$50 FAKE Bishop Wand Vs. The Real Thing! What Tattoo Machine Is Best?

[@DavidRednour]

In the video you said that you would try to update as to how it’s holding up after some time. I hope that you do this would be great to see. I appreciate your honesty with the review. Always enjoy your videos.

[@Lunaleetattoo]

I’m so grateful for this video. My partner uses a regular machine and does single needle black and grey for the last 25 years. So he’s been hesitant to change to a rotary. We were going to buy the bishop until I found this. And he loves it! It actually works great for what he does! For $50 we are in shock! Thank you so much!

[@noahzimmerman2728]

How's it holding up??

[@noahzimmerman2728]

@lunaleetattoo

[@00Pawko]

Really appreciate the honesty on the review. A lot of KZbinrs would just say it’s garbage because it’s a knock off👍

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Gotta keep it real! I was excited to get it in and say it was trash lol but it surprised me.

[@swervv2957]

@@ThatTattooGuyOfficialthat’s why I just subscribed. Stay true and honest. Keeping it 💯 matters to me and others alike

[@jakecremean9533]

i have a packer and got a different ambition vibe knockoff and honestly it’s a solid little machine, just too top heavy for me to enjoy it as much as the super short packer with critical shorty battery. it tattoos fine though for a tiny price. glad to have it as a backup!

[@RobertKidd-e6c]

What's it like for lines

[@theemclane4037]

This is the videos we want man!!!! Most of us are just starting out with less than %50 to even try this hobby. Sooo many $500 machine videos that doesn't even resonate with viewers

[@bullsheeptattoo]

I just got one and it is an amazing litle thing. Probably the best liner I have at the moment! Sometimes 60$ is what it gets!

[@Sandra.chavez]

Thinking of picking this up as a back up or even just to test out ! Thank you for the review ! Very helpful as always! 🙌🏼

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I was surprised at how much I liked it. Not a bad pick up for sure !

[@adrianruelas1812]

hello, did you get the machine? if so, how was it?

[@Aebl_]

Was waiting to see this review, you did not disappoint, love ur videos bro, every video you make is a banger!

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Glad to hear that! I appreciate the love :)

[@kylepowers1731]

Its funny because the actual bishop liner has different working volts on every website as well. Some say 5.5-7 some say 6-8

[@TampaBayPickers]

Thanks for the honesty! What voltages did you use? Lining, color packing, shading, and stipple...

[@collectionofatoms1876]

My partner is currently going to tattoo school and has been trying a variety of machines. On Tuesday she did a tattoo a black and white tattoo with a Bishop packer, her 3rd tattoo with it. Yesterday she did an identical tattoo on the friend's other arm with a FK Irons Spectra Xion and couldn't get nearly the same quality of small line work with a 3RL, like there was a lot more play on the needle. Ultimately she wasn't able to finish the design in a day and felt like the other machine was tearing up the clients skin way more, especially finding that she had to do 2 passes to achieve the same color packing. It was a frustrating experience for her. She's looking into getting her own machine since the ones at her school are shared and made available for trying a variety of styles. If she could she'd throw down on the packer right now, but $800 is too steep. I just ordered her 2 of these 'Hello' brands based on this video and will report back in later once she's gotten a chance to use them. Much appreciated for your honesty on this, That Tattoo Guy.

[@Joe-v5y1j]

"Tattoo school " lol 😂

[@SindreThePunk]

Tried the Rotaryworks machines? so smooth. more traditional rotarystyle, but the prices and quality is hard to beat

[@Michael-cb3dz]

Awesome review thank you for that and man you are a amazing tattoo artist

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Thank you ! That means a lot !

[@Chad-l4d]

Thank you for this video. I want to buy the Ali”hello” one or the Ambition torped.

[@chrisantusmbuguah3594]

This is where I'm stuck at too..... Do u have both if so which one do u recommend. Wish the tattoo guy would do a comparison of both the torped and the hello coz I can only buy😂talk about being on a budget😂

[@TheOrphanLaboy]

been waiting for this one for a minute, hyped to get it, appreciate the man hours & resource you put in big dog

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Absolutely! Glad you liked it

[@moonravengraphics778]

It's a shame that the original Bishop motor wouldn't fit into the clone body. It would had been a great combo. = )

[@PahelBrunis]

is the knock off still working now?

[@Asume23_Art]

This was a fun video. I was sure you were gonna rip the knock off to pieces but your review surprised me! I still wouldn't buy it just because of the uncertainties of the motor but it's good to know!

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I was excited to say it sucked haha It was surprisingly good. But I agree. Who knows with these

[@69BonZo96]

Maybe do a one year later review ??? V interested in how it held up if u used it again

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I used it for a few months then let my kid use it for those pen carts. It makes funny sounds now bc it was slamming those carts off of a hard table lol

[@chrisantusmbuguah3594]

Was about to write the same but you beat me to it.... I hope @thattattooguy can come through for us

[@deebarnes6433]

Got mine in the mail today excited to try it out after watchin this If its any good ill buy another one and keep em as backups

[@frecia8354]

hi, have you got this from the link in description?

[@sinav.3138]

I definetley didnt expect this 😂..just got the packer a few weeks ago...your Video is a little late 😅...thanks Tyler,always appreciate your honest opinion and you are the reason why i got two amazing machines because of your recommendation and absolutely love them...the avenger 2 pro and the wand Packer. Looking forward to all your upcoming content!

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Haha I think you are prob better off in the long run with the bishop brand tho. Thanks for the encouragement! :)

[@sinav.3138]

@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial jeahh, and the oil slick limited edition looks dope... and dont fool you with hello 😂

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

@@sinav.3138 😂😂😂

[@Dragonslayer_S]

Thank you very much for the video! Does anyone now what are the differences between a coreless motor and a brushless motor? Which one ist beter? Which one is stronger? Which one more durable?

[@valium-fm7236]

Thanks for the honest review ✊🏼🥸👍🏼

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Anytime!

[@44icehouse]

Awesome vid bro!! Thank you for ur honesty!!!😎👍🏻

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Glad you liked it! You’re welcome!

[@christopherwalls2418]

Need to try the Mummy Anubis Wireless Tattoo Pen Machine with Adjustable Stroke Length

[@greenrobot5]

Everytime I get a new tattoo I go home and when it heals I can see missing lines and I want to be able to fix that myself

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

@@greenrobot5 sounds like you need a new artist

[@greenrobot5]

@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial no no, I go to different artists all the time and sometimes they miss lines or they get erased as they heal and I scratch them

[@qwree45]

Great review!! Patiently waiting for the Ava EP10 review 🙌🙌

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

That one should be out next !

[@brunopalomba6852]

We had 2 ep10 at the shop the 2 had issues...

[@slime998]

Ali Express sells a Vlad Blad Avengers pro knock off just like they do that bishop wand knock off. Would be interested to see how it compares, more so how it compares to this knock off as I figure wouldn’t be much of a comparison to the actual Vlad Blad

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I should buy it! Thanks!

[@mr.scaber3018]

Love you honest attitude😊

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I appreciate that :)

[@TATTOOSbyBREEE]

Thanx for your great reviews

[@megpage5392]

Just got this lil knock off, did yours have some sort of cream goo stuff where the cartridges are supposed to go when you got it??

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Yeah, I unscrewed the top and cleaned it all out

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

You can reapply for less noise, but you need to make sure to clean and reapply after every tattoo

[@nicholasramlall6143]

Yo Tyler thanks for the honest opinion on these machines, I recently bought a wjx w500 rotary because it’s a 4mm stroke machine and after spending a few years on the 3.2-3.5 I decided to make the move up, I have been having some trouble with it thow think it’s my power supply which isn’t really making it run smooth, would really appreciate some feedback if you have any knowledge on these machines or a review, bought this machine for larger needle grouping and color packing

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Of corse! Hmm..is your other machines running smoothly still with your power supply ? If they are it’s prob not the power supply. I’ve never tried that machine but if your other machines are running smooth still then it’s a motor issue with the new machine

[@chrissajdik]

Always a lovely review

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Thanks ! :)

[@adrianrivera5612]

I just ordered mine 😅😅😅 I’ve been wanting a dedicated liner so might as well get this one

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Nice!

[@troytrick3325]

$50 vs $650 hmmm + what this man said about it... id honestly try it. I have a dragonhawk raven 2 and i like it despite my first one needing replaced butdragonhawk did replaceit for free and let me keep the original

[@bullsheeptattoo]

Would you say this knock of is a reasonable liner to have? I'm feeling the need of having a liner but I honestly don't want to spend a fortune

[@4lifers981]

Nice video I have an Ambition Solider, its actually very solid as well

[@gabrielbaker5745]

If you can't use the disposible grips is your only choice to autoclave it?

[@cerchiniosimon9466]

I have always heard you talk about large round shaders I’ve never seen larger than 18rs and even that is hard to find can you please review some large rs cartridges and tell us where to buy

[@antipatriarchy]

what do you use in between tattooing. to get the ink off and whipe the area just did work on.

[@Joe-v5y1j]

Can the bishop motor fit if unscrewed and screwed in fake ? Will it fit in the motor slot or is it too thick ????????

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

No you can’t interchange them

[@Joe-v5y1j]

@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial the faulhaber 2607 motor will fit I think, a guy has a video on it I may try that or buy an extra motor amd cam from Ali.. or a peak cam should fit... anyway the machine is smooth as it is though Def a good buy, I got a battery with it for 55.. all u need is a stronger motor and bishop or peak cam and your good to go.. peak sells 2 motors as well wonder if they would fit

[@fortheloveofart5901]

Great review! Thanks

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Thanks :)

[@jameyg1819]

First off thanks for your awesome videos. Just got mine and I'm about to test it out on some fake skin. This is my first time ever with a tattoo machine in my hand. What voltage would you recommend with a 5RL & 11RL for lining, and an 11CM & 15CM for shading and such?

[@IRSFRAUDEXPOSED]

the question is noob . rotary voltage sets motor speed so it depend son your hand speed if your chewing stuff up lower the voltage and find a match

[@jameyg1819]

​@@IRSFRAUDEXPOSEDYeah. I figured that out myself.

[@tattoo.benja1219]

How many rpm does the real liner have?

[@Vasilis1984]

You should really try the ambition torped. Brushless motor, direct drive, changeable cams.

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Everyone keeps telling me about that! I’ll have to check it out

[@leokirves7944]

What needles should i use for the fake machine?

[@eleunameoiggam]

Anybody knows if any disposable grip would fit this machine and if so, which? Thanks

[@Jhost_INK]

Hey hope you having a good day an chance you could you do a review on the new tatsoul Enso cartridges they just came out with

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I’ll definitely be giving them a shot! They look cool

[@reefhuligan1829]

Just wondering if knock off is still banging ? And do you still have same opinions now? Since video is 3 plus months old

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

So far so good !

[@reefhuligan1829]

Good looking out with a quick reply! Appreciate ya

[@JohanB91]

Do you know any good "classic" rotary machines that is good from aliexpress?

[@sushinktattoo1366]

This is not what I expected you to say. Good to know there are alternatives. Time and time again cheep rotary proves well. I must say name brand really matters when it comes to coils. Wouldn’t want to be seen at a convention with “hello” machine lol

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Haha I surprised myself honestly. I think I’ll start testing cheap machines out as well now !

[@troytrick3325]

I ran a double wrapped coil from amazon for 4yrs that was only $12 the only thing i had to replace was the spark plate but i also was running it max speed for an hour straight to see how the motor would hold up and thatwas after 3 years of using it daily lol

[@sushinktattoo1366]

@@troytrick3325 what’s a “double wrapped coil”?

[@DocHolliday69]

​@@troytrick3325coil with motor?

[@IRSFRAUDEXPOSED]

why does it say plug type is EU ? not american standard ?

[@Tat2TankT]

My ambition machine is like a bishop you should check them they aren’t that cheap but still cheaper n you can change your strokes from a 3.5 to a 4 I love it comes with two batteries n they last a few long days check them out you won’t be disappointed thanks for sharing bro 😎

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Oh thats pretty cool ! I’ll have to look for them

[@Medink]

Will the Bishop disposable grips fit it?

[@thesoundguy6657]

Hey man, I was just wondering if you ever found a disposable grip that fits this machine. Love your videos btw

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Hey, I did not unfortunately. And thanks ! Glad you like them

[@gothone100]

@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial Ali Express and Amazon both sell the disposable grips for the Hello and fits others in the Ambition line . I just bought and received a box. Thanks for the video.

[@mikeharpertattoo4789]

Hey Tyler Has the inkclaw code expired now? Didn’t work on the website. Great new video.

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Maybe they deactivated it. I tried to message them about something and they didn’t respond .. maybe they didn’t like soemthing I said ? Lol

[@mikeharpertattoo4789]

@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial oh well worth a try haha

[@VictorMendoza-oz4fz]

What voltage do you run on the real wand for lining

[@vanzmusictv751]

this machine better then peak solice pro..

[@tinovalentine351]

Did you have any trouble with needle cartridges or they all fit good?

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I didn’t have any problems. But I only really used a few brands

[@franciscogarcia3866]

Can you use it with a power supply intead of a battery

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Sure can

[@Lawrenc795]

I will be purchasing this machine next

[@mauricio.d4465]

Español _ responde en inglés yo lo tradusco, la máquina pen hello (fake) es recomendable ?

[@franciscogarcia3866]

Es muy Buena, te la recomomiendo, no se que tanto dure, pero por el precio compra 2 o 3

[@noahzimmerman2728]

UPDATE ON THIS MACHINE?!?!?!?

[@frecia8354]

Hey! Does the machine (from the link you've linked in description) come with battery (yk, this upper part) ?

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

It’s only the machine no battery

[@frecia8354]

@@ThatTattooGuyOfficial thanks!

[@luckey127]

You should compare it to ambition torped

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I’ll have to look into it !

[@The_tattoo_studio]

Loved the torped...... Done a review on it and liked it so much i use daily in the studio 👍👍👍👊👊👊

[@scotti3Dont123]

They aren’t different strokes each color is different motor the black I received was 2710 the gold was a 2707 same stroke different power 👌🏻

[@mrleethecreative]

Thanks ❤

[@terryclarke1]

Anyone know what brand of cartridges fit this wand?

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

All of them should.

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

It’s a universal fit

[@LsToner]

Dont be a brand baby. Ambition has some of the best customer service i have ever worked with. Stop paying over a thousand dollars for a very, very simple machine. Unless you make 200 to 300 k a year tattoong, getting a bishop or critical or a flux should be an after thought. Tattoo equipment is changing big time more afforable options than ever before that are fantastic.

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Brand baby? Lol I think if you watch my channel my opinion on most of these big brands is that a lot of them are too pricey. 1 out of 2 ambition machines I’ve used have malfunctioned within the first 15 mins of using it. This one was fine, but the other one was junk. Not saying these bigger brands don’t have issues.. but I do usually prefer to have some type of name behind the machine I’m buying. That being said.. I’ve used a $12 machine before from Amazon and it was awesome. It’s all a roll of the dice

[@123sofielokate]

@@ThatTattooGuyOfficialdo you have the link of this $12 awesome machine?

[@alexromero9049]

How is that machine,is it still good after a year?

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I ended up letting my kid use it for those pen cartridges. Still runs even tho he rams it into the paper hard. So that’s a good sign lol

[@catchreleasefishing2405]

Is this the ambition soldier?

[@jobethferguson]

Have you ever used Enzo Abyss???

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

No I haven’t

[@jobethferguson]

@That Tattoo Guy okay I was just wondering... I bought one in March spur of the moment after months and months of researching every other machine you can think of and felt like an idiot when I ended up purchasing one I know absolutely nothing about... used it a handful of times and everything was perfect then in the middle of tattooing someone it messed up and stopped pushing the needle... I've watched all your videos and your reviews but I had to ask in case maybe you've used it and just didn't post about it

[@bigaustattoos877]

Very interesting video, I’d always recommend buying and supporting professional/credible tattoo brands. As far as the tattoo you did was that an original design? Just seemed like sketchy line work, maybe a better tattoo example would be more ideal for promoting a knock off.

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I’m not promoting a knock off.. I showed multiple examples of the work I did with it.. the “sketchy line work” is a first sitting of a design I was working on. Lightly putting marks into the skin is how to save the stencil without putting heavy black line work. I agree, like I said at the end of the video.. going with a well known brand is the way to go.

[@Tim-S]

Interesting, I’ve been tattooing for 37years and use coil machines. I buy the cheap Chinese machines 10 for $50. They might need some tuning but hey. At $5 each 🎉😂😂😂. I’ve tried a few rotary’s over the years but haven’t been happy. Probably wasted $2000. I’ve bought expensive coil machines too but the cheapies do just as good a job if set up properly and last just as long. My hands are feeling it now though and I’m thinking I might try again. Perhaps I’ll give this a go.

[@carrieburgener944]

I've been tattooing for 17 years, and I am also loyal to my coil machines as well. And like you, I found that I can get the exact same results with a $10 machine as a $500 machine. I've got the patience and the ear to fine tune or desk with the inconsistencies. I will say that i do favor my Micky Sharpz though. But like you, my hands are starting to feel it badly. I'm actually going to try this machine out though and I'll report back with my thoughts on it.

[@moreno1391moreno]

If you put a FAULHABER SR2607 motor in this machine, you would have a wand machine because that’s your motor, for $65 and the price of the machine 😉. The machine have the space for this motor

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Hmmmm great thinking !

[@swervv2957]

I thought it didn’t fit? Man if that’s the case I’m go head and do that instead of having to pay so much for the wand

[@wilsonmaingrette715]

Can it be bought on Amazon?

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I found it on Ali express I didn’t check Amazon

[@dominickwilkes2662]

Thanks for that.

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

You’re welcome !

[@Carlovbasic]

Man , You're Master. Cheers. For now I've just stop using this fake bishop, My daughter uses on fake skin. PS.For Stippling, I've make my own Tattoo machines.Rottary on Brass Frame.

[@cameronbrooks8255]

excellent...

[@cheddarcheese8945]

Click grips a better by far ,they dont move

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Neither does the smooth grip. This click grip is pretty difficult to twist.

[@jrvega9559]

Tyler I just bought both of these based on your video. I know you recommend the EP7 but have you ever tried the 3.5 stroke. If so how do you feel towards it? I’m on the market for a good shader. Any suggestions?

[@skinscribe]

I feel like just because it works well now is not a great metric to go by for what constitutes a good machine. The cheapness shows not as much when it’s brand new but when it’s been used for years and years. There’s no quality control with those machines so who knows if you get one that works or doesn’t, and if it doesn’t work, then you just have to throw it away bc you can’t send it in for repairs. I feel like that’s a very cheap and wasteful approach to take, and it’s much more efficient to buy something that you know will last. Machines aren’t meant to be gone thru every single year, they should last you years and years and be serviceable. I’d rather buy a machine made by people in the industry who care about the industry, not some fast fashion cash grab repo, that just doesn’t sit right with me.. I get that money is a factor but a bishop machine isn’t even that expensive for a tattoo artists wages, why not invest in yourself and your own industry?

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I agree. That’s basically what I said at the end of the video in so many words.

[@romymadeinromy100]

io ho acquistato una bishop wand liner e dopo 2 anni il motore ha cessato di funzionare, dopo due anni nessuna garanzia e per riparare il motore mi hanno chiesto 400 euro, questo per dirti che anche una gran macchina col tempo puo' lasciarti a piedi.

[@blackforestforge3391]

I bought it after your rewiev. Made so far one tattoo, machine is really good! Now i'm starting to regret buyingoriginal Bishop machine xD

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Haha well I’m glad it’s working well for you

[@Thirdfish]

Where did you get the fake machine from, got a link please?

[@jameyg1819]

Thanks man. I just ordered one of these. What carts were you using in these tests and is that the shorty critical? I’ve been wanting to try criticals.

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I use fyt mostly. That’s just the regular critical battery.

[@ronking665]

I have both, and tbh, the clone is a better machine 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@dominickwilkes2662]

Where’s the link to the machine

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Just go on Ali express and type in bishop wand tattoo machine and it will come up.

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

@@moonravengraphics778 US $50.36 53％ Off | AMBITION Rotary Tattoo Pen Machine Coreless Motor Stroke 4.0 mm For Body Art a.aliexpress.com/_msLJGmo

[@dominickwilkes2662]

Welp I got the wrong one. Mines is a trex machine

[@dominickwilkes2662]

Ambition makes pretty decent machines so I understand, but I bought the same loook but not the same company

[@moonravengraphics778]

@@dominickwilkes2662 They are all the same - don't worry about it = ) Ambition, Xnet, TRex, Hellotattoo etc. sell the exact same machine.

[@Akshobhoyo]

Had one of these about 6 months now - bought it on a whim just to see how it compares. I use it regularly, and it is awesome. Better than some machines I've spent way more on. Really love the recessed RCA.

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

For sure I agree. I now want to see how long it will last

[@badhanchakraborty4212]

Do you use it on human skin ?? How does it work??

[@jackfaciale]

and after a year :) ? just curious ! and what about big needles 14RL etc thanks !

[@Akshobhoyo]

@@jackfaciale Still running strong brother! Good power supply and you're off to the races. Can still push 14RL very well, higher stroke helps with that.

[@jackfaciale]

@@Akshobhoyoby good power supply you mean critical I guess ?😅 Or you found another knock off ? Do you remember how many hours in a session this one can endure?

[@subwooferroads]

The 50 dollar wins 😂

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Lol

[@pericodesign1679]

The ambition torped on Amazon is the same one but it comes in 4, 4.5, 5mm stroke it’s $70 or $80

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Oh no way.. I’ll have to check it out

[@The_tattoo_studio]

I just done a review on the torped..... and gotta say i loved this machine using 4.5mm stroke now been using daily in the studio 👍👍🙌

[@swervv2957]

@@The_tattoo_studiowhich machine exactly are you referring to?

[@The_tattoo_studio]

@@swervv2957 the machine we are on about is the Torped made by Ambition 👍

[@chrisantusmbuguah3594]

​@@ThatTattooGuyOfficialplease do. Currently caught up between this and the torped. You actually confused me man😂😂

[@olegbarth928]

I think they have build a new version of it called the ambition torped. Its brushless now and you can get it with 4,5 and 5mm.

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

Oooh I’ll have to give it a look!

[@lovenrayenomar3074]

Hope you'll have a flux max knock off reviews..

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

I’ve been going through all the different knock offs recently and that was one I found. :)

[@Richiebones]

Hey brother I have the knock off machine what fo you set it at when lining

[@eleunameoiggam]

Anybody knows if any disposable grip would fit this machine and if so, which? Thanks

[@ThatTattooGuyOfficial]

No disposable fit

[@Lunaleetattoo]

Does anyone have any cartridges to recommend for single needle tattoos?