5 Things I Hate About My Fiesta ST

[@novahdgames1779]

Never have I ever heard “hate” and “fiesta” in the same sentence 😂

[@JoshuaRGraves]

Awesome car bud, I’ve had my Mk6 ST for over a year now. It’s the rare silver with blue stripes example. Got a full exhaust and foam air filter. Awesome sound :D

[@Burkskurk]

Got a beauty of an St (a 2006) in June of this year (2019), had done under 60000 miles and I used your guide on what to look out for (Thanks a bunch!). Mine is left hand steered so it actually has a footrest which is great since I'm 6,2' (189 cm) and usually have a great number of strange problems regarding driving positions, I have none with the st strangely enough! I get exactly 7 Liters/100 km (40 mpg (uk gallon) on long journeys so no real complaints for me in that regard. What does bother me is the lack of an armrest as you pointed out, the turning circle is awful (it makes this tiny car a bit of a chore to park) and the wind-noice above 60 mph is on the irritating end (was expecting this though). A previous owner had it lowered which makes roundabouts even more fun ( the whole driving experience is one of the best I've had, especially on twisty b-roads) but potholes almost kills you and the car. Love the car and thanks a lot for clearing stuff up like the steering pump noice, the weird powersteering fluid resevoir location and other things that made me confident in buying probably the nicest st 150 in Sweden! Cheers!

[@awestruck9075]

Totally agree, my other complaint is the accelerator pedal is located too far left and is too high, as you can't heal and toe during braking.

[@Neo_Rain146]

I own a 2008 1.6 Ghia and the power steering pump also makes that noise. Thanks for clarifying it isnt broken because i also assumed it was.

[@jaymono6498]

Yeah they're a bit noisy but not broken! You can get a power steering reservoir relocation kit so the power steering fluid has a better chance to cool down and not break the pump! I've got a video on my channel of how to install them :)

[@OmarHussainX2021]

I have a Ford Fiesta Zetec 2008 and mine use to make that noise when doing a full lock. It turned out that my power steering pump was defective because my car would shake so bad, when i was doing a full lock. Since i had a new pump installed, it makes very little noise now and the car doesn't shake.

[@shelf9876]

I've got a red one on a 05 plate. It grinds into reverse. Clips on seat broke. Back end very slidey in damp conditions but still like it with these flaws

[@robertfreund7525]

Car need love. For me my Ford is like my girl, need's proper maintenance and she is gona show you love. Mk 6 ST is best ST ever made, for me. That girl just need love and you will see that love back. Wish you lot's miles with that bauty.

[@jaymono6498]

I'm gonna treat mine to a service and some new bits soon, Good luck with yours bud!

[@fookayou8607]

All fords love a service every 6mths eg oil, filters, sparks and I recently treated mine to a coil pack and leads and cleaned all sensors, new brakes and discs and track rod arms, she feels so good on the road now 🤗

[@harry4410]

Love the channel. Looking to buy a MK6 ST very soon. I've researched what to look out for but what in your opinion as a owner, is worth noting when on the hunt for one? Cheers.

[@jaymono6498]

Thanks! I'd say thing to be careful is listen for noises on the bottom end of the engine, apparently the camshaft doest handle slipping well and can break often, I'd walk away from a sale if you hear any bottom end knocking on the engine. I've seen lots of MK6 ST being sold as spares and repairs because of this. If its already lowered check that the drop links don't rub on anything as I've heard that can be an issue and can cause a knocking sound. Also be wary of their idling issues, initially when you pull off the revs will drop a fair amount and on some cars it will very occasionally stall, mine never has stalled though. If you're able to check for air leaks then do as apparently the stock hoses aren't the best on these! In my experience the only issues I've had are: Front wheel bearing failed, boot gas struts broke so the boot doesn't hold itself up and the idle issue which was present when I purchased the car. I'd still recommend them though, very nippy car and are very good in the corners on B roads aha!

[@harry4410]

JayMono Awesome. Thanks for the advice. I’m looking for one with preferably lower mileage and decent service history so it’s in good shape mechanically when I get it. I’ll keep and ear out for the engine knocking cheers! Yeah they do look like a load of fun aha

[@brucetseng170]

Noise steering pump same problem here I already bought got a new one

[@JDNSAUDIS]

I have a 1.4 zetec and I agree with you 100% the power steering pumps must be a common issue because mines bad too

[@avrilcadabra]

No you were right, that is not what the power steering pump is meant to sound like. Poor things been sucking in burnt fluid for 12 years. First mod for these should be a power steering cooler.

[@jaymono6498]

Avrilcadabra thought so.. I’m doing the PAS relocation mod soon, might install a cooler if it’s still cooking the fluid after than

[@joelinden1579]

How could you hate anything about the fiesta st, absolutely brilliant car, I prefer them to the new ones

[@jaymono6498]

They're still awesome cars! :)

[@zodiotekgaming]

Awesome pocket rocket there mate, do you still have it? I'm very very tempted to have one myself and mod it with an identical supercharger and more good bits! Just a weekend run around car and for the track sometimes!

[@jaymono6498]

I've still got it! I've heard that when these are supercharges that on another level (if the gearbox holds out!) Definitely worth doing if you've got the cash for a project car!

[@jonnyF06757]

Hi pal, nice Fez you have done some nice mods! I've got a full Toyo sports decat including manifold and it's unbelievably loud on motorway haha. Just a quick one, I noticed your steering looks really light, when I'm still and turn the steering the wheel gets so hard to turn. I've changed the fluid twice and it's till the same. Can you recommend a fix? Maybe new PAS pump?

[@jaymono6498]

Jonathan flynn thanks! Mines got a Scorpian Sports catback so it’s not silly loud, tempted go the de-cat route though. The MK6 ST PAS is located in a silly position, right next to the engine which basically cooks the fluid as it doesn’t have a chance to cool down. I’d suggest doing what I’m doing and buy a PAS relocation kit. It relocated the power steering reservoir next to the battery and runs the fluid lines to cooler sides of the engine. I might have a guide up soon how to do it, just gotta buy the parts and assess whether it’s something I’m able to do myself as I’m not a mechanic! Apparently cooked fluid can wreck the pump so it may have potentially cause some damage. Is your fluid still got some colour or is it black after each change?

[@jonnyF06757]

JayMono the fluid looks black put when you dip a bit of kitchen towel in the towel goes dark red. Also if you do a fair amount of motorway miles I'd recommend not going de-cat because it's really bad. Knocking round town it's great but I'm gonna get the high flow cat back because the smell off petrol when you sat still with the fans on is slightly unnerving haha. Sadly I've been considering sell the fez as I'm fed up with its bad parts but really don't want to part with the cash for a new car so I'm watching your videos for inspiration haha

[@jaymono6498]

Jonathan flynn what I’ve heard is that when it turns black it’s basically been cooked by the engine heat - people have said it basically needs to have its colour or it’s bad fluid. Like I said I’m not a mechanic but my research has come to that, mine considerably black too, that’s why I’m moving the whole pump at some point. My commute is 40 minutes a day blasting down B roads... no wonder I get 27MPG aha! Cheers for the de-cat advice though, was only thinking of a de-cat as I’m attempting to get it running 200BHP by the end of the year and the sports cat might be a little bit too restrictive! As for MK6 ST inspiration I’ve got a few good videos coming up, a few things that I haven’t seen done on one before... annoyingly I’ve been waiting on all the parts to be delivered so I haven’t been able to make a video this week. I was on and off about selling and upgrading, but I’ve decided to stick with and just spend LOTS of money on her aha!

[@jonnyF06757]

JayMono yeah I'll definitely look into getting either the PAS relocation kit or cooling kit if I'm keeping the car ( probably will) from what I've read on the forums the sports cat isn't actually that bad for restriction but if you have the money get both so you can get a good idea on which is for you because I feel you will like the de-cat but like me you won't think the advantages out weigh the disadvantages. Thanks for getting back to me and keep up your vids pal I'm definitely gonna sub!

[@jonnyF06757]

Yay I was your 200th sub haha

[@OmarHussainX2021]

I wish this car had a foot rest near the clutch as driving it for long periods can get tiring. Also, when I'm not driving mine does that weird idle thing where the car revs it self when not accelerating!

[@tracyrichards71]

Agree with all . Mite have added the reverse gear crunch but have found mine doesn't do it if I put it in third before putting it into reverse .definately need a a 6th gear tho

[@jaymono6498]

Tracy Richards yeah mine crunches a fair bit when I put it into reverse, I should have added that in the honourable mentions!

[@tracyrichards71]

Try putting it into third before reverse pretty much eliminates it

[@acutefox8636]

Love my mk6 ST, but I 100% agree with your list! As for a next car I have a few in mind myself including civic type R, clio renaultsport 197 or maybe a mk2 focus ST

[@jaymono6498]

I was looking at a EP3 Civic Type R, a Focus ST is VERY tempting but I'm thinking maybe a Audi S3 MK2, they're literally double the house power with a remap and 4 wheel drive & about the same MPG as I get in my ST!

[@CherryGS]

No footrest... that's what you get for driving on the wrong side :P But in all seriousnes: that's a thing i've never thought about, als in LHD-cars theres always the footrest on the wheelwell. Is there really enough space to fit a footrest next to the clutchpedal and do RHD-cars normally have one?

[@jamesbishop1161]

Had my 2008 ST from Jan 2009 until July 2016 and I still miss it, had its flaws but the handling and acceleration were great! Had it in red like yours but with white stripes down the doors

[@jaymono6498]

They do have a few flaws but don't all cars! the handing on these are definitely their best part!

[@MasterKozio]

It's actually interesting re-watching this vid after living with an ST150 for about half an year now. Used to watch your vids before buying the car to help me decide if i should get it and in the end it was definitely worth it. I'm a pretty tall guy(196cm.) so wanting to go for a small car is kind of unorthodox but for urban driving it's the best thing to be fair. The fiesta, however, proved to be more than fitting for a bug guy. I tried absolutely everything on the market(in my budged ofc. which meant only things about up until 2008) and only this and the fiat punto(post 2006) managed to fit me comfortably. Needless to say the ST was the better pick in terms of power and fun in general. About your list some things may not be the same for our mainland Europe models as: No 5. The steering and pedals being on the other side means there is actually more space next to the clutch so there is a foot rest there. Only thing is it's kinda hard to stick my foot on it around the clutch when I'm wearing size 48 shoes(UK12.5). Anyone with a smaller shoe size shouldn't have an issue but even I have a workaround by sliding it a bit from the front. No 4. I don't think anyone got this car for the fuel efficiency but I think it's pretty OK for a 2L engine. I manage from around 9.5 -10.5l./100 urban(27-30MPG) and trust me I like to hit the gas on every chance I get. On the roads i manage from 7-9l./100 ( 31-40 MPG) depending on what mood I am for pushing the car. IMO that's pretty nice. No 3. Haven't got this issue. Probably related to the wheel being on the other side. No 2. Absolutely agree. Rarely actually need a sixth but boy, would that help motorway travel and fuel economy on the rare occasion that I need it. No 1. I swear i used to park the C-max that I used to drive before this about 10 times easier because of this. And trust me that is a way-bigger car. Hope this helps someone watching this thinking about buying the car outside of the UK So that done, here's my list. Do not really hate any of em but more like things that could have been better: 5 - Not being able to pop the boot while the engine is running. Actually annoying when I(or someone else) have to make a quick unload. 4 - How easy the seat tilt handles(for retracting the seat to get to the back seats) seem to break. From the first time you touch these you just notice how fragile they feel and you just don't want to use much force at all. Recently a friend of mine seemed to not notice that once and there went the passenger seat handle after a little harder pull. New ones from ford are pretty pricey for a piece of plastic but luckily there are lots of choices on e-bay and I managed to get a pair for less than 10 quid + delivery. 3 - Since I have the full leather seats and summers are pretty hot here in Bulgaria, often hitting 35C and above in my city, you can only imagine how hot it is before the air conditioning manages to cool you and the car off. I do love the way the seats feel so that's more of a love-hate relationship. Winter's no issue as I do like the cold and for passengers that don't there's always seat heating. 2 - The steering. Amazing on turns and bends but oh man, I'm still getting used to parking this car. Feels bad when you could fit a way-bigger car more easily in urban parking and some tight spots that should fit the car are near-impossible to get into. Even if you do it takes like double the maneuvers it should a car of this size. 1 - The lack of aftermarket(even stock) goods at this point in time. Yes, this might be subjective and a little weird number one spot but as it is a 15 year old car many of the things that used to be offered for the vehicle when new are now gone or near-impossible to find at least from my part of the world and living on a different life standard deliveries do make a difference in cash. Some examples: Mountune or other similar tuning kits - gone mostly(especially the Mountune). Even if not gone most tuning company ready tunes are offered in the UK. Found a nice SWR kit that I want to get for the car in the future and gonna take an exhaust system as those are still available so there are options but they are limited. Still should be able to get the car to 190 so that's nice. Don't want more than that to be honest anyway. Tried searching for a nice fin diffuser i saw online - gone(or really hard to find at least). A soft pipe on my stock air intake system is split on one part - can't find a new one anywhere after checking with 3 shops that even checked warehouses in EU. Car runs normally as some tape does the job but gonna replace it with a sport intake anyway just for better sound. Another example is some parts for the car like emblems, the radiator grill are out of stock everywhere I check and mine have to be changed tbh. Even if not out of stock 40-50 quid for an emblem is just.. bleh. Honorable mention: How hard it is to take anything off this car. From the headlights and stoplights to the Engine( take reaching the PCV hose for example). Especially things around the engine being hard to reach does rack up more costs when servicing the car. Don't own a garage and I'm not yet tech savvy enough to DIY my car. Could be a good thing doe. Hey, nobody will be stealing my headlights anytime soon. Or anything on the car for that matter. In summary it's a nice car even for tall people as it is pretty spacious. Love how the NA engine feels compared to turboed cars so that's why i love this one. Limited for tuning but you can get it up to 190-200HP pretty easy. + if you have money and want to go all in superchargers are a thing. Like every car it has it's issues, bad and good parts. Fkin love it doe. For a next car definitely a MK2 focus ST. Or if I'm somehow rich by that point a MK2 RS but I doubt it. Could also get another low-mileage FiST and transfer the potential tunes to it. Choices, choices... Gonna stick with this one for at least a couple of years though.

[@shelg6082]

Try maxton designs or trc for a rear desfuser bro

[@kokobeliq]

Hey,do you still have the car? :D I've been driving mine for the past 6 months and it's a pain on most bulgarian roads, i feel like I'm on a trampoline the way the car bounces over road imperfections. Also, how have running costs been for you, how often do you change fluids?

[@MasterKozio]

@@kokobeliq Hi! No, unfortunately I crashed the car in January after not paying attention to a roundabout (used to go for time attacks on some mountain roads a lot but the funny thing is I crashed it when not driving dangerously at all). Now I drive a Peugeot 407 coupe as I wanted a GT car. Honestly the rough ride on the Fiesta was the thing I liked most about it. You can feel everything on the road with the ESP off and with the direct go-kart-like steering it was an absolute joy to drive. It does suffer on longer journeys and highways due to the shorter 5 gears. I used to drive it on a highway with about 100-110 km/h and averaged about 7-7.5 l/100. In the city anywhere from 9 to 14 l/100 depends on how you treat the throttle :d (based in Plovdiv). I used to do a full oil and fluid change every 10000km with Castrol which the car liked a lot. I miss the little thing but shit happens. Good thing the Peugeot has a sport mode for the suspension so I can sort of remind myself what it was to drive the fiesta on twisty roads. The V6 is lovely doe. Oh and if you don't have LPG on the ST150, definitely put one on the spare tire. Saves a lot of cash in the current fuel situation.

[@JegHadderSarah]

fun fact.. a left hand drive ST150 have the footrest you are talking about 👍

[@simonhackley3319]

My power steering on my 05 St was noisey like that top it up noise goes. Mine drinks through it though.. looks mint though mate

[@jaymono6498]

Simon Hackley I’m gonna flush it and refill it up soon, gonna be doing a PAS relocate and hopefully move it to a cooler side of the engine bay - heard lots of good things about doing that

[@CdotPoppy]

Have you changed your pas fluid?? Cherry red or black sludge...? Just got 365miles to empty on my dash. I bet the Mk8 ST is dream to drive! £14 armrest.. I just use the handbrake too much.. Either focus st or Audi S5

[@jaymono6498]

Im gonna be changing it either this weekend or next, I really like the look of the A5 I just think I want something a bit smaller in size

[@Ben-jm8hi]

Nice car I’ve got a mk7.5 fiesta ST but the mk6 do look nice once modified

[@jaymono6498]

Ben Moore I like the look of the MK6 & Mk7, not too sure which one I like more though!

[@zaink7037]

Nice to see a mk6 fiesta owner. I have a mk6.5 fiesta zetec s 1.6 TDCi and its great. One other thing which I'm sure is common on other engines is the crunch in reverse gear. I've found with me the crunch happens if I quickly change into reverse. Doesn't happen if I take my time changing into reverse. I also hate the seat tilt handles as those are prone to breaking.

[@jaymono6498]

Yeah, I've got the crunch in reverse! Its because the reverse gear doesn't have a synchro to ease it into the gear. If I put it into 3rd gear then into reverse I never get the crunch. The tilt handles are a pain, seen loads of them snap, luckily mine are still working and not broken :)

[@zaink7037]

JayMono would you say STs are reliable? I don't think I can keep my diesel for over the next 2 years as sadiq Khan is planning on putting a charge on diesel cars before 2015 in 2021 in the whole of London. Most petrols made after 2005 are exempt from the charge. Might look at a zetec s petrol or ST or just get a BMW E90 320i or 325i

[@jaymono6498]

If they're looked after they can be pretty reliable, however the ST's do have a pretty hard life being bash about around B roads as thats what they're made for, it can be hard to find a good example, mines fairly low milage, full service history, been well looked after, driven hard but given everything it needs to be driven how it is - just gets crappy MPG really. I've had mine 8 months, everything thats gone wrong with it in then 8 months has been my fault or the previous owners mishaps causing me issues later along the line. Deffo worth ditching any diesels before that charge comes in, just gonna be silly expensive to run.. BMW are a good shout, I always wanted one but I think if I upgrade next It will be either an Audi S3 or a Sliva S15... in a few years aha

[@zaink7037]

@@jaymono6498 I have a question. Is it normal of STs to have idling issues? I hear people say that the revs bounce between 500 to 1500 when you dip the clutch

[@jaymono6498]

Zain K yeah, everyone’s ST has that issue, sometimes it bad enough to stall, luckily mines not too bad!

[@varski76]

Good points that I can agree. And there is foot rest in my ST but I have left side steering. Rocking full Miltek and dreamscience remap and been loving the car the whole 5 years I have had it. It has its quirks but its damn good car.

[@jaymono6498]

Varski The Chief ahhh maybe the left hand drives came with a footrest then. I haven’t seen any right hand drives with one! I’m probably gonna go the dream science route pretty soon!

[@Timtam99]

Hey mate where did you get your front badge? I'd love to get one on mine they look sick as!

[@jaymono6498]

I got them from a company called Motor Modz, they're gel and sit over the top on the standard ones

[@fahimali2707]

I have a Ford Fusion 2004 tdci ( a bigger fiesta ) 1.4 and I must say it’s a great car classed as a mpv. The bad thing is it has a diesel smell inside the interior when driving? I don’t know if I need a new exhaust pipe or something please help me the car came with a whole year MOT ?

[@jaymono6498]

I've had a few cars with an exhaust leaks, and they stunk of fuel all the time, that could potentially be the issue!

[@warrock299]

The gearbox is short so what do you expect, i do 7.5 l 100km when drive normal

[@milosrog]

There is no place to rest your left foot because steering wheel is on the right side. With steering wheel on the left side (european and the most markets) you have a place to put your left leg for rest

[@jaymono6498]

Yeah it sucks! a lot of right hand cars in the UK have a foot rest but these don't!

[@cxreyzs5636]

Could just take it to 200bhp NA or Supercharge/turbocharge it 280bhp+? I'm currently in the process of getting my TDCI ZS to 200bhp.

[@rs9553]

All mk6 fiesta but the sporty ST have a cooling pipe on the PAS return line. On the ST the PAS tank is directly plugged to the pump and also very small. As a result the fluid soak heat and air and can boil. This causes the noise and can ruin pump. Solution is to relocate the tank or add a cooling pipe. Or for track use, do both.

[@jaymono6498]

R S I was think about getting a PAS relocation kit. Are they difficult to do? The ones I’ve seen mount it of the battery mount ad run the lines to the battery, is it just a case of disconnecting the lines and running them to the new PS location?

[@rs9553]

@@jaymono6498 you disconnect the low pressure hose (the Rubber one on top of the pas tank), you remove the PAS tank. You put an adapter where the the PAS tank directly connects to the pump. At this point, you plug hoses. One on the PAS pump adapter, and the other on the genuine low pressure hose. And between the 2, you plug a the New pas Tank. An usual location is close to the battery. To refill pas fluid, front wheels car jacked up. Add fluid. Start the engine, keep adding. Then turn steering wheel left to right and the oposite direction and keep adding fluid until its filled. If you dont lift front during fill operartion you will stress too much the whole PAS circuit without enough oil.

[@jaymono6498]

R S that actually doesn’t sound too difficult, might attempt it after I’ve sorted the idle issue. Reckon it’s worth changing them pump down there whilst its all out?

[@rs9553]

@@jaymono6498 the pump is loud by design, nothing to worry about. Relocating the PAS tank is mandatory if you race track, else you can live with the stock one if you live in à cold country. I would do this in the meantime i dismantle the front of the car to remove the intake manifold for better access. Good luck

[@jaymono6498]

R S cheers for all the help, will definitely think about changing it just so it’s not cooling the fluid all the time!

[@bboyzagy]

What's your opinion on the road noise inside one of these? Once I hit highway speeds, I feel like I need to turn up everything for about 40% to be comfortable, meaning the radio, speaking volume, etc... Any sound insulation tips?

[@jaymono6498]

bboyzagy not too bad road noise whilst driving, I hear my exhaust more than anything! I don’t know too much about sound insulation in cars other than it’s probably silly expensive - my answer is the same as yours, turn the music up!

[@bboyzagy]

@@jaymono6498 Understandable. I get a lot of wind noise and tire noise. Sound insulation foils, such as Dynamat, are expensive wherever you look. In my country, people like to McGyver things, so they use industrial rubber, glued on the metal parts of the doors and floor to dampen the low-end vibrations, and felt on the plastic parts to dampen the high-end vibrations. I'm gonna try that with the doors first, as they're the easiest to get to. I'll update you as things fold out.

[@jaymono6498]

bboyzagy hmm that’s strange, you sure someone didn’t track yours before you had it and remove all the insulation under the carpet & then just replaced the carpet for sale? That sounds like a cheaper more fun method, keep me updated on how it goes!

[@rs9553]

dodgy idle probably caused by broken PCV hose letting enter unmetered air into the engine. This hose is prone to break and is a pain in the ass to replace because it's BEHIND the intake manifold.

[@jaymono6498]

R S I’ve got a replacement PCV valve and hose so that’s what I’ll be changing next! Just know it’s gonna be effort getting the manifold off!

[@rs9553]

@@jaymono6498 i swaped my engine, cause the original one broke a Rod. First time i did such a thing, but i succed. Unfortunately the replacement engine i installed smoke like hell at full throttle. I have to dismantle everyrhing again to check if the PCV is stuck opened. I Will probably relocate the valve to ease maintenance and use better hose.

[@rs9553]

@@jaymono6498 also, you can get an obd2 device and monitor fuel trims. Very useful to diagnose if you have a vacuum leak. A bit complex to get used to, but when you are used to, you can diagnose without dismantling.

[@jaymono6498]

R S that’s pretty nuts just changing the engine, something I want to do at some point but not on this car! I think the OBD reader would be cool to see what’s going on, but for now I’m just gonna replace the hose and hope that works!

[@rs9553]

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[@adam6739]

Had one of these for a few weeks now and get about 45-50 mpg on the motorway and about 30 round town not to bad tbf

[@jaymono6498]

Thats pretty good MPG!

[@Lukescomment]

Tryna decide if i should buy this model or the new shape with zetech

[@jaymono6498]

Luke it all depends around budget really, you can pick up a good MK6 ST for not too much these days. Have considered the newer ST? They’re a lot more tuneable and come out the factory with more power as standard depends if that’s what you’re after in a car or not though!

[@Lukescomment]

@@jaymono6498 Yeah either a 2007 ST or a 2010 Fiesta 1.6 zetec 5 sped manual.In New Zealand they both cost about 7k with around 80ks on the clock.I cant afford a MK6 ST they still cost 20k over here,a used one.Yeah nah that 2007 ST will go way harder than the zetec you reckon?Im just gonna deck it out with Car audio,You can buy custom facia for custom stereo.Im not too fussed about performance but i might do exhaust and intake.Which one will sound better??the ST or the Zetec .ST aye.Wish i could afford a mk6 ST.

[@Lukescomment]

im leaning towards buying the newer model

[@jaymono6498]

@@Lukescomment So are the older MK6 ST more expensive than the new Zetecs over there? thats crazy! And Yeah I definitely think the ST will be better than the Zetec, both pretty good though, just depends what you wanna get one out the car, if it was me I'd definitely go for the ST, but if your just after changing out the stereo and stuff the Zetec might be a better route and might be a bit cheaper. An exhaust will definitely make it sound better but an intake does also give it a nice sound when its pulling the air in, id say do both :)

[@scotty5403]

Your idle issue will be the crank case breather pipe, they split on every mk6 ST

[@jaymono6498]

Scott Hurman I’ve had someone suggest this. Whoever had my ST before has put a filter looking thing where the pipe should be. Looking at replacing it soon. Apparently it has a line which runs to the air intake?

[@dgill01702]

That’s why I got the Zetec s TDCi looks like an ST they come with same bumpers etc. mine does 65mpg and I have pic to prove this, But to be fair that’s driving no higher than 50 mph all week, on a normal run all week boosting, flooring it etc I’ll average 55-61 mpg 👍

[@jaymono6498]

Thats so much better MPG than any ST that I've seen!

[@Dermiezz]

Can you say what mods you’ve got it looks mad! I’ve got a stock blue one and I’d like to do a blue n black colour-way

[@jaymono6498]

Dermiez Thanks! Here’s a list of the outside visual mods: - 17 Inch OZ super light 17x7JJ alloys - Stainless steel scorpion sports cat exhaust - cut in bonnet vents - Pressed Metal number plates - Smoked Indicators - Gel Vinyl wing badges - Red ford badges - Team Heko wind deflectors - Tinted windows - Rear wiper delete - TRC Front splitter - DRL R8 headlights - CEUK Halo LED fog lights - LED number plate bulbs I still need to do a introduction/review of the car so I’ll post a full list of everything done to the car when I make that video!

[@Dermiezz]

Cheers

[@jbarrett4205]

Cams and valve springs, inlet manifold and bigger throttle body 🤷‍♂️

[@Foskkii]

The facelift does come with a foot rest actually. But I agree with everything else. Not having 6th gear is the most annoying thing in this car. Mine idles bad only on cold starts. Drops below 800rpm but it's fine after it gets warm, still didn't find whats the issue with it (tried cleaning TB aswell, didn't help). I guess it has to do with some sensor. Anyway nice videos, clean looking ST :) keep it up!

[@jaymono6498]

I’ve got another idea of what to try next to fix the idle issue, a subscriber has mentioned something and I’m feeing hopeful. Thanks for the nice words about the ST,. Got different wheels in the newer videos so a lightly different look now :)

[@Foskkii]

@@jaymono6498 is it the thing with the vacuum line on the intake? I might give it a try aswell. Im waiting for my ramair kit. Im still on oem airbox lol, but I do have a custom backbox and a decat. Sounds awesome, no droaning! :)

[@jaymono6498]

cloudburst yeah apparently there’s a line that goes from the camshaft cover to the air intake which can cause a vacuum leak, gonna look into it very soon, mines not as bad now but it’s literally the only thing wrong/annoying with the car! It’s such a minor issue but annoys me aha!

[@crazyhotrot]

My own top 3 thing I hate about the ST is definitely 3. gas mileage (also getting what you're getting, but I drive cities etc) 2. bonnet full of spots due to the light paint and pebbles hitting it 1. the steering angle. omg is it horrible.. lmao one thing that's kinda eh is the low torque in the low revs. it only comes alive at about 2500 or 3000

[@jaymono6498]

I agree with all of these!!

[@rauleeto409]

lol i thought there was something wrong with my steering too until i watched this

[@Brandon.Reacts]

I average around 43 on motorway and 34 round town. It’s a 2008. And yeah the steering pump is annoying 😂 no where near as loud as that tho, may wanna upgrade that fluid

[@jaymono6498]

Brandon Cook that’s goooood MPG! And yeah I’ve changed the fluid now and relocated the reservoir

[@Brandon.Reacts]

@@jaymono6498 Nice! Getting a milltek decat delivered at the weekend ;D you go fordfest at santapod?

[@jaymono6498]

Brandon Cook nice! You putting it on this weekend? I gotta change my thermostat this weekend as my ST is running cold :( And I didn’t no, I’ll probably go in 2019 though!

[@Brandon.Reacts]

@@jaymono6498 yeah man that's what I mean, cfs 2019 in june. and ah peak, gl. hopefully, but pretty busy atm haha

[@jaymono6498]

Brandon Cook ahh sorry I though you meant this years 😂 yeah, I’ll probably end up going next year, you going?

[@pawel9293]

25-27mpg that’s great bros focus st stage 2 remap gets between 7.4 to 18mpg

[@jaymono6498]

Thats low! aha

[@LewisHDGamer10]

I have a Fiesta Zetec S 2007 and get 30 to the gallon, car has cost too much problems and i hate it because I have spent more than half of what I paid for it in a garage I bought my car for a first and cause I wanted a car ASAP, I live in a quiet area so there was nothing but definitely not a first car I have same reasons as you to hate about the wee fiesta

[@jaymono6498]

Sounds like you bought a lemon! That’s unfortunate as some of these cars are pretty good first cars! You still having issues with it now?

[@lukesmith3253]

I got the fiesta st-line when i first passed had it for a year and abit then for my 19th i got the mrk 8 fiesta st-3 nothing i hate at all got sunroom place to rest ya foot at side of clutch its mint.Only down side is insurence is a bomb but worth every penni

[@jaymono6498]

Sounds like a really nice car! Do like the look of the newer Fiestas :) I bet insurance is looaaaads, seen a fair few of the Mk7 get stolen so insurance companies are asking for a fair amount of pennies

[@dgill01702]

After an ST I’d go for Audi S3

[@Bawbagz]

I get about 31-32 MPG, combined. With you on the clutch foot rest, I absolutely hate not having one. As for 6th gear I agree to. However I don't think these cars were designed in mind for long journeys? Not sure but 5th gear is fun. All mine has is a Ramair induction (exhaust to happen later this year) don't think mine drones? Doesn't sound half bad with that filter at all! Nice car though mate. MK6 ahoy!!

[@jaymono6498]

I think around 30-35 MPG seems about average for these cars, depending on how they’re driven. Yeah I definitely don’t think they thought about long journeys in these cars, and to be fair I don’t really drive it on long journeys much! I’ve got a RAMAIR induction kit too plus a scorpion sports cat back exhaust, I think it’s probably my exhaust system just being generally louder when sitting at 3-4K in 5th on the motorways so it’s a little bit droney. It’s not as droney as my Golf though!

[@Bawbagz]

JayMono these are cracking cars and personally I think the good outweighs the bad? Think we'll find with most cars bad things. In my opinion the perfect car just doesn't exist...

[@jaymono6498]

Daryl Giddings the goods definitely outweigh the bad with this car. I’m gonna be doing a 5 things I love about the ST video soon!

[@ethanmxgaming65]

I Have the Same Problems

[@jamie123b]

I get 33.3mpg average from my ST150

[@jaymono6498]

Mines getting 35.5 after sorting a few bits on it!

[@CJ-vb5wf]

Trade up for mk7 st 👌 steering is amazing , 6 speed, not bad on fuel for a boosted car 😋 comes with arm rest and wicked seats , also car can unlock while keys in ya pocket by button on handles or button on boot and is also a 3 button fob 😜 , thing I hate about my mk7 st is the clocks , there fitted with stretch aux belt and the rear diffuser doesn't suit 🤣🤣🤣

[@jaymono6498]

I've got a MK7 as a daily now, just not the ST!

[@g3ryBooMBanG]

i own a 1.6 guia and i get the same mpg :/

[@fookayou8607]

No5 No3 No2 is in all the mk6 fiestas not just ST

[@jaymono6498]

[ GTA5 GLITCHER ] didn’t know that!

[@fookayou8607]

JayMono yeah so not many issues more than the standard model, still love my mk6 though might upgrade to ST mk6 soon just not happy about high idle, if I was you I would go for the newish Ford Focus ST in light blue thing is a beauty.

[@christiandeleo7737]

i have got myself a ford fiesta st yesterday model year 2008. i had a 2007 mk6 1.4 for a year and i noticed some differences. 1 my ford st do not make any noise when steering (the 1.4 yes) 2 the st sucks in with angle of steering (the 1.4 way more) 3 the same sheet with the boot applies even for the nissan 350z lol 4 torque missing ( I cannot feel the car below 3000 rpm) 5 if you race the st, the gearbox gets hot ( at list in my model) - i have a metal gear nub 6 the ride could be lower from factory. for the rest is good fun. i suggest to get an AMG any year as update as a project.

[@jaymono6498]

It's cool that you've upgraded and been able to compare the two cars - I haven't driven any other MK-6 other than the ST so I wouldn't know about the others. Good suggestion for an upgrade, still on the fence about keeping it or buying something else..

[@christiandeleo7737]

another good car to look at would be mini cooper s turbo. not too expensive but is a good laugh. nissan 350 z is an awesome car for more or less £5000 Subaru impreza (good road presence - nothing can stop it) clio 186 (fast but cheaply made interiors) any AMG would be an investment as they go up in price with the time if well maintained fast and confy megane cup (cheap but has a couple of issues with no space in engine bay to work on) an amazing e30 BMW (a car that will never die) audi s3 (older models - may have some issues, more expensive but bloody fast and comfortable) honda civic type R (this is an awesome handling and bloody quick car for the best value with a strong engine) Chevrolette aveo SS (fun car to drive fairly strong - they are rare) WV polo GTI (expensive but faster than ST and very well made interior) obviously the golf GTI 1.8 turbo (very good car to drive at list once) audi TT series S (very quick excellent for track projects) alfaromeo 147 (I dont remember the sport version name, very powerful amazing interiors, doesn't like to turn too much but is a good car) mazda miata (you should know this car - rear wheel drive!! 120hp good fun, very cheap) i hope this can help you with changing the car if you need.

[@jaymono6498]

These are some good suggestions - I think I've decided that the next car I'd like is a Audi S3 - 2007 and onwards. I've considered a few on the list you've put in the past. Think I'm going to hold onto the Fiesta ST for now for at least another year though I had a Golf 1.8T, took it through 11 contraries in Europe, it was a very fast and fun car, I'm close to buying a cheap Mazda Miata for a drift car either that or a E30 BMW.

[@douglaspuglas6888]

1 thing I hate about Fiesta ST 1: the prick that drives them

[@jaymono6498]

adrian ellis Aha I should have done a 5 things I hate about ST drivers video instead 😂

[@ikebuttle360]

I’ll have your devil eyes if you upgrade 😂

[@jaymono6498]

aha I'll let you know! I've got the original as spares so totally possible...

[@danielmorgan6886]

Loved my mk6 st's thinking of getting a third lol bud i upgraded to an r32 lmfao bud i was always get like 29mpg around towns and 37mpg if i took it steady on a run

[@jaymono6498]

An R32 was on the list of potential cars, I've got a Golf 1.8T in the garage which is pushing 230 ish BHP which is really fun and I've always like the look of the MK4. I get 27MPG in the ST if I drive like an old lady around town!

[@danielmorgan6886]

JayMono i sold my polo gti a few month ago they got the same engines i had it 270bhp in a car that weighs nothing it was a little weapon

[@jaymono6498]

Never considered a Polo GTI... I've heard they take well to mods and tuning and a small car like that with such power must be mentaaal

[@danielmorgan6886]

Yes bud it was alot of fun im buying it back soon as i miss it jusy saw it come up for sale so tempted

[@jaymono6498]

Must have bene good if you're buying it back aha

[@markjones5226]

37mpg, ramair filter and powerflow back box, and i dont drive like an old git

[@jaymono6498]

Mark Jones mines gotten better now that I’ve fixed the idling issue, getting around 31mpg and only drive it on B roads!

[@billyr8499]

@@jaymono6498 How did you fix the idling issue iv got the same problem on my ST150?

[@jaymono6498]

Billy Regan was a split PCV valve in the end which fixed it. Got a a few videos of what I tired to fix it (cleaned throttle body, new intake hoses & breather) but it just needed a new PCV valve in the end!

[@billyr8499]

@@jaymono6498 Cheers bro i saw that video of you fixing it after i wrote this comment lol. Mine is actually idling diffrent to what yours was. When your coming to a stop and push the clutch in it revs up and down between 600 RPM to 1500 RPM, once its stopped it settles at 900 which is where it should be as soon as i push the clutch in. Any ideas?

[@jaymono6498]

Billy Regan mine did the exact same when coming to a stop, a test would be to rev yours once you’re stopped and see if it settles to 900 straight away or if it hangs around above that/idles weird. It sounds like the same issue as mine. Basically you’ll only notice it at lower revs because the split in the hose is bringing more air into the system so the ECU matches that by adding more fuel. Can always try the easier route and clean you’re throttle body to see if that helps - mine was grim but it didn’t help the idle issue and made me reload that it was the split PCV hose

[@AttakaiUa]

Fiesta is great in steering, come on.

[@smokecartel1259]

Dont get rid. Supercharge instead 330bhp at least

[@jaymono6498]

I'd love to! Just need the money to sink into it!

[@playcer8388]

1:54 that's just the power steering