500 Gallons In 55 Seconds...

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Mike Pertz

Mike Pertz

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@mike_pertz
@mike_pertz 2 жыл бұрын
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@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 2 жыл бұрын
Often also referred to as "monitors". I don't recall hearing the term "master stream" prior, but it appears that it refers to devices delivering 350gph or more regardless of the method of employment where "monitor" refers to the employment of the device regardless of flow. Good to know, thanks for posting this!
@EternalResonance
@EternalResonance 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the guy in the blue jacket the only one who is actually rushing? Everyone else is walking like there's no emergency. Carpenters making a new home work faster than that. Some sprint on every walk
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 2 жыл бұрын
@@EternalResonance Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. You trip with a bottle on your back, slam yourself in the ground, now you're five seconds behind where you would have been if you'd have just taken your time.
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 2 жыл бұрын
I could overhear someone saying there were people trapped inside. Do you know if the people were rescued?
@The-White-Tigers
@The-White-Tigers 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what u call a real fire 🔥
@elultimo102
@elultimo102 2 жыл бұрын
As someone with no background in firefighting, I was surprised to learn that the old horse drawn steam fire engines could pump 600 GPM. I find that impressive for 100 years ago, considering that a modern engine is good for little more than double----the pressure notwithstanding.
@cgi2002
@cgi2002 2 жыл бұрын
Modern engines tend to be limited to 600-1200 GMP, as more isn't really needed and causes water supply issues. You could fit a 5000GPM pump on a large engine, but when your only carrying 2000G, and the supply lines from the hydrants can't keep up with much more than a few hundred GMP, theres simply no point. Also you need to be able to control the line, more water means more effort to control the line, and its already extremely difficult, making it harder can rapidly result in injuries, exhaustion or even a lose line which is extremely dangerous. Even fire fighting boats tend to be limited to around 1200GMP per pump (they carry several) because more volume has deminishing returns beyond a certain point, and control can become an issue still even on a fixed platform. All that said, those old horse drawn engines were really impressive for their time, but they had a core issue of 600GPM and often only a 600G tank meant they drained themselves far too quickly to be useful without a secondary supply. Often they'd not run at even close to 600GPM, since endurance is vital.
@Joefresh111
@Joefresh111 2 жыл бұрын
Brah I just realized in some riot they used firetrucks and water 😳
@FlygisTheFlygis
@FlygisTheFlygis 2 жыл бұрын
What does notwithstanding mean? Google says it’s sort of like “nevertheless”. Regardless which word class is right, it doesn’t make sense. “It’s impressive that 100 years ago could do x figure since today we can do roughly double - the pressure nevertheless” wut?
@cgi2002
@cgi2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlygisTheFlygis similar meaning, but not quite the same, but even with nevertheless that sentence does still make sense to me. It's an abstract word choice.
@elultimo102
@elultimo102 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlygisTheFlygis ---It was late. I meant that modern pumps would likely be capable of higher pressures and be able to spray a greater distance, than those of 100 years ago. Better???
@CDFCaptain93
@CDFCaptain93 2 жыл бұрын
Arrived at a structure fire where the structure of origin was totally involved, and we already had fire into exposures on the B and D sides. We were only a two-person engine Company with the second due engine 15 minutes out. The third due engine was 35 minutes out. We elected to lay in from the corner hydrant. Fire was three lots from the corner. I spotted the engine just past the main origin structure and in front of the exposure on the B side. I clamped the 5 inch supply allowing the FF to charge the hydrant. We had a large amount of fire so I opted to go deck gun to see if we could knock it down a bit. As soon as the firefighter made it back to the engine, I told him to go up top and man the deck gun. I charged it with tank water and completed the supply line hook up. It only took a minute, but we had a significant knock down for the structure of origin. Fire had made its way into the attic of the B exposure but by sheer luck we lined up perfectly with the attic vent and the firefighter shot it out with the deck gun and eliminated the fire in the attic in just seconds. By the time the second due engine arrived, we had the main fire knocked down, the fire in exposure B knocked down and the fire in exposure D knocked down (window curtains). So yes, in the right circumstance and with good training, the deck gun can be your friend.
@JB91710
@JB91710 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Common Sense and Logic Firefighting. You are now members of the 5% Club. That's how many departments actually know what their job is.
@jeancolinplummer3547
@jeancolinplummer3547 2 жыл бұрын
Far, FAR too much time elapsed between arrival and getting water on the job.
@Accepts1
@Accepts1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeancolinplummer3547 lol ur joking right
@Bagels24
@Bagels24 2 жыл бұрын
Jean, I bet it takes you longer to get your groceries out of the car and in the house than it did for them to get hoses hooked up and water flowing.
@UploaderNine
@UploaderNine 2 жыл бұрын
2 man Engine. Must be a jolly volly.
@CountryBoy1069
@CountryBoy1069 2 жыл бұрын
I love it. This is a prime example of putting the wet stuff on the red stuff. Good job guys. Very professional.
@vladiiidracula235
@vladiiidracula235 2 жыл бұрын
@jack mehoff 🤨
@FlygisTheFlygis
@FlygisTheFlygis 2 жыл бұрын
You’re not commenting on the firefighters youtube channel. You’re watching a commentary from an uninvolved third party
@CountryBoy1069
@CountryBoy1069 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlygisTheFlygis Who cares. They are still putting the wet stuff on the red stuff and did a damn good job doing it too. I don't care who shows it as long as they get recognized for doing a good job.
@FlygisTheFlygis
@FlygisTheFlygis 2 жыл бұрын
@@CountryBoy1069 indeed they did a fantastic job driving parking and aiming with a joystick. never seen such masterful joystick maneuvering before. surely they thought they had done a terrible job clicking buttons and using joystick before you commended them
@mckjohn654
@mckjohn654 2 жыл бұрын
But is water wet?
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley 2 жыл бұрын
We used to have a great response time with water on the fire when I was leading Caney Branch Vol fire department. We had a 2,400 gallon tanker that had a PTO pump with two 1.5 lines each side that could be pulled off in seconds. We would have water on the fire before the truck stopped rolling. However a know it all chief took over and now it takes them about 5 minutes to set up drop tanks and prime the separate pumper. All the chief cares about is putting on a big show. I don't think they have saved a single structure since I left. We used to be able to save single wide mobile homes.
@steve7730
@steve7730 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was in the Three River Volunteer Department, same thing happened, after 31 years I quit, due to a chief who felt it was his way or the highway, had no structural training at all, only industrial, and the really got good at saving the water meter, it was hard to walk away, it was a no win scenario
@dannyharris1322
@dannyharris1322 2 жыл бұрын
Geezer 💀🇬🇧
@curiousnomadic
@curiousnomadic 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh geezus. Anything you can do to get that chief removed? What I really hate is when firefighters just sit and watch a house burn, like in Detroit where there is no shortage of water.
@connormckibben5986
@connormckibben5986 2 жыл бұрын
@@steve7730 Cheers from Jeff Co. Fire & EMS.
@steve7730
@steve7730 2 жыл бұрын
@@connormckibben5986 thanks. Connor, I really miss the Fire Service, soooo many Good People, several of my cousins in Boston Mass, made a carrier in the Fire Service, I believe what I miss is the abilities to help other people when their need arises, now, I see the old department still out saving the water meters and mineral rights, sad, but the same old gang of idiots at city hall and as far as fire chiefs, nothing has changed, I think the less they know the better the mayor likes it?
@RobertMorgan
@RobertMorgan 2 жыл бұрын
As an operator of a water treatment plant in a municipality, I can say a major point of failure in fire safety is not training your supply personnel with your fire personnel. I cannot count the number of times I've had a large in-system fire that I had to hear about on the news or facebook, while the fire crew is struggling for water supply. IDEALLY your next call after paging out fire response should be to contact your water supply to ramp up production. We put in a fire/ems radio scanner so that when we hear our system's dept respond to a accident or structure fire, we automatically go into emergency max production mode no matter what, until we hear the 'released from scene' call. It's a great feeling (but also worrisome) to get a call an hour into a fire from an official that's heard it 5th hand that FD needs more water, and I can say 'We went to max production 55 minutes ago, we're supplying 1500gpm to the system, and we can hold that pace basically indefinitely, for about 18-20 hours straight if needed. When minutes count we don't wait, and there's no such thing as 'excess or extra water' it ALL gets used.
@stuartkidney3257
@stuartkidney3257 Жыл бұрын
send that secondary pumper no later than the 2nd Alarm!
@Caderic
@Caderic Жыл бұрын
Do y'all have water towers in your system/network?
@red55chief
@red55chief 2 жыл бұрын
I had my (4-person) crew practice a similar evolution, just in case we had one of those ever-increasing HIRF calls. ( Hi Intensity Residential Fire). You come down the street and find the source structure heavily involved with the exposures just lighting up or severely threatened. We laid in our 130mm (5”) supply line , and while that was being hooked up, one FF pulled a 65mm (2.5”) preconnect to protect the upwind exposure. The engineer or officer pulled a Blitzfire and stretched it to protect the downwind exposure. The engineer provided water to the downwind exposure line first. Once the hydrant water came through. The other line was charged and the deck gun was directed at the source structure. The officer - me - controlled the deck gun and had a hand free to radio the incoming companies their assignments. Once the hydrant was established, the hydrant person completed the 360 survey , reported in and then went to the Blitzfire. We started out at about eleven minutes on our first try, and had it down to just over three minutes. Everyone on the crew switched places and we did it over and over again.
@eastonkeeton5370
@eastonkeeton5370 2 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of a Blitzfire although I love the name, is it similar to American 1 3/4 inch handlines?
@jared1718
@jared1718 2 жыл бұрын
@@eastonkeeton5370 we use them here in America as well, it’s a portable ground monitor, I think Blitzfire is the brand name, that’s what we call them in my department as well
@Jp_1984
@Jp_1984 2 жыл бұрын
Needs more More deck guns
@ReconnaissanceLime
@ReconnaissanceLime 2 жыл бұрын
I sure wish I spoke firefighter
@laserlobotomy
@laserlobotomy 2 жыл бұрын
Cool story bro.
@puirYorick
@puirYorick 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see any response on YT where they get water going on the flames quickly and nobody was standing around *just watching* and wondering. Each member seemed to have a specific task and got straight to it as boots hit the ground. 👍🏻
@michaelwalker3920
@michaelwalker3920 2 жыл бұрын
Some sage wisdom given to me years ago about using the deck and getting the most out of your tank water. Rev up the RPMs before you open the valve. That way the water comes right out and on target instead of drizzling on the ground while you rev up the RPMs.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
Walker 🦃
@firefighterpk2440
@firefighterpk2440 2 жыл бұрын
@Insert name here: na, make sure the tank to pump is open and the pump is " wet", could crack the tank dill valve to get any air out of the pump............idle up and open the monitor. That's how we do it anyway, only takes a few seconds
@sunshinefireboulder
@sunshinefireboulder 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. It can take 50-75gallons of water "drizzling" out before it reaches the target if your RPM"s aren't already up. Especially with the older auto-control modules.
@JimT225
@JimT225 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, excellent video and lesson. I've been pushing for these tactics for years! Thank you. It's painful for me to see a master stream shooting over a structure fire at 45 degrees. This happened to us when the FF i assigned to operate the deck gun wasn't familiar with how to get it lower. Train, train, train!
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
Jim 👋
@zonacrocone4804
@zonacrocone4804 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best responses I have seen by American firefighters. Having been trained in Europe, I always wondered why American brothers and sisters often are so hesitant to put water on the fire as quickly as possible. It always had been our approach. It works!
@SilverSmrfr
@SilverSmrfr 2 жыл бұрын
I guess its because of the proximity of the buildings. Over here in Europe where most houses are build close together, the chances of the fire expanding to another house are much higher than in the US where houses are a few meters apart most of the time.
@sigsauer_firearms
@sigsauer_firearms 2 жыл бұрын
Smoke, when you put out a fire theres more smoke meaning more risk of anyone inside inhaling the smoke
@FurryWrecker911
@FurryWrecker911 2 жыл бұрын
Steam burns are what I was taught. You flood a house with water it turns the entire structure into a scalding hot steam box. If you have anyone trapped inside you will cook them alive. Again, that's what I was told. I have no idea if there's any merit to that. Could be a total myth for all I know.
@nettephar6402
@nettephar6402 2 жыл бұрын
@@SilverSmrfr all of europe isnt the same gotta specify a bit more my guy
@whyjnot420
@whyjnot420 2 жыл бұрын
@@nettephar6402 Fun fact, the average population density of the EU (as a whole) is ~20% greater than that of the US. Sure 20% more people in the same amount of space does not mean 20% more buildings and the EU != Europe. But it is some good food for thought.
@j.landismartin5397
@j.landismartin5397 2 жыл бұрын
Master streams are among the most under-utilized pieces of equipment in the fire service. In the right circumstances, they can be the most effective tool in the firefighters tool box. When I was a company officer, we used the deck gun numerous times. On a detached storage building, on a large tree fire, on a brush fire, on a fully involved large SUV fire and several times on dumpster fires. All were unique situations best handled by rapid delivery of a large volume of water while protecting my crew from a specific hazard or preventing an expansion of the incident. No better way than a deck gun, IMHO.
@dasy2k1
@dasy2k1 2 жыл бұрын
Can you flow foam through a deck gun? Sounds like it would be ideal for large goods vehicle diesel fires!
@kyledodson2992
@kyledodson2992 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a marine corps vet, police vet, and now live a quiet life in accounting. I’m just getting into the world of fire fighters and MAN. Wow. Y’all have some crazy days. Just subbed and look forward to nerding out over FF stuff. Don’t know why I waited this long. Stuff is tactical AF. Love it sir
@olivermills8736
@olivermills8736 2 жыл бұрын
most definitely, the tactics and speed are definitely fun
@tnzayatz6579
@tnzayatz6579 2 жыл бұрын
Deck gun worked really well but I am truly impressed by the 2 1/2” hand line pulled off the hose bed instead of the Pavlov’s dog response of getting an 1 3/4” for everything regardless of size/type of fire.
@chucknorris3984
@chucknorris3984 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. It's absolutely insane watching the "we've always done it this way professionals" lose so many places because the fire outruns them. It's not rocket science. But then again look at the mentality of people today. Dumb and violent.
@JB91710
@JB91710 2 жыл бұрын
It's tough to conserve water and perform a surgical application with a 2.5" line. A 1.75" line with the proper adjustment of the nozzle can handle most residential fires and you can take it inside.
@rpbajb
@rpbajb 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80's I rolled on a house fire with two other men, the president of our volunteer department (an older man not well trained) and the chief of police. No deck guns then, so per my training, I started getting the 2 1/2 charged. But the police chief yelled for the inch-and-a-half preconnect, so we charged it and he attacked. And he knocked it down! The fire involved the living room, it had vented through the front windows, and the porch roof was fully involved, but he stopped it cold with less than 500 gallons. If we had delayed while getting the 2 1/2 into action, we might have lost the house.
@JB91710
@JB91710 2 жыл бұрын
@@rpbajb He may have had 500 to work with but he probably did the job with 100 or less. "The Deck Gun will run the tank dry in one minute." Yes but, the fire can be knocked down in 20 seconds if the water is applied correctly. It hardly ever is.
@rpbajb
@rpbajb 2 жыл бұрын
@@JB91710 Deck guns look to be a definite improvement. I've been out of the service for years, I haven't actually seen one yet. Are they new? They're derived from airport equipment, right?
@chief1945
@chief1945 2 жыл бұрын
This crew did one hell of a job, excellent! Must have been well trained and done this a few times in the past. Smart on the 2-1/2-inch handline being pulled and the driver backing his tank up quickly with the hydrant line, great moves guys! I was a fire Chief from 1980 to 1993 in a combination dept. I had my guys practice the 'blitz attack' as it was known then. Lead off with the deck gun and pull and make ready a handline or two, driver pull a supply line to a hydrant, if one was nearby, and all with a limited crew, usually 3 or 4 guys. Our attack engine carried 1,250 water, 1250 Hale Q pump and a 4" deck gun, we also had large commercial building in our district hence the big water gun. (Note: the piping from tank to pump is crucial for the GPM flow if you plan to use this a lot. Know that flow, do a test if you need to find out. The apparatus builders use to run 2-1/2-inch pipe with a 2-inch valve and a bunch of 90's in the plumbing, not good and resulted in a crappy flow. I specked my rigs with a 3" and 4" T to P on the first due engine and my tanker had two 4-inch T to P lines. We also carried 110 gallons of AFFF for the highways we covered hence the need for large tank flows). Anyway, now don't go saying yeah you had plenty of water, yes and no ... our second due carried only 500 and a 1000 gpm pump and we drilled with that rig. At times, that became our first due. With that said, also the pump operator must know the water sources nearby, the rig and its limitations ...they can't fake it here. Later on, we specked and purchased a 2500 gal tanker, that had a 2000gpm Hale Q pump. Our district was covered by hydrants for 1/3 of the area and the balance was a 'bring your own water'. The district was about 9+ sq miles. Training ... I had my crews pull up, go in service and 'knock down the bulk of the fire' with the gun then switch to handlines. If you are trained well, your deck gun operator will tell the pump operator to shut the gun down when the bulk of the fire is darkened down. You would be amazed as to how much fire even 250 gallons in 30 seconds properly placed can knock down if used correctly and not wasted on smoke. In my term as Fire Chief, we used this several times with outstanding results but always, always had some type of preplanned water supply options in place. I had 0ver 10,000 gallons on wheels in the first alarm assignment counting automatic MA and 30,000 plus on the second alarm which brought a county tanker task force. Drafting points were preestablished which worked out well also. The instructor is correct, make sure you have a water supply nearby or have it on wheels on the way especially as an automatic MA. Keep in mind, you and your crew(s) must be proficient to make this work properly and know when to and not to use it. Chief 19 Sta. 19 and City of Trenton FD Ladder 2-B. Atay safe my brothers!
@JB91710
@JB91710 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't take a lot of experience or training to know that you find what's burning and put the quickest and most effective water on it. It just takes a strong work ethic and some common sense. People don't understand that it only takes a few seconds of well-placed Deck Gun water to knock down Visible Burning Material. They think that once you turn it on, you can't turn it off and the tank will run dry in one minute.
@MrFlathead45
@MrFlathead45 2 жыл бұрын
I am not part of the fire dept, but, we have a very well trained fire fighting crew here in Beaver Dam. I remember this fire and was amazed at how quickly they were in and out. Not bad for a small town of 10,000 people.
@BIFFBAKER100
@BIFFBAKER100 2 жыл бұрын
That's basic stuff, not sure anybody should be impressed with that. I think the driver looks like he don't have a bloody clue what he's doing.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
@@BIFFBAKER100 Paul 😌
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrFlathead45 👋
@nebraskaninkansas347
@nebraskaninkansas347 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video to help explain how firefighters use of differant equipment and tactics. I've seen so many comments on other videos that say just use the deck gun. But here you have explained very well why it may not always be the best idea.
@trvman1
@trvman1 2 жыл бұрын
and even after seeing this video. Fire Departments all across the country will continue to pull hand lines and not use the deck gun. There just seems to be something/some reason why departments (paid) ones don't use the deck gun. Even when they have a quick water supply like this one had and no one is inside the building. You see video after video after video when the deck gun would have knocked the fire down quickly. Yet they don't use it.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
@@trvman1 TRVMan 👅
@virgilhilts3924
@virgilhilts3924 2 жыл бұрын
It needs to be said that one of the main reasons this worked do well is that it was primarily the porch that was burning, in other words it was accessible to the stream. I see many here shout "Just use a deck gun!" on interior fires where much of the fire is inaccessible to the stream. When fire is rolling out of more than one side of a structure, a deck gun isn't going to be anywhere near as effective if at all. Same thing when a roof is involved, if a fire is boiling in the attic and already self vented, dumping a bunch of water onto the roof or even in the hole is quite inefficient.
@JB91710
@JB91710 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on the situation, any water to slow down combustion is better than taking a FEW MINUTES to do it surgically. Something 95% of USA departments are incapable of understanding anyway.
@virgilhilts3924
@virgilhilts3924 2 жыл бұрын
@@JB91710 I rather enjoy knowing how sad and empty you feel inside every time you see an engine roaring by... roof lit up and siren wailing... knowing you will NEVER become a real firefighter. ☺
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 2 жыл бұрын
well, yeah, if you have the aim to actually hit the fire instead of the uninvolved part of the structure, it works better. I once saw a truckie literally blow the fire out of the opposite side of a condo unit and take the scene from losing ground to mop-up in seconds.
@robertrainey5307
@robertrainey5307 2 жыл бұрын
I know that if you properly aim the large caliber stream device it will dramatically reduce the fire where ever. A Tower Ladder used properly is even better as you can move the stream to hit even more fire. Capt. Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 Retired
@virgilhilts3924
@virgilhilts3924 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertrainey5307 There is no "where ever" when you are limited by openings... which was my entire point Blowing water through a living room window isn't going to help much when the fire is in an opposite rear corner bedroom Which is why I specifically stated what I did about this fire being accessible is what made it work well All the pretend FFs here shout "They should have used a deck gun" on pretty much everything When they clearly do not have a clue
@jdaz5462
@jdaz5462 2 жыл бұрын
It's too bad that the comments are turned off on the original video because these guys deserve praise. There are so many bad firefighting videos on KZbin. This isn't one of them.
@richardgray115
@richardgray115 2 жыл бұрын
We called them roof monitors in the Namibian airforce fire department. Very effective. Only difference is we had 2 minutes from alarm to get out on the runway and first sprays going. That includes getting airbrakes released and grabbing helmets and jackets and assembling crews to vehicles. We had Oshkosh 6x6 and Chubb Pathfinder 6800litres per minute. Fun times 1987/88. The fire fighting here was good, but the manpower seemed slow and a bit tardy. I do t know maybe airport situations are just a lot more urgent.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
Gray 👋
@rebeccab1527
@rebeccab1527 2 жыл бұрын
I would think that airport ff's have the benefit of fighting on their own turf -- you already know the runways, your possible approaches and exposures, you know where water supply is coming from, and the mix of challenges presented by an aircraft at your location. Also few problems with traffic or civilians. You are able to put speed first (and airport teams are amazing to watch in action, even in training). However when you're arriving on an unknown structure, you have no idea what you're getting into -- you have to figure out all those things and trying to skip any of it can mean people get hurt or killed. It's just a different beast. I'm very rural and we do mostly farm fires, which are different again (a cross between structural and wildland, with some industrial dangers thrown in). I really find it interesting to see how different crews handle things, and and its also interesting how much different things can be 😊
@richardgray115
@richardgray115 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebeccab1527 what you have said I agree with in principle, but when I look at the movement speed of arms and legs and often the fidgeting that occurs before the attack occurs, I get disheartened. Incidentally, airports also have issues with civilians. If a plane crashes and it's a hard crash they can be people spread out all over. A couple of years ago, a person fleeing the plane wreck was killed by the approaching fire truck. Always watch for people hanging about even for a few seconds, it all matters
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 2 жыл бұрын
Same in Northern Canada.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
@@wilfdarr Hey 👋 🤨
@WhiskeyGulf71
@WhiskeyGulf71 2 жыл бұрын
That was by far the most impressive attack on a fire that i have ever seen from a US fire crew.
@Tiddyliterature
@Tiddyliterature 2 жыл бұрын
You haven’t seen that many then
@Objectified
@Objectified 9 ай бұрын
Yay, always has to be some "America sucks and is backward and inferior" ignorance in these threads.
@ffjsb
@ffjsb 2 жыл бұрын
Something you didn't mention is that most engines are only capable of pumping 500gpm from the tank because of the size of the tank to pump line. And running out of water temporarily is not always a bad thing, it gives you a few minutes to get your water supply established. They knocked down the bulk of the radiant heat that would've affected any exposures, and greatly stopped the spread of the fire and reset it. That gave them time to get hand lines in place and make an interior attack.
@user-tr2dh4xx6u
@user-tr2dh4xx6u Жыл бұрын
yeah but if the hydrant in broken then what?
@ffjsb
@ffjsb Жыл бұрын
@@user-tr2dh4xx6u You go to the next hydrant... That's why they're usually 300-500' apart in towns and cities. And that's why most fire engines carry at least 1,000' of supply line. You use tank water until you get a hydrant. And that's why you're supposed to check hydrants at least once a year.
@robertborchert932
@robertborchert932 2 жыл бұрын
Using the deck gun is a lost art, I feel. In routine training operations in my agency, the firefighters had a crosslay pair of preconnects, 150 and 250 feet, with nozzles and 1 3/4 hose. Those "in the trade" share my understanding, every fire scene is different. Well, I took advantage of this in training my crew. My mantra, "let's play". The key to being a successful firefighter is having as many tools in the toolbox as you can. Simply, I encouraged letting them discover the limitations of the equipment. Truth, in a standard training evolution, all you are doing is "checking the boxes" in terms of tasks. A real fire is hardly a standard evolution. Think about this, brothers. When shit goes wrong, you REVERT to your training. You don't think, you simply do your best. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, hopefully, your training will be your guide. Thus, I expanded the training. As a reserve captain, I had a simple luxury...well, I had several. I did not have a crew of three, I had 12 on an average response, and a roster just under 30. Eyes bugging out? Perfect. I was a Brush Monkey. Proudly so. Helitack. Crew bus. Spoons, Pulaskis, Brush Hooks, Chainsaws, Macleods. Oh, and three Bell 205s, UH1H Super Hueys. We had a salvage rig, a converted Hackney multiple bay apparatus with all the toys we could ask for on structures, salvage and overhaul. A generator and lighting pods. Bays full of spare Scott bottles, cables, Super Sawzalls, cribbing, smoke ejectors. We carried five PWs. Old school. We were dispatched automatically on the second alarm. My crew was manpower. Thus, I had to train and qualify them for wildland, and both truck and engine company tasks. On scene, I was Mother Hen. I had guys on the roof, on exposures, salvage, and relieving in attack. Yes, total shit show, and I cherish every minute of it. My experience is unique in the big scheme, but it is what I learned and practiced. This video really warms the heart, I left the fire service to support my three daughters. They were in my first in area, hehe. I miss donning the helmet every day. It has been many years. Every time I hear a Huey, yes...the memories are there. Every time I hear the sirens, I am back. Ther really is no such thing as a former firefighter.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
Hello 👋 Robert 😊
@mikecanzi5462
@mikecanzi5462 2 жыл бұрын
The argument seems to be to only use a deck gun when you're confident you'll find another water supply quickly. Is that right? If so, I don't understand it at all... If you immediately spray 500 gallons of water on a fire in one minute, you'll have cooled it off a lot. Even if it takes a few minutes to find the next source of water, the fire will struggle to come back because you've given it a swift kick in the ass. What is the alternative to using the deck gun? Not spraying any water on the fire until you've found a hydrant? Wouldn't that just give the fire time to grow and destroy?
@eldoradoboy
@eldoradoboy 2 жыл бұрын
his point was on exposures.. you wouldnt empty your tank on the deck gun if you have exposures in danger.. yes the original fire structure may have time to grow a bit but if you can use a couple handlines for a few minutes to do a knock on exposure sides of the structure, then once supply is secured, hit the fire with the deck gun. ie in this case the deck gun does a knock on the A side but if you have fire starting to vent on the C or D sides where other structures exist it might be more beneficial to get a knock on that fire while water is being secured..
@virgilhilts3924
@virgilhilts3924 2 жыл бұрын
The alternative is to be more strategic and efficient by using a hand line. This fire was primarily involving the porch, thus it was accessible to the stream. If there had been no porch and the fire was primarily interior rolling from more than one side, the stream isn't going to be as effective since much of the interior will be inaccessible to it. In that case it would be better to flake out two hand lines so the crew can be more strategic.
@mikecanzi5462
@mikecanzi5462 2 жыл бұрын
@@eldoradoboy That makes sense.
@mikecanzi5462
@mikecanzi5462 2 жыл бұрын
@@virgilhilts3924 OK. I can see that, too.
@JB91710
@JB91710 2 жыл бұрын
Mike! If the average tank will only last 60 seconds when using the DG and you can knock down all Visible Burning Material with 10 seconds of water, what is the concern. NOBODY thinks about that. Those flames where gone in 10 seconds and the rest could be handled with a Booster Line if needed. Most residential fires can be extinguished with JUST tank water when it is applied by people who actually think about how they are applying it. Endlessly applying water to one spot is not firefighting but it is what you will see in 95% of KZbin fire videos.
@Jimmythefish577
@Jimmythefish577 2 жыл бұрын
I think we’re starting to over complicate things these days, we’re so obsessed with SOP’s, hose loads, tactics, VEIS etc etc that we seem to be forgetting the absolutely best way to make any fire incident get better in a hurry is to make the fire go away, it’s really that simple. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@GamerMason123
@GamerMason123 2 жыл бұрын
I know this guy focusses are residential and urban places, but I come from a rural place where most calls are grass fires. We actually are trying to learn more about how to fight fire with fire. also known as control burns or back burning. Sometimes putting the wet stuff on the hot stuff isn’t always the best option. This is an example of sitting down, forming the SOP’s and teaching has done. It helps us better understand and adapt to the new fire behaviors we see. Now this situation isn’t going to be true for residential/urban fires of course, but this is just an example of where SOP’s do help.
@chrisanthony579
@chrisanthony579 2 жыл бұрын
As an observer of these fire video's, seems to me that the "science" of firefighting closely resembles what happens in corporate america's board rooms. I guess someone needs to create the 30 page policy manual on operating the copy machine and the 30 people that need to "peer review" that manual.
@GamerMason123
@GamerMason123 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisanthony579 I guess I wasn't clear. The SOP's are made by the department chief for me. For example, it's your basic stuff, what offensive/deffensive stragety mean etc. But also goes more into detail at how to properly operate the pump and tools. Especially since it's volunteer, many people have little to none experience on how to run certain tools.
@eldoradoboy
@eldoradoboy 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamerMason123 seems more important than ever for volunteer departments to cross train and have the ability to read up ahead of time to stay fresh.. unlike full-time FD, you guys rely on who shows up at the firehouse or scene when the call goes out.. if your usual pump guy cant get to scene, someone else needs to ensure water gets from the hydrant to the lines.. having good solid plans ahead can be the difference between a fire that stays contained t oa single structure and one that takes down a whole block
@jreese46
@jreese46 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisanthony579 As recently as about 2007, I don't know what may have changed since then, the FF exam had questions about defining a BTU, but nothing about when/whether you should open a door.
@williambrockjr2736
@williambrockjr2736 2 жыл бұрын
BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES WHEN I WAS A FIRE FIGHTER. EVERYTHING FROM THE DRIVER TO THE PLUGMAN. KNOW YOUR JOB WITHOUT HESITATION.
@vitiare
@vitiare 2 жыл бұрын
Did the cameraman use a paint mixer for a tripod? Good god!
@manubishe
@manubishe 2 жыл бұрын
He was excited to see a firetruck in action.
@RLTtizME
@RLTtizME 2 жыл бұрын
You have postponed your wall-eyed surgery far too long.....have that done immediately. 👀👀
@chrismullin8304
@chrismullin8304 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. However, it may be this persons home that is burning. -Empathetic Face
@hankgs
@hankgs 2 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget working with an Old Guy decades ago , who upon arrivial of a brush/fence fire next to a house said, "Let's deck gun this baby..."! lol
@owensweetland342
@owensweetland342 2 жыл бұрын
One -armed photographer? Tornado? Earthquake? Just sayin 🤷
@fuzzy2482
@fuzzy2482 2 жыл бұрын
Video was shot in 2009. Definitely not the stabilization you get today.
@pranavs84
@pranavs84 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂 i think it's zoomed in
@jasonmurawski5877
@jasonmurawski5877 Жыл бұрын
Adrenaline?
@owensweetland342
@owensweetland342 Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@riparianlife97701
@riparianlife97701 Жыл бұрын
Pyrophile jerkin' it to a fire. Just give 'im space till he's done.
@dillonmcannnell
@dillonmcannnell 2 жыл бұрын
our 1st due is a 3500 gallon 1250 gpm pumper/tanker! we are blessed to have it for our rural area's. we also have a 2500 gallon tender and 1200 tender right behind her ! so we use the deck gun from time to time !
@jreese46
@jreese46 2 жыл бұрын
After some of the other recent videos, it's nice to see people with a little pep in their step.
@JB91710
@JB91710 2 жыл бұрын
There is a specific cause for zombie firefighting that goes beyond laziness. It is overcomplicating the Job of firefighting while having an incorrect job description or mission statement to work from. Most departments have no idea or the wrong idea of what that overall job is. This should be that mission statement. "Eliminate the threat quickly and safely while using the least amount of water." Yes, that can even include the use of tank water with the deck gun when done properly. They used around 30 seconds of tank water that they shouldn't have used. In the time it took to eliminate combustion, around 10 seconds, a 1.75" line could have been pulled to surgically apply just enough water to completely stop reignition. You will notice that my statement doesn't include Search and Rescue. That's because you can eliminate all visible threats faster and safer with a quick application of water, than you can get fully dressed, assemble an entry team, get the front door open, crawl around in a smoke filled and unfamiliar structure to find and remove the victims. That is a lot or work, manpower and time to waste while you allow the fire to grow and threaten everyone.
@patriot6350
@patriot6350 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the fire service when switching from 3/4 high pressure to 1 1/2 high volume and master streams, in time for a strip mall fire keeping it to 3 stores thanks to master streams and ending my career with a enclosed mall fire stopping it at the 1st fire wall of 3 section mall. Important to know your hydrant capacity and how far is the next hydrant on a different water system. Most important when moving 10 thousand + gallons per minute. Our situation is 8 12 and 24 inch water systems.
@hihfty
@hihfty 2 жыл бұрын
It’s all about GPM! 30 seconds of a deck gun at 500GPM will always put out more fire than 7 minutes of 125 gpm hand line. Once you understand this concept handline deployment and tactics will all start to click.
@hankgs
@hankgs 2 жыл бұрын
...not if the deck gun isn't hitting the base of the fire, handlines have the ability to manuover and deploy in the right spot...
@chrisanthony579
@chrisanthony579 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just a guy that trusts the fire and rescue folks but it seems to me, if that were my house, roll the dice and dump it for 30 seconds and we'll worry about the what if's later. I'm also the guy that runs his own business and love to hit the vegas casinos. So many video's show 4 or 5 minutes where the are on scene the fire increases by 30 % and not a drop of water.
@hihfty
@hihfty 2 жыл бұрын
@@hankgs if your worried about the angle of attack then you don’t need the deck gun. The goal is too put out massive amount of fire and then get your hand lines into the seat. This video was a perfect display of knocking down exterior fire and a couple of Rooms and then going in with handlines to find the seat.
@hankgs
@hankgs 2 жыл бұрын
@@hihfty ...your statement said : "deckgun @ 500gpm will ALWAYS put out more fire than..." ;)
@andyoxleyonhistravels
@andyoxleyonhistravels 2 жыл бұрын
@@hihfty Far too slow to get it to work. We can get high pressure hosereels to work in under 30 seconds of turning up. They took 2.30 to get any water on it so it just grew bigger.
@keetnasty
@keetnasty 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things that we did in our FF1 class was had the best pump operator simulate rolling up to a fire and starting her deck gun up and we (2 man team) had to hand jack our lines to the closest hydrant and get water flowing before she ran out of tank water. (100GPM deck gun, 750 gallon tank) Me and my partner were the only team to get the line charged before she could charge the deck hun. Very valuable training experience
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
Dundas 😬
@Squad61
@Squad61 2 жыл бұрын
Manpower, that is what makes a difference to. Normally I see US pumpers arrive at the scene staffed with just three FF's. I prefer our European standard of 5-6 FF's on each engine.
@Theupstateidiots
@Theupstateidiots 2 жыл бұрын
Alot of our departments are volunteer and its tough to get people to show up in the middle of the day. Most trucks have 6 seats.
@Squad61
@Squad61 2 жыл бұрын
Do you really think that all FD's in Europe are paid? 90% of Dutch, German, Belgium and France are Volunteers. And still they arrive with a minimum of 5-6 on an engine.
@axel5111
@axel5111 2 жыл бұрын
@@Squad61 In the Netherlands almost 70% of stations has volunteer staff only. However, the term "volunteer" is, in my opinion, a bit misleading. Dutch "volunteer" firefighters do get a compensation for their hours worked. Usually about €10-15 for non call hours (training and hydrant checks) and double that for hours put into calls. Paid on-station firefighters do have extra benefits however, like 70% sickpay and they aquire pensions. Their hours (18 hours pay for one 24 hour shift) are also always the "high" rate, since you never know when a call is gonna come through and they have an obligation to get on the engine.
@Theupstateidiots
@Theupstateidiots 2 жыл бұрын
@@Squad61 we have departments around us that respond with full trucks. However, where I live, it is very tough to get volunteers. Were a tourist town in upstate NY, it's hard to live here and work here. If you don't work for the town, you either do landscaping or travel to another town to work. Alot of our north country areas have this same issue where members are not able to be in town during the day. We get a call for a structure fire in the afternoon, our guys are running to the trucks to get a seat. I imagine these other countries have more opportunities to work in their towns. I literally just got back from an alarm call where I had 3 guys show up to the station. Times are tough.
@shyowl3453
@shyowl3453 2 жыл бұрын
@@Theupstateidiots to be fair also the US is a LOT bigger than European countries so you need WAY more Firefighters than you do in a smaller country, meaning that its harder to get a lot of people per engine due to how many engines there are in the country
@DeputatKaktus
@DeputatKaktus 10 ай бұрын
The output of modern fire engines is pretty impressive. Where I live (Germany) the deck gun - which we call a roof monitor for some reason - is not used all that often in domestic fire settings. The engine that I get to ride in (a type LF20 on an M.A.N. chassis) puts out up to 700 gpm at 145 psi (3000 liters @ 10 bar) from the main pump. Which is already sizeable IMO. When pushed, up to 17 bar (246 psi) are possible but that ofc comes with a penalty on the output. For those not in the firefighting world: a pump can either deliver a low pressure with high volume or high pressure with a lower output by volume. It’s a physics thing. This is why there are specialized pumps for firefighting (which tend to be high pressure pumps) as well as pumps dedicated to shifting large quantities of liquids, eg for draining water from places we don’t want it in. The latter are unsuitable for fighting fires though as they lack pressure. The most insane pumps have got to be those in aircraft firefighting. They have a tank of about 3000 gallons - and they can empty it in just over one minute. That would probably qualify as demolition equipment in the civilian world.
@Bernie0481USMC
@Bernie0481USMC 2 жыл бұрын
These days it seems, via videos, that most departments just want something pretty and cove3rd in lights. Rarely see blitz attacks or 2.5 lines pulled. More like 40 trucks, 100 firefighters pulling 1.5 lines and struggling to control a simple knock down. Started in 90s and we were aggressive in attacks and training. ALWAYS used deck gun upon arrival of big fire. We dropped supply on first in also so.....and always had 2nd due right behind us. Again, training in house and mutual aid companies was aggressive. Trained by and with Dr Harry Carter and former FDNY and North Jersey firefighters from the riot year so
@firedogbme5659
@firedogbme5659 2 жыл бұрын
Good critique, I agree with the assessment. That was a lot of fire showing, the deck gun is a good tool to knock the fire down while the crew pulls lines and gets ready to go in. I was a firefighter for 20 years full-time, and fireground tactics go back and forth but the biggest asset you have is flexibility and constant reassessment of what your current tactic is actually doing. Never be stuck in a box and force a tactic that's not effective. IMHO, they could've shut that stream down around 20 seconds without losing much knockdown, and that would've kept some water in the tank for a possible rescue upstairs. But that's armchair firefighting, I don't know what their size up indicated. I would add another caution to using a master stream this way that wasn't mentioned and that's making damn sure you've done a good 360 walk around beforehand. You can easily push the fire deeper into unburned structure and make matters worse. But overall really good use of available equipment.
@ReflectedMiles
@ReflectedMiles 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that they didn't do their 10 - 15 minutes of assessment and planning first. Keep that up and they'll be able to fight aircraft fires!
@perspectiveflip
@perspectiveflip 2 жыл бұрын
They could have also waited 70 minutes and kindly ask the fire to stop burning. I heard that's a pretty recently tried police tactic.
@dwavenminer
@dwavenminer 2 жыл бұрын
​@@perspectiveflip Its only warrented when theres people trapped inside the burning buidling, plus, they'd need alot more firefighters for that to work, got to make sure no one tries to help free the burning people... 😞
@Caderic
@Caderic Жыл бұрын
Y'all ain't even right! Bwahahaha.
@Objectified
@Objectified 9 ай бұрын
@@perspectiveflip It's always nice to see some derp acting like Uvalde was in any way, shape, or form the norm, completely ignoring that cops are and have long been rushing headfirst and immediate toward danger in mass shootings and every other situation you can imagine.
@johnwashburn7423
@johnwashburn7423 2 жыл бұрын
Fast water is understated as a critical tool, whether it be a deck gun or hand lines. This was a fun video to watch
@Blitz350
@Blitz350 2 жыл бұрын
Something to note that this video really shows well. Deck guns will generally be of reduced effectiveness on first floor fires. Master streams are best utilized from a position below the level of the fire. As you can see in the video though the gun is delivering a lot of water it cannot effectively get water into the roof structure of the porch, evidenced by the fire rolling from under the roof once the gun is shut down. You can flow all the water you want but if it doesn't go on the fire it is wasted. The main problem is most deck guns sit around 10' off the ground which gives a downward angle for most first floor fires. This can be mitigated by utilizing a ground monitor of some kind. Alternatively of you have a really open minded department, a bumper mounted prepiped deck gun can be used to devastating effect on fires of this type.
@JB91710
@JB91710 2 жыл бұрын
The DG is for initial knock down of Visible Burning Materials and to drastically reduce radiant heat. The water stream can be deflected off of other objects to get water on non-line of sight materials. Then a surgical mop up can be performed with a 1.75" line.
@vaughndelong3398
@vaughndelong3398 Жыл бұрын
I am always pleased to see someone use the deck gun...on a fire like this. Fast knock down !
@fosterkennel649
@fosterkennel649 2 жыл бұрын
Blessings to all of our firefighters. Great video.
@philiplettley
@philiplettley 2 жыл бұрын
That's the fastest I've ever seen US firefighters put water on a fire, they always seem to have a conference and cup of coffee before starting to tackle the fire. Like you said good teamwork, getting the lines primed before using the deck gun
@Izak213
@Izak213 2 жыл бұрын
Watch his video about Tulsa. That’s my local department
@LakesRegionEmergencyPhoto
@LakesRegionEmergencyPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Only the bad responses get the press. There are a ton of great videos around of US fire departments (big, small, vollies, paid) with extremely aggressive and well done done fire attacks...like these guys for example.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
Lettley 👋
@duncan0610
@duncan0610 2 жыл бұрын
They do seem to be very slow tackling fires in US, If in Uk that would have been out 30secs after they arrived.
@Fun4GA
@Fun4GA 2 жыл бұрын
I'm no FF, but this appeared to be set up out of step. That supply line got delayed while tucking under the tact lines, and it was the engineer that had to do it rather than a FF doing it first and most efficiently, and allowing the engineer time to instantly start routing. These guys were quick, regardless... so my hat off to them and all the people that work the front lines [both Red and Blue]. Great lesson as well, so thanks to taking the time to instruct.
@kidkique
@kidkique 2 жыл бұрын
this video should have been 55 seconds long
@christiangibbs8534
@christiangibbs8534 Жыл бұрын
Well done. Thanks, firefighters, for your service and sacrifice. (And thanks FirefighterNow for posting this video.)
@wheelstandr
@wheelstandr 2 жыл бұрын
Our local fire department definitely misused the deck gun on a fire. I went right up to the guys and said; All these buildings have a basement, with the amount of water you're pumping in there you're going to have hot embers and wood burning float up to the floor joist and start it back on fire. They literally emptied out the water tower and sure as shit, the fire re-ignited from the floor and burned that building and the building next to it down! There was chunks of wood all the way down the front street for a block and a half, and down the next street for three blocks!
@HM2SGT
@HM2SGT 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty rough, but at least they saved the cellar hole! 😉😁 (In the south they call it a slab saver, because they don’t tend to have cellars and structures tend to be built on concrete slabs)
@davidrossman7925
@davidrossman7925 10 ай бұрын
I use this same video in my training to show how effective the right amount of water on a fire is. Our industry is so full of training scars because we pull the small hand lines so often that we default to them even when it’s obvious a large diameter line or matter stream is needed.
@the3rdid485
@the3rdid485 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first time I've ever seen firefighters move with even a hint of speed.
@ctrlaltdebug
@ctrlaltdebug 2 жыл бұрын
TBH most of the time they are called to a smokey backyard fire pit by nosy neighbors. It just happened to me while starting some wet wood that gave off steam.
@karlbailey1066
@karlbailey1066 9 ай бұрын
I am a captain on a rural fire department in Vermont, and only having a very limited water supply early on. I understand the importance of making every gallon count.
@Icureditwithmybrain
@Icureditwithmybrain 2 жыл бұрын
His use of the deck gun was flawless, not a drop wasted.
@BoatyMcBoatface669
@BoatyMcBoatface669 10 ай бұрын
Great video showing some brave and well trained public servants in action. Firefighters are the best!
@mtb416
@mtb416 2 жыл бұрын
500 gallon tank, I assume.
@TGraysChannels
@TGraysChannels 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Ten year volunteer at a rural department. Videos like this, teach me.
@rosswagner3021
@rosswagner3021 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful execution! These guys are a great bunch of guys too, although I haven’t met too many firefighters how isn’t a great guy or gal. They a just a town away from me.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
Ross 😌
@snoopfurlow1275
@snoopfurlow1275 Жыл бұрын
Deck gun is a powerful tool but its best to hook up to a water source,then let it flow!!
@shannonelliott6116
@shannonelliott6116 2 жыл бұрын
All great points. However, waiting to secure a static or pressurized water source may in fact be worse than dumping all the tank water you have on first arrival. I've watched many depts. use only one 1.5" because they claim that deck guns just "waste" water. Last I checked, the object is to extinguish the fire, not babysit it until it engulfs the entire structure.
@jimmccabe801
@jimmccabe801 2 жыл бұрын
are you in the fire service?
@hihfty
@hihfty 2 жыл бұрын
Dumping half a tank with the deck gun will have way more knock down power than a 1.5 ever will. If water supply is rapidly being established and we are faced with a heavy fire load than it’s a perfect tactic.
@shannonelliott6116
@shannonelliott6116 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmccabe801 Yes sir.
@jimmccabe801
@jimmccabe801 2 жыл бұрын
@@shannonelliott6116 I've seen just the oppisite. where deck gun emptied the tank and lost the structure because there was no water supply.
@jreese46
@jreese46 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmccabe801 I think we can all agree it could help or could hurt, and has to be a judgment call for someone who can see all the other factors on that particular scene.
@Thestudiedtheist
@Thestudiedtheist 2 жыл бұрын
Its a ballet, a good running crew is all assigned a job and do it in unison. Great to watch when done properly. I was a volunteer and our dept was awesome and proactive. It was a tiny town too which helped, we got water deployed within 8 mins with source secured in that time.
@ericweiler6571
@ericweiler6571 5 ай бұрын
I love Mike's videos. I learn something every single time I watch his content. Thank you, Mike, for your service. You are truly a hero
@brucecuratola6389
@brucecuratola6389 2 жыл бұрын
Very little to criticize! Crews hustled. Every had a specific Jon. Master steam knocked in down in 10 seconds! If they had CAFS, it would have been over in 5 seconds.
@eastonkeeton5370
@eastonkeeton5370 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard a lot recently about CAFS on structure fires what's the thinking behind foaming a structure instead of just water?
@shyowl3453
@shyowl3453 2 жыл бұрын
@@eastonkeeton5370 from my non ff and very limited understanding, it sticks where its sprayed, so it prevents stuff from reigniting later on
@smitty2276
@smitty2276 2 жыл бұрын
We do what we call a blitz attack engine pulls up in master stream distance leaving room for ladder if possible and the chauffer puts it in pump gets out and operates deck gun knocking down the fire using 1/3 to 1/2 of tank water while the rest of the crew establishes a positive water supply.
@xspecialkronx5688
@xspecialkronx5688 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on that Ronkonkoma fire at 4:30
@Michael-cd4ng
@Michael-cd4ng 2 жыл бұрын
He already has
@xspecialkronx5688
@xspecialkronx5688 2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-cd4ng what’s the video called?
@ianjones7740
@ianjones7740 2 жыл бұрын
If you had come from Limestone Street beside McDonalds, you would have been here in 6 minutes. But that station was closed, and you came from Ripley. 13 minutes to arrive and the house was completely engulfed and subsequently destroyed.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
Jones 👋😌
@brianclassen5221
@brianclassen5221 Жыл бұрын
I worked with a guy from Vegas, one time, who was into big water. I used a Quantum pumper 1500 GPM two stage Waterous pump to make 4300GPM. I had every intake and discharge in use. Amazed the instructor and Vegas has the same rigs. I also was consulted by Oakland Fire Authority, and they have Quantum's very similar. New well-maintained rigs with competent operators are a thing to watch. There is a lot going on for about the first 10 minutes then maintain what you started until recalled. Stay out of the engineer's way is a good start. With a plug right there a Master stream is a good call tank water then get a second supply transition to hand lines. Porch fire and importance of a 360. DO NOT FALL into the basement!
@KiloOscar205
@KiloOscar205 Жыл бұрын
You must be referring to Paul Shapiro.
@mikmik9034
@mikmik9034 2 жыл бұрын
I presume your "deck gun" aka "Master source" is what I heard as a "Monitor"?
@paulshoop5303
@paulshoop5303 2 жыл бұрын
Im a little apprehensive about commenting because I am way out of date with my experience. Im not talking years, Im a few decades out, however, I believe the basics still apply. I was on a well equipped volunteer "city" department on the edge of transitioning to a few full time members. Our Chief did include deck and 2.5" ground nozzle training several times a year because in certain instances, safe placement of the truck in relation to the main body of fire with hydrant location did allow for a very quick knockdown of the majority of the involved area. This would buy time for the most effective next move. The deck gun was the big "haymaker" knockdown and while its on its heels trying to regroup, we had a little time to put our knockout combo together. However like you indicated, we did not want to open the big guns in an area with no hydrants or inoperable/frozen hydrants.
@chrismoody1342
@chrismoody1342 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I’m happy the nearest fire station is about 3/4 mile away and the hydrant is within 150’ of my house. Also a hospital is next door to the fire station. Help is 2 minutes away. Yeah.
@Proud_Troll
@Proud_Troll 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was thrilling to watch. I did not realize how much sheer power those things have. That force could probably push a truck!
@3ffrige
@3ffrige 9 ай бұрын
I heard after that incident, that house all of a sudden became cheaper to buy. Hats off to all our firefighters and first responders for putting your lives on the line to save the rest of our lives! Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for your service!
@northmanlogging2769
@northmanlogging2769 2 жыл бұрын
DNR/Forest service requires loggers to have a minimum 300 gal tank, with a pump... from experience my 330gal tank lasts about 5 minutes with a semi trash pump and 1.5" hose... and we rarely have hydrants near by... so if a fire does start, call for help first, then fire the pump up and cross your fingers, though its surprising how big of a fire you can at least control with a small tank and careful aim.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@myredute
@myredute 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching this video for over two minutes & have NOT yet seen anyone hook up the Hydrant line. Meanwhile this house is absolutely blazing & still there's no water on the fire!!!!!
@artyart31
@artyart31 2 жыл бұрын
EMT, FIREFIGHTERS, TEACHERS THESE ARE THE REAL HEROES.
@ahabsbane
@ahabsbane 2 жыл бұрын
Very good execution and teamwork, props to that crew!
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 2 жыл бұрын
training: first in engine is fire attack, second in engine secures water supply. reality: first in engine is shutting down his pump to go establish his own water supply, while second in engine is doing their own thing.
@billyyank2198
@billyyank2198 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a firefighter, but as a fan of Emergency I found the video enjoyable and informative.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect Billy😬
@jamjardj1974
@jamjardj1974 2 жыл бұрын
Now I realise why U.K fire brigades are starting to roll out Scorpion/Stinger or HRET turrets, handy bit of kit to have at your disposal.
@wcsoblake85
@wcsoblake85 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad youtubes algorithm recommended your channel. This was a good video.
@cmcer1995
@cmcer1995 2 жыл бұрын
I believe I have watched this before, but I totally agree that using the deck gun was the best way to handle this fire. Very quickly brought this fire under control and with everybody else doing their job excellent response. Get water on fire as quickly as possible.
@EverettBaland
@EverettBaland 5 ай бұрын
Strong work, recognizing the master stream opportunity AND getting a secure supply at the same time.
@ptmy8590
@ptmy8590 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the first engine is a Pierce, the hydrant is right there, and how the fire fighters move with a purpose.
@juangranados7652
@juangranados7652 2 жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity to volunteer in a fire department. Although my time was rather short, 3 years, I did had the opportunity to experience something similar. I can tell yall that seeing a fire engulfing a house is impressive. But my biggest fear was arriving and for someone to tell me that someone was still inside. This was by far my biggest concern. The few times this happened, luckily no one was home and one was a crack house. It was a great time in my life and I will always support volunteer dept!
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
seen this exactly once in my lifetime of watching firefighting and it was 1. within seconds of them arriving 2. they had a hydrant right away 3. command were directly behind them so didn’t need to do the sizeups 4. 2nd alarm struck so help from neighboring cities were en-route master stream was used to prevent exposure issues but once protected they used smaller lines for an interior attack
@Graham_Langley
@Graham_Langley 2 жыл бұрын
Clandon Park House here in UK was gutted by fire in 2015 due to running out of water. They'd all but put the fire out using the water brought with them but couldn't use the lake close by as it was downhill from the house. This wasn't noted on the records so they didn't bring the pumps required to push water up to the house. By the time more water could be brought into use it was too late.
@BillBlast7372
@BillBlast7372 2 жыл бұрын
👍 *ANOTHER GREAT VID & GLAD TO SEE UR CHANNEL GROW THRU SHARING IMPORTANT INFO....THX & STAY SAFE BRO!!!!*
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Blast 💥
@Diddley-js6lf
@Diddley-js6lf 2 жыл бұрын
I just found your site and I will be following it everyday. Like I said 23 years of Service the last 10 as Fire Chief, We had 3 Stations 75 Hard hitting guys who we some real Smoke Eaters. I sure Miss it really bad. I got Cancer Twice actually Leukemia AML the Worst Kind of Leukemia but after Two Very Long Battles and finally a Bone Marrow Transplant and Fantastic Oncologist Who were Amazing I m are it through. I attribute my healing from the Lord God and also going back to Work super fast for which I wasn’t even close to ready but I faked a whole lot of being healed so I could get back into the Fire so to speak with no pun intended. I have received many Awards and Accolade’s but nothing will ever compare to a instance my buddy and I happened onto a home all security Barred Up Locked Inside by her mother while mom went to a job fair, the little 4 Year old tried making her Breakfast by cooking Boiled Eggs in a Pan which Caught on Fire, we seen smoke coming out of the eaves so we stopped and found that little girl, I for 20 years always wondered what came of the precious little girl like did so called mother treat her good or who knows but finally my wife looked her name up from the awards my buddy and I got for it, she found her name then I found her on Facebook I broke in down until I found what I thought would possibly be that little girl. We it was the Little Beautiful Girl whom consumed my thoughts and nightmares for 20 years was finally just a. Message away from finding out how she made out in life, I private messaged her and waited so a month goes by and I am now feeling like maybe it isn’t her or worse, then a month later she messaged me back so her and I have talked quite often now and I was very happy to know. She got her College degree at Eastern Michigan and now lives in Atlanta, Georgia doing very well also living close to her parents who also did well in life. So those bad memories and worrying about that Beautiful little 4 year old baby was now over at least the wondering part, now I hope the rest of her life will be filled with joy and Love. Thank you for the channel and allowing my story to carry on here. People called me a Hero but I don’t like that label, I signed up to do the job and I knew going in there would be good times and bad time more then good, I didn’t do it it to be called that word I did it to help others and my community period, Hero was Never in the Equation period. Thank you again Sir.
@-108-
@-108- 9 ай бұрын
Good video. Well titled, well produced, & well delivered. Great job, sir!
@davescott1491
@davescott1491 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. Great work everyone. What’s even better is that fire prevention, building codes and enforcement mean firefighters are only fighting fires about 5% of the total calls responded to. Amazing…and with good laws, building standards, better communication and education we can reduce fires to even less. That will save a great deal of money and more importantly lives.
@hanskanns3581
@hanskanns3581 2 жыл бұрын
As a voluntary firefighter from germany i have to say that your dack guns can pump out so much water. Our deck gun can pump up to 2500l ore 660g so that is like nothing in comparison.
@carolynthornton8017
@carolynthornton8017 Жыл бұрын
IN MY VIEW I have never seen a house on fire like that. The firefighters KNEW exactly what to do as a team to attack that fire and put it out. I am impressed.
@lovestihlquality1369
@lovestihlquality1369 Жыл бұрын
Retired now. For years officer on Ladder/ quint which responded also as Engine. Trained my engineer and crew to set aerial, 100 ft stick very quickly. Also controls at pump controls. Pd off. Well involved large residence w zero lot lines. Deck gun primary and aerial master stream reached over to protect exposure. Upon arrival of second due already darkened down. We laid from hydrant.
@lovestihlquality1369
@lovestihlquality1369 Жыл бұрын
Favorite, big garage fire on a "McManaion" we stop at hydrant to lay in. Sooo, neighbors do Goods frantically waving arms and pointing at the 'correct' house as if duh. Didn't comprehend why we stopped until they saw our hydrant connection. "Cold' grill coals in wastebasket in garage. Had another left on wood deck. Left home. Neighbor called them, house on fire after 911. Dumb people = job security!!
@taelius2663
@taelius2663 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that there was such a tool that could negate basic fires in such a quick timespan. As you stated in the video, there has to be a water source nearby, as most fire trucks only have a limited onboard water capacity.
@JB91710
@JB91710 2 жыл бұрын
Most departments don't know either. If you can see the burning material, you can reach and extinguish it with the deck gun with just a few seconds of water and it is hardly ever used.
@chuckman231
@chuckman231 2 жыл бұрын
Once you put the fire out most of your problems go away!
@TrafficCamWatch
@TrafficCamWatch 2 жыл бұрын
The fact they used it when they suspected that there were people inside is either a sign of poor training or pure desperation.
@mtnride4930
@mtnride4930 2 жыл бұрын
Used the deck gun on a couple of times on detached garages very effective.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
🙄
@speculizer1971
@speculizer1971 2 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed…. It’s a mistake you won’t make but one time!! NEVER open until you have a water supply established! As a young driver I was given a direct order by a capt to put deck gun on it without a plug. It was a large siding warehouse with the front office fully involved. Instead of arguing I followed orders and I climbed up, got gun set, climbed down and opened up, climbed back up to adjust gun and climbed back down to a flashing tank light on pump panel. Lol That capt later apologized and admitted it was an ignorant decision he made. Man your vids truly pull water out of my eyes as this Friday is my last day to work before I retire.
@thomasfitzgerald4437
@thomasfitzgerald4437 Жыл бұрын
As a Fire Capt in a major Urban Dept, that was a textbook use of the Master Stream. My only criticism is the lack of the positive water source at the onset but it was a great job.
@barri45
@barri45 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! That was seriously my old residence 😳
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 2 жыл бұрын
🙄
@Diddley-js6lf
@Diddley-js6lf 2 жыл бұрын
We use Boosters on a fast attack, the key is to swirl the Nozzle so the Fire gets rotated then the Water Droplets absorb the head. I have put out many many fully engulfed House Fire rockin just like that one in the video. 23 years of rolling in low and Hot.
@Diddley-js6lf
@Diddley-js6lf Жыл бұрын
Absolutely a booster on fog swirling it will stop the Fire in its tracks. Used that technique for 23 years so I know it works.
@bobbelsekwol
@bobbelsekwol 2 жыл бұрын
Just that simple act of putting the feed in, underneath the 1st line of hose cuts down on the amount of work later on. So many crews focus on the fire and forget about the next 5mins.
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