5 SIGNS you are NOT an IJ (INFJ, INTJ, ISTJ, ISFJ) | Ni and Si Introverted Perceiving Hero

[@SabrinaSterlingGA]

Let's plan our spontaneity!

[@jonathancampbell5231]

Let's organise our misadventures!

[@kavya914]

😂

[@jamalcole1985]

🤣🤣🤣 ..

[@michaelajacobsen3619]

That's a contradiction if I've seen one

[@sue2cue]

Perfectly said.

[@samuelunias673]

I would say, for the Si side, that the comparison is not blunt, but rather that Si doesn't want to be deluded by the "shiny" aspects. The focus is on what stays consistent through time.

[@VeggieJohnx2]

Oh Em Gee! I love the shiny aspects as an INFP! lol. But I also wish I could stay more consistent with everyday things, especially for the sake of improvement (I guess that is my inner STJ whispering in my ear)… but then Ne takes over and follows all the shiny things. lol & sigh

[@mirinae_]

There are a lof these ”signs you are/are not this type” videos out there but you guys take it to the next level! Awesome concrete examples (instead of extreme stereotypes) that are easy to undestand even for people who aren’t that familiar with mbti. Can’t wait to see the rest of these! 😍

[@kavya914]

Yes🙌

[@Ann_Archie]

The more I research this topic, the less I know which type I am.

[@VortexThePrime]

I've always disliked how INFJs are typically described as planners, and I think it causes a lot of confusion. Si is maybe more likely to actually do a step by step plan, but I like to think that Ni likes to "prepare". I'm not a planner predominantly, I'm a preparer. I want to know what to expect, how it might go (as you guys said so well in the video). I want to feel like I'm prepared to handle any details that may arise. If I feel prepared and I've thought it through then I'm okay with the idea, and can be very adventurous. For example I enjoyed skydiving and love roller coasters. I love my adrenaline pumping, it actually makes me feel calm, but I have to feel like I'm prepared to enjoy it. For skydiving, I did a ton of research first, and even with something that's not as safe, I can enjoy it if I feel as though I'm informed enough about the subject to avoid danger. It's all about me being able to come up with solutions or mental experience in order to avoid a catastrophe. I'm actually good in a crisis, but my preference is to avoid it as much as possible. Edit: Also wanted to add that I really enjoy things like skydiving and rollercoasters due to not being able to live in the moment. Situations like the aforementioned force me to be in the moment. It's difficult for me to just be in the moment without a potentially fatal or dangerous situation, sadly. 😂

[@VeggieJohnx2]

Hmm… as an introvert I also totally prepare, especially with unfamiliar situations. But I am also not an IJ, so I wonder what the difference is?

[@JonasAnandaKristiansson]

Yesss

[@jessica-pf9fy]

I agree so much w this

[@hebele_]

I have heard and read about the first four elements but I don't believe I have heard the last one. And it really was an interesting fact. Thank you for the new information and great examples

[@cazbee6126]

INFJ who went skiing for the first time age 19 when my ISTP friend rang to say we could get it for half price if we got the bus that evening. 1. value life experiences, no matter how stressful. Want to be reminiscing when I'm 80, not regreting that I wasted my life. 2. HALF PRICE. Need I say more 😆

[@fatasssquirrel1731]

INFJ Ni/Ti - I've always held to the personal belief that if you've walked 10 steps you've seen the world. The physical world means nothing to me, as I could never experience the same feeling that people get by 'doing' things, like riding dirt bikes, or horses, having dates, mingling, dancing...etc. The common view is that if you're not active that somehow you'll regret it when you're 70 -- I don't believe that at all, that somehow by experiencing activities somehow it raises a meter called 'life-fulfillment' like some videogame. I think what people are trying to say is that the experience is meaningful, and that somehow dampens the dread of death, it's just that for some activities are also an end in-itself (ESXP). Meaningful activities for me have always been abstract rather than physical -- I get 0% enjoyment unless it's weightlifting, videogames, or shooting guns. As a kid I might has well been crippled mentally because I never wanted to 'do' anything.

[@Love_her_so_much]

​@@fatasssquirrel1731as an intp, i could relate. But idk, i want to have external achievement still. It's just harder for me to get into this action oriented task.

[@VeggieJohnx2]

#5 I totally see in myself as an INFP… and I see it strongly in INTPs I know in certain (social) context. I totally know what I think about myself, but have a super poor sense of how other people view me… And if I do get fixated on what others think of me, it tends to be a negative space since it is the lower part of my stack. INFJs I have known, I wouldn’t say their sense of self is balanced, as mentioned for IJs in the video… but more like, they require a lot of feedback from others, then they will take a lot of time to decide if they “do the thing” mentioned by others. But because the way Ni and Ti work, that equilibrium is often in flux, as if constantly testing out what others (Fe) are saying.

[@annerittwage1401]

Thank you for this video. I am sometimes unsure if I truly am an INFJ, but while hearing your thoughts on the signs, I kept getting flashbacks of some moments. Especially when it comes to "foresight". Even if I get into risky and chaotic situations, I am well aware of what I am doing and how this could turn out (though I'm most certainly dissociating at the time), otherwise I would have left the situation. Regarding this sensitivity to other's opinions and own identity, I do have BPD which probably is why I can take other's opinions to heart.

[@kavya914]

I love this!

[@cydonianknight1602]

I'm an ISFJ, and i'm kinda over nostalgic and melancholic, does that happen to anyone else here?

[@LilacSnowBun]

Love this video series! Thank you 🌷🌷💕💕🐇🐇

[@Claego]

Okay thats weird. As an INTP who actually might be an ISFJ, I agreed with all of the points except the last one. In every way I'm an ISFJ except the last part. I've had phases in my life where I DID swing back and forth between unawareness of the tribes view of me and then hypersensitivity to what the tribe thinks of me. But no, I guess generally things stay at a status quo lately.

[@LittleMew133]

As an INFJ, I agree. We tend to be very reserve and careful, dislike over stimulation and chaos.

[@lisafoster3494]

Yes chaos and over stimulation banes of my existence

[@lizziedizzie3304]

Recently as an Intj , After Covid, things have become so unpredictable and so abstract. Planning is not quiet working. Whatever I plan, the govt. takes steps which are completely out of the blue and the plan gets ruined.... and with my inferior function diving into details is giving me anxiety lol

[@MariamZawjatNomayri]

Interesting thoughts. Thank you for sharing

[@Love_her_so_much]

Yeah, as an ip, i guess the biggest difference is the gap with self conviction from internal and little clue about how people think about things. It's been really daunting. Generally speaking, i feel like i should have a reason for anything that i do. But conviction gap is just so true for me. I guess i am actually intp.

[@samtula5946]

Now I’m confused whether I’m isfj or infp

[@sofiaoriana9070]

No but i plan out my adventures. Im very adventurous and so are many of the ixxjs i know.

[@TheBittenBullet]

But wouldn't their identity functions be more vulnerable and childlike than higher identity functions?

[@MariamZawjatNomayri]

Interesting. Thank you so much for sharing

[@dominicsey3032]

Based on this I'm not much of an IJ. Interesting type

[@kellikakes81]

Re: #3 Oh I know some I..FJs that end up having NO idea how they got somewhere!!! In these cases I can see it (as one of my NE many possibilities). I'm sure this is mostly due to their Ni/Si ( my experience is more with Ni friends) not matching with their projected outcomes....them being wrong about how the thing was supposed to go, so they can't understand it. Then they talk it out to me and understand better.

[@editorjeannie2318]

Look before you leap

[@sschwartz1488]

How did you become a certified coach if you don't mind me asking?! I'd be very interested in learning how!

[@lusonatuga5741]

Would Te and Fe doms suffer from the same as described in rule#5? Or is it manly for Ti and Fi? Because Te and Fe doms have the discrepancy too, only in a different sense.

[@ac-jn1iq]

Could that sensitivity be a result of trauma tho. Like if you went through domestic abuse where you developed hyperawareness

[@JoyceMeng22]

Yes! Totally possible.

[@flowinsounds]

as an INTJ, i compared the calm of a white wall with the calm of chaos, and realised that embracing chaos without losing calm was an effective alternative route to peace that was interesting. Living in the moment becomes a necessity to avoid spiraling into fractal potentials. There are so many unknowns, so many iterative potentials, that what becomes important is not the probabilities and potentials themselves, but rather the pattern of them. Once the pattern is seen, the details, that dive into the fractal dimensions of getting lost in introversion and calculation, is unnecessary. Seems to me your descriptions match people who are stuck, and have not looked at their weaknesses and blind sides in order to become whole

[@ac-jn1iq]

What if you’ve made dangerous decisions, but you knew it was going to go wrong before you did it, and you felt apathetic about it.

[@getreadywithmemamma]

I feel like teaching an improve class for ixxjs…. They would resent me, but the freedom man that would be interesting for them. I think they would be the most intense once they got started and understood the process haha. The ISFJ’s would leave, or never show up that’s my Mom we are the best odd couple dynamic around, but actually really need each other for balance. I find ixxjs for sanity and grounding.

[@dogdonut3]

Your mom would show up if you told her this class was important to you and you wanted her there. She'd probably have some good practical advice after the class (ways to change it for the next time). She'd also probably recommend a book she's read or heard about involving improv (because you like it so it's on her radar), like Impro by Keith Johnstone. It's a great book, btw!

[@getreadywithmemamma]

@@dogdonut3 hahaha no, she would prejudge it and find ways to not like it Ahha. She got a migraine in a yoga class I made her try which is totally a physiological response and I felt horrible about but then that was her logic for why yoga was awful for everyone after that. That’s not every ISFJ for sure, ahah but having an Exfp daughter will make you more pessimistic about ideas haha. We are hilarious together and the book thing is accurate Ahha.

[@cazbee6126]

I did canyoning/climbing in my 20s/early 30s. But I would never be the first to abseil off that rope. Gotta make sure it's long enuf and strong enuf first (thx Pe peeps for being guinea pigs). Even indoor climbing I would always do a 'rope test' first. Get reeled in by the belayer and sit to check. And guess what? I'm still alive!! (INFJ)

[@SweSuf]

None of these signs apply to me, but then I have been typed as ISTJ.

[@Sam-bc9ll]

5 signs you’re NOT an IxxJ: 1. You love to improvise and go with the flow - IxxJs are cautious planners - IxxJs need a purpose to try new things 2. You have to hold yourself back from taking charge - IxxJs take charge only in familiar settings, and they need permission to do so 3. You find yourself in precarious situations that are risky and you have no idea how you got there. - IxxJs want to have control over chaos and tend to forecast ahead - any risk is predicated on sufficient research or planning 4. You’re very good at living in the moment - ISxJs are more focused on the past - INxJs are more focused on their vision 5. You have an extreme relationship with how people see you-swinging from unawareness to hypersensitivity to outer work feedback - IxxJs are fairly balanced with interacting with the group, and they can more naturally see others’ pov

[@jankom.7783]

Ni and Si are about personal experiences. But for IJs with Ni, Si as a first function, those personal experiences are for other people. IJs need to be asked by their tribe to go somewhere, do something. So they don't seek experiences, that are not useful to their tribe.

[@darkteletubby7674]

Are you an IFJ type?

[@kellikakes81]

@@darkteletubby7674 doesn't sound like it to me... But I do agree with what he's saying, when I really think about it (I'm ENFP with INFJ best friends, and these types need me to ask them to have "experiences " with them). I also make sure to incorporate what they like too, so it's a win-win. Are IJs aware that they NEED this?? I didn't know until this comment made me think about my ENFP/INFJ dynamic. (And I'm moreso speaking towards the latter part of the post... only because I know it will make the IJ feel better, if this happens. Most IJs aren't this self aware tho. Especially Fe aux ones).

[@jankom.7783]

@@kellikakes81 After learning about cognitive functions for a while and then observing people through this lens, i realized that there are no tribe over self/self over tribe people. We all have similar levels of tribe relationships. ISFP is as tribe oriented as ENTJ. But his responsibility towards a tribe is Fi - to be responsible for preferenced of their tribe - to rank things from most important to do to less important. Just like ENFP responsibility is Ne - to collect understanding of how things/people influence each other (Ni) and give summary of that collection to people. But it has to be requested from the tribe. They will not just be interested it whatever. Demand for it comes from the outside. Our second function is what we usually use to communicate with other people and it is our most comfortable function. Third function is our own. We let nobody to have a say in its use. And fourth is for fun. And if somebody else wants us to use our first function, they have to provide information to our 4th function themselves.

[@ethanmcfarland6606]

@@kellikakes81 INTJ here. Experiencing new things and moving outside of my comfort zone is definitely easiest when it’s with other people, though it’s also the kind of thing where, intellectually, I’m aware of this fact, but it can be hard to remember it or be aware of opportunities where I could take advantage of this knowledge.

[@darkteletubby7674]

@@kellikakes81 On tests of both cognitive functions and letter dichotomies I seem to score high on both INTJ and INTP. I generally will identify as INTJ because it seems like it might be a little closer. I also have two INTP siblings, one of them extreme in preferences, and I can at least tell that if I'm an INTP, my preferences aren't as strong as either of those two. I'm kind of content to just sit around at home by myself for ages, but I also don't feel any particular need for new experiences to be "useful to my tribe" or have anything to do with them whatsoever. Or to be done in the company of a "tribe" member. If I feel an interest in trying some activity, like maybe learning some new dance in a class, it's more likely I'll just go on my own without asking any friends for support or company or whatever.

[@chossenone730]

Guess Ni

[@jessenoreligionno5731]

These aren't convincing me that I am not an IJ, they're having the opposite effect.

[@ro.l4133]

Aren’t you an infp? Lol

[@jessenoreligionno5731]

@@ro.l4133 no, only on the 16 personalities website test, which consensus sais is the worst one. Almost every other test has me as INTJ. Joyce typed me as ISTP.

[@jessenoreligionno5731]

I don't believe ISTP is correct however. Biggest case= most personality types like ISTPs, where as only a few personality types can even stand me.

[@ro.l4133]

@@jessenoreligionno5731 I wouldn’t use the fact that most like istps as a credible reason lol it might gain insight but honestly just understanding which cognitive functions you utilize would be the best tbh. I thought I saw you in a previous vid of hers in the comment section saying you were infp that’s why I assumed lol. Do you have any thoughts at all on what you think you are?

[@jessenoreligionno5731]

@@ro.l4133 90% sure I'm INTJ, the good and the bad descriptions have me nailed down. Joyce says I use TI, but I think TE is more accurate as per Jung's description.

[@samuelunias673]

IJ's are the antithesis of the wheel of fortune.

[@dogdonut3]

They are more like the 9 of Pentacles. (I went right to Tarot with that...might not have been your exact meaning. Lol)

[@samuelunias673]

@@dogdonut3 I don't have the meanings of the cards very clear, but I defenitely thought about the card too. And would love to see your take on the 9 of pentacles.

[@dogdonut3]

@@samuelunias673 Penracles relate to the earth element. 9 isnt the end, but you are accomplished. To me it means you've done the day to day work consistantly. Your garden (life) is in order. She seems wealthy (nice robes, bird--that is trained) and you can see/enjoy the fruits of your labor. But the person in the picture isn't resting or lounging. They are looking slightly to the future (right side of card usually). Taking in everything, but not stuck...there are still things to do and things come.

[@MariamZawjatNomayri]

Interesting thoughts. Thank you for sharing