Changing axle seal on semi truck at home without all the special tools

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Gordon Robertson DIY

Gordon Robertson DIY

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@moeosman3517
@moeosman3517 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon Robinson, I have been driving truck for the last 10 year and I knew nothing about what I learned from you. Your videos help me to become a better drive. I can't express words how much I appreciate you.
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@thatlowesguy5544
@thatlowesguy5544 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You for this extremely helpful video sir. I was stuck on a military installation and no mechanic was able to get to me. I knew I had enough technical knowhow in performing the job myself when I blew a seal but your video helped totally clear up a lot of my second guesswork. I was 100 times more confident in performing this task myself and it turned out great and safe. I decided to go ahead an replace both bearings while I was at it since they had seen better days. It's people like you who give power back to the every day trucker. Because of your selfless service our independent way of life will live on. God bless and many thanks for your time and effort you put into making this video.
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting.
@miguelaguilar9605
@miguelaguilar9605 4 жыл бұрын
Gordon Robertson DIY tnks sr all your videos is very helpful tnks again.
@PrefersAnonymity
@PrefersAnonymity 3 жыл бұрын
Gordon, Thank you for your videos! Yours is the second channel I have subscribed to in the life of KZbin. I very much appreciate you showing regular folks without all the fancy gear how to get the job done. Let me share with you a little on this procedure I have learned over the years, I am always trying to learn a better or easier way to do things myself. When pulling the seal there are two methods way better than using a crow bar against the hub. #1. With most hubs you can simply pull the outer bearing, put the outer nut back on the spindle and give the hub a couple good sharp tugs and the seal will uninstall itself. #2. Reattach the hub to the drum with a couple lug nuts and use the hub wall to pry out the seal, so your not prying against the other side of the seal, much easier and the whole seal will simply pop out with little effort. And for all those folks complaining about the way you tighten the nut down, one good whack with a screwdriver after hand tight equals about 200 lbs. on my torque wrench, and much quicker. Best wishes
@matthewbenson5913
@matthewbenson5913 Жыл бұрын
11:38
@matthewbenson5913
@matthewbenson5913 Жыл бұрын
😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
@jimjones1678
@jimjones1678 8 жыл бұрын
I have done some auto repair over the years. I love your attention to detail and taking time to clean important parts. A job done right is the best way to go.
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir.
@1chevroletcorvette
@1chevroletcorvette 4 жыл бұрын
Attention to detail? He is a butcher
@jimmybrown169
@jimmybrown169 Жыл бұрын
I like to lay my hub down in the break drum Backwards keeps it from moving while you take the seal out and install the new one. I enjoy watching your videos.
@kittienegro2339
@kittienegro2339 5 жыл бұрын
This video refresh my mind when I used to do this job 30 years ago
@driver3025
@driver3025 Жыл бұрын
You explain everything like my Dad does. Those little things you mention like putting things in order to reassemble easier.
@cliftongalloway5970
@cliftongalloway5970 5 жыл бұрын
A tip on getting the seal out...place the hub back in the drum (bolt hole side up) and it will provide a good support for prying the seal out, you can even put a lug nut on it to help hold it
@kennandlal3943
@kennandlal3943 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative for the hands on and the do it yourself guys...thanks very much for sharing your knowledge, just did my brakes today and notice the hub seal was bad..was trying to figure out an easy way to change the seal...your video was extremely helpful...keep up the great work
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for the comment, glad to hear it helped.
@DEHINNERTruthpod
@DEHINNERTruthpod 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Robertson that was an excellent video you've posted. This coming next month on the 25th will be my two year anniversary that my truck caught on fire. This same work that you're doing on this truck was what I needed but I wasn't quite aware that the hub had ran out of oil which then caused the fire. I have conducted my pre/post trips everything time and I have mainly looked for oil leaks around the areas that oil my be spotted but I've never seen any. Prior to the fire the truck has been sitting for quite some time before I bought it from someone. I have ran the truck for two months after I bought it and on the week of the 25th of June I had planned to take the truck for a PM but the truck never maid it to the weekend to get the PM done. What would have been a $350.00 job based on a PM service ended up cost me close to a $10,000.00 job. I basically had rebuilt to whole rear axle, all my air bags, tires, rims, etc. I finally was able to get my truck back together 2 two weeks ago. This is actually my first time owning my own truck and boy what a way to learn from something like this. Your video gave me soooooo much knowledge of changing the seals on the axles and servicing the rear end is sooooo IMPORTANT that procrastinating on something like NOT servicing these exles will cost you thousands of dollars or costing you to lose your truck which in my case paying thousands of dollars. Thank you sooooo much for posting your video it's very INFORMATIVE!!!!!
@thatlowesguy5544
@thatlowesguy5544 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for sharing
@edharm8446
@edharm8446 6 жыл бұрын
Wonder the last time the gear lube was changed?
@mattberg6785
@mattberg6785 5 жыл бұрын
If you're driving for a living, especially if you own your own you better start learning what everything on your truck smells like, looks like and sounds like. 90 weight has a very distinctive odor, especially when you warm it up
@ct381
@ct381 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you had a wheel speed sensor go out on my truck and because of watching your videos i was able to perform the work myself. This is what old time trucking is all about keep up sharing the videos man they are helpful.
@VincesEngines
@VincesEngines 6 жыл бұрын
Great instruction , The manual and sockets are always available and it is good to see it done the old school way with a bit of improvisation .
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@festus51
@festus51 8 жыл бұрын
I have just found your channel. Excellent video! I am happy to know that I am not the only person to put seals in with board and hammer. Also you are working outside just like I have too.
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir. I was a pro car mechanic in the '80s and worked inside, but my truck can't go in my shop. I'm not a pro mechanic anymore but I still do all of my repairs here at home. I'm rebuilding my truck engine right now, subscribe and follow the progress.
@Imwright720
@Imwright720 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks. I don’t know if it would help but I place a block or tool on the opposite side under the pry bar to pop seals. Mine aren’t as large as yours put they pop right out.
@1one3_Racing
@1one3_Racing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Great to see a tutorial done on the ground with simple tools. All the others are in a workshop with axle nut sockets and shit. Turns out I'm doing it right, just need to give it more anger to free the hub off the axle.
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
Good luck. Thanks for watching.
@bigpappahemi4263
@bigpappahemi4263 6 жыл бұрын
Your voice reminds me of my late grandfathers who was also a trucker. Good job on the video and stay safe out there!
@ronreeves6224
@ronreeves6224 5 жыл бұрын
Better get up to speed about torque on inner nut to preload bearing. Great video up to that point
@samrojo1987
@samrojo1987 Жыл бұрын
Finally a good (very good) video about how to replace a seal, thank you sir 🫡
@rodneybenfer912
@rodneybenfer912 4 жыл бұрын
Place rags on the ground, put the brake drum over the rags,invert the hub and tap the bearing out to remove the seal 👍
@shawnburdett6401
@shawnburdett6401 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the way I was taught.
@val_p7027
@val_p7027 5 жыл бұрын
By far Gordon has the best videos I seen in KZbin in years .. thank you sir!
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@sammymwangi2534
@sammymwangi2534 5 жыл бұрын
@@57bagre respect,,,thanks for sharing ua knowledge....
@dwes8098
@dwes8098 8 жыл бұрын
i always tape the threads on the spindle up so as not to damage the new seal. just a little tip. only takes 10 seconds to do.
@patricioaguayo9088
@patricioaguayo9088 8 жыл бұрын
I have use a plain claw hammer for these seals,it works great. Just a lil advise. Thank you for sharing.
@ht76sonny
@ht76sonny 7 жыл бұрын
Good job it's good to know how to change the brakes and seals with simple tools, I might have to change out my own one of these days never know but I enjoy learning you made it very clear to understand
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir.
@DL-by4tq
@DL-by4tq 6 жыл бұрын
old fashion mechanic job. no laptop no pc no software all down to the hammer and wrenches. loving this videos.
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting.
@normanmclennan9132
@normanmclennan9132 6 жыл бұрын
D L a
@doctorpepper4655
@doctorpepper4655 5 жыл бұрын
Very good. Thank you. On the brake job video the drum was replaced as well. Why? Wasn’t sure as there was no explanation given and I assume it was worn are warped but clarification would be nice
@cheeks7
@cheeks7 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, currently in school to be a truck tech and watching your videos gives me an idea before doing labs, Keep on going man!
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, but if your in school for this kind of work, some of my videos are not going to agree with everything that is taught in school, my videos are more for the guy who is trying to get the job done at home and doesn't have all the special tools. Good luck in your career. Thanks for watching.
@andrewwilson8317
@andrewwilson8317 7 жыл бұрын
I was given an old tool for doing those large hub nuts. From the look of it I think it's ex military. It is a tee handle with two v shaped jaws that wind in and out towards each other to suit the size of the nut. It can reach in about seven inches. It looks like a load of torque would bend it but for reaching into hubs to do the big,low torque nuts it's perfect. There is a half inch square on back,probably for a torque wrench. I have never seen one on eBay or in any of the tool catalogues . Bit of a shame as it gets used by me on pretty much all the big hubs I do that use a nut to preload and secure the bearings. One observer once told me a similar tool was used to fit the sealing gland nuts on torsion bar suspension tanks and that would explain the military link. Well worth keeping an eye out for at the flea markets and swap meets.
@PatChapp
@PatChapp 5 жыл бұрын
If you flip the hub and use a piece of softwood or brass, you can punch the old bearing and seal out pretty easy.toss a cloth down for the bearing to land on, it'll be fine.
@robertotoledo1910
@robertotoledo1910 Жыл бұрын
I always wanted to say Hello, and thank you for the educational information you provide, shout out from Fort myers, Fl Robert, 👋
@57bagre
@57bagre Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out from south Florida Roberto and I do miss Florida from my "OTR" days.
@XxSedyanxX
@XxSedyanxX Жыл бұрын
Inner lock nut is meant to pull hub and seal farther on the spindle is it not?
@michaelstepp8883
@michaelstepp8883 6 жыл бұрын
When removing the old seal put your pry bar behind it then get a wrench and turn the pry bar it will bring it right out and you don't have to chase the hub around. when you are prying it out like that you did you get one side loose and when you turn the hub and pry again you push the other side back down.
@johnhutsenpillerjr1785
@johnhutsenpillerjr1785 7 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with the hammer and chisel ! but I went to Max S Hayes Vocational school three years, with a state Vocational certificate 35 years in the business and 25 years driving em and wrenching fabrication, welding etc etc etc take from an old school pro !!! well done ! you didn't do bad at all !!! if I was still the shop foreman at Callison trucking, I'd hire ya in a heartbeat Sir !!! I've seen many a good small company go broke cause of overregulation etc ! ALL THE BEST TO YOU AND YOU'RE FAMILY SIR !!!
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment Sir. A lot of people have a problem with the hammer and chisel for tightening the locknut, but you know, I did 3 of them that way on this truck over the last 15 years and all of them came off that way and I put them back the same way, also one on my dump truck. I will buy a socket some day and re do the video, but not because I don't trust it to hold, it will hold until it needs to come apart for some other reason, I'll just do it for those politically correct people who really don't understand the mechanics of the whole thing and for those who are going to mechanic school and need to learn the proper way to do that job. Also I didn't add oil to the hub, I knew the bearings were wet and the diff. was full and as soon as it started rolling down the road it would fill with oil. I caught a lot of flack over that too.
@phayakoot1
@phayakoot1 8 жыл бұрын
You r very kind / nice man god bless you/family
@pacheco464
@pacheco464 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job tanks how much illl cost to replace shoes and how much for seals too I like know tanks for your information keep going vídeos tanks
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Brakes cost about $45 and seal cost about $35 per wheel for parts. los frenos son $45 y la sella sale unos $35 solo partes no mas.
@CTSCAPER
@CTSCAPER 7 жыл бұрын
Gordon I need to do this on my 02 Ram 2500. The process looks the same for most vehicles. Should I bother getting the seal installer and seal pullers or just use a block of wood, some crow bars and a drift. No one seems to use the special tools but I'd prefer to do it once every 150k miles.
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
Hi John. For me personally, I would use the wood or anything flat and sturdy that looks like it would get the seal in evenly watching closely as it's getting started so if it starts going in crooked you can quickly start hitting the high side to balance it before it's damaged. As for getting it out, you can do what I did or use 3 or four self tapping screws around the face of the seal and grip the screws with a vice grip or a pliers and lift it up an inch or 2 and hit the hub with a hammer to make like a slide hammer, or better yet go to Harbor Freight and get a slide hammer if you don't have one and use that. Let me know how it turns out.
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
I don't want to buy any 1 time use special tools, you can always use a slide hammer for something, but a seal installer? use the wood or go to Auto Zone or one of those places and borrow a tool if you don't want to do it like I do.
@CTSCAPER
@CTSCAPER 7 жыл бұрын
Gordon, thanks for the tips. I'm a little nervous to do the job but looking forward to the challenge at the same time. I picked up the socket for the hub at the auto parts store today. For under 20 bucks it seemed like a good idea. I was looking at a slide hammer.... :-)
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing to be nervous about, it's easy, if you have problems, it's no big deal to take the hub to a shop and watch them change the seal. Check the bearing and the race for any pitting, or grinding sounds before you put it back together and don't forget to back off that locknut about 1/4 turn after seating it down tight and make sure the oil is within 1/2" of the hole, better if it's full. If you need to change the bearing and race you can call me and I'll tell you how to do that, I don't have a video on that yet.
@CTSCAPER
@CTSCAPER 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gordon. I've been watching videos and reading the manual and all that's left is to get into it. Thanks for the great tips.
@ozzieulloa6088
@ozzieulloa6088 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when i was yung doing breakes on my dads bobtails i was a auto mecanic then going into trucking soon. Repairs have skyrocketed and technitions suck. Cant do it right the first time so thy do it twice.
@arlynsmith9196
@arlynsmith9196 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video sir. I learned a lot and enjoyed it. Pay no attention to those who think everything has to be done by a book. work-arounds exist for a very good reason!
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Arlyn.
@richlymann6451
@richlymann6451 7 жыл бұрын
great video Sir..Thinking of attempting this on a Greatdane trailer. Would be my first time ,any advice ??
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
Can't think of any advice that's not covered in the comments other than newer axles may have different style of locknuts but you still need to back off your first locknut a quarter turn after preload
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
You may want to look at my changing brakes on big truck video if you don't know how to loosen the brake shoes and tighten them back again when finished In order to remove the brake drum
@joseperez-vy2xy
@joseperez-vy2xy 7 жыл бұрын
pleasing the hub on the brake drum brings more stability to pull the seal, also to pull the seal out you could use a self tap screw a 2x4 and a carpenter hammer
@timamyett
@timamyett 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes after we remove the outside bearing if you'll put just the keeper nut back on three or four turns ... you could just give the hub a light pull and the nut will catch on the rear bearing and pop the seal out with the momentum of the pull. Also, some older axel heads have little cone-shaped washers behind the very first nuts and lock washer that you took off. The cones are impossible to take out unless you know the technique... Take a small hammer and tap over the outside edge right beside bolt and the little cone will just pop out, releasing the head and thus the axel. Years ago I paid a guy to do a brake liner and seal change. He charged me but didn't change the seals but said he had. Upon inspection of the work, I noticed that the axels looked like they had never been pulled. Having done the work myself before I knew the trick with the cone part. He came out to my truck and I asked him to remove the axel I already had the nuts and lock washers off he didn't know how to get those "stinking cones" out. That proved to me that he hadn't done the seals. I put a "stop payment" on the check for the whole job. I paid him for brake parts. He was pissed but he wasn't big enough to do anything about it. I don't do business with liars.
@57bagre
@57bagre 4 жыл бұрын
There should be a new video of that same job to be recorded tomorrow unless plans are changed. A friend with the same kind of truck went for an oil change today and called me asking if I was working tomorrow, I said no, he told me the oil change man showed him the leaking axle seal and my friend asked me if I could do that for him tomorrow, so that is the plan. New video on that soon.
@martinlavoie4002
@martinlavoie4002 5 жыл бұрын
Nice install I like the Chicago rawhide seals my self a lot nice then the Stemco seals where you have to put the slip sleeve over the axle. Anyhow a little tip I do is to put a bit of oil in the hub between both bearings before putting the outer bearing just a little insurance for me that the bearings get oil also don’t forget to top up the diff oil
@UBIQUITAR
@UBIQUITAR 5 жыл бұрын
Drop that hub upside down into a wheel and thread a nut on there. Then pry that seal out easy
@JoseHernandez-zm5cy
@JoseHernandez-zm5cy 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Stark drum works too
@jaker805
@jaker805 7 жыл бұрын
I have found that cursing helps at every stage in this process.
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@jasondesouto919
@jasondesouto919 5 жыл бұрын
Cursing seems to help when doing alot of things. Lol
@allenwinder3644
@allenwinder3644 4 жыл бұрын
An easier way to get that seal off is to put a nut back on the end of the axel and just knock the hub against it as you take it off the axel and the seal will pop right off.
@Steve.Vaught
@Steve.Vaught 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you need to
@arnoldramos39
@arnoldramos39 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Robertson, is there a way of checking the hub oil level without removing the wheel and brake drum? Or is it the same oil that goes in the differentials
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
It's the same oil as the differential.
@arnoldramos39
@arnoldramos39 7 жыл бұрын
Gordon Robertson thank you sir
@RobManVids
@RobManVids 4 жыл бұрын
Why no grease in the bearings or hub?
@phillip_mcguinness7025
@phillip_mcguinness7025 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I'm much less intimidated to change the hub seal on our truck. I like to use 50/50 Diesel and ATF for cleaning. Less vapor inhalation, almost no accidental ignition risk. Solvent and detergent together, easier on seals, has a good shelf life.
@57bagre
@57bagre 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Phillip.
@myrnapagan3280
@myrnapagan3280 5 жыл бұрын
Hola Mr Gordon. how do you know you seals are bad? im having problem with my semi and dont know its the seal or the bearings .
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Hola Myrna; If you have a seal leaking, you will be able to see oil getting on the brakes and can smell it as well. If you don't live too far from me you can use the email and contact me and come by my shop. gordonrdiy@yahoo.com
@FernandoRodriguez-wu9hc
@FernandoRodriguez-wu9hc 8 жыл бұрын
great video helped me a lot keep up the good work thanks, I need to replace the rear main seal of my 12.7 detroit on a 2003 freightliner century do you have a video of something like that?
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. No I don't have a video on the rear main seal, but the bulk of that job is getting the clutch down, and then the flywheel off, the flywheel looks heavy but it isn't (maybe 60 to 80 lbs.) maybe you can find a clutch video, I don't have one yet, do you have a truck transmission jack? I have done a clutch on that truck before, you can msg. me for help if you decide to do that job.
@FernandoRodriguez-wu9hc
@FernandoRodriguez-wu9hc 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks I do have some equipment not the best but just to get the job done. Thanks for your videos they really help a lot keep up the great job.
@FernandoRodriguez-wu9hc
@FernandoRodriguez-wu9hc 8 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to start on the rear main seal like on the ends of December.
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
I hope you live in a warm area, unless you have a heated shop. Where I live is to cold to do that at the end of December (St. Louis area) if you're in the U.S. you'll know where that is. with good tools and experience, you'll need about 10 - 14 hours and the clutch parts cost about $800.00
@tshaunscales8086
@tshaunscales8086 4 жыл бұрын
@@57bagre Where did you find your manual to rebuild your engine?
@jeffmclowry
@jeffmclowry Жыл бұрын
After you remove the outer bearing reinstall the inner nut about half way down the threads and use the hub as a slide hammer. It will knock the seal and rear bearing out with ease.
@Vertikala-pc5ig
@Vertikala-pc5ig 4 жыл бұрын
Great work! Would you know what is the tourq for the nut that holds steering wheel hub of 2005 Columbia. I need to change it
@57bagre
@57bagre 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know on your truck, mine is about 300 ft lbs. Better call your dealer and ask the service dept.
@joshuamercier1442
@joshuamercier1442 6 жыл бұрын
Good job explaining how to preload the bearing nut
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@akawireguy1197
@akawireguy1197 5 жыл бұрын
As I was watching this hard working man I was thinking about the number of seals and bearings I have replaced in hubs. I have had monstrous loads in my utility trailer and nothing I have ever installed has failed. I just tighten them down very snug to make sure they are seated, back all the way off, snug them and back off just to the first holder tab, or if they are aligned upon snugging (they never are) back off to the next nut flat. It's hard for an honest man to make an honest living.
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Shawn-rq4py
@Shawn-rq4py 5 жыл бұрын
My seal went out and when I got the parts I was told by John Deere parts Dept that I had to also change the race and bearings. I can figure out how to repair things but it takes me a while. I’m not a mechanic so I had no idea I didn’t need to replace the races. I got the old race out but after several hours and now I can’t get the new one in. My tractor has now been out of service for 2 months while I’ve tried near everything to get the new race back in. It’s been a nightmare and doesn’t look like there’s any end in sight.
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you're having trouble with that. The race isn't hard to change, just turn the hub upside down and find the slightly recessed area on each side of the bottom of the race where you can see part of the race on each side and use a punch of some kind and start knocking the race out 2 or 3 hits on alternating sides 'til the race falls out. for reinstall, please be sure you put the thick side of the new race down, put the old race on top of it the same way (thick side down) lay a block of wood or metal on top and start hammering it in until you hear the solid metal hit with each blow. Turn the hub over and knock out the 2nd race (old one)
@Shawn-rq4py
@Shawn-rq4py 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon Robertson DIY I wish it were that easy. Something is stopping the race from seating about 1/8” from the bottom. I’ve banged on it w everything I can think of and it will not budge. I even took it to John Deere and they used a race and bearing driver and couldn’t get it to move. I even put it in the freezer overnight to see if it would shrink ever so slightly so it would seat but even that didn’t work. I’m talking w the parts Dept to see if there’s a different race that goes there. Right now I’m just in limbo w a crap ton of work that needs doing in the field and a broke down tractor in my shop. It’s aggravating as heck
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the next step would be to weld a small bead on the inside of the race and douse it with water to shrink it and knock it out and start over.
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
if you damaged the bore where the race goes you can polish it very carefully with a dremel tool but the race needs to be a tight fit.
@marshallasher4543
@marshallasher4543 5 жыл бұрын
Yep! "thanks Mate" really enjoyed your video, like the way you do it the old tried and easy way; will you make it look easy anyway, so thanks.
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Marshall
@henryostman5740
@henryostman5740 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting and I am guilty myself. How did the world get along b4 they invented brake cleaner? what's in it anyways? Is brand x they same as brand y? God help us if this stuff was patented by snapon or mac.
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's good stuff. Thanks for watching.
@amascia8327
@amascia8327 7 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, about how many times have you replaced inner seals on axles? And, how many times have these wheels fallen off due to bearing failure? Sorry... It just amazes me how you got to be Public Enemy no 1 because some techi went to school and thinks he knows everything. Any real-world person knows tapered roller bearings have an amazing tolerance to adjustment. And while certain methods are more perfect, lots of methods are adequate. Obviously one would use the best tools available... a wooden seal driver could work without problems, eh? Mr Robertson you have an amazing array of skills and experience. I'd trust you before techi any day. But then again, I'm just a graduate Mechanical Engineer... what do I know?
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir, I didn't quite know how to respond to the 1st part of your comment so I just didn't. The answer is 3 seals on this truck on 3 different positions in 15 years, no bearing or seal failures on any of them afterwards. I did go to school for this work almost 40 years ago and never worked on big trucks before I bought this one, I did do some repairs on the company trucks I drove before I bought mine, just minor things, electrical or adjustments etc. I did work on cars and medium duty trucks full time for about 10 years and part time at home for many years after that while I was welding at a pipe shop and or machine shop at a foundry before going into trucking. I just do things my way at home and always get the job done or I don't upload it unless I'm sure I will finish it. I have a few small engine videos waiting for parts to arrive so I can finish them and upload, I don't want to put them up when I don't know when they will be done. I don't like wasting my time watching someone's video titled how to do something and they failed to successfully complete the job, I won't do that on purpose. Thanks again for the sub and the comments. Welcome aboard.
@frankrizzo5659
@frankrizzo5659 6 жыл бұрын
Ya exactly but i post a video how to change a piggy back brake chamber a faster safe way and get the 3rd degree because i use needle nose vise grips with 2 pieces of rubber hose over vice grips to protect the air hose while pinching off the airline working on the side of the interstate .....ya exactly seal doesn't come out beat the hell out of the hub and bearing eventually it'll come out....damaged hub and all lol
@factionlesswrx3256
@factionlesswrx3256 4 жыл бұрын
I mean since your a mechanical engineer, then you should know all about proper torque specs and the safety/reasoning behind them, this guy got the job done, but how many hrs did it take him compared to a professional tech, also what happens when those bearings have a failure and that wheel end comes off, potentially killing someone because of a few improper procedures that could of been avoided by going to a proper tech
@amascia8327
@amascia8327 4 жыл бұрын
@@factionlesswrx3256 Sure. Of course. And, none of his repairs have failed in any way... as his response stated. In other words, a shop must follow the proper tech & spex because of liability problems AND a regular experienced person can simply do what works. Again, tapered roller bearings seem to have amazing tolerance for installation technique. Me, ? I'd use the book approach... because I have no experience for doing any different. But, I'm not going to go against "what works" just "because," eh. "The best is the enemy of 'good enough'".
@factionlesswrx3256
@factionlesswrx3256 4 жыл бұрын
Not saying any of his failed, but I have seen ones that have failed, some of which that were done the same or similar ways in this video, I have also seen bearings that exploded inside causing the whole wheel end assembly to fall off while driving, because the bearings weren't 100% the proper ones from factory, and from not proper installation, again this works but when a failure happens you wanna risk someone else's life? Maybe an entire family or 2?
@theangrytruckerchannel359
@theangrytruckerchannel359 3 жыл бұрын
I have that same seal puller, works great
@benni9462
@benni9462 7 жыл бұрын
hi sir Gordon i love youre videos allways good info how and what Tim Taylor sure only works on trucks with only pro tools we use what we have and are good for the job
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir and thanks for subbing.
@benni9462
@benni9462 7 жыл бұрын
NP sir i been working on trucks and Excavator me self for 17 years I Nerver use pro tools they are costly And you can get the job done anyways Rock on Cordon
@chrismayer3919
@chrismayer3919 6 жыл бұрын
But how do you replace the oil/lube that initially ran out upon disassembly?
@nicholasmurano9539
@nicholasmurano9539 5 жыл бұрын
Raise the axle housing with the jack and using a long flex funnel..put a few ounces over the equivalent that poured out into the axle housing tube ... Check the fluid level at the differential housing before road testing.
@epiphanio4430
@epiphanio4430 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video s is big help for me thanks again mister.
@samuelavila2228
@samuelavila2228 5 жыл бұрын
How much torque should be put on the axle flange nuts?
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
50 ft lbs pre load on 1st lock nut then back it off 1/4 turn or a little less and then the lock ring and the 2nd lock nut, torque the 2nd lock nut to 200 and fold the lock ring tabs.
@vladimirtruckerus
@vladimirtruckerus 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Two questions. To put oil back to axle, is it from hub or middle of axles? And how many gallons of oil is in your axle? Thank you.
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
There's a plug on the differential just like on a pickup or a rear wheel drive car if I remember right it's on the right front side and takes a 1/2" drive ratchet or breaker bar, just take out the plug on level ground, put your finger in the hole if you can get any oil on your finger, you have enough, if you can't call your dealer to find out what kind of oil it calls for and buy a few quarts with the pointed top squeeze bottle and return what you don't need. fill the diff. until it starts to come out of the hole, if it's an inch low, not to worry, it's good. Thanks for the comment ( I don't know how much it holds, maybe 3 gallons if empty) if you jack up the side to work on high enough, you wont lose any oil to speak of (bottom of tire 3 or 4 inches off the ground)
@vladimirtruckerus
@vladimirtruckerus 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@cbmech2563
@cbmech2563 6 жыл бұрын
Vladimir Mineev Just before you install the outer bearing, fill the low area with gear oil and check axle oil level when you're done. I also coat the bearings with grease to protect them when you first start moving.
@calpow5605
@calpow5605 4 жыл бұрын
Torqued to spec. 😃 Salt of the earth bro. Thanks for the vid.
@christophercudia8354
@christophercudia8354 4 жыл бұрын
spin the hub to set it/ did you clean the bearing and repack it ?
@PhillyDiesel
@PhillyDiesel 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct, spin the hub is the proper way but you don’t pack bearings that sit in gear oil
@zaidchalabi1599
@zaidchalabi1599 3 жыл бұрын
how do you see leak ? on back of tire on drum
@AlbaniansForChrist
@AlbaniansForChrist 7 жыл бұрын
Gordon Robertson. Thank you for the video. I have changed my seal, but when I put everything back up, it didn't seem to want to go all the way in, so it didn't have room for the last 4 inch nut to spin.
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
you don't have the hub seated, you MUST have it seated, tighten the 1st nut tight about 50 ft. lbs. and then loosen it, snug it up again and back it off 1/4 turn, put on your lock washer and tighten the 2nd nut tight, the book says 200 ft. lbs. make sure it's at least 50 or 100 ft. lbs.
@AlbaniansForChrist
@AlbaniansForChrist 7 жыл бұрын
Gordon Robertson, thank you for the reply. I have already tighten it and got the job done. I just hope I didn't do it too much because it was spinning pretty hard. But I appreciate the information and all the help. Take care 👍🏼
@robb118821
@robb118821 8 жыл бұрын
best way ive found to getting seals out is using a long prybar that is square. put the pry bar between seal and bearing and twist the prybar with a big adjustable wrench.
@robb118821
@robb118821 8 жыл бұрын
dependind on the hub itll pop right out. if not chisel. collaps the seal in. wedge the chisel between seal and hub to move it inward slighly and punch inwards after that. clean up an chips the chisel made on hub.
@00Blqze
@00Blqze 7 жыл бұрын
good idea
@ipissed
@ipissed 7 жыл бұрын
Slide hammer.
@jimmylovell4465
@jimmylovell4465 7 жыл бұрын
crowfoot prybar two seconds it's out works every time
@69adrummer
@69adrummer 6 жыл бұрын
It's New Years 2018/2019 and I'm sitting here alone on the couch watching a guy replace axle seals on youtube....haha what a life.........ugh! haha
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
I'm home alone getting started on a video taking off the carburetors on my '88 Goldwing 1500 to clean them and debating weather or not to repaint it while it's in my shop. Thanks for watching and Happy new year to you.
@jonathanwilliams4501
@jonathanwilliams4501 4 жыл бұрын
If you turn the hub with the seal facing down on the drum you can take a hammer and bar and tap the inside race of inside bearing and pop the seal out...and you need to put oil in the hub before you stick it on there so you don’t burn the bearings up...
@CORKILL911
@CORKILL911 5 жыл бұрын
No torquing the inne nut ? 200-0-50? Scary stuff
@rpm12091
@rpm12091 5 жыл бұрын
CORKILL911 Did you read the title?
@guacamoleweiner69
@guacamoleweiner69 4 жыл бұрын
@@rpm12091 a torque wrench is not a special tool. It is a common, basic hand tool that everyone who works on auto/diesel must have. Also, the nut must be torqued.
@biscuitbone7045
@biscuitbone7045 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir but sir what destroys wheel seal
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Rust on the axle housing and just being old.
@317dougie
@317dougie 8 жыл бұрын
Great video watching from Cupar Scotland
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
Thank You for subscribing all the way from the USA.
@bottledwater2539
@bottledwater2539 7 жыл бұрын
just wonder why you dont use sandblaster/baking soda blaster to clean this up?
@cbmech2563
@cbmech2563 6 жыл бұрын
Bottled water Because you don't want to add that kind of debris to the bearing?
@Repent.Believe.obeyJesus
@Repent.Believe.obeyJesus 3 жыл бұрын
Because he is just a diy guy doesn't work in a real shop
@area-nr3ti
@area-nr3ti 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Gordon Happy Holiday's, do you have a video on replacing a fan clutch on a series 60?
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
No, sorry, I never had to do that on mine, not all of them are the same, the truck that I adjusted the clutch on has a different fan clutch than mine and both are same year and motor.
@davidhopper5115
@davidhopper5115 8 жыл бұрын
Next put the hub back in the drum when your pulling the seal
@erob1950
@erob1950 6 жыл бұрын
great job Gordon
@MrPaveles
@MrPaveles 7 жыл бұрын
What kind of bottle jack you're using and where to get one?
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
The air bottle jack can be found at Harbor Freight, northerntool.com or Amazon.com or any automotive tool supply. The straight bottle jack can be found at Home Depot, Lowes, and at the previous mentioned stores. your best prices will be at Harbor Freight and Amazon, if you don't have a store near you, both of them will ship it to you. here's a link to my video on jacking up a big truck,kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4G0emqPqtGUa5o Thanks for watching.
@blokebeershed7651
@blokebeershed7651 7 жыл бұрын
is that a black snake rattle gun?
@TienNguyen-ck2mw
@TienNguyen-ck2mw 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video , I like it and that sound great how your work.
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@rezzgoatrising1829
@rezzgoatrising1829 6 жыл бұрын
Old school hell yeah..... and I don’t miss doing that at all
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching.
@ArmaGuyz
@ArmaGuyz 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man I understand your doing your doing this at home, but they do make Seal Drivers if this is something you do a lot get one. If you are installing the older red seals get you some some permatex and paint it on the seals wider rim then make sure the bearing is sitting flush before you place that seal over the hub. Get you a bigger hammer too if you can a 9lb sledge with a sawn off handle to about 9 inches or so,works well. It should only take two hits with a proper seal driver and the right sized hammer just hit it like you live HARD. One to set it and one to seal it just keep the driver flush and hit the driver dead on the head flush. If your using the newer blue seals then you dont need permatex (Gasket Sealant) They have done away with the old red seals Im told. It looks like you need a 20K driver but I would get a 10k as well if you do this alot same hammer with the 10K but one hit two will knock the seal in too far. I built hundreds of these daily for years. between 300-600 or more a day. Bearing and seal installation for Dual wheel. I even built these in my sleep lol.
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your concern and the comment. This was the 3rd hub I changed the seal on this truck since I bought it 14 yrs. ago, there is still 1 hub left that hasn't leaked yet, when it does need to be changed, I will do another video and I will buy a socket for the locknuts on the bearings since I caught some negative comments over that and I understand that some people at home may not know how tight is enough the way I did it here. I have been installing seals on all kinds of equipment hundreds of times for over 40 years and only bought a driver 1 time for the transmission on this same truck for a 2 pc. seal that did not work very good and I had to replace it about 5 years later, it was leaking the whole time but not too bad until I had to change it, the new seal was 1pc and much better and doesn't leak to this day, I took a piece of 3/4 plywood about 8" sq. and cut a round hole in it maybe 3" or 4 " for the output shaft and installed it with that. When a seal is not coated or the coating looks doubtful I wipe a little silicone on it 1st.
@smenh1
@smenh1 7 жыл бұрын
If you put the hub in the drum when you take the seal out it will help hold it
@cbmech2563
@cbmech2563 6 жыл бұрын
Put the hub back on the housing backwards makes it a lot easier to pop the seal out. Using c/r Scott seal, it will leak. National 37 or 38 series are best
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'll try that next time.
@robb118821
@robb118821 8 жыл бұрын
did you not pre load the bearings? those bearings are likely going on very loose. its much easier to do it by feel with a ratchet and socket if a tq wrench isnt available. using this method can be very dangerous.
@oliverdiaz8804
@oliverdiaz8804 8 жыл бұрын
how do you put the oil on it??
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
You're supposed to put a little oil in the hub before you put the axle back in, but if the bearing is wet with oil and the differential is full or real close to full as soon as you drive away the differential will pump oil to the hub.
@hillonwheels8838
@hillonwheels8838 6 жыл бұрын
I have worked on cars and light trucks for years and seeing you do the brakes and this seal looks way easier than what i'm used to. The hardest part looks to be the weight and size of all the parts. The weight of a light truck hub may weigh 2 lbs where yours looks to be 10+ lbs. Great video, I like to learn new things like this.
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and subbing. I have newer videos on brakes that are faster and easier.
@bcmc
@bcmc 7 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you ever show the finished 60 series running after the rebuild
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
I did, there's 14 parts to the rebuild series, plus a recap video, and a fan clutch video after the rebuild, go to my channel and click on videos and it's on the last 3 videos at the time of this message. Or click on playlists and save a copy of the playlist of the series.
@feeneysmechanical6215
@feeneysmechanical6215 8 жыл бұрын
I also vasoline where the seal will sit. Goes to together well.
@IndianTruckWorkshop
@IndianTruckWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Great work buddy 👍👍👍
@SFtruckerWolf
@SFtruckerWolf 7 жыл бұрын
If have casett bearing then tightening is different also bearing is not coming out in parts. But on casett bearing just tighten so hard what can. I hammer it tight with 3000 Nm air gun. Not some other locking there.
@mkloppel
@mkloppel 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. The hub seal on my IHC 4700 tossed oil everywhere and I hadn't the slightest clue how to fix it. Seems like a very easy job.
@jesusian7
@jesusian7 5 жыл бұрын
Mine is going now on my IHC
@zephyteh2628
@zephyteh2628 6 жыл бұрын
You didn't preload?
@57bagre
@57bagre 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I did, I just missed it on the video. It was one of my 1st videos and was not familiar with the camera or making videos.
@zephyteh2628
@zephyteh2628 6 жыл бұрын
Gordon Robertson ok nice
@Baljitsingh-xt1hg
@Baljitsingh-xt1hg 5 жыл бұрын
Great job
@57bagre
@57bagre 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@45bam
@45bam 5 жыл бұрын
Idk but that back yard style. I would use torque trench to adjust my bearing. Doing by feel kind of stupid.
@JoiRideProductions
@JoiRideProductions 5 жыл бұрын
@Robert Condon Pretty normal to do it by feel in a shop.
@gutierrezgorila
@gutierrezgorila 4 жыл бұрын
I have done maybe 100 times wheel seals with out using torque tools. No problems so far. And I don't think is stupid
@joshhead9368
@joshhead9368 4 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity do you guys check end play with a dial after you're all tightened up. Or can you get that by feel aswell? Seems like it would be easy to put it too tight without checking.
@billyadams9985
@billyadams9985 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshhead9368 I don't but I know u should... Anyone else notice his outer nut was kind of loose?
@regularcabguy7865
@regularcabguy7865 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thank you sir!
@shaiknawabsahab4178
@shaiknawabsahab4178 6 жыл бұрын
First must be clean good... Second must be checked the hub and bearings adjustment.. Third all bearings must be put in under grease.. And fitted that..
@1chevroletcorvette
@1chevroletcorvette 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong! Your a hack
@Steve.Vaught
@Steve.Vaught 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@stenyang2007
@stenyang2007 3 жыл бұрын
When you take off oil seal,I think you made some damage to bearing。
@dennisgood2108
@dennisgood2108 8 жыл бұрын
I notice you are using white paper towels i believe.Would you coment if so.I use a lot of paper towels also,the blue ones and white.I know the white ones are a lot cheaper to buy.Thanks
@57bagre
@57bagre 8 жыл бұрын
Yes I use white paper when I'm not worried about lint getting into the parts where it could cause trouble, the blue disposable shop towels are less likely to leave lint and fragments behind but are expensive and I don't buy them, I just use cloth rags for that. Thanks for subscribing.
@dennisgood2108
@dennisgood2108 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply,i was just wondering because i go thru a lot of paper towels
@eieio-mn9pm
@eieio-mn9pm 6 жыл бұрын
dennis good veterans thrift store sell ya a bag o rags for cheap ....I wash em several times
@jimstone2286
@jimstone2286 2 жыл бұрын
Put that hub over, set it on top of the drum and use a punch to drive the seal out from the inside only touch the bearing on the cone and not the cage. Bearing and seal will pop out a whole lot easier than it did on this video
@polytech100
@polytech100 6 жыл бұрын
put the hub in the drum,studs thru the drum holes, when prying out the seal, use the weight of the drum to hold it down, lots easier
@rcracer641
@rcracer641 7 жыл бұрын
I really liked your video. Thanks.
@57bagre
@57bagre 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting.
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