times you need to charge to maybe 90% or 100% to make it to the next stop. But more often than not you only need to charge to 50% or 70% or whatever it takes for that leg of the trip. Each trip dictates the charge level not a rule. That rule will get you in trouble or waste a lot of time. Luckily my Tesla does all that calculating for me so it is very efficient, but for those in EV’s without such automatic route planning, using A better route planner (ABRP) will also give you the correct charge amount for each stop.

[@barryw9473]

120 V, not 110, FYI.

[@andreasek8549]

Don't agree to rule 2. You should buy a car with battery size of what you need in your everyday life. If you do a few longer trips and don't think you could accept one or two more charging stops, rent another car. This way you don't have to pay more for anything you rearily use. And also for the planet. Everyone DO NOT NEED to go 300 miles without one single stop.

[@chrismorel1837]

Having a car and rent a car for a travel it doesn't make sense in my head

[@andreasek8549]

@@chrismorel1837 so you rather buy a more expensive car for 1% of your travel needs than a cheaper for 99% of your travels? THAT makes no sense...

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

As my 2024 Lyriq is a lease, I'm not worried about the battery life or its health. Winter driving steals range from EV when the HVAC is on and when the car is conditioning itself. Rather than charging to 85% (285 miles) I charge to 100%. (307 miles) "100%" is actually "99%" as they never truly allow you to charge to "100%" . Fine by me, but I want to see at least "300 miles" on that gauge before I leave. The real reason I think they don't want us charging past 85% is because they want to keep the charge queue moving along. These batteries are gonna be toast after 3 years anyway.

[@edsmale]

There is MANY batteries that exist older then 3 years old. Glad you don’t give a f about the next owner. So typical

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@edsmaleIt's the American way.

[@davidmenasco5743]

Keeping the cars moving along is one good reason to recommend charging to 85%, but there are two other reasons. One is that it does make a difference in battery life, especially if the car sits after charging, which doesn't really apply on road trips. The other reason does apply especially on road trips: On a long trip, charging to 100% at every stop, can cost you a couple of hours of precious time, as compared to stopping at 65% and moving along.

[@duncreg]

Sounds like it would be less work traveling by horse!

[@charleslitwin3351]

There is a lot of privilege in these recommendations. Basically don't get an EV if you don't own your own home and have a garage to install a level 2 charger in. I just got the ionic 5 and have a 110 outlet at the end of my driveway so am using a level 1 and get enough range with a 12 hour charge to cover my commute. If I work from home I just leave it plugged in until it's 100. But I'm lucky. If I lived in an apartment or parked on the street I would be forced to use DC charging that even with discounts would cost twice as much as home charging

[@memonk11]

So... what's the "significant advantages"?!

[@paulmcgraw9284]

Not for nothing but ICE vehicles are still more convenient. You can fill it up in minutes and you can fill it up every time you refuel.

[@kelalamusic9258]

🤔 The lowest range you can easily afford? Don’t you mean the highest/longest range you can easily afford?

[@richardmarciano7158]

Hahahaha..if ur battery not a lithium iron phospate😂😂😂😂

[@simonstegel]

Alternatively just buy a gas car and be carefree.

[@JMLE1949]

REALLY LOL

[@antibureaucrat]

Duh !!!

[@skentmyleg]

No thanks. What too much trouble, I'll stick with my old antique bronco or Tahoe.

[@Anders-k2l]

Click bate.

[@LionRoars918]

Why EV's are dying. It is very location specific if they are selling.

[@nealkaye9056]

If I have half a tank of gas in my ICE car, it takes me...oh...about 2 1/2 minutes to fill it up to 100%, not 80%. And my tires last for 40K miles minimum.

[@davidmenasco5743]

That's very nice. But if I plug my EV in at home, it takes about 5 seconds. And I don't have to go out of my way to stop at a gas station. And I never have to breathe those toxic and carcinogenic fumes. Each power train has advantages and disadvantages. It just so happens that EVs have one advantage that really stands out. EVs can be part of the solution to climate change. ICE cars cannot. They can only be part of the problem.

[@modeticklestv4601]

You came to hate? Title clearly state 5 Rules Every EV Owner Needs to Know. Get a life dude

[@allgoo196]

When you drive ICE you don't have to know any rules. When you drive EV, you have to baby the battery. i hate babying.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Don't drive with less than 1/4 a tank. Otherwise you're going to pick up all the residue at the bottom of the gas tank and clog up your fuel filter (fuel tank cleaning solutions will also require you to replace the filter sooner since all the gunk dissolved gets caught in the filter). Don't hoard gas in anything other than an approved fuel container. Filling up garbage cans and disacarded water bottles with gas before a hurricane's arrival is a bad idea. Don't let gas sit in the tank or storage can for more than six months, otherwise it will polymerize into varnish. Freak out when stuck in traffic because your engine still needs to burn fuel just to keep the crankshaft spinning 30 times a second even when standing still.

[@bob-qi4nr]

@@BogeyTheBear

[@EVPulse]

Don't forget oil changes. We hear those are important.

[@bob-qi4nr]

@@EVPulse I drive 5000mi a year so once a year I have to go to jiffy lube for 10 minutes. Life sure is hard.

[@allgoo1990]

@@EVPulse "Don't forget oil changes. We hear those are important." == My car needs oil change every 7500 miles I won't die if I didn't. You can't trust the reading of how much electricity you have left. Don't get in freezing temperature, don't get burned in a fire(in EVs). How many people do you know died in ICE?

[@F85M]

No. 1. Donut buy One. Solved.