5 Simple Ways To Prevent Speed Wobbles

[@concrete-waves]

WEAR A HELMET! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGrcfWirqLF5nbs

[@SkaterDeeVlog]

I guess I was about 8 years old when I tried going down a hill on my plastic board, got the wobs and ate shit. I'd never encountered speed wobbles before because I'd never gone fast enough to experience them, but when the board started going crazy, it put the fear of god in me. After I picked myself up off the ground, I decided I would just simply avoid trying that again for a long, long time. It was a sensation that would stick with me for the rest of my life. 30 years later, I'm going down a hill, screaming, "STAY LOW, STAY FORWARD, STAY LOW, STAY FORWARD!" as the board started bucking. But this time, I got it under control, made it to the flat and coasted to a stop. I couldn't believe the advice I got worked, I was able to keep from wiping out. I was still pretty shaken up from the feeling, so I decided to take a victory lap by pushing back up the hill and trying again. This time, no wobble at all! I had finally conquered my biggest fear.

[@concrete-waves]

"when the board started going crazy, it put the fear of god in me" Truer words have neve been said haha. Thanks for sharing dee 😎

[@elantris-2002]

LMAO I had to laugh so loud when I read the "STAY LOW STAY FORWARD" - that's literally how I went down a very steep hill the first time (luckily I have a tendency to always watch tutorials before I do anything for the first time so I handled the speed wobble very well straight away XDD)

[@leezy707]

Bro me and my lil bro did it down a cat walk never have I ever been so scared my brother got knocked unconscious and had to go to the doctor

[@perempti]

Me my whole life: im pushing up the hill, im pushing up the hill, im pretty tired, but im pushing up the hill...

[@concrete-waves]

lol 😂

[@SkaterDeeVlog]

Skate Bush: "Be pushin' up that road, be pushin' up that hill, be pushin' up that building."

[@Mothypumpkins]

@@SkaterDeeVlogLOL

[@PossumMedic]

And if I only could I'd make a deal with God And I'd get him to swap my knees out 😭🤣

[@2MOROGARAGE]

DO NOT TIGHTEN YOUR TRUCKS FOR WOBS. A tight truck acts like a spring, it may stop you from getting wobs briefly at a certain speed, then once you cross that speed they will wobble even harder because of the built up spring tension in the bushings, and buck you onto the concrete twice as hard. All it does is install false confidence, loose trucks save lives!

[@nabranestwistypuzzler7019]

What about like mid trucks?

[@2MOROGARAGE]

@nabranestwistypuzzler7019 you mean like off brand trucks? Upgrade bushings is the best bet, if you wanna go fast get the bones hardcore bushings, if the trucks allow for double barrels then get venom or riptide barrels. Barrels or eliminaters will have the most stability if the trucks fit them

[@nabranestwistypuzzler7019]

@@2MOROGARAGE I meant like not loose or tight

[@djrealmerda]

Troubling with indy mids, just put 92a bushings

[@natancieslak184]

Since yesterday when I loosened up my trucks I finally experienced my first proper fall. Haha, it was wobbling like crazy and I done the mistake of hopping out forward and trying to out run the speed. Moments later I was skidding on my back for some meters. It was really fun. I feel more passion to skating now and I am looking forward to get to tackle this problem from happening and to control it once it does. The adrenaline was great.

[@Shventastic]

At 36 years old, I went longboarding with my son tonight. I got a little overconfident with how easy it was carving up and down the streets on my LY tugboat. I decided to bomb the hill nearby and realized i had already picked up enough speed and passed the safe bail stage. I decided to just stick it out. Then as I surpassed what I can only assume is terminal velocity, the fucking wobs crept in. There was actually enough time as I broke the sound barrier for me to try several corrections, but naw bro. I finally tried to carve out if it aaaaaand wrecked my shit in front of a neighbor's ring camera. I'm not a thin man and that was my saving grace. I landed squarely on my left love handle then rolled somersault style to a stop sitting on my ass. I think my hip is facing a different direction, but I casually walked it off like it was nothing. After all, I was with my kid and I don't want him to get the fear of hills in his head. Send bruise concealer. I look like I need dialysis.

[@concrete-waves]

Haha bro this is the greatest comment. Hope you heal up quick 🙏 “I think my hip is facing a different direction, but I casually walked it off like it was nothing” 😂

[@nabranestwistypuzzler7019]

Ok now go to the doctor & also don’t go nearly that high again and just wear pads and also go on a cut and then just get a padded shirt too

[@ellispalmer9220]

Bars

[@crickbed86]

i would LOVE an episode on speed checks/powerslides. its definitely the main thing holding me back and keeping from exploring steeper terrain and busy streets

[@concrete-waves]

Totally! I plan to make an update video of this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWXUeJWVpbGWfas

[@BlopSchlop]

This is on the topic of speed wobbles. Wear a cushioned backpack, one which had some kind of fluff inside like shopping bags or clothes or whatever. Even if you aren’t wearing pads or a helmet (which I highly recommend), just having that support will save your back from extreme injury. It absorbs a lot of shock. Recently I was riding down a hill no pads only my helmet and backpack, and I fell fast and hard. I got some nasty scrapes, but I was able to shrug it off due to the backpack absorbing so much impact. That’s my 3 cents, have a good day.

[@tinutube3858]

It's good to know, that people tend to lean back and place weight on their back foot, when they get scared. Keep that in mind when going fast.

[@concrete-waves]

Yup! Weight forward is 🔑

[@flav1102]

I'm just getting into skateboarding, knowing this kind of things will be extremely useful. Thank you so much!!! You're a life/trauma saver

[@concrete-waves]

Awesome, stoked to hear that! Welcome to skateboarding :)

[@ic9628]

I speed wobbed. Have to bail and twisted my knee. Was out for a month before I could get back on the board. Has affected my confidence big time as I’m 41 and don’t heal as well anymore.

[@concrete-waves]

Dang that's a bummer! I hope you heal up quick and get the confidence back to ride 🙏

[@lowtechleon9874]

Great explanations. In addition to plain carving It is great to "always be in a turn". What I mean is, even if you ride strait downhill always lean a little to one side. That way the center of gravity is lower and also the truck doesn't start to go left and right, because it already decided for ine side.

[@concrete-waves]

Interesting! That's a solid point leon 🔥🙌

[@lowtechleon9874]

Thanks✌️

[@theoriginalrabbithole]

2:30 Kudos for using Paris street trucks. Paris TKP trucks actually have the highest ride height at 57.15mm for accommodating larger wheels without risers, than an average TKP truck like Indy, which have ride heights of just 52mm. Big difference! This is a very informative and well presented video. Keep up the good work. 🤙

[@concrete-waves]

Great points! I never knew the exact height differences so that's awesome to know. I usually use Paris or Bear TKPs on my mini cruisers so I can get a beefier wheel. But indys for my park setup! I appreciate the kind words 🙂

[@natancieslak184]

Since yesterday when I loosened up my trucks I finally experienced my first proper fall. Haha, it was wobbling like crazy and I done the mistake of hopping out forward and trying to out run the speed. Moments later I was skidding on my back for some meters. It was really fun. I feel more passion to skating now and I am looking forward to get to tackle this problem from happening and to control it once it does. The adrenaline was great.

[@goofyfootgreg]

Weight forward is so important but feels counterintuitive for the inexperienced ✌️

[@concrete-waves]

Exactly greg 🙏

[@williamfournier3054]

You have to want to go faster

[@devin12321]

started skating about a week ago and theres alot of hills where i am this helped alot

[@Kufunninapuh]

Hey. I hate to do this again because all the advice is so good and the production value is amazing! I'm so impressed/jealous! But the instability of the TKP trucks is not from "a higher baseplate angle". The baseplate angle that is advertised by most RKP brands happen to align with the pivot angle/axis which determines how much a truck turns per lean. I wish I had a pen and paper so I could draw this but that axis is a straight line from your pivot cup to the point on your kingpin that sits between your bushings. Look at almost any TKP truck and you will notice that this angle is much lower than most RKPs while the angle from pivot to axle, which does not affect the turn to lean ratio all else being equal, is real steep. I don't know what it is that does it though because TKPs are for sure less stable by design, in my experience. One day I might understand but here is my best guess on one of the contributing factors: I don't know if you ever went from a 50 degree RKP truck to like a 45 or whatever and figured you had your bushings perfectly dialed why not just move them over? You expect them to feel more stable at speed but they feel super soft and you get instant wheelbite and eat dirt. That's (partially) because the leverage over your bushings have increased as your kingpin is more vertical. Or in the reverse extreme, imagine a 90 degree Paris truck and how you would ever get that to turn at all. And for a real world example take the carver cx which is basically an RKP truck. It has a massive angle like 60 degrees or something but it also has the kingpin almost perpendicular to the road. Meaning you have both great leverage and great turn. And it is true for most TKP trucks that the kingpin is more perpendicular to the road which might mean you have that extra leverage so even if they don't turn as sharp the may be easier turn as they require less force. Ok I'm out. Sorry for the incoherent wall of text again.

[@concrete-waves]

I really appreciate you taking your time to explain all of this. Seriously! I try to get things right but I know there's always stuff to be improved. Much love 🙏

[@Kufunninapuh]

@concrete-waves I'm glad to hear it. It's been frustrating me for years how bad manufacturers are at communicating the features of their products, sometimes describing them wrong. That has ripple effects as people regurgitate what they half remember from an old add then that becomes established as common knowledge even though it's wrong. It's tough. You get it right 99% of the time and again you explain it so well and it always looks so good. Keep up the the good work! You deserve more views 👍

[@jeffersongarrick]

Great tips! I've only had one really really bad speed wobble getting towed behind a quad with a water ski rope. I actually pulled out of it but learned a lesson. It's a feeling of absolute loss of control.

[@concrete-waves]

thanks jeff and I bet that felt so sketchy haha

[@5MASTER7894]

Today at 50 km/h a strong wobbling started, miraculously I held on

[@MattSmith14421]

This is very helpful, i used to just tighten my trucks until it wasnt able to turn anymore 😂😂

[@concrete-waves]

Stoked to hear that. And lol I used to do that too 😂

[@taylorhope4651]

Just started skating and decided to go down a hill despite hardly being able to ride at all. Got the wobbles and wiped out and damn near broke my ankle, and burned my shoulder pretty good. Scared to try again but I'll keep all this in mind lol

[@Space-Doge]

Watched this video right after wiping out on my surfskate. Thanks for the tips!

[@eBoard3R]

*I find myself really lookin forward to this style of video,* really goes to show, when creators do what they enjoy, we enjoy it too! 🤟🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤟🏽 Lovin the topic choices and edits!! I love a split setup, lower angle with harder, chunkier bushing in the back, people in esk8 like Riptide but I love Blood Orange and Venom. De-wedgin is a great option, I prefer the precision type ones as they add less height. People should try a few different angle combos, to figure out what they enjoy/prefer. Personally I tried 50/45, 45/45, 45/40... prefer 50/44, a lot of esk8 brands now use 45/45 but I love a standard 50deg front with the back 44 to 45deg. Try it all people! You might surprise yourself in what you end up enjoyin most.

[@concrete-waves]

Legend! Thanks man 😎So sick you shared all the angle combos you've tried

[@Tink-R-Toys]

Put the slower bearings and wheels on the Back hanger. Also bend knees and lower stance towards the front truck, reversing the Pivot from the rear hence tailspins, to a more Consistent position to allow for Carving Modes and such? Also traverse slaloms to balance and push forward with speed checks

[@jameslewis-eo3xz]

Smooth operator. 💯

[@concrete-waves]

🙌🔥

[@Ekaterina_Hard_Worker]

Wow. This is the best video about wobbling. Hi from Moscow.

[@Master_Thy0849]

I fell earlier today on an eboard so i must watch this now, ive been riding for years and i dont know these things

[@donutts4905]

One of my buddies went 20+ mph down a hill on his stomach. He said the wobbles almost flipped him off the board entirely. Went into a curb but he's fine. Too bad he didn't see the vid

[@concrete-waves]

Ya I've done that before haha... And sitting on my board. It can get sketchy real quick

[@GentlemanQ]

I got confident after going down a hill without issues. Decided to go to the open highway road and i almost got my azz handed to me when i experienced my first wobbles. (i jumped off the longboard, luckily the road was empty atm) Funny part is the hill wasn't even that sharp, i gotta admit though that the road wasn't perfect. I kept overrunning hardened drops of oil and asphalt splattered on the side of the road, the smoothest part of the street was in the middle but i didn't want to cause a traffic jam lol. Thnx for the enlightening

[@concrete-waves]

Oh man sounds sketch haha. Glad you're all good! Happy to hear it helped

[@open_ogen9]

Sick board!!

[@concrete-waves]

thanks i love the comet 🙂

[@thornygreenwood]

@@concrete-waves Please do a video on it!

[@sebaspepper]

Trying the shifting my weight forward on my mini cruiser

[@HWB06]

I see you got a Comet Cruiser, are you plan on doing a review on that board by any chance? Plus do you actually think that board can handle some steep hills occasionally since I mainly downhill and fast cruise around town? I want to know if the board is stable enough to handle fast speeds like my "33"Omen seaotter board?

[@concrete-waves]

Yes definitely getting to the comet vid - just wanna make sure I do it justice. Hoping to get it published in next few weeks, just dealing with a lot of rain in jersey at the moment. I've ridden it 20-25mph many times and felt comfortable. (Not sure how fast you're going). The dewedge of the back truck really helps keep it stable

[@scoon2117]

I need to get a damn longboard already

[@concrete-waves]

Yes you do haha

[@levonhowerton]

Just wiped out like crazy and cut open my cheek, hands, and pulled my knee, I needed this video yesterday

[@icantsee0]

I remember my first time getting speed wobbles so vividly. There was an intersection and a car was going through it, scared the shit outta me, was stomping my leg down so hard to slow myself. Would've been useful having these tips 😂😂

[@concrete-waves]

haha we all remember the first wobs! So sketch 🤣

[@kekhanl6875]

Speed wobbles is one of the most sketchiest feelings in the world. It's in motorcycles, sport bikes, cars, motorized bicycles, etc. speed wobbles is one, maybe even "thee" sketchiest feeling to exist.

[@allenguerrero7696]

I think i needed this video 6 yrs ago 😂

[@Cyronx11]

The last time I got speed wobbles I was carrying a bag of take out, I couldn't figure out why I wasn't stabilizing for the life of me. In the moment I just stuck my arm carrying the bag out in front of me and I was golden. Longest 5 seconds of wobble ever lmao.

[@concrete-waves]

Haha that's awesome you were able to fix it. Legit the worst feeling 🤣

[@tonytober]

Split. Bushing. Setup. I ride 45-55km/h (~34MPH?) daily for work commute on an esk8. Never speed wobbled anymore.

[@The4thshodow]

i wobbled on a longboard once. ended up being broken pivot cups. wouldnt have known without taking it apart to have a look.

[@concrete-waves]

Ya worn out pivot cups could do it!

[@AdventuresInSkateboarding]

Solid video. The community needs more of this. Stay Rad

[@concrete-waves]

thanks man, i appreciate that 🙏

[@Odud_rg]

I have huge scar on knee due to speed wobbles I hurt same spot twice during last summer, it was awful

[@concrete-waves]

Danggg, yeah we all got those speed wobble scars haha

[@bonemonke1296]

have mine in my asshole ,teared a new one lol my mom was like yo girl must've pegged you this can't be a skate accident XD

[@karlooo79]

Well, all is great, however what to do in a high speed? Last time went down a small downhill and went from slow to high speed man, and my board started wobbling luckily managed to safely jump of side (from of board) but man that was scary. Normally i get off the board when will be gaining high speed however never had to experience in really high speed loool….

[@malachiteofmethuselah9713]

Sorry bud, but you missed the key factors completely. Speed wobbles is a function of your ankle muscles overcorrecting. Time spent pumping a board will build the muscles needed for stronger carves and better stability. That being said... when wobbles start, CARVE. Going into a side to side carve places pressure on a single side, and forcefully transitions to the other side, much like huge wobbles, instead of small fast wobles. You may also want to look at the Landyatchz Evo longboard. It does not wobble, because the front and rear truck do not occilate at the same rate. Many, many dedicated downhill longboarders run differnt truck angles, and bushing setups in the front vs the the rear. This not only adds stability by dampening the rear truck, causing the board to turn more like a car, but also reduces the likelyhood of runaway occilations because of the differnt harmonic rates.

[@christophernatonski6332]

Maybe you should make the effort to make a nicely produced KZbin video then.

[@Busy_on_bottom]

I'm not a skateboarder but it's funny to read this. It's the exact same approach that beginners can use to get out of an oscillation in paragliding. You commit to a turn to override the back and forth overcorrections.

[@glennsak]

Comet Cruiser for the win!

[@concrete-waves]

the best! 😎

[@gaszt]

Thank u

[@Elnovato27]

thank homie you save my legs

[@jontuell5338]

Good vid

[@Hayden_larence]

Number one truck i dont recommend riding with is sidewinders, absolutely horrible trying to go down on any set

[@0motig0]

Yea the first time is the best when you get speed wobble. I remember. Dingy and a little hill... ohhh the feeling when you fly than sliding in the concret. But hey turned out the pepoles are nice! I mean when its happened only 5 peopel watched this and evry one asked: are you okey? So yea. Also WEAR A HELMET! This can help you too to survive.

[@concrete-waves]

People are indeed nice! Great point though... I made a pinned comment about wearing a helmet 🙏

[@likeSK8]

20 to 30 inch wheel base ?! 🤔 that’s a BIG board 😳

[@concrete-waves]

haha yup - shredding tom sims type setups over here 😂

[@likeSK8]

@@concrete-waves nice 🏄🏻‍♂️

[@thexskullbye3193]

speed wobble up there with wiskey throttle

[@franzmarley]

Dude! That video the weight distribution, that is what I'm going to show my kid. Then he'd think it's natural that if he gets wobbles (he's 11 and just started with a longboard, haven't experienced any wobbles) he's going to think "ah, I must have had my weight too far back". No need to even talk about wobbles as a thing

[@kristiecoyle8225]

Just broke my collar bone and elbow from speed wobbles :-(

[@concrete-waves]

Oh no! That's a major bummer. Hope you heal up quick 🙏

[@vorpalblades]

Don't mess with this mosher...

[@TokyoNightGirlLofi]

Wow💜💜💛💛💛💛💛

[@tink6225]

Kate Bush would be proud

[@FélixColón-f2n]

Please Gentleman communicate with Me as soon as possible. I have a New Idea for stopping the Long Board Skateboard and it is not Invented yet.

[@sepd1110]

Who’s here right after eating shit?

[@camden2664]

Dude I legit ate shit twice today once on a pebbly road got road rash on my hands and hip. Second time When I was going home decided to try and go down this hill kinda safely. Nope passed about 15 mph got the wobbles and ate shit hands got dirtier and started bleeding and my knees are pretty bad too. Will now walk down that hill from now on learned my lesson

[@sepd1110]

@@camden2664 yeah… pebbly roads are a skater’s worst enemy, unless u have some big ol soft wheels ur pretty much fucked, also, try getting progressively lower to avoids wobbles, and attack the hill until u start losing speed naturally and its safe to bail or to even just brake again, from falls we learn so its not that bad