59] When Sailing SUCKS! 33 Knots, Crossed Swell 🤮 | SAILING LIFE

Well this was one DIFFICULT sail! We're both utterly seasick, our sail plan goes out of the window and we take in water.
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[@johnbrookes2196]

Mark Twain said and this is my favourite:- Seasickness at first you are so sick you are afraid you will die, and then you are so sick you are afraid you won't die.

[@SailingKittiwake]

That describes it superbly! 👏

[@manfredschmalbach9023]

... seasickness, unlike homesickness, usually does not emend with going there ....

[@carlstout4546]

you kids don't worry about us ! you first, us when you have time, we are not going anywhere ! you kids are my hero's stay safe !!!! carl

[@SailingKittiwake]

Aw thank you so much Carl! So sweet of you ❤️

[@SVImpavidus]

Just did a rotten passage ourselves. We can normally outrun anything but today the sea was just so confused swell from every direction. Poor old Oscar he really does not like the rough stuff and while we and the boat are happy we now use the Oscar comfort factor to passage plan. Sail safe guys. Ant, Cid and the pooch crew. xx

[@SailingKittiwake]

Sorry to hear that! Confused swell is the worst, the only time Ryan's felt anywhere near that bad. Hope your next passage is better :)

[@bikinismartinis6758]

I will always trust my gut. Every time I’ve had “that feeling”, it turned out to be true. Sailing Music & Lyrics 💋⛵️🎸🎶

[@vanzi2834]

Great shows folks im on 12 hrs of my marathon watching your new boat refit and the Met. Cheers from Fla.USA

[@SailingKittiwake]

Wow that must be a record! Thanks ever so much for watching, Fla! So glad you're enjoying the videos.

[@russgarrett1664]

If it's a 2.5kW inverter, 2500W/12V = 200A, so a 300A fuse is not unreasonable. Glad you survived the passage!

[@nigelgriffiths259]

Can recommend Stugeron for seasickness prevention. Two before a crossing then one about every 5-6 hours. As for seacocks I always sailed with these closed, only opening as needed and then closing again. And as for things electrical, Ryan you are good at DIY so place all key components well above waterline and possibly wrapped in something waterproof etc. In the days of RDF I lost my receiver as it was in a low locker that got water in. Happy cruising.

[@SailingKittiwake]

Thanks Nigel! We closed the seacock pretty sharpish when we realised what was going on, I can tell you! And then pumped it out quickly. But the damage was done :(

[@gangstagrandma]

For two people who don't like the limelight, you do pretty well. Fair winds Skua.

[@SailingKittiwake]

Thank you Dawn 😘

[@nortonmolly]

I had that gut feeling before setting off on a motorbike ride several years ago. An accident occurred and I now have metal in my ankle. Gut feelings are easily confirmed in hindsight. Enjoy watching your travels👍

[@SailingKittiwake]

Ouch! We had it easy. Sorry to hear about your accident 🙁 Next time, we’ll follow our gut feeling.

[@Chris9183]

"I don't know who named them swells. There's nothing swell about them. They should have named them awfuls." - Hugo Vihlen

[@chriswills9530]

Welcome to the vomitorium. Poor you two. The relief on arrival was palpable! But, another experience to add to your log and another step on your journey to salty marinerhood. You did well, as ever. Survival and success is always a win.

[@SailingKittiwake]

Cheers Chris! We’ve cheered up by now but we had some tough times on that passage 😁

[@TasteBudJunkie]

Excellent video guys, i love the arm chair viewers telling you how to run your boat. Keep living the dream and hello from wet England

[@SailingKittiwake]

Ah they love to hang out on the comments section of sailing channels 😉 cheers! Sending you some sun ☀️

[@TheRattyBiker]

Grim crossing but glad you made it to nicer surroundings, that anchorage looked gorgeous.

[@SailingKittiwake]

Yes, it was spectacular! And so unexpected - that’s the best!

[@EdToml]

You both still look and sound fine even when you are not feeling your best.

[@SailingKittiwake]

Thank you! We didn’t film when we were actually unwell, so that helps 😁

[@Gwyhir]

I would always say, if it doesn't feel good, don't do it.But it good times are ahead for you. I spent some time bringing charter boats back to Glyfada near Athens..... I hope you have as much fun as I had.

[@SailingKittiwake]

Cheers Pete! We’ve learned the lesson 😁

[@JayPerrypersonal]

Great videos, I collected a new to us boat from Casterdellfels, south of Barcelona in early May and we sailed to Fornells in 39 to 40 knot winds and 3 to 4m seas. First time we had moved our new boat so a great test sail. Anchored in Fornells for 2 days had good holding but moved to Mahon for a couple of nights as gusts over 50 knots from N. Then sailed to Cagliari, Sardinia and had 40 to 50 knot winds for 10 hours coming into Sardinia. Guess it’s a windy place. Feel for you guys, I did sleep off watch but we were in PAOMIA our Amel Super Maramu. Enjoy and keep sailing Fare winds and following seas

[@SailingKittiwake]

Cheers Jay. Sounds like you had an exciting start with your new boat, like us. We saw 50kn in Menorca more than once this year and then 60kn in Sardinia and Sicily. We were very happy to have a light wind summer in Greece after that!

[@dogfood61188]

No matter how much sailing sucks just remember in a few days I have to go back to work... installing inverters in vans as it happens. I duno if anyone already answered, or if you still need to know but... Ohms law (V/I=R) is the relationship between volts current and resistance if you have any two you can calculate the third same applies to power calculations (P/V=I) so if you have a 3500w inverter divide the wattage by the voltage to get the current. So at the output 3500W/230v = 15A. If it’s a 12v inverter then at the input 3500w/12 = 291A. But that dosnt look like a 3.5Kw inverter. If it’s not too late, with what your doing you will want a true sine inverter, computers and stuff want to see a mains style waveform and might get upset if they don’t get it. It wants installing as close as possible to the batteries, you get volt drop when you pull lots of current over long distances so you might have 12v at the batteries but if you draw a lot of power might only get 10v at the inverter, which the inverter won’t like. Make sure your fuse is below the rating of the cables so they don’t set on fire and above the rating of the inverter so it doesn't blow. Connections need to be really tight or they will burn up too. You might want some kind of battery protection too, I would normally wire an inverter to only work when the engines running so the powers comes from the alternator rather than the batteries which could quickly kill them... oh and there’s very little that’s worse for electronics than sea water, but I think you got that. I’m playing catch-up with your videos but hope I’m in time to help

[@cathytodd3996]

Try scopoderm patches for seasickness. They work even if taken when the seasickness has already set in. Thanks for your videos, love your positive attitude and pragmatic approach to the sailing life. Fair winds!

[@SailingKittiwake]

Thanks a lot! I think they're tricky to get in Europe but we'll keep an eye out.

[@willgregor4392]

Aren't they terrible once you remove them? I've heard the withdrawal is nasty

[@sailingsolo5290]

Transderm scope.its scopalomine patches. Available all over europe. My gf gets car sick ,bus sick,plane sick. And seacsick like no human on earth. Thats why i am still a solo sailor After 5 yesrs we finally put a patch on her and went sailing. She was fine in rough weather. I knew it would work but she never believed me. Get the patch and end youre suffering forever.

[@mikenewzealand4525]

Could you not put some sort of non return valve on the salt water intake ?You could well do without all those water issues.!Its all about getting to know a new boat every little issue tends to pop up eventually!fair winds go well you two!

[@SailingKittiwake]

The water wasn't returning, it was being forced out of the pump housing because, as I know now, I'd reassembled it incorrectly

[@TroyaE117]

If you are leaned over for any length of time, be careful you do not lose the prime on the seawater through-hull for the engine cooling intake. Been there, done that.

[@SailingKittiwake]

Ours is really deep near the keel so never had it come out luckily. If you're that heeled why do you need the engine on can I ask? Charging batteries?

[@TroyaE117]

@@SailingKittiwake : if you have leaned the boat for any reason, the water can drain out of the seawater intake and the seawater pump cam lose prime and it fails to circulate coolant again unless it is primed. It is something to watch for.

[@R.E.HILL_]

Rough passage no fun at all... Did you guys get a pure or modified sine inverter... Charging expensive equipment, I vote pure sine...☺

[@SailingKittiwake]

We got a modified as we don't use it for anything fancy, just running (corded) power tools. If we had battery power tools or used it regularly for laptops etc then we'd definitely fork out for a pure sine wave one.

[@010203040506073]

it is a good idea to wear PFD's of some kind if you are off shore, also if you are moored in serious storm type conditions. especially if you are sailing with a small crew. It does not take much to slip and wind up in the drink, and then it's too late if you don't have on your PFD. something to keep in mind...........

[@SailingKittiwake]

Why PFDs? Do you think they're safer than a harness and tether that we use when we consider it appropriate? I'd rather not fall overboard than fall overboard and float thanks!

[@010203040506073]

If you're offshore more farther than realistic swimming distance back to land, especially if you're sailing with a small crew, you really want some kind of PFD, whether or not you use a safety harness. If you're anchored in a serious storm, you want to wear a PFD then as well. Things can happen quickly and unexpectedly on a boat. If you're anchored in a storm, sitting downstairs sipping a cup of tea, and CRASH a loose boat rams into you - you're going to scramble upstairs as fast as you can, and you're going to be without your PFD if you don't have it on beforehand - that's reality. What if you get dizzy, sneeze, and lose your footing on deck and go over the side as the boat is sailing along offshore in pretty flat water at 4 knots ? Are you going to be able to swim fast enough to catch up to the boat ? Probably not. And what if your fellow crew member is sleeping downstairs, and does not hear any commotion or your yelling as you recede farther and farther from the vessel. I don't know if you've even been hit on the head in earnest by the boom, but I have - and it is rather "stunning" no pun intended. You can easily be knocked out by that. If that happens offshore, good chance you could wind up drowning and/or left behind in the water as your vessel sails on, if you go over the side. Once when I was young, I was sitting on the bowsprit of a pretty big sailboat in the Pacific, sailing along very nicely through around 11-12' swells which kind of steep. and resting a little bit, probably 17-18 kts. of wind, which the boat was handling perfectly well - and a sportfisherman came by out of the blue, maybe 4-5 boat 'lengths away in the open Pacific, at full speed and threw up a +/- 6 wake crosswise to the seas that were running, and that almost put me into the drink, very very close. And no one on board would have seen me fall in, and when I realized that - it scared the hell out of me. You don't have to wear one of the super-colossal PFD's all the time - but if you're offshore single-handing or with a small crew, wear some kind of PFD. It's up to you, but that's my suggestion.

[@010203040506073]

excuse me "11-12' seas which were kind of steep and cresting a little bit"

[@Mikinct]

Just sit right back And you'll hear a tale A tale of a fateful trip That started from this tropic port Aboard this tiny ship The mate was a mighty sailing man The skipper brave and sure Five passengers set sail that day For a 3 hour tour, a 3 hour tour The weather started getting rough The tiny ship was tossed If not for the courage of the fearless crew The Minnow would be lost, the Minnow would be lost

[@SailingKittiwake]

Great lyrics :) Thank you, Michael!

[@TwoGetLost]

Looks horrible guys, seasickness tablets work wonders for Adam! I dread the day I finally get it, apparently there's a hull shape and a sea state for everyone :( xx

[@SailingKittiwake]

Ours didn’t work on this occasion 🤷🏻‍♀️ We’ve switched meds since, but we’ve not had such horrible conditions since. We’ll have to test the new med sometime 😅

[@TwoGetLost]

@@SailingKittiwake Are these the ones from Greece you were saying about? Stugeron seems to work for Adam but if it stops it's good to know there are different ones to try! We've also heard you should make yourself eat, preferably before it happens obviously...but I don't really understand why that would help.....think it's something Adam has made up so he can eat more!

[@pietrokefa2354]

Welcome in Sicily! We are in Egadi!!!

[@frankd2301]

I’m very surprised that the inverter was that low in the boat.

[@SailingKittiwake]

It was next to, but outboard of, the batteries.

[@HMS1Blake]

5:30 - "Strong you are in the ways of the force. Listen to your feelings you must." (Arthur J. Yoda Esq, A long time ago)

[@stevelawrie9115]

All came good :)

[@janecme]

Only good thing about seasickness is being really, really hungry when you find shelter

[@SailingKittiwake]

Haha! Yep. Ryan definitely felt that way!

[@jamestim319]

Nice guys.. on Nocturne our inverter is high and dry. Completely different layout though. where will you relocate yours?

[@SailingKittiwake]

I think we'll keep it packaged up as we rarely use it and plug it in as needed.

[@86config]

This might be heresy around here but you two seemed much happier on the heavenly twin, since you got Skua you just dont seem to be having as good a time. Maybe its winter content, or the financial stress of the larger boat or simply the concerns of managing a larger boat. Anyway, hope things pick up for you both.

[@SailingKittiwake]

I think it's just the weather at that time, it's way better now, and we've had some spectacular sails and some incredible times since. I think the spring we had would have been horrible on almost any boat. We're much less stressed out and irritable than we were when we were on Kittiwake, especially the first year.

[@86config]

@@SailingKittiwake Glad to hear it. I will look forward to seeing those adventures !

[@SailingKittiwake]

86config the next episode (which went live yesterday) is one of those amazing sails 😊

[@nick.caffrey]

Why had you not secured the automatic bilge pump?

[@Bart_Sels]

Bad trip but nice video... If you put the date of filming as a lower thirth in the video it would help the view to get the context and learn from the video. I have been sea sick myself...

[@SailingKittiwake]

Cheers Bart. This was end of April.

[@anders34]

Hi, thanks for nice video. You did great. ;-) I would buy 12v charger for the laptop and saved the battery a bit. And some 6->12V converter?

[@SailingKittiwake]

Thank you! We actually only use 12v chargers for our laptops as it’s more efficient, but Ryan’s charger broke the day before this sail, so this was the only time he used the inverter and forgot it on 🤦🏽‍♀️ Typical 😁

[@nito120972]

we are going there next year, what are you planning for winter? and where...

[@SailingKittiwake]

Probably Portugal, not sure 😊

[@frankd2301]

Seems the med is living up to it’s reputation

[@SailingKittiwake]

Definitely is!

[@simoncroker2577]

seasick ? you need to try the gosport ferry with a hangover

[@SailingKittiwake]

Haha! No, thank you. Vomiting all night and staring at the horizon with our mouths open for hours on end was enough :D

[@philipfreeman72]

When I lived at Kotzebue Alaska a couple were leaving in a small boat but the lady took the packs back out. There was a bad storm , I think women may be more sensitive .

[@SailingKittiwake]

Funny you say that because Ryan was the first to vomit 😁

[@joeswinny7686]

Are you two enjoying your life afloat or have you considered giving it all up? I see Kittiwake is on Ebay, the couple who bought it didn't last long. Best wishes

[@SailingKittiwake]

No we love it, but the spring was pretty tough weather all the time 😊 Yes, they’re selling Kittiwake. It’s not easy to show, but life on a sailboat and making money from a sailboat is a big challenge. It’s not for everyone.

[@feshfeshsailing]

@@SailingKittiwake Remember that the Med sea is not a vast open ocean. It is surrounded by big continents and land masses with very different weather patterns. Forecasting Med weather especially during spring and fall seasons is a tough case for the most seasoned forecaster. The Arabic name for the Med is "White sea" (translated word for word), and there is a good reason to that choice of name.

[@SailingKittiwake]

Normally modern weather forecasts are really good here, but during these passages there was the jet stream screwing up the weather models. Since then it calmed down and the forecasts are spot on again thankfully :)

[@williamwright2183]

You guys have been tossed around a lot lately. Hoping for fair wind soon.

[@SailingKittiwake]

Cheers William! Send us some nice wind please 😊

[@williamralph5442]

Always something...

[@SailingKittiwake]

Yes, this spring was very tough. We were the only boat out most of the time (as you can see in the videos). The Med is unpredictable. We look forward to the easy sailing of the Caribbean one day.

[@marvinatkins2355]

12' isn't towering, 30' is though

[@pauljohnson9542]

Marvin Atkins do you have any clips of you in 30 foot waves on your KZbin channel.

[@marvinatkins2355]

@@pauljohnson9542 unfortunately no youtube and cell phones were only in cartoons in the the 80's. The bigest seas I've ever seen were 70. We were stuck in a hurricane for 4 days off North Carolina. We had to go in the shipyard after that the, ship was a mess.

[@ManofPirate]

seen your cat on ebay and braught me here! im either gonna go with cat or trimaran which would you say is less likely to die in

[@ManofPirate]

and it less weather reliant

[@SailingKittiwake]

A campervan :)

[@ManofPirate]

@@SailingKittiwake hahaha that a boat or land off grid living undecided

[@SailingKittiwake]

In a boat, you are 100% weather reliant 😁

[@ScinnerNo1]

There´s much talk of being comfotable? Who gave you the illusion of the sea being comfortable? I mean if you like being comfortable the sea might not be for you?

[@SailingKittiwake]

I guess as you only sail your armchair around your living room you don’t know as much as you think you do?

[@AidanWeatherill]

Chin up!

[@billroberts9182]

Large Inverters can be very hard on 12v batteries. Use judiciously!. Buy a 12v accessory plug "inverter" that puts out 2 amps @5.0v. Perfect for the computer or camera- can plug into accessory receptacle in a car rental too. About $25

[@SailingKittiwake]

Cheers Bill, you're of a like mind to us! We rarely use the inverter and have 12v adapters for most things.

[@juliaweeks5075]

@@SailingKittiwake How do you charge your laptops and tablets? Do you go to shore mostly for that?

[@SailingKittiwake]

Julia Weeks nope we have 12V cables for both laptops. They break every 6-10 months but we fix them up or buy new. Worth every penny 😊

[@clarkkent772]

Sea sick? Sea Bands‼️

[@SailingKittiwake]

They don’t work for us.

[@clarkkent772]

Sailing Kittiwake 😢

[@mikenewzealand4525]

Why. Don’t you get an electric windless that manual one must be tedious!

[@SailingKittiwake]

No way! The manual one is fantastic, we much prefer it and if it died (it'll probably out live both of us) then we'd get another manual one.

[@sailingsolo5290]

You will one day understand. Probobly when its blowing like hell in the night and either you are draging or someone else is into you and you cant do anything. Be ready to toss youre anchore and good luck to you.. its like rowing a inflatable. You can do it but its pretty useless.

[@SailingKittiwake]

Sailing Solo in any of those situations, we’d attach a fender to our chain so we can pick it up another day and swap to our second anchor, which is another Manson Supreme, only one size down to our oversized one. We’ve done it before.

[@mikenewzealand4525]

Sailing Kittiwake its like the other issues takes time for a certain situation to arise ?

[@mozismobile]

Maybe get a small inverter for stuff like laptops and a bigger one for whatever your big loads are? No need to put 10W into running a 1kW inverter to power yopur laptop. You can also get 12V-19V laptop adapters to do that directly, BTW - just look for a chunky potted one rather than the "100W, honest guv, and only $10" style. You want a big heat sink open on one side with the circuitry inside that and potted into a solid lump. Top looks like this: i.imgur.com/C8qpyA7.png and they're readily available from your usual suspects. If you do that you should also buy the exact plug your laptop needs to put on the end of it :) Possibly also use something like an XT30 plug/socket in series so if you have two different laptops you can make one cable for each (just don't use the same plugs for both 12V and 19V... ahem, I have never made that mistake, honest)

[@SailingKittiwake]

Hi 😊 We only really use the inverter for the drill (once every few months?). Ryan used it for his laptop that one time because his 12V charger cable was broken. All our electronics have 12V chargers 😊👍

[@mozismobile]

if you can get 12V chargers that is definitely better.

[@SailingKittiwake]

mozismobile we only use the inverter for the drill and this one time because Ryan’s 12V laptop charger was broken. We use the inverter maybe once every 3 months? We have 12V chargers for absolutely everything other than power tools.

[@brianmardon7123]

Ever beeeen sick on Kittiwake ?????

[@SailingKittiwake]

Yes, not this bad but then we never had a crossed swell on Kittiwake.

[@almath9987]

Bit of a hard time for you both🙄 hope you get fairer winds. Good to see you finish with a pizza 👍🍕 do like my pizza. Check out my video i recently post on my newly built pizza oven 🍕🍕🍕

[@JonMadsen70]

:)

[@MrR6pilot]

Never set sail on a Friday ......

[@MrR6pilot]

It's considered unlucky - Sailors superstition !

[@MrR6pilot]

I thought that was one of the most common ones ! ..... I love all that 😁

[@SailingKittiwake]

We don’t believe in superstitions 😁 We sailed on Fridays for 2.5 years 😅

[@MrR6pilot]

maybe that explains some things LOL

[@SailingKittiwake]

MrR6pilot LOL! There’s enough factors that go into a sail plan, if we added “not on a Friday” as a factor, we’d rarely sail 😅

[@markh2005]

I think you should get a refund on your weather software!!

[@SailingKittiwake]

It’s all free, thank goodness. Windy and Predict Wind show 4 models each, all for free.

[@markh2005]

@@SailingKittiwake Glad youre both safe, if a bit green round the gills! 👍

[@SailingKittiwake]

PS there was a big problem with the forecasting in the Med this spring. The Jet Stream was in the Med for 2 months messing up all forecasts completely.

[@SailingSquib]

@@SailingKittiwake I used Windy the last years, but changed to windfinder the forecast is mostly nearer to that what happens in real life

[@SailingKittiwake]

We've found windy's ICON forecast to be generally spot on since the jet stream went up north where it belongs :)

[@damit505]

next time you will listen to your gut instinct

[@SailingKittiwake]

Indeed! 😁

[@TroyaE117]

The unforgiving, unsettled Med'. Vastly over-rated.