5 Things You Should Know BEFORE Buying a Zenith Chronomaster Sport

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@watchfinder
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@jplanzetti2410
@jplanzetti2410 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not just a Rolex it’s a Zenith and a special, incredible one! I bought this watch and enjoy it every 10th of seconds.
@valerioamato3761
@valerioamato3761 Жыл бұрын
thumb up, if it's true
@savariaxa
@savariaxa 3 жыл бұрын
I still own one of the first Zenith El Primero’s from 1969 and still running great a masterpiece and 52 years old 😉
@onceuponascale
@onceuponascale 11 ай бұрын
Right on. Got my El primero passed on by my father. Wearing it with pride.
@JamesandRibble
@JamesandRibble 3 жыл бұрын
"So not a Rolex then?". "No, it's much better than that". Conversation over.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
And without Zenith, the Daytona could well have died on the vine.
@arp76
@arp76 3 жыл бұрын
Complaining about “10th of a second” is like me complaining about you tubers begging everyone to “subscribe”. It’s part of life, why get frustrated over something so trivial Also this watch is 💯 better than any Rolex daytona
@jamess8175
@jamess8175 2 жыл бұрын
Fully agree. Moreover, the date window isn't hideous by any means and does not damage the good looks of the dial. Why condemn the watch and the brand? Gosh!
@johnwheat5199
@johnwheat5199 3 жыл бұрын
The very fact that this watch isn't a Rolex Daytona is enough of a reason to buy it. The fact that it is also technically superior to the Rolex, seems to have passed you by. I think it also pertinent to point out, the 16520, which also happens to be one of the most sought after Daytona's ever, has a Zenith movement. Some argue it represents "The Zenith" of Rolex Daytona production, I agree!
@roycedot
@roycedot 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a heavily modified El Primero more mental. 50% of the parts are replaced.
@raphaeldegabriele7873
@raphaeldegabriele7873 2 жыл бұрын
This review is missing the point here on so many fronts.....the overlapping subdials are a design feature that visually work really well and don't interfere with function at all. The date window position makes the date easy to read at a glance (I wouldn't buy a watch without a date feature). You can look down at your watch without having to pull up your wrist completely parallel to your face. Most would purchase this watch for the movement and with good reason.....as for people mistaking it for a Rolex, that's their problem. Never bought anything to please or appease someone else. The clasp is awkward, I'll give you that, though it gets easier after a bit of use......
@johnwheat5199
@johnwheat5199 2 жыл бұрын
@@raphaeldegabriele7873 I couldn't agree more...
@nishantprakash5928
@nishantprakash5928 2 жыл бұрын
@@roycedot still, Rolex couldn't make a self winding chronograph movement
@kevinbarnbrook4728
@kevinbarnbrook4728 2 жыл бұрын
@@nishantprakash5928 No they had to use the zenith el primero movement, then ruin to make it a 4hz movie, for the Daytona.
@johnsports32
@johnsports32 3 жыл бұрын
If everything including money and availability were equal, I’d still buy the Chrono Sport. I just think it looks better.
@sdemosi
@sdemosi 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I'd have it any day of the week over the Rolex. Then again, I lost a fortune by swapping a Daytona for a Zenith years ago so I'm not the best person to ask. The only Rolexes I really like are the GMT Master and the Sky Dweller. I don't own either of them as I just got into other brands & the current grey market premium is ridiculous
@TheLocara
@TheLocara 3 жыл бұрын
Never before have I seen the Talking Hands actually be visibly frustrated on camera before, wtf
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 3 жыл бұрын
Lol that bracelet looks harder to open than my dad’s old Chinese made watch, seems like all the brands that are better than Rolerskate has the same bracelet problem…
@sylinmino
@sylinmino 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard others have similar complaints with the CMS Sport bracelet too. It's like they combined the visual design of a Rolex bracelet/clasp with the make quality of a Grand Seiko bracelet lol. Except even my GS is way easier to open than that.
@simonaldridge4099
@simonaldridge4099 2 ай бұрын
​@sylinmino lmao off topic but holy crap Grand Seiko bracelets are literally the worst design EVER! Two teeny tiny little link screws at the end that are just begging to get lost in your carpet, and little link pins in the middle that need to be forced out by a punch. For a watch so otherwise well-made, it's positively mind boggling!
@davedavidson614
@davedavidson614 3 жыл бұрын
I'm normally pretty OCD about things but I like the date window.
@gonnabeok
@gonnabeok 3 жыл бұрын
Zenith discreetly slips past many flashy brands, while being not a bit worse with any given aspect. This discreteness is Zenith's valuable vantage appreciated by knowledgeable people.
@gam88a
@gam88a 3 жыл бұрын
But it’s not very discrete when it looks like a Daytona is it 😉
@Lukas-kh5gu
@Lukas-kh5gu 3 жыл бұрын
@@gam88a well, it doesn‘t look like a daytona in real life.
@kevinkohler2750
@kevinkohler2750 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the date at 0430, and I wish more watchmakers would do this. Sometimes I check the time. Sometimes I check the date. I never seem to need to check the time and date at the same instant. The date at 0430 let's me check the date without having to move my arm so much. Look at the 7:12 mark in the video and how perfectly the date lines up for easy viewing. And it doesn't intrude on the poles, like a date at 3 or 6 does, so reading the time is more clear as well. Love it.
@stewester
@stewester 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on. People need to think how the date looks when you're actually wearing the watch, not in a stock photo with the watch directly head-on.
@RD0102
@RD0102 3 жыл бұрын
I have this watch.... the whole nail killer thing... it is for reals! I literally opened/closed the clasp many many many many many many many many times in a row using a plastic tool and it solved the issue. I guess now it's broken in. Damn shame for a watch asking 10k. However, I do love the watch!! Date window doesn't bother me. What bothers me is chronographs with screw down push guards! So glad Zenith never went that route.
@vdbdg
@vdbdg 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this watch because it addressed the annoying things about the Daytona: never to be used screwed down pushers, absence of date, no real world application of the tachymeter scale, nothing to see through the case back and ubiquitous image pointing at douchebags rather than someone who actually knows anything about watches.
@ianmichelino9697
@ianmichelino9697 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the Internet failing when Zenith introduces a 2022 Chronomaster Sport with no date, a glide lock clasp and striking 100th (one-second revolution of chrono seconds hand vs. once every 10 seconds). BOOM! 🤯
@Macm73
@Macm73 3 жыл бұрын
@@ianmichelino9697 maybe, but not in 2022.
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 3 жыл бұрын
Alot don't like date complications on chronographs the dial is already busy look at the best chronographs Omega Speedmaster MW, Daytona, Heuer Carrera,Heuer Autaiva all no date watches and yes there are Carreras and Autaivas with a date complication but they are no where near as popular as the no date versions
@ianmichelino9697
@ianmichelino9697 3 жыл бұрын
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 Correct! With four primary mechanical watches in my monthly wear rotation, I am becoming a fan of no-date watches...Set an iPhone alarm right before the non-running watch is ready to catch local time (AM or PM for no-date watches) and give it a shake or wind to get it running. Nerdy but effective.
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 3 жыл бұрын
@@ianmichelino9697 absolutely 💯 agree 👍 lol. It just isn't necessary on a chronograph like I said the dial is already very busy. The worst date 📅 window is when they put it cutting into the sub dial on the bottom. SO BAD the day watch brand's notice that looks horrible will be a good day
@Thisiswhy1991
@Thisiswhy1991 3 жыл бұрын
"No, it's not a Rolex. It's better..."
@jisezer
@jisezer 2 жыл бұрын
No, no it's not.
@garyzimmerman6367
@garyzimmerman6367 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, it’s much better than a Rolex. Zenith is king. And I love the date complication!
@986C
@986C 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@hayteren
@hayteren 2 жыл бұрын
@@jisezer I'll never understand why people like the adequacy of Rolex. And even loathe that people still go through the trouble and money it takes to get one.
@ax3792
@ax3792 2 жыл бұрын
@@jisezer What do you like better about the Rolex? Like, the actual watch, not the name.
@Eierfeile
@Eierfeile 3 жыл бұрын
Opening that clasp is definitely a pain in the butt sadly, but the rest of the watch is amazing. And for the people asking "Is this a Rolex?" - the simple and best response is "No. Better!"
@tnails2397
@tnails2397 3 жыл бұрын
And I thought I was the only one it's the way the class is so difficult to open. Definitely grabbing it from the side and pulling is the way to go
@mrlong6267
@mrlong6267 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is nicer than the Daytona but I still dig my speedmaster the most…lol
@FS-zn9xe
@FS-zn9xe 3 жыл бұрын
Beside the availability and price, it is actually the fact that Zenith Chronomaster HAS a date function, which in my opinion makes it superior to the all so famous Rolex Daytona. But different strokes for different folks...
@Wrist-rolls
@Wrist-rolls 3 жыл бұрын
Date function is great; date placement is horrific.
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wrist-rolls Nah placement at 4:30 looks interesting to me IMHO
@HSVGEEK
@HSVGEEK 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.... Until you see how the 9 looks in the date window... Absolutely horribly poorly executed. I can't unsee it now and it sticks out terribly. There was a reason Rolex left it out.
@yashwardhanraut2605
@yashwardhanraut2605 3 жыл бұрын
Also generally when we write anything our hand's natural position is perfect for date window to be at 4 30.
@sylinmino
@sylinmino 3 жыл бұрын
@@yashwardhanraut2605 unless you're a lefty like me. Then it's almost always upside down.
@gcswift2
@gcswift2 3 жыл бұрын
14 years ago I inherited a late 70's Daytona, and the fact that no one believes it's real is a bonus. Hardly anyone ever ask "is it real"? Keeping it working gets more expensive every year. And the skyrocketing price of it makes me nervous to wear it. IMHO, there's a value in not being a Rolex.
@bobbydazzler1780
@bobbydazzler1780 3 жыл бұрын
You missed out the rising price of annual insurance. It’s insured, right? If not get on the case. Replacement value insurance is also an embedded cost that nobody ever factors into the ongoing cost of ownership.
@gcswift2
@gcswift2 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbydazzler1780 The insurance on my car is less per year.
@gcswift2
@gcswift2 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomw485 When I first got it I would wear it a lot; now, maybe once or twice a year.
@a2raya83
@a2raya83 3 жыл бұрын
@@gcswift2 in that case, I would put in a bank safe and get as needed insurance when wearing it.
@sameagle988
@sameagle988 3 жыл бұрын
Ask your agent to add a rider to your homeowners instead of insuring it outright. Or you could sell it and still regret it 20 years later.
@j.burgess4459
@j.burgess4459 3 жыл бұрын
Huh? Our host is expressing apparent concern at the idea of having something which is "not a Rolex" but which could be mistaken for such by a colleague.....and yet he says he has just bought a Tudor BB58!? I guess people have been asking him if it's a Submariner?? :-D
@gam88a
@gam88a 3 жыл бұрын
Except a BB doesn’t look like a Sub in any way, except they are both divers 🤦🏻‍♂️
@maocena5993
@maocena5993 3 жыл бұрын
He says the text 1/10th of a second is obscuring the ‘1’ index on the bezel on the chronomaster sport, but there’s a dot instead of a dash that marks the ‘1’ index. It is very legible to me, and makes the narrator sound like a whiny sod having a bad day. He’s the annoying one here, not the flaws he mentioned, no cap. He could’ve mentioned actual flaws on the zenith; here’s a proper flaw: 50m water resistance in 2021.
@gam88a
@gam88a 3 жыл бұрын
@@maocena5993 I think you’ve missed the point he was making. It’s unnecessary. It’s adding text that isn’t required in place of function.
@maocena5993
@maocena5993 3 жыл бұрын
@@gam88a Wrong. A random person might miss the 36000vph written on the dial, and think the watch is 4 hz and conclude that it’s a 1/8th second chrono. Context is everything, just like the text that says tachymeter to ensure you dont mistake it for a telemeter, etc..
@gam88a
@gam88a 3 жыл бұрын
@@maocena5993 sorry I disagree. If people know the watch they’ll know those things. A casual observer “random person” will not read those things, not understand them and not care. A watch person couldn’t really care less about all that text in my opinion. I prefer function over having text that means little.
@vegass04
@vegass04 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly not a single thing mentioned in this video annoys me or had I ever thought about it. Now that I'm aware of these design "mistakes" I love the design of the watch even more.. Its perfect.. The beauty is in the eye of a beholder, as they say. And the "hands guy" is a beholder whose sense of beautiful or ugly is obviously opposite of mine..
@jacobgreenmanedlion1863
@jacobgreenmanedlion1863 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wearing Rolex watches for the past 20 years- a Oyster Precision 6684, an Oyster Precision that looked a lot like an Explorer (it may have been a Franken) and nowadays an Oyster Perpetual 6085 in 18k gold. I think I’ve been asked about them 3 or 4 times total. I also wore a Seagull-powered Alpha watch that was a spitting image in everyway but Text of a Newman Daytona, and nobody said word one about that, either.
@ckm-mkc
@ckm-mkc 3 жыл бұрын
This, no one asks about watches or even notices them, you buy them for yourself.
@tomcraig8027
@tomcraig8027 2 жыл бұрын
Fully agree. I’ve never had a comment on my submariner in the last 10 years and I’m pretty good with that.
@benjaminmyers4117
@benjaminmyers4117 Жыл бұрын
I actually go out of my way to compliment people's watches. I saw some guy with a milgaus recently and told him he had a beautiful watch. That dude looked so happy
@jacobgreenmanedlion1863
@jacobgreenmanedlion1863 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmyers4117 funny thing happened; I bought an Elgin 1911 Sport Chrono in 18k (leather strap version of what sOnny Crocket wore in Miami Vice) with a leather strap- it had been modified to accept spring bars- and I put it on a Vario trench leather Bundt two piece in blue and caramel; I get quite a few comments on that.
@RainHNg
@RainHNg 3 жыл бұрын
"What annoying watch should we poke at next?" The Daytona
@sylinmino
@sylinmino 3 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY 10 videos back in Watchfinder's upload history. Seriously?
@robertsullivan4773
@robertsullivan4773 3 жыл бұрын
I think he did that already.
@sylinmino
@sylinmino 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertsullivan4773 he did. It was super recent too.
@maocena5993
@maocena5993 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertsullivan4773 not without sounding absolutely contradictory in prose here. Praising the zenith in one video, and trashing it for the previously chewed on opposition in another video? Makes it more apparent that the narrator is nothing but a hobbyist richemont pawn with his magnifier, as opposed to a true enthusiast. Just as predictably flawed as nico leonard.
@robertsullivan4773
@robertsullivan4773 3 жыл бұрын
@@maocena5993 No he's not a pawn or shill he works for Richmont he's surprise surprise a salesmen he entertaining us and yes trying to sell watches. I hope he does great at it because I love ❤ the channel.
@LuisOrtizMBA
@LuisOrtizMBA 3 жыл бұрын
The Daytona says "Units Per Hour" on the bezel, which creates a huge gap until you get to the 400 marker. At least the Chronomaster keeps the bezel graduation all the way around the bezel. A lot of chronographs' tachymeter bezels are rated to 1000 units per hour, which means the text on the Daytona's bezel actually takes functionality AWAY from the user to make space for that text.
@Ofenlicht
@Ofenlicht 3 жыл бұрын
But this video isn't about the Daytona?
@LuisOrtizMBA
@LuisOrtizMBA 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ofenlicht that's the comparison they're making
@canpamukcu413
@canpamukcu413 3 жыл бұрын
Be honest guys, who's needs a tachymeter really?
@LuisOrtizMBA
@LuisOrtizMBA 3 жыл бұрын
@@canpamukcu413 It's not just for measuring speed. It can be used to measure the number of times you can do anything in an hour. Start the timer, fold a pair of socks, stop the timer. Boom, you know how many you could fold in an hour. Suddenly everything is a game. 😄
@maocena5993
@maocena5993 3 жыл бұрын
He says the text 1/10th of a second is obscuring the ‘1’ index on the bezel on the chronomaster sport, but there’s a dot instead of a dash that marks the ‘1’ index. It is very legible to me, and makes the narrator sound like a whiny sod having a bad day. He’s the annoying one here, not the flaws he mentioned, no cap. He could’ve mentioned actual flaws on the zenith; here’s a proper flaw: 50m water resistance in 2021.
@ianmichelino9697
@ianmichelino9697 3 жыл бұрын
Hilarious episode!! I’m on the waiting list for one (in black) and such things have crossed my mind. However, if 2020 taught me anything, I no longer GAF about what others think. 😎
@facetiousmonkey5322
@facetiousmonkey5322 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, if you comment on the internet, you care. It's people who do NOT comment who TRULY DGAF. But having said all that, you're getting an awesome watch. Wear it in good health
@ianmichelino9697
@ianmichelino9697 3 жыл бұрын
@@facetiousmonkey5322 LMAO! Quite the chicken-and-the-egg conundrum there Dr. Zaius (my favorite Facetious Monkey 😎): One cannot communicate, no discernible traces of GAF, without actually saying it...Which, as you’ve cleverly pointed out might prove that I actually do GAF. Now I understand gender confusion.
@angelos6817
@angelos6817 3 жыл бұрын
I just got black dial version last week after a 4 month wait. It's impressive and you will will glad you got the black dial. It looks so much better than the white dial version that everyone seems to want.
@lewisdoyle
@lewisdoyle 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you. I own the white version and it's brilliant. Other than residuals, this owns the Daytona.
@angelos6817
@angelos6817 3 жыл бұрын
@@lewisdoyle It's a fine looking watch with a great movement. I love it and would wouldn't mind another Zenith. I like the look of the Revival A384.
@TheTubaEmporer
@TheTubaEmporer 3 жыл бұрын
The A in 1/10 of a second is lined up where the 1 should be. A being the first letter of the alphabet seems like an appropriate albeit uncommon replacement.
@mossy-tube
@mossy-tube 3 жыл бұрын
Good spot, made me think tho.. They could have as easily wrote it as "1/10 of 1 second" and had the same meaning. Lol
@jminkvihubyb
@jminkvihubyb 3 жыл бұрын
@@mossy-tube You better hit them up for a job lol that would've been clever
@bigleemac
@bigleemac 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous watch, the movement is a masterpiece.
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 3 жыл бұрын
Why? Which is better, which is worse?
@je1540
@je1540 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget there are MANY of us who love the fact it’s not a Rolex, don’t want the Rolex attention, and are happy to declare it’s not.
@tristandauod
@tristandauod 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'd take this over a Daytona or an omega aqua terra before a date just. Good thing I can't afford any of em, at the moment😂😭
@st1tch87
@st1tch87 3 жыл бұрын
That's how I feel about the 2 JLC's I have. JLC is a bit of an open secret.
@Ggma8989
@Ggma8989 3 жыл бұрын
This zenith watch is total trash
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 Жыл бұрын
@@Ggma8989 statements with no facts are just wasting air
@lazerbeam608
@lazerbeam608 28 күн бұрын
​@TerenceMa1989 no joke, can you elaborate? I'm contemplating picking one up
@ryanermoody999
@ryanermoody999 3 жыл бұрын
As somebody who owns the white dial Chronomaster Sport, I loved the finger poking in this video and chuckled all the way through. Watches, like people, are never perfect. Sometimes, those faults elevate the watch above what it would’ve been otherwise. And that’s why I’ll patiently and enthusiastically tell the world and its dog an infinite number of times, “No, it’s not a Rolex, it’s a Zenith. Now take a seat…”
@incaseofemergency6051
@incaseofemergency6051 3 жыл бұрын
I think the slightly overlapping subdials are genius. My new favorite watch that's not a Patek.
@stevekent1782
@stevekent1782 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you discus some of the negatives. But I don't like the idea that if something is no the most prestigious brand name you can't be happy with it. Like the channel!
@FilipEric
@FilipEric 3 жыл бұрын
The new Chronomaster Sport is the epitomy of modern Zenith watches.
@sylinmino
@sylinmino 3 жыл бұрын
Hard disagree. It's a hard departure from most of Zenith's design language and I think most other Chronomasters look better.
@SirLoinOfsteak85
@SirLoinOfsteak85 3 жыл бұрын
The Alfa numberplate thing looks cool IMO.
@joelsk7149
@joelsk7149 3 жыл бұрын
This man is throwing pure shade at a proper nice watch and has done so for 10mins, and I’m here for it!
@QuickCarlos
@QuickCarlos 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll bet you’d have a better conversation at a party with someone wearing that Zenith than someone wearing a similar(ish) Daytona .
@angelos6817
@angelos6817 2 жыл бұрын
The Daytona owner will have no idea because he's most likely a douchebag sporting the brand that everybody has been conditioned to want. The Zenith owner will give a you decent chat because he's the watch freak in the room. I ended up buying the back dial version a few months ago and every time I look at it, I know I spent my money well. It's a great addition to my collection which has many vintage Seiko's, Omegas and even one Rolex OP which is a nice watch but nothing fancy for the money.
@mobydick3895
@mobydick3895 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelos6817 In 1999 I bought a Zenith Steel Daytona. I realized afterwards the real game purchasing any luxury item is to spot high design before the rest of the public figures it out. This is not easy!
@Dranreb865
@Dranreb865 Жыл бұрын
@@mobydick3895 looks like a Michael kors to me
@Dranreb865
@Dranreb865 Жыл бұрын
@@angelos6817 now you sound like a douche. Its like you're saying a pagani owner is most likely an idiot compared to someone who drives a gtr on a evo.
@richardbosh4522
@richardbosh4522 Жыл бұрын
You mean the 21 year old kid with shaggy hair and looks like is stoned out of his mind wearing xxl white shirt with the tightes Jean's with white socks and rubber slides iq of a rock with a Rolex Daytona.
@MattZCanada
@MattZCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Screw-down pusher and the lack of date function kills the Daytona for me. The fact that it is not a Rolex is a plus with all the 'wrong' attention nowadays. You don't compliment or start a conversation with a Rolex owner anymore. Tbh people who wear ceramic Rolexes are most likely just there trying to impress people with their 10K MSRP watch, rather than actually appreciating/knowing anything about watches. I would rather spend my money on Zenith/JLC/GS.
@sirus312
@sirus312 3 жыл бұрын
imo just get a watch because you like it or has sentimental value. Case closed lol
@TheOwlGuy777
@TheOwlGuy777 3 жыл бұрын
My Breitling SOHII is impossible to open from the front of the clasp, but the most gentlest of tugs from the back snaps it right open.
@dorkflassbury1164
@dorkflassbury1164 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! I really love watches and Watchfinder videos. They're funny 😄 and entertaining.
@davids9549
@davids9549 3 жыл бұрын
My Zenith El Primero Class Auto (2003 model) has none of these issues - I reckon I'll stick with it!
@rgrau1
@rgrau1 3 жыл бұрын
While I am not a huge fan of '1/10 of of second' written on the bezel, there is a dot signifying the 01, so no big problem there. What is a distraction is, "ROLEX / Oyster Perpetual / Superlative Chronometer / Officially Certified / Cosmograph / Daytona" splattered on the dial, along with Rolex written 10 more times on the inside of the bezel.
@RATBONES8
@RATBONES8 3 жыл бұрын
I own the Stratos Striking tenth with an exhibition back (less than 200 made, before Felix) and still love it. If you are wanting a future high resale, buy a Rolex, if you are fan of great watches with history, buy a Zenith.
@Kilian600
@Kilian600 3 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I bought the Chronomaster 42mm with the date window at the 6. And because it's a classical looking watch, I wear it with a black leather strap.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it seems a bit silly complaining about it being crowded when there’s a bigger dial which is less crowded.
@williamrizzo1285
@williamrizzo1285 3 жыл бұрын
Too each their own, I love the date and location!
@GarryMichaelSmith
@GarryMichaelSmith 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason I want this watch is because it isn’t a Rolex. Plus it’s absolutely stunning!
@bani_niba
@bani_niba 3 жыл бұрын
I love the design. But the unit in the video has an imperfection in the red paint of the second hand and a piece of dust in one of the sub-dials.
@jonl6456
@jonl6456 3 жыл бұрын
That was driving me crazy! I don't always read comments, but I kept scrolling figuring someone had to notice that!!!
@TomJones-tx7pb
@TomJones-tx7pb 2 жыл бұрын
The only time someone mentioned the watch I was wearing, they remarked that it was a cheap watch, not a Rolex. It was a watch I designed and had custom made 30 odd years ago and the only one of its kind in the world. It took me several years of negotiating with a watchmaker to produce it. Subsequently some cheap watches were made with a similar design.
@bobletch7308
@bobletch7308 3 жыл бұрын
Opening that clasp could be a task for the Lockpicking Lawyer ?
@jwdepriest
@jwdepriest 3 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy your comedic remarks throughout your videos. That clasp would be a dealbreaker for me. Thanks for what you do!
@khazelnut
@khazelnut 3 жыл бұрын
Probably just being overly exaggerated about how hard it is to open. Better go try it yourself to decide.
@janihellberg6911
@janihellberg6911 3 жыл бұрын
I never cared for daytona, but I love this. Only thing that makes this similar to daytona is the bezel, you take that of and they are nothing alike. Agree on the clasp though. I will be getting this and I'm hoping people will ask me if it's a daytona, so I can tell them that " no, it's something much better".😊 I feeI I have to say, that I'm not a rolex hater, I own 3 of them, but this is a great watch.
@gothops154
@gothops154 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get how no one is talking about how the old 400 movement was beautifully decorated with cote de Genève and golden gears and blued screws and column wheel (and had jumping chrono minute hand on the subdial) while this 3600 has none of that besides the blue column wheel and the golden main spring. Huge step back in that department. Yes it has 10 more hrs of power reserve and 1/10th sec chrono, but an El Primero is “an event” and the 400 was much more of an event than the 3600
@jordan771
@jordan771 3 жыл бұрын
A beautiful watch that is almost 4x cheaper than the entry level Daytona when purchased in the grey market. I like watches with a Date function.
@drdrew7690
@drdrew7690 Жыл бұрын
Never heard someone complain so much about a beautiful watch
@alphacause
@alphacause 3 жыл бұрын
If I could afford a Zenith, and someone came to me with the question: "Is that a real Rolex?" I would proudly say: "No. It is a far superior watch and its nice to NOT be one of the throngs of people who are more concerned about flexing they have a Rolex, than truly appreciating craftsmanship."
@sylinmino
@sylinmino 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Zenith all you want, calling it far superior to the Daytona is a HUGE stretch lol. The CMS beats it in beat rate and movement decoration and that's it. The Daytona beats it in power reserve, service interval, bracelet, case finishing, material expensiveness (precious metals), lume, and wearability (ergonomics and thinness).
@user-rx9ny4yo2e
@user-rx9ny4yo2e 3 жыл бұрын
If anything you are just as snob as those who you're bashing.
@sylinmino
@sylinmino 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-rx9ny4yo2e yeah at that point they've started fighting snobbery with even more snobbery plus added gatekeeping
@racebannon2332
@racebannon2332 3 жыл бұрын
Ok Santiago, the Rolex Daytona is a far superior timepiece by the preponderance of metrics and has a trick up it’s sleeve…it appreciates & appreciates & appreciates unlike the Zenith. Lol
@oldsnwbrdr
@oldsnwbrdr Жыл бұрын
You should know that quality control seems to be an issue. I lot of people are reporting problems with the minutes subdial. Some owners’ watches indicators are slipping, some are wrongly running at all times, mine doesn’t run at all. At a year of ownership it’s still glorious to look at and I’d love to partner it with a new Defy Skeleton.
@chazzcombs
@chazzcombs 3 жыл бұрын
While I do enjoy these tongue-in-cheek "roasting" type videos, I really wish you'd stop picking watches I own. First the SMP and now the CMS. I guess that means I've picked some good ones.
@ShoxTheRebel
@ShoxTheRebel 3 жыл бұрын
What an awful problem to have haha. Enjoy. Thoroughly jealous.
@JABBERWOCK1977
@JABBERWOCK1977 3 жыл бұрын
The “1/10th of a second” doesn’t obscure what would be “01”. It says exactly what that index represents and from that you infer what the subsequent “02,03,04” etc indices represent.
@shaverray4462
@shaverray4462 3 жыл бұрын
That date window at 4 is indeed a blight on an already busy but interesting dial. That said, it’s still a good looking piece which stands on its own heritage, design and technical merits as well as undoubtably appealing to some of those customers who can’t get a Daytona at retail and can’t, or won’t, pay ludicrous secondary market prices.
@curtbrown7718
@curtbrown7718 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a deep dive into the Heritage line of Longines. There are many wonderful watches in that line. Thank you.
@adrianlivesey4375
@adrianlivesey4375 3 жыл бұрын
Way cooler than any Rolex! Rolex only has the best marketing department, not the best watches, I barely wear mine anymore as it is nice to be different and I will never pay over the odds for any watch!
@bobcat409
@bobcat409 2 жыл бұрын
A beautiful great watch. Congratulations to Zenith.
@matthewkolodziej
@matthewkolodziej 2 жыл бұрын
I like the date. This is an elegant practical tool watch uou can wear every day.
@carlmullender2941
@carlmullender2941 Жыл бұрын
I bought my Chronomaster Open Heart about 4 weeks ago 😃, no horrible date window😂, no black bezel🤣, I think they have made some small adjustments to the clasp as mine seems to work rather well. all in all a beautiful time piece.
@jerrysanchez5453
@jerrysanchez5453 3 жыл бұрын
Everything being said the El primero is one of my dream watches.
@naylinsoe5203
@naylinsoe5203 Жыл бұрын
If the clasp would better when opening I would recommend all of you. But I feel regret about this tricky clasp after buying 😰
@daiksel1
@daiksel1 3 жыл бұрын
Well!!!!! The watches are fine and your opinion in almost 100% of the cases are spot on! I bought my first submariner 35 years ago and it is sill on my hand. My first oyster is on my son’s hand now. But why do I watch these videos? Amazing language and script……. You, you, you, you Good You!
@johndivitto4327
@johndivitto4327 3 жыл бұрын
I’d rather have this Zenith than the Daytona. Gorgeous watch.
@dr.kevinmoore8889
@dr.kevinmoore8889 7 ай бұрын
"You'll be alright with it at first, but at some point you'll snap." Pure gold
@arcadelt5237
@arcadelt5237 3 жыл бұрын
Try opening a Breitling clasp from the other end - trust me, it works!
@Mans1810
@Mans1810 3 жыл бұрын
I first notice a clasp when I saw an oyster clasp on a colleague wrist. OMG that is so beautifully executed.
@CyAnKaLi
@CyAnKaLi 3 жыл бұрын
The clasp is only annoying if you don't know how to use it: Open the bar and then pull on the other side of the clasp or push with the finger nail. Et voilà, it opens super easy. It's a security mechanism that it's hard to open at the bar.
@samirbenchefra
@samirbenchefra 3 жыл бұрын
Found this point not very honest as I tried this watch and clasp opens perfectly
@crparkinson63
@crparkinson63 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love the thought that people would mistake it for a Rolex Daytona, and be smug its superior and I know it and you don't.
@Kr0nicridah
@Kr0nicridah 3 жыл бұрын
What you said frankly sounds quite pretentious
@Ron-zr6se
@Ron-zr6se 3 жыл бұрын
My perspective regarding any watch and not just the Zenith is, if you are worried about someone thinking that your Zenith Chronomaster Sport is a Rolex Daytona, you purchased it for the wrong reason. Since I do not collect or invest in watches, I wear them, personally I could care less what anyone thinks about it.
@barfymann362
@barfymann362 3 жыл бұрын
I've yet to meet someone who actually uses the Chronograph on their Daytona.
@robertsullivan4773
@robertsullivan4773 3 жыл бұрын
First many are in safes and the other reason you can't read the dial it's too small.
@mrlong6267
@mrlong6267 3 жыл бұрын
Some guy recently got his jacked for just taking a nap in a hotel lobby
@facetiousmonkey5322
@facetiousmonkey5322 3 жыл бұрын
Probably as many as those who go diving with their Submariners.
@simonrano8072
@simonrano8072 3 жыл бұрын
screw down pushers are horrendous to use on any chronograph eitheir it is 100 or 10 000 $€£
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonrano8072 JLC enters the chat.
@samuelmartinez3762
@samuelmartinez3762 23 күн бұрын
Left wanting to hear your thoughts on that beautifully adorned movement! What a work if art and a masterpiece of a watch.The Zenith Chronomaster Sport…if you know you know! Done!
@triniboy05
@triniboy05 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I’ve seen this channel be critical about a watch, very much appreciated.
@robertomaas2600
@robertomaas2600 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex AD and fanboy....
@triniboy05
@triniboy05 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertomaas2600 who?
@kimonaggeloutsos9796
@kimonaggeloutsos9796 2 жыл бұрын
I ve just acuired this nice Zennith. I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE CLASP. My 7yo son can open the flip lock easily. If anyone takes a look through your website, and see what watches you have in stock now, then it would be quite easy for him to understand why you are trying to promote the Daytona and not the Chronomaster ;-)
@nymapleleaf
@nymapleleaf 3 жыл бұрын
I don't care what other people think! I purchase something because I like it......
@MrHuang-rh4bj
@MrHuang-rh4bj 3 жыл бұрын
That is the correct way thinking. I own JLC duometre, and my colleague ask me why don’t I buy a Rolex. SMH, cause Rolex is boring.
@kuanmingivanng1925
@kuanmingivanng1925 3 жыл бұрын
I have visited my Ad and informed that using finger nails to open the clasp is not the right way, Simply hold on to both side at the other end (away from the Star clasp) and give it a soft pulland it will open well. . I owned rolex,tudor,omega and only this zenith chronosport. I understand how you are feeling. I have to say, without the right technique, one will seriously think zenith is doing everything wrong (when compare to rolex and Tudor). But if Zenith can improve in its clasp, it will be a benefit for all customers. Hello zenith, you there?
@victorhass
@victorhass 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Not a fan of the Breitling clasps, but the inherently right way to operate them is to pull from the opposite side, opens very easily.
@i60r14
@i60r14 Жыл бұрын
The fact that there is no place on may Alfa Romeo Spider to place the front plate is one of the things I really love of it. The fact that this watch is not a rolex but a ZENITH makes me desire it a lot. When the time comes to buy an El Primero for my collection it will be this one. I like this watch a lot, so I see your 5 annoying facts as a compliment to this superb piece. When we like and love the art and craftsmanship of a time pice, those "flaws" are the glue to makes us love them even more. Ask any Omega Moonwatch owner if they are annoyed by the manual calibre. Thanks for your review, they are knowledgeable and well done, and at the end that is what really matters. The rest is just preferences. Cheers.
@pharmkim244
@pharmkim244 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this watch instead of the hard-to-find Daytona and I'm wearing it well. But it made me want to buy a Daytona more than I used to.
@pharmkim244
@pharmkim244 3 жыл бұрын
I am a chronograph watch enthusiast. So I have new Moon watch, Navitimer, El Primero, Green Monaco and Longines Two Count Master Collection. No Daytona.
@cctc788
@cctc788 3 жыл бұрын
speaking the truth 👍
@nimsahug
@nimsahug 3 жыл бұрын
I had both next to each other. The only thing I didnt like on the Zenith was that the bracelet felt really cheap vs the Daytona. Other than that classy watch
@Ten.to.one.handmade
@Ten.to.one.handmade 3 жыл бұрын
As you’ll see at 2:52 the angle of the watch (as it would be positioned when on wrist) makes the date window very well positioned. You’d know this if you’d bothered to capture an actual wrist shot
@michelcarlos01
@michelcarlos01 3 жыл бұрын
7:13
@Ten.to.one.handmade
@Ten.to.one.handmade 3 жыл бұрын
@@michelcarlos01 I stand corrected. Thanks
@eriksstrickland
@eriksstrickland 3 жыл бұрын
Clasp looks infuriating, but I think homaging the A386 with the overlapped subdials and 4:30 date is a classy move.
@shyamm.r.1897
@shyamm.r.1897 19 күн бұрын
This review is simply Incredible!! Someone please show this to the design team at Zenith, they will never forget this review the rest of their lives! @watchfinder I tip my hat to you 🙌🏼 🙌🏼 🙌🏼
@Reikes2
@Reikes2 3 жыл бұрын
That starting "grainy" effect always makes me pause the video to fix my KZbin quality setting only to remember that it's part of how these Watchfinder videos fade in...
@airportworker_fra
@airportworker_fra 3 жыл бұрын
Great video again that I really enjoyed. And I agree with the points - text on the dial - - date window - and it should have a much better clasp.
@fabfour289
@fabfour289 2 жыл бұрын
If only Zenith drops the date window, it could reduce the thickness a bit, no? Or at least you guys put it at 6 o clock like the previous 42mm version. And again, i know tricolor subdials are kinda Zenith signature.. why don't you guys play around a bit and change the silver subdial to blue like the right one ? Watchgeeks can call it "blue eyes". It s good for better legibility also, i believe. As always, great video from watchfinder. Thanks.
@davidpeterson484
@davidpeterson484 3 жыл бұрын
The date is perfect.
@PAN-km5qk
@PAN-km5qk 6 ай бұрын
It definitely isn’t the right watch for someone who buys a watch to impress others ….. but it definitely is the right watch for someone who knows what matters in life ….. NOT trying to impress strangers by appearance, but being one’s own best version possible. This watch is awesome 😎!!!
@tomw485
@tomw485 2 жыл бұрын
I own the Chronomaster Sport and not a single person has asked me if my watch was a Rolex. The people that don’t know or care about watches will know the brand Rolex but they don’t know what the individual models are. Daytona means nothing to them. Unless you give them a very close look at the watch to see the Rolex logo it won’t even be apparent to them what it is. The people that do know watches will immediately recognize the Zenith tri-color subdials. At worst you might get a snarky “nice Zentona” or “nice Zenith Daytona”. But I’ve yet to get any comments like that either. The constant plight of watch mis-identity that this video claims owners of the Chronomaster Sport will suffer from is just not a thing. It’s a great watch. If you love it buy it. No one else cares so don’t let external perceptions influence your purchasing decisions.
@jscw2
@jscw2 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the visibility. Movement is A+, but the design of sub dials are way below the par from modern UI perspective.
@atsylor5549
@atsylor5549 3 жыл бұрын
Clasp, Date window, overlapping sub dials I don’t care , I still love it.
@scottlalonde2878
@scottlalonde2878 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, Watchfinder, thank you. I don't think any of the things mentioned would annoy me. Next watch? The Panerai Due- the 30 meter water resistant sports watch.
@PhilbyFavourites
@PhilbyFavourites 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! But I have a Casio that does tenths of a second and is by far the more effective watch for my on water life. And with exceptional timing your voice rolls softly with the phrase “Rolex Submariner” - wonderful….. maybe one day…..
@braydencromar
@braydencromar 2 жыл бұрын
“It’s not a Rolex” is the best part about this watch.
@rho16710
@rho16710 3 жыл бұрын
Vesper: You know, former SAS types with easy smiles and expensive watches. Rolex? Bond: Zeenith Vesper: …how annoying
@sskumariyer
@sskumariyer 3 жыл бұрын
Vesper: how bloody god awful! that's a shame.
@tysonwoo8015
@tysonwoo8015 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the date window was strategically placed there so when you lift your wrist up to look at it it would be parallel to the ground?
@williamdillon7708
@williamdillon7708 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I found out that the Rolex Daytona had the Zenith Chronograph Movement under the hood all the way up to 2000, I wanted one.
@falba1492
@falba1492 Жыл бұрын
Love the date at 4:30. It far more ergonomic that way.
@skookapalooza2016
@skookapalooza2016 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see a problem with the date window. However, it would probably look better in the top center of the dial, where "VpH" is located.
@fortylove68
@fortylove68 3 жыл бұрын
Stunning piece. No matter how you slice it.
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