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@pappus37124 жыл бұрын
just did. Thank you great content, as always.
@antmosis34854 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with the dashboard, even the 125cc version of the bike has a much clearer display
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
@His Masters Voice Lol, ok little man.
@cuccitiniooiglesias1874 жыл бұрын
I'm support you
@frontieroverland45023 жыл бұрын
Would you say this can be a decent begginner bike?
@hooeetube4 жыл бұрын
Love my CB650R as well. Agree with everything here, especially the seat. One to add, which is also very minor: give us an oil window. The dipstick should be a thing of the past on most bikes.
@phreenom3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my CB300F has an oil window. Surprised this doesn't.
@rony.4823 жыл бұрын
Wot? Crazy that it doesn't have an oil window 0.0
@tvbuu3 жыл бұрын
@@phreenom thats crazy, my cbr 500r has one
@joseph82082 жыл бұрын
Until I read your comment I never thought of that, My last two bikes had a window but i still never even realised my honda doesn't till you mentioned it. G whizz, I'm actually gonnna have to dip the stick.
@motomc69627 ай бұрын
Dipsticks better why fix what wasn’t broken
@migsteele4 жыл бұрын
I managed to have a better experience with the dash by putting a non reflective screen protector on it. Not perfect, but means I can always see the speedo
@ondrejzaruba34024 жыл бұрын
same, check out speedo-angels anti-glare screen protectors
@rolandfullthrottle83164 жыл бұрын
Same here
@Finriel194 жыл бұрын
Yep, i did the same, improves it to a point where I never can't read the important stuff.
@josephernandez26484 жыл бұрын
Speedo angels here too.
@gullit974 жыл бұрын
“Glad” to know mine isn’t the only one with corrosion problems. Absolutely in love with this bike though
@johnDukemaster4 жыл бұрын
As you know, I own one of these aswell. And I absolutely love it! Done 13 000km on it and I must comment on your 5 list. Yep, the dash...even at brightest setting it's just not bright enough. But at the same time, it's very rare that I can't read it. Corrosion? Nope, no problems on mine. Seat? It's one of the best without looking like a sofa. But I do have to stop for various reasons anyway every hour or so. (lower the pegs!) Traction control? Works fine on mine. Just lucky or are you unlucky? Rear light...I think it looks so good! Things I do not like: Yellow spring...yak! (painted it!) Front mudguard...yak! (changed it for one in aluminium) Front headlight...it's just not good enough at the edges, 20 past to 40 past, riding in nighttime. Except 30 past-ish. So there are dark patches going in the curves and that's not good at all! Otherwise I love the bike! Thank you Dan!
@vintagerealityvr4 жыл бұрын
was not happy with the headlight at night unless I turned my hi beams on - until I adjusted my low beam. I cranked it up a few turns and realized it was just not aimed correctly from the shoo
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure we have our own list for things we hate, this is just mine! Thanks for watching, yes, the yellow spring was a really odd choice but I think it's just something they already had laying about so went with it.
@johnDukemaster4 жыл бұрын
@@vintagerealityvr Mine too!
@johnDukemaster4 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan True! A bit worrying about the corrosion though...
@isipbatamobrogang54404 жыл бұрын
How dod you paint the rear shock? Took it off?
@BeinginMotion4 жыл бұрын
I took my Mod1 and Mod2 tests on the CB650R and I really loved it - can confirm the gash-dash, surprised at the build quality though! Great vid Dan!
@socialising60373 жыл бұрын
Done mine on a kawasaki er6n saw the Honda at the test centre instantly fell in love with its looks and colour. Lookin at getting one once I've sold my dirt bike
@glasseater34743 жыл бұрын
I wish I could ride this bike, it's my dream bike at the moment and it looks beutiful. That being said I'm only 16 and a while away from getting a motorbike but the honda cb650r is drop dead gorgeous and I'm sure it would be a amazing bike for a beginner.
@marshmellow3774 жыл бұрын
KZbin voice coming on strong buddy!! ;-)
@Fee.14 жыл бұрын
The what now?
@jameschristensen16584 жыл бұрын
Fee there’s a certain way youtubers talk in their videos, kinda like news anchors
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
@@Fee.1 Don't sweat it. Phil is a good friend of mine so he knows I don't talk this way in 'real life'. Damn KZbin voice and I don't even know I'm doing it.
@tarkilldudegaming22964 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan ye aha, you're talking like 'mrwhosetheboss' in this vid
@drbigmix77524 жыл бұрын
Did my test on this exact bike and that indicator position took at least 5% of my brain power at all times to not beep the horn at each junction...... if I owned it I’m sure I would adapt to the odd position but just jumping on for a test was a bit of a challenge!
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
Yeah took me a while. If you watch my first test ride video of this and the CBR650R I keep giving accidental horn! 😂 Totally used to it now 1 year on.
@cadiwa1 Жыл бұрын
I’m just about to buy one of these, best bike I’ve test ridden after buying a cruiser and never enjoyed it the whole time I had it. Thanks for posting, you haven’t put me off 😅
@DavOlek_ua2 жыл бұрын
to fix the dash buy a matt smartphone screen protector. just buy the largest you can find and trim it. I have a macbook 13 mate screen protector for that)
@sebastianocornelio97742 жыл бұрын
The in-line 4 of this bike is the sweetest of any I’ve ever heard even with stock exhaust. That’s where 80% of the money is.
@saddamstyawan33163 жыл бұрын
I like your front wind shield man, thats make the front look amazing. 👍
@Finriel194 жыл бұрын
What annoys me most on my CB650R is the button layout on the left handle. I don't like that rocker switch for the lights, I often flash the high beams when I want to switch from high to low beam. Honda should have put the flash where the HSTC switch is. And the switch for the horn is hard to reach quickly. Other than that I'm very happy with the bike.
@meilmontigny92012 жыл бұрын
I've been riding for 30 years and it's my 7th bike, best one ever. Maybe except for the dash.
@reginaldbejerano64104 жыл бұрын
Sincere, honest and straight to the point review. I am planning to purchase sometime soon among this bike, the KTM 650 and the Kawasaki Z650 2020, I hope I can find a review on the 2 other bikes such as this..thank you, keep up the good work! Kudos!
@SparkySlow3 жыл бұрын
No one mention motto Guzzi Gas Gas and Aprilia
@laughingstalk13434 жыл бұрын
That shade of blue is to die for. We always get shafted with limited color options in the US.
@lyalminchinton88254 жыл бұрын
True , it surprises me USA misses out on some great cars and bikes. For such a big market it is strange. 🤔🤔🤔
@jannis.mp44544 жыл бұрын
For you display: You could use a matte display protector✌🏻 It's scratch resistant and also looks cool
@gwynnromano58814 жыл бұрын
Speed Angels might make an anti-glare, scratch and UV protection overlay. Like one on a smart phone. CORRECTION: it’s Speedo Angels
@alasdairmathieson41304 жыл бұрын
@@gwynnromano5881 Yeh they do makes a real difference.
@dsofe48794 жыл бұрын
Been commenting this on every video I see mentioning the dash. It's hard to overstate how much better it is without the glare.
@danielcortes60774 жыл бұрын
The subject I avoid thinking about for my bike... But deep down i know, nothing is perfect... Shes still beautiful bro!
@MRTPR4 жыл бұрын
Really agree with the riding to the conditions and don't rely on the riding aids.
@PinlockRider4 жыл бұрын
I don`t have issue with rust, or I don`t have yet, agree on the rest of the things, but I still love it!
@samueljung21654 жыл бұрын
About dash: i put a non-reflective protective film on it and it’s a lot more visible during day now. My bike stand out in rain often and I also dont have any corrosion issue. I had to check after your video! I am from korea and i got 14,000km on it. Maybe different areas have different set ups? We dont have any blue ones available afterall.
@leewatkeys90654 жыл бұрын
In the UK the roads get salted during the winter and it stays around until even April when the rain sprays it all over your bike. Last year I bought a Japanese Domestic Market Subaru 13 years old and no corrosion at all. I understand that the Japanese don’t salt their roads. 👍🏻
@thekanuck27782 жыл бұрын
@@leewatkeys9065 Probably why then. You need at least 3-4 good heavy rains to wash the salt off the roads. I live in Canada so I'm well versed in salted roads and what they do to vehicles.
@Model192 Жыл бұрын
I had the CBR650 and I couldn't get with the vibration of the engine. It would numb my hands and feet...wild for an i4. Gearing felt strange to me too. Hopped onto a new SV650, glad I did.
@alasdairmathieson41304 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue with rust but mine is on the frame in less than 9 months. Not quite what I expected at all from honda.
@davidcolquhoun43684 жыл бұрын
The rust on mine is bad it's on the engine and the frame. The water pipes at the very bottom are completely rusted the paint on the frame seems to rub of where the pillion seat sits engine bolts are rusted as well I would have thought they would be stainless and last longer . This is my first Honda I have owned looks like it will be my last unless Honda fixes this mess.
@TheCuriousOrbs4 жыл бұрын
Do you live or work close to the sea? Do you ride on roads they are de-iced using salt? Do you park outside where it frequently rains? I feel these will all have an impact on how much corrosion you're seeing.
@davidcolquhoun43684 жыл бұрын
@@TheCuriousOrbs I dont live near the see, the bike is garaged, I do have to ride it in salted roads sadly. I bought this bike in the middle of summer a month after I bought it there was rust on it no salt on the road yet. My bike gets treated with acf50 quite regularly in winter aswell I do not feel like the paint should be coming of a brand new bike.
@alasdairmathieson41304 жыл бұрын
@@davidcolquhoun4368 I'm having the same issues, I use acf50 every second weekend now, which I know is overkill. I have been out in salf but gets a really good wash after, also lives outside but is covered when not in use, overall pretty disappointed with the build quality, I don't expect rust after a year even if it was next to the sea...🤞 Honda sorts it out when they come off furlough.
@RichardsModellingAdventures3 жыл бұрын
@@alasdairmathieson4130 ACF50 is not as good as some people claim. Use a light machine oil such as Double TT or GT85. Apply after every wash. Use Waxoil on the really vulnerable parts in Winter, remove it in spring with White spirit.
@angkolspeedotv84374 жыл бұрын
I agree with the seat and corrosion on hose clip under..but its manageable. I modified the seat at upholstery.
@jckcc26 күн бұрын
Seems the 2024 did fix some of these issues: proper auto color changing TFT display, and a way nicer tail
@Englishbikerdan22 күн бұрын
Yeah, a few nice updates now.
@KamalSingh-wc4pw2 жыл бұрын
These are all great pointers for using when haggling at the Showroom
@unclejj5092 жыл бұрын
I love the look of this bike! There is a used 2020 at a dealer an hour from where I live for a fair asking price. This problem with the rust though has me nervous. I live in Florida on the coast and as you can imagine things rust here.
@FuriousGerbil52 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t do it. Just a problem waiting to happen
@robcrabb10194 жыл бұрын
Agree with all of these comments. My CB doesn't seem to have the rusting steel fittings but maybe mines is made in Asia. I changed the seat right away making It a little more comfortable and styled it to fit the red. Oh yeah... whack that end tail off and have the plate hanging off by brackets. Suits the back light a little better
@lukemiles17114 жыл бұрын
Got one as well! Love so much, just find it a little twitchy in 2nd gear.
@tvbuu3 жыл бұрын
same with my cbr500r
@8eewee4 жыл бұрын
The 1000 also suffers from easily rusting welds. Mine's 1,5 years old and is starting to get rusty on the exhaust. The welds under the tank also suffer from it, not even sure how as that area remains dry.
@davexs4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same about the screen when I rode and did a review, much to some owner's annoyance. Agree with the seat as well, but this is a common trait a lot of bikes have these days!!! Still loving my MT07 which was my preferred choice of the 2..........:D. Cheers Dan
@MinorAlvarezGomez3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.. I think that maybe we all have the same problem with the dash's light/brightness
@organichotdog38074 жыл бұрын
I've owned three Hondas over the years. I've found the engines to be bulletproof, but boring. I now prefer two cylinder engines. This bike is fairly expensive for a 650 so I am very surprised at Honda. Thanks for highlighting these issues.
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
Expensive in some places but not all. In the UK this bike is such good value. In other countries it makes less sense. IL4 engines are just different to twins. I find running out of revs on some middleweight twins annoying, so prefer higher reving engines such as IL4's. There's still plenty to love about this bike though, which will be shown in another video.
@danilmaximov2874 жыл бұрын
What do you think will be a better choice cb650r or mt09? I cannot decide for myself =(
@Paul1984kwon4 жыл бұрын
I was looking at this motorcycle before I passed my test, absolutely love the look of this machine, the style is just something else, the bullet proof engine, basically a new Hornet which I was admiring since I was a teenager. But one thing that put me off getting it ,was the fact that its made in Thailand, 7000£ made in Thailand....???!!! Ended up getting 2017 XSR 900... For the same money with 1860 miles on... I believed a Japanese bike should be made and put together in Japan...
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
To me it doesn't matter where a bike is made. My MT07 was fun but a rusty unreliable heap and that was made in Japan.
@Paul1984kwon4 жыл бұрын
EnglishBikerDan Well, as you mentioned in this video, they used cheaper materials nowadays on those bikes... hence the corrosion... It’s a pity really , because the bike is beautiful ... ACF50 all year round then ... :) I see MT07 used by motorcycling schools, that’s the bike I have passed my test on... You really consider them unreliable?
@mariofilipereira4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the bike. Safe riding!
@nirun44 жыл бұрын
This is a very helpful video as the CB650R is what I'm eyeing to get after I pass my A2 license. Might wait for the 2021 model to see whether they'll upgrade the dash and electronics like the Kawasaki Z650 & Z900
@thomasmoe3443 жыл бұрын
Also found rust on mine, a few bolts that was allready coated black from new and not touched. One thing I dont like is the throttling, its difficult to avoid jerking when engaging and disengaging the throttle. Allthough this is my first bike so I dont have anything to compare with, maybe its just me?
@manojrkumbhar3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree.. tail light and dashboard are what stopping me from buying this one..
@mrtobiasreiper47143 жыл бұрын
You can add bar end mirrors to give it a new look.
@nadinethau4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dan. Good vid. What I hate are the two bulky air vents either side of the tank. Aesthetically unpleasant. Would like to just get rid. Seat agreed, not only hard but also the cover looks plastic/ fake. But I love this bike!
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
I like those. I pretend they are missile launchers and I blow up idiot drivers. 😁
@horspiste4 жыл бұрын
Not about bikes (please don't shoot me, I am a biker) but I have owned 3 Honda cars over the years. The first was a Civic, beautifully built in Japan as Car magazine used to say, but I just couldn't find a comfortable seating position so it had to go. Next was a 2 litre petrol auto CRV, which I think was also made in Japan. That was a great car but very thirsty on long autoroute trips through France and with a small fuel tank. Traded that for one of the new shape diesel CRVs when they came out. This one was built in Swindon I believe. Within a couple of months most of the hose clips under the bonnet were going rusty. At the first 12 month service the rear discs had to be skimmed because they were so rusty - and as I later discovered this was because the rear brakes were never actually coming on, so the pads never scrubbed the discs. The final straw was a complete flattening of the battery in 2 1/2 weeks when the car was left in a long term airport car park and I was overseas for work. Later, I measured the "standing current" drain from the battery and sure enough it would flatten it in that time. Not impressed Mr Honda.
@trailrider19804 жыл бұрын
I have an mt09. It was basically my first bike. It is flashed with full exhaust and nitron suspension. How does your bike compares to the mt09?
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
MT09 has a bonkers engine, way more than the CB650R but the suspension on the MT09 is awful. Really let's the bike down. Easily rectified though with some springs heavier fork oil and a Nitron rear shock. Enjoy your wheelie Machine! 👍
@trailrider19804 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan from watching your mt09 review I could tell that you were not very impressed with the mt09. I love the look of the cb650r and even thought of selling my mt09 and getting a cb650r but I really like the power of the mt09 and once it is flashed it becomes very smooth. I ride on A mode all the time.
@thomasg.88924 жыл бұрын
Exactly the video I was waiting from you! Thanks a lot :)
@mohammedrahman34474 жыл бұрын
When I was looking to buy my first bike last fall it was between the Honda CB650R and the Yamaha MT07. I didn't know about the corrosion issue or the traction control but I agree with everything else. I went for the Yamaha MT07 because I thought it is better then the Honda in the dash and the build quality as the Yamaha is made in Japan and it is much cheaper. Not to mention the Yamaha has more power as well.
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
My corrosion issues were much worse on my MT07. Swing arm and coolant pipes corrode so badly. At least the Honda only has hose clamps that corrode.
@mohammedrahman34474 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan I'm hoping they addressed that on the 2018 model.
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedrahman3447 Definitely not.
@JoseVazquez-dy9tu2 жыл бұрын
Coming from riding a 2004 R6 for 10 years... I found the CB650R adequate but not exciting... was great for commuting... lots of vibration at first but now has settled down some... I had a CB300R and found that bike way more fun to ride.... except on the fwy
@Englishbikerdan2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even old R6's are super sports machines. The 650 is just a comfy naked with a nice revvy engine. Still, we like what we like. Cheers!
@GMANS_BIKES_CARS4 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, where’s part 2 of your euro trip 😜👍
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
Still in editing I'm afraid!
@GMANS_BIKES_CARS4 жыл бұрын
EnglishBikerDan , takes time mate as I know, did you get to watch and of my Spain trip vids? Ive run out of things to film, desperate to get back on the road 😬
@heidcam4 жыл бұрын
Agreed on the corrosion Dan. And that’s after bathing the bike in ACF50! I actually don’t mind the dash and the seat......what annoys me though..... and it’ll be the reason for getting shot of the bike is the fact that it’s a bit slow. 🤣
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
The power never bothered me, I've done the mega-powerful bike thing in my 20's. It's no rocket but it's still quick enough for fun. Plus I love how it screams at the top, so addictive!
@RichardsModellingAdventures3 жыл бұрын
ACF50 is crap. There are cheaper and better products to protect a bike
@fridgemagnet4 жыл бұрын
got a 2009 hornet made in italy, it lives outside and has ten british winters under its belt, the build quality is awesome, hardly any rust at all.
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
Had a few of those myself. Excellent bikes
@antoniocavalli54745 ай бұрын
rust problems can be solved easy, seat can be modified easy, Traction Control can be disabled and lamp design each to their own.. Only real issue is the dark display in sunny days
@Englishbikerdan5 ай бұрын
Rust on a brand-new motorcycle with zero miles is a problem, however, you try to spin it. Yes, other issues can be fixed, but I like to highlight things I find on bikes.
@exeterrider4 жыл бұрын
Good post. I agree the dash gets lost very easily, I don't like the way it's set out with the rev counter either. The traction control seemed to do nothing when I tried one on all settings. The seat is typical Honda, They need to get on top of that. It's almost like they make them uncomfortable on purpose. Like you say - it's still a good bike. 👍🍻🏍️
@hiropailas93063 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro for the honest review for this bike. Im hoping that you will have a review also for the Suzuki Gsxs750 Japan
@Heshanudugama2 жыл бұрын
I used to drive a 1995 cb400. I was very happy back then hahah
@Englishbikerdan2 жыл бұрын
Ah the good ol' days! :D
@naiboz4 жыл бұрын
I was looking at trading my 2011 hornet for one last year, didn’t do it , just couldn’t find the extra value in the cb650 to justify it.
@mifili644 жыл бұрын
I was watching this video and I was shocked when I saw the rusted parts. My 2009 Hornet does not have as much corrosion and its ridden all year, even in the rain. I guess even with the Honda the quality is not what it used to be for the middleweight class. The 2007+ Hornets were made in Italy.
@naiboz4 жыл бұрын
mifili64 exactly, mine is literally mint, not a spot of rust on her
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
I've had around 5 Hornets. 1998 up to around 2010. Great bikes. The rust was only a couple of hose clamps so not anything major. However, to see that on a bike with 0 miles isn't good QA. Just hope they pick these points up.
@tanha81782 жыл бұрын
Do you think people should look for the used cb1000r baracuda instead?
@paxonearth3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking hard at this bike, and it's absolutely on my list. While some of these gripes are subjective, the corrosion issue isn't. It's completely unacceptable that a customer would spend THOUSANDS of their hard-earned dollars (or pounds) on a NEW bike and be dealing with something like corrosion. Honda should foot the bill to replace any corroded part on a new bike.
@Englishbikerdan3 жыл бұрын
It's not ideal BUT, it is only a hose clip or two. It's nowhere else on the bike so far, nearly 2 years on in all weathers.
@paxonearth3 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan That's good.
@ei..3 ай бұрын
Looking at getting my first bike really soon. Getting an a2 license, so it's between a ~5-6k euro 2018-2021 cb500f (or similar), or a 2020 cb650f for about 9k after the cost of the a2 kit. Since it's my first bike ever, I'm a bit scared of getting something more expensive since it will probably end up in the ground, but at the same time, it's only 30% more expensive than a normal a2 bike where I live.
@n407989 ай бұрын
I really hate that it doesnt have a sight glass for the oil level or inserts for swing arm spools
@magmafist4 жыл бұрын
1. Dash - I don't know why, but I love this dash over MT 07 I set it only 4/5 brightness, and it's been working great here (Bangkok Thailand) where it is always Sunny hot 2. Traction control - I always have it off anyway. I only turn it on when riding on wet road / rain I used to ride a Harley, so I'm used to riding without any traction control 3. Corrosion - don't see any for me. only factory fault found on mine was the front right fork leaking oil, inspected at 1,000 km service The dealership made the claim and changed me a new one within a week I heard MT 07 had more corrosion problem. Never heard of that on any CB / CBR 650 R here 4. Seat - yes, stock seat not comfortable for long ride. I had a local shop installed gels on both the rider and pillion stock seat about US $ 90 total, and it makes a BIG different. 5. Tail brake lights - I don't really care 😗 I have annoying problem shifting from 1st to 2nd gear, often hitting in Neutral 2nd to 1st gear shift many times I have to kick down hard or it only crank down to Neutral sometimes i keep finding fault Neutral between any gears 3 to 5th when using Quick shifter Can't wait to see new generation of MT 07. If they improve the suspension, I might consider trading in after 4-5 years
@PhilipKerry4 жыл бұрын
That's because over here in Europe we have to salt on the roads in winter to combat ice and snow and rust is caused by that combination of salt and wet , not a combination i think you get in Thailand .
@magmafist4 жыл бұрын
Ah I see. But at least the roads are good there no? Roads here are so bad, that's why CB 500 X is top sales
@Poisoned20104 жыл бұрын
Just got my CB650R; same on all hose clamps showing rust.
@xingbing6003 жыл бұрын
Looks of this bike is preety much loveable but triumph trident is much more attractive
@Englishbikerdan3 жыл бұрын
The Trident certainly is a looker! Cheers!
@fiderallala7541 Жыл бұрын
Try the short license plate holder and a cover for the rear seat, it will give the bike a completley different look
@Englishbikerdan Жыл бұрын
Had the tail tidy and removed it. Useless for commuting in wet weather.
@fiderallala7541 Жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan ah okay makes sense , wet weather in the uk 😆
@Englishbikerdan Жыл бұрын
@@fiderallala7541 Yep, you just have a wet arse all the time! :D
@thumper21404 жыл бұрын
Elo Dan once again, I've got my triumph so sorry no comment on your bike. Just a reminder about part 2 of your Euro trip cant wait to see that take care ride safe mate
@TheRepairMan4 жыл бұрын
I bought one 3 weeks ago 2020, and I love everything on this bike, I am just adding the windshield, sliders, changing the brake and clutch, exhaust guard, light shield, radiator guard and after that nothing else I like the way it is.
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Enjoy the bike. 👍
@moreorlesdone14974 жыл бұрын
I have the latest CB500X with the same dash. And I 100% agree. It seems pointless to have this display when it can't be read. It surely wouldn't have cost much more to have gone with the TFT style displays.
@hoffaviationltd5184 жыл бұрын
Dan excellent reviews on the CB650R especially when we see after a period the things that you hate. Riding some of my local roads and wonder if i have seen you around. Now my questions is this........What about the XSR 700 against the CB650R? Have you tried the XSR? I know you have the MT07 but would the XSR700 change your mind? I ride an original 03 BMW F650 GS Dakar and want a change back to either a Yamaha or Honda, which though? Thoughts?
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yeah perhaps, I'm always out and about! I've not ridden the XSR but it seems to be very similar technically. Many people still complain about the suspension but there's no denying that engine is fun! I'd say test ride both and get the one you prefer. Ride safe! EBD ✌️
@niklas17234 жыл бұрын
I don't get why people complain this much about the display. If set to full brightness I don't have any issues with readability even in bright sunlight. Maybe they increased the brightness with later models? Bought mine end of last year.
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they may have changed the brightness level. Mine on full brightness is really dull.
@TheCuriousOrbs4 жыл бұрын
same. Mine is an August 2019 build and its fine on a sunny day. Could also be something to do with a riders eye condition? Maybe some of us are more sensitive to daylight than others. Regardless, the display should be brighter if this is even a complaint from one user.
@philbowl14424 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you, i am buying this bike this month and i really did not expected that corosion :O. If i will see it on my motorbike i will demand change the part for free.
@farmoboy834 жыл бұрын
That corrosion in ,such a new bike is not accepable, justo for example, my sh300i with 10years old 60000k riding all year round still holds the same radiator hose clips rust free...
@ajmf-hy8qt4 жыл бұрын
GO GSXS750
@stephanep51634 жыл бұрын
I fully share your point of view for the seat, this is my number 1 of bad things on my CB, the dash is also a weak point a tft would have been better but I put a protective film and globally I am always able to see it. For the rear end, I removed the tail plate holder and put the topblock one close to the rear wheel, looks much better now like the bigger sister CB1000R, that's it for me alĺ the rest is perfect for me, I have no rust issue, just the chrome of the header seems to be not first quality...
@aimanhaziqnoorhisham25104 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan such a nice video and your voice over sounds very very familiar, sounds like ones from this one chronology channel by the name Watchfinder & Co. Anyways, I’m getting my CB650R in a couple of months due to 2 to 3 months waiting list here in Malaysia, and I cannot wait to have it. Keep creating good contents, cheers mate!
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, I'll check that channel out if the poor guy sounds like me! Thanks! 😊
@PhilbyFavourites4 жыл бұрын
EnglishBikerDan: I hadn’t given it a thought, but yes you do sound VERY similar to the gent narrating on that channel. But the the watches he reviews are about the same price as the bike..... very nice, but I’ll take the bike every time. Your narration technique is spot on - you may have the face for radio (he chuckled), but certainly the voice for KZbin. Keep up the good work.
@TheCuriousOrbs4 жыл бұрын
Malaysia gets super soggy during wet months. I'd recommend not losing the stock tail kit if that was on your upgrade list. My dealer put in a tail tidy for me and it does get a bit muddy back there without the full-length tail.
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
Just over a year ago I had a CB125R, it had the a similar type of inverted LCD dash. Yes it was a nightmare to see in bright sunlight. Suzuki manage to put on an old school LCD on their SV650 that is perfectly visible in bright sunlight . Maybe the Suzuki one doesn't look as "cool" , but well I'd rather be able to see how fast I'm going !
@rshoemaker614 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the evaluation really to get this bike soon. ATB
@TheCuriousOrbs4 жыл бұрын
I was already read-up and warned about the dim dash display, but after bumping up the brightness to maximum, even the Sydney midday sun didn't kill it. I've never seen a TFT display so maybe that would spoil me for it somewhat. And yes, the mild steel hose clamps are already starting to tarnish after just 6 months, easy enough to swap out for stainless if they get much worse I guess. My only pet peeve on the bike is the way the traction control randomly switches off and stays off (love to hear from others having the same issue). I'm inclined to think that my LH glove is catching the lever when the clutch is pulled and have even toyed with the idea of taking to it with a Dremel to shorten the plastic activator switch a few millimetres. Hmmmm... other than that, Can't fault this bike. A pleasure to own and ride.
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
Not had any issues with traction turning itself off, just the bipolar nature of it sometimes. I love this bike but no bike is perfect.
@stoff21p4 жыл бұрын
Mate just send your seat in to SW Motech and have them increase the padding. I’m sure they do it for the 650r aswell 👍🏼
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
The problem is I use my bike almost everyday so I can't have any downtime.
@stoff21p4 жыл бұрын
EnglishBikerDan yeah that’s one of the downsides of the SW Motech service. Hopefully they’ll add a service in the future where you don’t have to send in your existing seat.
@manyuen42774 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to getting mine one soon, just wonder would you mind having a video the shows how bright the headlight is?
@joniboy25224 жыл бұрын
I agree on the seat. Like the CB250r, it will become really uncomfortable after an hour on road. What I did tho, I added sponge in it and it work.
@grahamhiggins14 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the video Dan. That’s my experience with mid weigh recent Honda’s too. Some good stainless steel parts on them and others which are painted but rust rapidly, lots of bolts which should be stainless and are not. My mate’s 2018 NC750X is suffering badly with it. It’s put me off Honda which has always been my preferred brand. They need to sort this out or will lose customers. On my recent Honda, no amount of rust inhibitor is keeping it off!
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
It seems to be very hit and miss. My CB500X was perfect and I had that over a year.
@tommikunda71064 жыл бұрын
3 year old NC750S run all year but no rust on mine, luckily...
@stevebolton84714 жыл бұрын
The NC also has a hard seat, partly because the slope forces your gonads on to the tank and partly because it is hard!
@TheCuriousOrbs4 жыл бұрын
Surprising they don't standardise on stainless fasteners for all exposed fittings knowing how much the price of stainless has dropped in recent years. The effect on the overall sale price of the bike would absolutely minimal and would instantly dispel any bad reviews for premature corrosion. I often buy stainless fasteners in my work for machine building, when buying in bulk, they basically cost the same as plated mild steel. It's only retail buyers that have to pay a premium for 304/316, not OEM producers like Honda.
@BONESnCMA Жыл бұрын
It's thailand build, and my 2022 CB650R doesn't have these issues. The tailunit design is solved for 35,- on amazon.
@kguygo2 жыл бұрын
Led headlight spread too poor? ( Can see Only a horizontal line in videos)
@Englishbikerdan2 жыл бұрын
It's not great but a lot better than a video can show.
@gilchevy2 жыл бұрын
the rusty hose clamps are a deal breaker
@peterrichards738711 ай бұрын
Hi Dan, great review and I'm looking forward to picking up my low mileage nearly new model. However mine will not come with a screen and the one on this bike looks ideal. Can you reply with a link to the manufacturer or some details please.
@workshybum4 жыл бұрын
Hate is a strong word! I don’t have an issue with the dash, rear light or the traction control to be honest, but I’m with you on the seat and I am quite disappointed with the corrosion on the clips. Given the price point though, I have no huge complaints.
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but YT probably won't recommend a video that says "5 things that mildy disgruntle me". It's for the viewwwwwws. The shame. :D
@workshybum4 жыл бұрын
EnglishBikerDan 🤣 The things a man must do...
@chrisdadigger1018 Жыл бұрын
They should have put the 650r engine in the 2022 cb 500f chassis. It’s much nicer looking. Sharper angles nicer front head light and a much nicer looking rear end.
@KK-hp5bl2 жыл бұрын
thank you sir, im grateful for your review!!
@altypeRR4 жыл бұрын
To me that seems like a list of winges. The LCD is fine (all be it on my CBR), not got any issues with rust (although a liberal coating of XCP has been applied) and as for the tail. Get rid of it for a tail tidy and it is vastly improved. Also pyramid plastics do a hugger extension which solves the rear spray issue.
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
Bottom right corner. You're welcome. Tail tidy is useless unless you want to get soaked and flood under the pillion seat where the charger is. Tail tidy won't fix the crap looking rear light. It literally looks identical to my 1996 ZX7R rear light. So generic looking. Meh!
@altypeRR4 жыл бұрын
EnglishBikerDan so you literally read nothing of what I said. The standard tail does nothing to stop spray. The hugger extension does. Actually I think the rear light really suits the bike once the tail has gone. Bottom right?
@TheCuriousOrbs4 жыл бұрын
@@Englishbikerdan I was happy with the tail light until you mentioned a twin circular pair. Now I will forever see the ass of this bike as dated.
@theowood84844 жыл бұрын
Good format this video 👍
@df95433 жыл бұрын
the only thing i hate about cb650r is that ugly round retro headlight, but I'm not sure if it can be replaced with normal or triangle headlight like one on CB650F
@MacheteAustria Жыл бұрын
One of the nicest Bike on the market! 😎
@martinrea85482 жыл бұрын
The most worrying defect would be the build quality. Having rusty components is just poor. Very disappointing for a Honda.
@nassosa3 жыл бұрын
Hello @englishbikedan. Love you’re reviews. Question cb650r or the trident?
@Englishbikerdan3 жыл бұрын
I'll be able to answer that better in April as I'll have the Trident for over a week. 👍
@shellbackbeau70213 жыл бұрын
OK, so cb650r for ¥979,000 or rebel 1100 for ¥1,100,000? I'm 5'11, 235lb, live in metro Japan(so 30km~60km speed limits unless you get on a toll road, then you're up to maybe 120km), lane filtering at stoplights are legal so bike width is a factor, most rides will be around 30 minutes, maybe up to an hour, and then occasionally up to 2 hours, and maybe once a quarter for all day rides. My previous bike was a ktm Duke 390. I've trained on a Harley 650, I've test ridden a Diavel(loved it, can't afford it) and I've ridden another small cruiser and naked. I'm leaning towards the rebel 1100. I'm planning on it I can, to test ride each. What's your opinion?
@Team-Fraser3 жыл бұрын
I bought my first bike about 1 1/2 year ago, a Honda MSX125 which I have really enjoyed owning. I'll be doing to full licence next year then planning to get either Rebel 500 or CB300R. I've watched your review on the Rebel which I enjoyed, are you planning to review the CB300R? Thanks
@yanierolivera46784 ай бұрын
Funny, none of those points annoy me about mine. I’ve sat on much, much worse seats. If there’s one thing that I really hate about this engine is the vibrations at 6000 rpm. I mean, this is right at the middle of the rev range and it can be excessive. Also , the gear box could be smoother, with more positive feedback and not miss the up shift into 2nd so often. Other than that, I never look at the tachometer, barely look at the gear indicator, never look at the calculated mileage or trip odometer. I watch my speed and fuel level. Don’t need an ipad with 2000 knits of brightness in front of me while riding. In my opinion this is probably the coolest looking bike in this category. A perfect bike would be unaffordable…
@Englishbikerdan4 ай бұрын
We're all different, and all have different peeves.
@MrEzplay2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@6729solarwolf4 жыл бұрын
The guage cluster would be easier to read with an orange backlight and text color in black.
@LDrift4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you about the seat.. It's a killer lol. Have you considered the Bagster Seat? Would love to see your opinion on it!
@Englishbikerdan4 жыл бұрын
I have but it's too costly and I don't know if it would actually be any better. I might try a SW Motech Traveller seat add on.
@--matthew--2 жыл бұрын
The dash brightness can be adjusted...
@Englishbikerdan2 жыл бұрын
LIsten to what I said at 0:44. :)
@Hillsidemike3693 жыл бұрын
Last year I got a new Forza 300 and under all the panels the frame was rusty at every weld. I complained to them about it. they didn’t do anything I don’t think Honda quality is what it used to be