5 signs you could be overtraining (and the solution)

[@valeri91xx]

Especially the sleeping less is often overlooked in lists like this. Thank you for the flags!

[@brianmessemer2973]

Best description of why the RHR is higher, well done. I agree with all 5 of your signs - I have all 5! Had the realization 2 days ago that I'm experiencing OTS. I'm actually happy (??) because now it all makes sense. I have all the symptoms. But the good news is I ran my first ever marathon nearly two weeks ago! 4:06:27 which I'm very happy with as I'm a fairly new runner started just last October (cycling background). The week before I ran a 10K race (PR'd) instead of my final taper long run (that was a mistake I'll never do that again). Hindsight is 20/20 but I should have predicted this would happen. I've never put myself though such a long and intense period of training/racing before. I wear a Garmin watch 24 hours and saw to my dismay even after the 10K that my HRV was in the red and my RHR was way up and I couldn't figure out in the final taper week why it wasn't bouncing back since I didn't run leading into the marathon. I'm just glad I recognized OTS and understand to REST for the next few weeks. BTW I found your channel in the spring and have learned much from many videos. Thank you !

[@hormonalhealthinstitute]

Huge fan of periodized training. 3 weeks building and 1 “recovery”. 3 days before the end the building building phase I always feel those over reaching symptoms. Makes for a welcome recovery week!

[@ThisMessyHappy]

I always think if you don’t feel ready for a recovery week then something’s gone wrong 😂

[@mlegrand]

Good news is I don't think I've been over training during the quarantine. Bad news is that I'm not even getting close to over training. . . 😬

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Ha ha you and me both, brother. One step forwards two steps back 🤦🏻‍♂️😤

[@JonsConsciousLife]

Same haha

[@cancertokona6298]

This is gold, its something I'm thinking a lot of at the moment with upcoming chemo trying to balance maintaining my training as best I can along with dealing with the impacts on recovery from the drugs which would amplify the fatiguing effect so building a nice source of info for things like morning rest HR to give some good baseline info to refer back to is handy. I've checked it each morning after my surgery and its taken about a week and a half to get back to what it was before, but in fairness I've been sleeping like a log 9hrs+ a night at the moment lol. Periodisation is definitely something I'm going to concentrate on. The cycles are 4 weeks and I'm hoping to program the treatment week in as rest/recov before ramping up over the next 3 weeks before clocking off again for the next cycle. Hopefully the 4 week round should be good enough to keep progression without taking too much out of me.

[@ThisMessyHappy]

I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you, buddy. I have a friend going through similar at the moment. I really hope you’re able to keep some semblance of training while you’re going through this. Also I’m glad you’re sleeping well!! That’s amazing 😊

[@Titusgute]

I needed to hear this. I will see what I can implement. But I need to learn to recover.

[@Chuck6780]

I was feeling most of these signs while battling an overuse injury and then I got sick for the first time in years. Can't say for sure that it's all connected, but I think it's unlikely to be entirely coincidental. This week, I've invested in some good heart rate monitoring equipment and I'm making sure to rest up properly. Time to halve my mileage, follow the 10% rule and live in Zone 2 until I'm ready for more. Thanks for the priceless education!

[@Reckoning2943]

Had the ludicrous idea of writing a bachelor thesis, still working 20h a week, traveling and preparing for a marathon at the same time. I‘m paying the bill atm. lol. This video helped a great deal. I‘ll be kinder towards myself the next time.

[@brandon_henry_222]

I started to run a mile every day and on day 7(yesterday) I added a morning workout of navy seal burpees. I was awake until 1am, when I am typically sleeping at 10:30-11:00pm.

[@LoadsmanJ]

So informative, thanks so much! Never would have linked mood and resting heart rate but makes so much sense!

[@alan_oz]

Great video Ben. Very informative and a reminder for me as I tend to find myself overreaching. Cheers.

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Thanks Alan. I hope it helped. I think we’re all a bit guilty of over reaching from time to time. It’s the excitement of it all! 😂

[@rob.gr.1377]

Very optimistic You are 🌟..!!!

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Ha ha I try 😊

[@joelouden6592]

I was looking back through my decades-old training logs recently and almost every time I increased mileage I got sick with a cold or flu within a week or two. Even in my youthful 20s and 30s.

[@agnieszkal.9043]

Aaaa that explained my sleeping issues 😁thanks, brilliant vid

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Thanks so much 😊 I hope it helped 🤟🏼

[@michaelhardie9193]

My Garmin watch showing my training status is "unproductive" and decrease in VO2max based on my watch brought me here. Resting HR - good, sleep - good, pace - increasing, grumpy.....always.

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Yeah I’d be careful with Garmin stats in general unless you have set them yourself manually. The zones etc tend to be waaaaaay off of garmin guesses 😂

[@michaelhardie9193]

@@ThisMessyHappy yeah I think they are not accurate. Especially since 80% of my training is in aerobic zones. I should just take that widget of my watch as it can be demotivating. Great channel

[@RTaj-ju4rk]

6:14 is me when someone asks me to study

[@RTaj-ju4rk]

yes please. This is me.

[@yiannis_christodoulou]

I Agree with this

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Thanks buddy. I know there are other signs but I thought those 5 are the most detectable 🧐

[@yiannis_christodoulou]

This Messy Happy There is but these are the main ones

[@evanlouisemadrinan233]

I'd like to hear your thoughts about my predicament I'm currently three weeks away from my second half-marathon race, and I'm a bit concerned about my training. For the past two weeks, my heart rate variability (HRV) has been in the unbalanced zone, and it dropped to the "low" zone after a long run yesterday. My plan is to start tapering my distance over the next three weeks leading up to race day. However, I'm unsure whether I should take a week off from running altogether or switch to brisk walking instead. I'm worried about losing progress if I stop running completely, but my leg muscles have been sore all week. My HM race goal is to break 2 hours. I just don't know what to do in this situation. 😅 Thank you in advance for any advice you can offer.🙏

[@MrAwseal]

Started running again on June 15th from an over a decade hiatus. Start out running a mile then 2 and the I was up to a few 5k’s a week then 10ks. I’m currently in your 6 week 1/2 marathon program and everything has been fine till I ran 12.5k on Sunday. Since them my knee has had a bit of pain and I think it’s ITBS. I did do 5k yesterday and it was good but I did take it slow. Any advice to help continue on training and avoiding a injury?

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Hi Adam, my advice would be run if the pain doesn’t go above 4/10 but any higher and stop. To help you keep running I’d advise plenty of strength and conditioning. Stretching after every run. Get yourself a grid foam roller. And learn about cross friction massage 👍🏻 good luck

[@bigflat1238]

Not sleeping for me is over drinking

[@lexington476]

Can you be tired without overtraining? I'm wondering if I'm not getting enough sleep, because I just do not really fathom I'm training enough to be over trained right now. Plus with no significant races I'm not following a training plan right now either.

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Yes definitely! Normal training fatigue is a very different beast to overtraining. I’m tired most of the time but when I get recovery weeks etc I shake that fatigue (which I wouldn’t if I was over trained) and like I said, it’s rare to genuinely overtrain but overreaching happens more regularly 👍🏻

[@bigflat1238]

Lol I love acting ability

[@ThisMessyHappy]

Well I got a B at GCSE drama so.... nearly professional 😂

[@bigflat1238]

Years ,just run a lifetime best down to 8:15 min mile for 4 including a 7 min something ,definitely going in the right direction to get marathon under 4 hrs when 60 ,still along way to go but just enjoying today ,did not feel completely fatigued at end

[@fatduck8244]

Is wheezing during intense exercise a symptom of overtraining?

[@mocroma3liesh564]

Who is gonna carry the boats and the loggsss