#59-Jason Fung, M.D: Fasting as an antidote to obesity, insulin resistance, T2D, & metabolic illness

[@debrawalker4642]

I prefer Dr Jason Fung's way of helping patients.

[@iamdedlok]

Dr Jason Fung and Dr Peter Attia, thank you so much for the talk! I am a software engineer, and 0 knowledge on medical stuff. This talk was very enlightening, you both talk with so much passion and clarity. Respect! It makes me wish I went into the field of Medicine. My Dad, Mom and Grandfather all were Diabetic and passed away because of this exact faulty treatment , pump excess insulin into them. I want to make sure all my family and friends do not fall into this same hellish trap! I am myself overweight, but with the help of Intermittent Fasting , I have reduced 40 lbs in last 4 months. Thank you Dr Fung! Keep up the good work, you guys are saving millions of lives!!

[@kilquik88]

Great post congratulations on the weight loss!

[@nativetexan6628]

Ahh, I am so sorry about your family.

[@janedoll3237]

Unfortunately, going into the medical field indoctrinates people. Growing up I always respected doctors and higher education but they have a lot of failures and corruption to answer for. You’d think intelligent doctors would be in better health than “stupid dudebros” but they’re usually not. It’s a strange world 🤷‍♀️

[@paulrichard4945]

Kudos for the video content! Sorry for chiming in, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you heard the talk about - Mackorny Ejaculation Remedy Blueprint (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now)? It is a good one of a kind guide for Curing Premature Ejaculation minus the normal expense. Ive heard some awesome things about it and my friend Sam after a lifetime of fighting got amazing success with it.

[@dana102083]

I hear ya so much.. 3 grandparents and most aunts and uncles are riddled with high blood pressure, obesity, heart disease and diabetes. My mom gestational with me and my dad's mom lost her life from gangrene/using insulin (stubbed her toe and the body rotting began). Ive been keto over 3 yrs now and Im begging my family. Im an RN and im fighting their trusted doctors and now people don't wanna talk since its the center focus of my life and they dont want to address it! I went from obese my whole life to remaining thin 3 years very effortlessly. Metabolic tests amazing..but they would rather use food to cope..we are are addicted bunch. One cousin did atkins and did amazing but went back to carbs. His wife got a lap band i believe.. Lost tons..but gaining a lot again. My mom has heard my pleas but hasn't been consistent yet..but told me she felt so good in ketosis and i told her to write it and put it on her mirror to see everyday. She had a love affair with bread but acknowledged she hasnt eaten it for 3 months and never thought she could. I know she will help tell the masses better than I can once they see her progress too. Her 2md sister is diagnosed with diabetes and her turning 65 this year has made all the difference to her. She cooks for my dad and he read Nina Teicholz "the big fat lie" so I really hope they can learn to have keto desserts. And keep it up to enjoy their golden years! 🙏💗

[@tomrobertson3236]

My grandparents fasted every Wednesday I'm sorry I never asked them why I'm a truck drive with a lot of down time so I watch a lot of video. Started with david Sinclair Amazed of his cutting edge research Then youtube started recommended more medical videos About 75 percent were logical like this one According to Sinclair, fasting after the 8th hour starts burning fat As the fast goes on your body goes on a recycle search . Picking up broken pieces and non usable . Your body actually gets cleaned up . At 65 , I've had liver spots , about 6 start up . After intermittent fasting 8 times they are gone since body decided that they were extra . With my night working schedule I've decide from friday morn to Saturday morn to be my 24 hour fast to help me switch back to a daytime schedule so I can enjoy my family on the weekend . Wife is type 2 She will have to listen to this No matter what

[@ayeshavlogsfun]

please share Link where Sinclair Ask that After 8th Hour Fast Body Start Burning Fat i have Listened to Dr Valter Longo he Says after 12th Hour it starts Burning Fat

[@lizaalexeeva7009]

On wednesdays we fast Mean girls reference 😆

[@dinomiles7999]

Time restricted feeding also works . TRF..... A 10 HR....OR 8 HR... FEEDING WINDOW WORKS GREAT EVERY DAY .

[@dana102083]

@@ayeshavlogsfun I would hold valter longo true as 16 hrs is where 'more than fat' loss starts.

[@joshz9929]

How two brilliant physicians could have a technical conversation and make it so easy to listen to for the layperson is a gem of a KZbin video.

[@mikevaldez7684]

I'll second that motion, but with the addendum that I was an engineering major with a minor in biology.....I love science, mathematics & medicine....💯🙋🙏

[@melissathomas145]

I could listen to Fung all day. Wait, I already do. Love him. I search out all his lectures. His message so simple for the not medically educated and for the rest of us that are medically knowledge. Fantastic podcast. Thanks Peter. I downloaded this episode which is a high compliment. Take care and fast on!

[@tukity]

dr. fung's analogies are awesome. he makes it super easy for layman to understand the concepts.

[@Redheadedlady55]

~Indeed...& so peaceful.

[@erastvandoren]

His analogies are moronic and wrong.

[@mazachek]

Appreciated his "what to expect when you're expecting" analogy

[@Chris-tw8fu]

I listen to Dr. Fung a lot but this is one of the best.Peter is struggling too keep up.shows how super knowledgeable Dr. Fung is compared to most.

[@SuperDoggy99]

As a software engineer who has studied logic and physics for over 35 years, I experience untold levels of incredulity when I listen to medical podcasts that go into the shoddy science and history of certain medical treatments (many of which are still practiced today). I don't understand how anything gets done in medicine, given the glacial pace and the absurd number of wrong turns--only to be followed by entrenched systems of belief that ensure continued pain and suffering. It's frightening.

[@LTPottenger]

Studies aren't science, they are statistics. They make sense for drug trials to prove it does not immediately kill the subjects but otherwise it has little use but in the preliminary sense. The real science is chemistry and by chemistry we know it works.

[@HEARTANDSOULOFMINE]

Amen.

[@Michael-4]

I was with someone one morning, a T2D with weeping legs. Every day a DN would turn up to check and change the bandages. Another nurse turns up to administer insulin saying don't forget to keep your BG up by eating a healthy breakfast. Her recommendation was cereal with skim milk, toast with a low fat spread and jam. All washed down with a glass of juice.

[@PatriotChik]

Awful

[@lmaoyourekiddingme]

OH MY GOD

[@oraliaortiz6791]

Such an amazing episode, listened to eat while driving and while studying my diabetes lecture for nursing program at home. I have DM2 and my goodness I feel motivated to continue my journey to a better health. Thank you for sharing such important information. I wish the whole world could hear it.

[@sidmichael1158]

What's dm2?

[@oraliaortiz6791]

Diabetes Melitus Type 2

[@edwigcarol4888]

@@oraliaortiz6791 jason fung have an online support program, with individual advisers. Some travels to toronto per year. Regular phone calls... International network.. I would do it... Wish you a good health

[@dana102083]

I am an RN and understand the knowledge in schools propagate poor information exchange. I have a fb group "keto for chronic disease management" for evidence based information. I was on my wat to DM2 as well..hit 300 lbs after nursing school and teach health care aides that there is more science that's in their text book and explain why its important to avoid insulin resistance. Good luck Im here if you have questions!

[@lynlawley8903]

@@dana102083 well you can pass on these highly helpfull infocasts to you're training and health will get so much better,and theirs to ,also how to help others would be so fab you would be an asset to the community ,,,wish you lived in my community ,

[@helendillard7784]

So helpful, two giants in this field. I wish all doctors could hear this!

[@davidcoffey3872]

I'm a doctor , and i also wish all doctors could hear this !

[@TebTengri]

~7:30 to get to the interview

[@gerryjtierney]

King

[@YAVIAH]

MVP

[@gilbert4556]

the two men that changed my life at the same time. Thank you both

[@edwigcarol4888]

2:09 that is fot me, but i am already on that way, for others and for me: "if you are dogmatic you have never seen a patient" I am the patient of myself! after two years of different adjustments within the realm of keto, IF and TRE I am still improving, trying, failing, getting insights: on my own metabolic personality... Mindfulness selfrespect, patience help a lot, as well as listening to such great physicians here! I must confess I was arrogant and dogmatic when wanting to help my overweighted sister... Now i recognize how important is her stress level: way too much cortisol: other problem, other ways...

[@Courage10.18]

Great Information! I truly appreciate both approaches from both of these doctors! I do have to say that if I were faced with hating 7 days of my life vs losing a foot and hating the rest of my life, I choose the 7 days. Thankfully I don't have to choose. I do *love* the supportive individual approach.

[@dana102083]

That's the unfortunate thing about the world.. The majority are getting closer to amputation every year with a "it wont happen to me" attitude or that diabetes is ok to live with..its genetic i have no control over it.. I remember the exact conversation I had with my mom as she said diabetes runs in my family.. I said how do you know its genetic when our cultural foods are also passed down through family? The perogies, cabbage rolls and sweets 6x a day with tea mentality in many cultures needs to stop. We do not always need to be eating!! Scary world we live in..

[@deathrat]

Peter, I value your content but 20 dollars per month is not feasible as a low SES college student. If you can have different rates for different benefits, I believe more people would be willing to contribute to the great work you're doing. best, G

[@alexi2460]

Love Dr. Jason, found him during the pandemic and his inspiration and research has truely given me a more healthy eating routine.

[@7karlheinz]

I also discovered his YT videos during the pandemic and lost 40 lbs when most people gained weight during covid lockdown.

[@greendeane1]

I don't eat every weekend, fasting from Friday supper to Monday breakfast. It's not physically tough but one does miss the pleasure three times a day.

[@dariennechouinard8369]

A meeting of brilliant minds! Attia and Fung have helped me understand and feel empowered to work on my health, after spending most of my life feeling underserved or ignored by the medicine available to me.

[@edvedder7835]

Great informative interview! Think I'll have to listen to it a couple of times over in order to process everything. One of the first times I've listened to "the drive" where Peter really listens to the guest more than he speaks.

[@rca2245]

Brave doctors going against the status quo and their patient’s successful results showing their analyses are legitimate. Dr Fung’s explanations of how things work in the body make sense even to a layperson, like myself.

[@kostar500]

Both are great speakers and have deep knowledge on insulin, metabolic illness.

[@lynlawley8903]

This helped me see where im going wrong ,,to many carbs and low fat and to often ,,I need to realign with a fast to clear out stuff and reset if at all possible

[@gruberjohn1]

My family doctor watched me develope type 2 diabetes over the course of years. He was fired years ago.He knew just what to look for as he gave a new and more drugs over the years.

[@dana102083]

Are you on a ketogenic diet now?

[@lynlawley8903]

Why would he do that ,,how do they live with ,,their death wishes,,to people with those disease,s

[@gruberjohn1]

@lynlawley8903 docs just follow directions. Few can or are allowed to deviate from the norm by using common sense and experience.

[@lynlawley8903]

So what type of diet are you on now and have you tried fasting ,,

[@g.c.w3382]

Many of my friends and family would benefit from this information. Their carbohydrate addiction has them bound.

[@HEARTANDSOULOFMINE]

Powerful podcast! Dr. Fung is the "Godfather of Fasting." Any listener that garnered life changing knowledge from the exchanges of these two medical doctors would also realize identical results by learning from "fat cell" researcher and scientist, Dr. Ben Bikman--another talented and awesome communicator who explains the complex system of human metabolism.

[@angaleimotu]

Dr Fung, David Sinclair amd Valter Longo are the three guys I follow on Fasting and Longevity

[@VerySeriousUser]

I have listened to many hundreds, if not thousands, of hours of talks like this one but this is definitely one of the most useful and interesting I have ever heard.

[@erastvandoren]

Least useful and absolutely moronic.

[@VerySeriousUser]

@@erastvandoren Why?

[@erastvandoren]

@@VerySeriousUser Because he doesn't know biochemistry and everything he says is wrong. Listen to the podcast #140 with Gerald Shulman - he says exactly how it is. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hau9hqGiaMdnb7c

[@VerySeriousUser]

@@erastvandoren I'll listen to it when I get time. He's obviously not wrong on anything so that's just ridiculous.

[@dageide6008]

The pharaceutical industry will loose billions on you guys. Insulin preps are their biggest deal ever. You`r realy great guys, and Peter Attia, I will support you and pay the membership with pleasure, and Jason Fung start up the same way, I am coming.

[@jessicamoase5570]

Loved this so much. Would love a new interview 🙂

[@LenoreS430]

I always thought the sleep thing was just because digesting took so much energy, I just didn't need as much sleep. I'm loving all this info. I'm eating it up (instead of refined carbs and sugar) ;)

[@Smooooove25]

I love you Dr. Fung; even though you're not my personal doctor...you're actually my very own personal "KZbin" doctor! 🥳🤭🥳

[@SebastianLarsen]

Please. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6bHpGOPYquDmassi=_mKxwgscBmG96RxD

[@jamesgordon8867]

I wish everyone heard this discussion. We need to learn how to eat in a sea of carbs😊

[@HybridDrJ]

Another amazing deep dive into such important physiology. Keep it coming! Thanks Peter and Jason!

[@anonymousanonymous7304]

I was listening to a different lecture (8 years old) with Peter that has closed comments now. Wow on finding that burning fat works better than burning carbs in the mountains. I think I noticed the same. Also loved how it feels to burn fat instead of carbs. That I could think so much clearer.

[@Redheadedlady55]

~Enjoyed this very much...thank you both for trying to reach out to help us all understand the body we live in everyday...thx again.

[@lizaalexeeva7009]

Wow, this was so good. Im 17 and never had IR problems but hope I can help someone with this knowledge. Peter attia is the guy I rly look up too😄

[@MarleneLiraMarrero]

I wish I knew this info at 17, good 👍

[@dana102083]

You have time to prevent it yourself using this knowledge!! iR takes decades and you have a head start 🙏

[@rodrigodezubiria2007]

Fantastic Thank you both for absolutely amazing two hours. You have totally re sparked my interest in medicine

[@greendeane1]

I fast every weekend, Friday supper to Monday breakfast.

[@nicholasgasper6416]

Thank you for all the information you provide, I am really trying to change my life so that I can live longer and be there for my kids. I’m 6’5” and was over 400 pounds last year. I’m at 309 now, and I’m trying to change the way I live instead of yo-yoing forever. I really appreciate people like you that do this.

[@marydo3175]

The cause of Hyperinsulinemia is energy toxicity, be it glucose or fat. Even though we often says that because the cells are full of glucose, that is why they protect themselves by not allowing more glucose coming in, consequently insulin is secreted more and more to push the glucose into cells. The same logic should be applied to a similar situation that cells are full of fat and to protect themselves, they refuse any more energy in the form of fat or glucose to come in. This explains why even in my case, being on keto for almost 3 years, eating less than 10g carb most of the time, except for some days of the month I would consume up to 70g of carbs, but just by over consuming fat in relative to my small frame and not so active, I put on 10kg over 6 months, my insulin went from 5.2 to 5.7 !!! This really proves my own hypothesis that hyperinsulinemia can be caused by both too much carb or too much fat in the diet . The carb can come in the form of fructose and in that case, the liver will get fat before the adipocytes, so the person may not look overweight for a while. If carbs come in the form of glucose, then both the liver and adipose tissues will be fat simultaneously and the overweight look may be more apparent. If the person eat high fat, low carb like myself, the adipocytes may get fat and refuse the energy, before the liver cells do. My overfilled fat cells will do 2 things, they refuse energy coming in either as fat or glucose and this cause hyperinsulinemia. They also start leaking out tryglycerides and these fat will start depositing themselves in various internal organs including the luver, pancreas, heart, and eventually this also result in hyperinsulinemia via the same mechanism.This is not to mention that overfat cells can burst and die, resulting in inflammation which also contribute to insulin resistance. My conclusion is that both fat and carbs if above the level that your personal threshold can handle can result in hyperinsulinemia via a number of routes, but they all interrelated, meaning they can make one another worse. I will surely continue my very low carb diet, but will not give fat a free pass either.

[@iss8504]

Yes at some point it's still about excessive energy intake. Fasting actually kills hunger, you need to do more

[@seitanbeatsyourmeat666]

Why would you continue a diet that’s going to kill you? Weird

[@stanimilanikolova926]

Great job explaining complex concepts

[@dilawarjavaid9504]

Amazing podcast.

[@rgcamsf]

Dr. Attia, thank as always. Your point about entering ketosis prior to an extended fast was a helpful detail amongt a high volume of useful information.

[@susannemcallister]

If a person gets fat the cells in their body expand and grow larger, infused with lipids. Inflammation markers and macrophages (inflammation cells) are recruited to the vicinity of the fat cells. The whole body of an overweight or obese person is inflamed. The cosmetic issue associated with being obese is by far the least problematic aspect of obesity.

[@g.c.w3382]

Thank God for the internet. How else would we know.

[@edwardaligonzalez123]

Thanks for all your info, n for genuinely caring about better health without so much medication 💪🏽👍🏾

[@Amanda.c91]

question for the docs. how come with patients in DKA in the ER, we put them on an insulin drip and resultantly their triglycerides (often near 1000) drop? If insulin is anabolic for fat and muscle cells🤔.... I've always wondered this, never understood it. help me out docs, from an ER nurse that does IF on the daily! Twelve hour shifts, dinner to dinner, no food, no problem😉I love OMAD lol great interview! love Dr Fung!

[@mntestav]

Agree on the time restricted feeding, but there is fairly compelling evidence that eating earlier requires less insulin than later. Just as a anecdote is I am a type one diabetic, and there is a significant difference for me on insulin dosing for the same protein, calories early vs late. All this to say, breakfast is not important, but I bias calories early and I need less insulin as a resutl

[@HEARTANDSOULOFMINE]

Very interesting. I have recently moved to OMAD. Our ancestors of long ago must have hunted in the early hours of the day and ate their catch at midday. 😊 So now I need to switch from one 6 pm meal to a noon meal. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@Pam-u9b]

One of the best discussions I have heard in the drive. Thanks to both of you!!

[@aa-xn5hc]

Fung is great

[@valerie4707]

Fantastic podcast!! Love the analogies, humour, and both your experience with in-clinic with actual patients. Dr. Fung's patient's diabetic foot ulcer healing within a matter of weeks was mind-blowing!! Thanks, Dr. Attia, for asking about the electrolytes while fasting, as well as the gallbladder question at the end - both have been on my mind as I start my fasting journey. Literal LOLs at Dr. Fung's son's school trip and "Your son is going on a trip, but don't worry we're going to give him lots of snacks. I'm like, 'Ugh, why, why did you need to do that?!'" and "As soon as you get up, you gotta start putting muffins in your mouth, otherwise you're going to die!!" :D

[@johnm.4655]

Hi Docrors! Please use your teaching gifts tto explain the function of GLUCAGON in the body in relation to INSULIN when doing a carb restricted diet or fasting. It seems GLUCAGON has been overlooked in many presentations as the primary ANTI INSULIN HORMONE and fat burner in the weight loss journey. 👍Also, just want want to offer you both a thousand thanks for your work! 🤗😊You finally helped me understand the Obesity disease problem I've dealt with my entire life. I finally realize "THEY" lied to me: Obesity is NOT a MORAL problem but a HORMONAL MEDICAL problem. It's not my moral fault as the Patient (sloth, gluttony), it's the Medical System's fault (greed, disloyalty, arrogance) for giving me the wrong education on what TYPES of foods I I need to be eating to lose weight long term. The Medical System is the immoral agent in the scenario and not me!! 😠😡

[@itayshorek6872]

funny this is my comment after hearing this but PETER, you are a gem

[@prbr7095]

Great, great guest and content!!!!!

[@LTPottenger]

You would have to have something much more extreme than the fasting mimicking diet once in a while to have serious longevity benefits and even pretty extreme fasting may not actually increase the ultimate limit past a 120-130 year lifespan.

[@jimking6484]

Great interview. 2 of my favorites

[@jamestdingle7963]

Randle Cycle is active when cells are full of glucose and or fatty acids. This is a self preservation mechanism that is perfectly natural and explains why some cells are resistant and others are not. Lowering insulin is simply acheived by lowering glucose! Eat less carbohydrate and less often!

[@estherokon9895]

The day I came across Dr Igudia KZbin channel was the day I started living a more comfortable life again after using his natural herbs medication in curing my type 2 diabetes completely

[@QuaaludeCharlie]

I take 3 Hydrocodone 7.5 with 2 Large 16 Oz Coffee's every time I Wake up from at Least 4 Hours of Sleep and that Helps with the Inflammation .

[@georgeelgin3903]

Ironic this came up on my feed; i had been rereading dr F's earlier book "obesity code ". He has a rare talent of looking deeply. The suit case paradigm is only useful for a single cell. And somewhat forgets the wife isn't yelling but dumping suitcases inside LDL.. Feldman calls this the FedEx truck not the airplane. I think i read [fung books' ?] every cell in the body is within 5 cells of a blood transport cell [cappillary artery etc. The kidney even more dense. I would like to clip parts of this video [it's how i learn suitcases on my bookshelf] but you tube won;t let me put into a comment (or any liink)... u should consider turning on superthanks here i didn't want to subscribe but would donate occasionally ge

[@kathleenjones8501]

Wonderful podcast. Thank you both so much- what a great conversation

[@HafizAbdallah]

Great podcast, but it bothered me that they are ignoring GLP-1 receptor agonists. GLP-1 RA will increase insulin secretion in glucose dependent fashion ->Higher serum insulin levels. However GLP- RA are essentially a first line anti-obesity drug. While it might not disprove their point of hyperinsulinemia, it definitely needs to be mentioned. Also GLP-1 RA have some cardioprotective effect and recommended in CAD.

[@Raineydazewin]

I thought the same thing!

[@Ghrainne]

it is a youtube video. This is not medical school. Ok we all now know that you are so brilliant, and I guess these presenters are stupid...is that your point ...such arrogance .. wake up my dear LOL. you are a funny person.

[@HafizAbdallah]

Raymond J Fox Dr. Attia is super smart, obviously. That’s why I thought he’d try and challenge Fung a bit by throwing in the case of GLP-1 RA because at least at first glance (in my brain), it appears to be evidence against Fung’s argument on hyperinsulinemia. I’m just a resident, not on their level but it’s always good to challenge ideas, don’t care who it is.

[@crimpers5543]

I don't see how this is a counterpoint to the concept of hyperinsulinemia. Seems completely independent: Low blood sugar levels (hypoglycemia) are a more serious risk linked to the GLP-1 class of drugs. But the risk of low blood sugar levels often only goes up if you're also taking another drug known to lower blood sugar at the same time, such as sulfonylureas or insulin.

[@nataliajimenez1870]

GLP-1 agonists slow down gastric emptying (which can become so extreme that it becomes a severe side effect) and reduce appetite so their actual effect on insulin is to reduce its overall levels

[@mikevaldez7684]

40:14, the extension of the suitcase analogy by Peter to explain hyperinsulinism is brilliant. Fascinating topic !💯🙋🙏43:17 he extends the analog: "you're just an insensitive guy"! Genius😂💯🙋🙏

[@jdram58]

Id call this like an out of the park home run but still under the radar but it building

[@anabel1012]

Great information!

[@marvinnelson5073]

Your risk of doing something vs the risk of not doing something isn’t the same for different things and seems to hinge on the risk of the doctor. So surgery and drugs are done beyond the point an analysis of risk for the patient would go. They are driven by the doctor is at less risk by doing something, even if harmful. Then you come to diet. As long as the doctor just goes with the standard advise, which is killing a lot of people, the doctor has little risk. If the doctor goes to very strong interventions to benefit the patient, the doctor is at a higher risk, because he is outside the standard worse than worthless practice.

[@robinakridge3159]

A nagging question I have is if you actually take the insulin out using semaglutide , what could be the reason for muscle loss seen in many patients and is it related? Do the muscle cells interpret the decreased insulin as a reduced need for the muscle cells and starts to atrophy?

[@jamesgordon8867]

Can't wait for you to have Bikman & learn about photobiomodulation 😊

[@g.c.w3382]

I had this discussion with my health providers. They told me that a whole food type of diet was unsustainable.

[@DoctorJammer]

Not sure what they mean by unsustainable, like in what context? Honestly a strict whole food diet is unsustainable for a lot of people. Many people don't have the time, money, and access to make the diet feasible.

[@joeamrine7450]

So just got my lab results... turns out I have full blow diabetes... I was a bit surprised given I have a BMI of 19... I realize this is an n=1 but this has had a strong impact on the way I view diabetes... again realize this is an n=1 and maybe I’m focusing too much on this one case but I’ve strongly become biased against the utility of BMI and excess fat(at least subcutaneous fat) as a reliable predictor for insulin resistance...

[@dinomiles7999]

Fasting .

[@x.y.7385]

Have you had previous labs that would indicate DT2 would eventually materialize ?

[@nadinabbott3991]

Got a name, thin on the outside fat on the inside. After you finish with this, read metabolical by Dr Lustig, or watch the many videos here on KZbin.

[@HEARTANDSOULOFMINE]

What type of diabetes? If Type 1, it might explain BMI of 19.

[@mazachek]

He said "hasn't oxidized a fatty acid since guns 'n roses was popular" 😂

[@jdram58]

I love these videos Im a spirit filled fasting and praying prophet whats not to like wen they explain the natural benefits its a hard message to preach the cure is inside of you somebody put it in there so we could survive in the worst possible situati9ons as long as you have water and you will have plenty of energy in a place you think you may die. Nope ure gonna survive or even thrive ,once ur in Ketosis

[@GoGreenHeating]

You should consider setting up the join button next to the subscribe.. I would totally join this channel and be a monthly financial contributor..

[@kathiefleming2830]

What is a type Ii suppose to do? My doc says keto is bad ( been thru lots of docs all say same standard of practice dogma)stopped my insulin keto and TRE and in 4 months dropped 40lbs labs good. Put me back on insulin bec said labs said I was DKA I had no symptoms but she told me I needed to go to Er get admitted. ER was too crowded. Anyway, gained all weight back. I’m 68, diag 2006 What to do.?I Can’t hardly move about so can’t exc any more right now.

[@DoggieFosters]

So, why do the suitcases get too full in some people but not in others with the same habits?

[@scottk1525]

New Drinking Game: Every time Fung says "right?" take a tiny sip. See you in the ER.

[@aprilsaccountabilityaccoun2889]

But with IF and low carb- not at risk for NAFLD, if i play this game I will then get AFLD!

[@suea8263]

Right.

[@Redheadedlady55]

~Dr.... can say right all day long...he has the knowledge & desire to want to help people...RIGHT!!

[@scottk1525]

@@Redheadedlady55 He can do whatever he wants. He'll just be annoying af. If that's what he's going for, he's nailing it.

[@candywoodgate1269]

A tiny sip of apple cider vinegar - through a straw (mind your teeth) xx

[@johnvanderbur2211]

Is fasting a possiblilty with ckd?

[@ruiveiga2599]

Unbelievable work, congrats!

[@shivanandiwada2728]

@51.42: What about metformin?

[@BigPictureYT]

Great discussion! However, I think that you need to invent a new word to describe too much glucose in the liver. Hyperglycemia means too much glucose in the blood, but as you've shown, the problem is too much glucose in the liver. The insulin is a direct response to the presence of the glucose. If you lowered the insulin without lowering the glucose in the liver, you would not help the patient. Intermittent fasting, as you advocate, lowers the glucose in the liver, and then the hyperinsulinemia automatically disappears.

[@sidmichael1158]

Do you have anything related to Gout and uric acid topics？

[@candywoodgate1269]

Go to Dr Ken Berry, I listened to one recently.

[@sidmichael1158]

@@candywoodgate1269 lol. That guy doesn't do clinical study

[@nativetexan6628]

Funny, he realizes that Asian diet are rice and noodles. We in the South are based on potatoes, rice, noodles, think mac'n'cheese, breads, cakes and pies. They just eat a ton more vegetables on top of it. 😆🤣

[@kristifaulkner4968]

Can I take my supplements and prebiotic fiber drink during my restricted eating time or is that considered food? It does register carbs because of the drink that I use to take my supplements.

[@ogeredmon6665]

So how does doctor jason explain insulin resistance in lean individuals?

[@murimurimrui]

You might want to get your pancreas and liver checked.

[@nataliajimenez1870]

Generally they have issues with their fat storage. They have trouble growing adipose tissues and they store their excess energy quickly in their organs. Those are the TOFI's (thin on the outside, fat on the inside) that account for so many diabetes cases in East and South Asia. Other populations can become extremely fat before developing full blown diabetes because they gave better capacity to turn excess energy into fat stores in peripheral adipose tissue

[@catwhite8614]

i have a question, if a type 2 patient has reversed ,could he/she still be able to eat carbs or their life can only depends on low carb diet?

[@jdram58]

Im oin the same boat foot ulcer/ toes n Im fasting now how long do I need to go?

[@invincibel4007]

Started him on a week of fasting, then 36 hour fasts three times a week and that ulcer healed like, within three weeks. 2:05:00.

[@esj-wg6rv]

The government's warp speed program could not have been so incredibly successful under standard FDA regulations.

[@johnvanderbur2211]

How do you test insulin on insulin? The doctor says, it not possible

[@jamesgordon8867]

Exercise the liver: photobiomodulation?

[@sidmichael1158]

So repamycin doesn't work?

[@cattleprods911]

Good discussion

[@markiangooley]

I was diagnosed with juvenile diabetes (as it was then called) in 1970. Only recently have I had success in controlling it - with low-carbohydrate eating and one meal a day. But I can’t tell anyone about it. If I do, I get a lecture about how this is dangerous and I need to eat SIX SMALL MEALS A DAY. I have never been spoken to about any religion or any other belief with such confidence and assurance! I wonder where it came from. Who promulgated this strange belief, and why this utter fanatical certainty about it? Oprah Winfrey? Dr. Oz? Who? When? Why?

[@nadinabbott3991]

Been a T2D for a few decades. None recommended fasting. In fact it was recommended against. And six meals a day. Well, after reading a lot, doing If for all intents and purposes And like you HFLC diet. I know the diabetes association got it wrong now.

[@arturodiazcoca7408]

He says fructose caused fatty liver? Then fructarians should all have fatty livers, shouldn't they? Or does he explicitely mean added fructose?

[@denastrahm9198]

What about rapamycin in the treatment of covid-19?

[@bely8416]

When dr. Fung says that t2d is reversed after fasting or bariatric surgery, does he mean that the patients are not cargo sensitive anymore?

[@Bruce.Wallace]

He means that they are off all meds, their blood glucose levels are normal and their insulin levels are normal. A complete reversal.

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[@ioodyssey3740]

@@ruffled_feathers7455 I disagree. Please listen to the interview two more times.

[@wmrajput]

So if removing the sugar out of the cells is what is required to reverse inslusin resistance/diabetes, why does it matter if you fast or just cut down on your carbs enough to go into keotisis over a long enough period so that the cells are always getting emptied of sugar

[@erastvandoren]

Nope, Fat metabolites block the insulin signaling pathway, that's what insulin resistance is. You need to get fat out of the cell. The best way to do this is a single week on a very low fat diet. Fasting may do this. Exercise too.

[@wmrajput]

@@erastvandoren thats what I am saying. Fung's hypothesis didn't make sense. As long as you eat less than you burn to he fat cells will release fat.

[@erastvandoren]

@@wmrajput Fat cells always release fat. In fact, maybe 3 times as much as needed for energy. The rest is simply cycled through the liver, through the VLDL, through the adipocytes. Or taken up directly by the adipocytes. It will get worse, if you are on a high fat diet, or if you are fat. To completely reverse insulin resistance, you not only need to burn off fat inside of muscle and cells, you also have to lower the level of fatty acids in the blood. And for that a very low fat diet is needed. Fasting only or exercise will burn off fat in muscles you train, but the fatty acid level in the blood will only go up.

[@kulata]

@@erastvandoren Your liver converts that carbs to fat. That's why low fat people also get fat and also you have your colon bacteria breaking fiber to short chain fatty acids. We also have Randle cycle It's more complicated than that.

[@erastvandoren]

@@kulata The conversion hardly ever happens. Maximum few grams a day. Only if you eat over 700g of carbs per day you will get sizable de novo lipogenesis.

[@davidfield2503]

Hi, I’m Dr. Fung, I’m a nephrologist. My hobby is cutting edge endocrinology!

[@juliaappleton17]

Nephrologists are medicine's chemists. You cannot be a prophet in your own land. He is tired of seeing people on dialysis who are so sick and is trying to intervene upsteam

[@saleemansari571]

I disagree with the comment that insulin resistance causes obesity. Obesity is a disease of the subcortical brain which causes patients to feel more hungry and less full. Patients with genetic defects in insulin signalling (i.e., insulin resistance) do not have the metabolic phenotype of obesity. Patients with lipodystrophy characterised by a lack of subcutaenous tissue have the metabolic phenotype of obesity. Therefore, patients with an inability to expand their subcutaneous adipose tissue (i.e., lipodystrophy) in response to a chronic positive energy balance store excess energy as visceral fat, which is associated with cardiometabolic disease. I do agree with the observation that patients with high levels of plasma insulin are at increased risk of cardiometabolic disease to include type 2 diabetes, NAFLD, PCOS, CVD and that weight loss is key. A therapy that helps patients lose weight by feeling less hungry and more full is an effective long-term strategy (i.e., GLP-1 based therapy, metabolic surgery), which should be combined with time-restricted eating or intermittent fasting. Surgery +/- GLP-1 (or dual/tri-agonist gut peptides) combined with time restricted feeding or intermittent fasting is the ideal best strategy. Physicians, surgeons and other members of the healthcare team should work together to support patients with metabolic disease to achieve a good quality of life using a multimodal / combined approach.

[@RARA64HUNNID]

Dick Gregory figured this out in the 60’s

[@jdram58]

First thing I said to my doctor was fasting when all this came upbut he put me on insulin and I did it for a while until I heard about this fasting and carnivor stop the sugar and carbs@! And why be on insulin if your not eating? And also a blood thinner and a blood pressure medicine Im eating no carbs and I fast frequently doesnt really bother me as Ive been on 40 day fasts so all this Ketosis this energy boost adrenaline testoasterone and energy boost some difficulty sleedping but it wasnt impossible in the years 1999 2000 and 2001 I did 40 day fasts seeking to and hearing from God. That ishow we grow spiritually. So why should I be afraid now when my own health is at stake! N I didnt know how to face off my doctor I trhought I would be forced into this treatment which some of us know it already doesnt work metforman and if I fallow whaT MY DOCTOR Says Im gonna get worse and worse and start putting on weight when my goal is to lose weight And get out of being diabetic! There is so ,much mis information its hard to know whats real and what is bullshit!! Sorry about my language but let freaken get reaL OR THEY CHOP OFF MY TOES AND MY FOOT! AND THGEN WHAT?

[@daves1107]

Let's just term fasting as natural bariatrics or nature's way, you can hold the term "medical bariatrics" while parking your medical ego at the door, this isn't about medical intervention or should I say medical interference. Seems like some people are always trying to hijack what the innate intelligence of nature has been doing since the beginning of time, actually thinking they can manipulate nature with their better scientific system. Only problem is that man's feeble attempt at science has a very, very, very limited base of knowledge. Not knowing the answers to questions but doesn't even know what questions to ask, mainly because of a limited belief system, otherwise know as BS. Have to start with the truth before you advance a concept and quit guessing and calling it science based. In lab work that is called a false positive. But we can always blame it on placebo, someone needs to tell you "you are the placebo".