The greatest Audi R8 of all time is...! V8-powered early R8 v rear-wheel drive V10 R8 GT

[@TheIntercooler]

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[@robz1471]

Dan Prosser really is a joy to watch . The way he talks about suspension, the car park test reference, the enthusiasm and knowledge about cars is top level ❤ keep it up prosser

[@Nonegiven14582]

Just seems to me to be one of the regular type TV people who look like they are on ADHD medication. Sometimes when watching soccer I can only catch the odd word, some speak so fast. In car videos they talk like Boris Johnson. Putting emphasis on certain words and they pause a lot.

[@MohsinWadee]

The original R8 was the best looking too.

[@misterdragzon]

That side blade on the original 🤌🏼

[@sveeny]

The later R8's are amazing cars. But the old one has a timeless design and the available open gated shifter is perfection.

[@villaman4818]

Never selling my V8. I've spent 20k on it in 3 years of ownership (on stock maintenance) ...and it is as good now as it was when it came out of the factory. i dont do track , so for fast road driving its up there with the very best.👍

[@jonathanmillar]

Do you mind me asking what required 20k?

[@villaman4818]

@ I’ve replaced the suspension (H&R coil overs ), most of the air con and oil lines were corroded, oil cooler , air oil separator , it’s been with REP a few times..and is booked in with them for a carbon clean soon, front end respray due to 10 years of stone chips, Top Gear exhaust, some interior bits as they were looking a little worn,.(still to fully complete this) and other bits and bobs.

[@nelmur]

@@villaman4818 I'm right there with you. Mine is (now) on H&R coil overs, normal bits and bobs (belt tensioner, transmission case bolts replacement), new pads and rotors, and I am eyeing a carbon clean next year for the 35k service.

[@sebafumi]

Me neither 🤲🏻 super happy with mine too 💯

[@KN-jw7ts]

Love these “old v new” vids. You’re the man Dan.

[@conquistadore4708]

Had my Gen 1 manual V8 R8 for five years now, put 30k on it and it’s by far the most enjoyable car I’ve ever owned. I live in the UK, where roads are often tight ‘n’ twisty, busy and wet (it’s England, innit). I can max my R8 on pretty much every drive if I choose to, ring its neck safely and get home in one piece feeling like a hero. Popped a Top Gear valves exhaust on it and it sounds incredible. I absolutely love it and it’s earnt the right to stay in the garage forever, I’m never selling it. Bloody marvellous thing.

[@gmain1977]

R8 is a legend in its own lifetime. Prefer the older one.

[@Frankmejor]

You just can't beat a gated shifter. Mid engine, well balanced, naturally aspirated, awd, manual transmission, is a pretty rare combination if you think about it, the only other cars I can think of are some versions of the gallardo.

[@SteezyG]

Its funny to see the Mag Ride in the original being a "must have" option and now they're failing the aftermarket has decided to swap over to coilovers.

[@howarddavies136]

OY07 MHL is also Audis press car that TG drove against the 911 turbo in period, so it's bound to be kept in tip top condition. I wouldn't touch a mag ride equipped car.

[@stu2418]

Why not? The ride is better than the passives in soft and the Magrides are easy enough to get refurbed.

[@howarddavies136]

@stu2418 coils and dampers are more reliable. Simple as that, really. If the stock dampers weren't right for my taste, I'd probably upgrade to a KW V3 or Öhlins R&T, though I've found the R&T on my own car to come with springs that are perhaps a little too stiff.

[@stu2418]

@@howarddavies136 True about reliability but if they're not leaking I wouldn't reject a car if it had them. Especially if you're going to swap out for coils instead.

[@AliBadman-u9n]

I had mag rise on an R8 and a TTS - it was woeful even when first launched

[@dair919]

The earlier R8s are far better looking than the new ones, IMO of course. The latest ones look too fussy.

[@fudganuld]

The OG is miles better looking....Ha!

[@crazytingz7006]

Don't lie to yourself

[@shawndon7374]

Hes not maybe your just blind haha. The og one is way sexier. Not to mention the 2003 concept. Still looks like the future​.@@crazytingz7006

[@hajiku1606]

that's your opinion. i like the new one. old one still look classy though

[@curlsalot91]

@@crazytingz7006so true

[@curlsalot91]

yikes

[@Nonegiven14582]

I drove a V8 Audi R8 in 2016 and it was just really nice. Even as an automatic. Just made you feel special.

[@howarddavies136]

For anyone who ever lusted after a 360, an R8 makes a compelling realistic alternative.

[@drumdone]

I drove both on a supercar track experience day years ago. The R8 was light years ahead, an absolute joy.

[@Stigman11]

I could not agree more about the OG R8 V8 Gated manual, that’s because I am a proud owner since 2020. The Wingback Recaro seats make it even better, love it!

[@crouchingmole]

love these vids - the GT3 GTS T vid is one of my fave car vids from this year

[@Lucas-ck1po]

The original design was so much more elegant, oh dear... Imagine swapping the current V10 into this unit and bam, masterpiece

[@rekt_86]

the gen2 v10 is only doing about 30whp more in the upper rpm range due to cam and intake manifold changes, at the cost of some low end torque

[@zimbarbaluba]

I converted my Gen 1 v8 manual to rear wheel drive, the steering feel now is even better. Unlock the character of the v8 with an aftermarket exhaust it's hands down the best sub £40k sportscar.

[@rekt_86]

I've done the same to my V10, these cars are so good in RWD form

[@gazman9468]

Be interested to know roughly how much weight was saved and how it affected weight distribution etc. RWD converting the V8 makes a lot of sense to me as there's not so much torque that you need to worry about overloading the rear tyres too much. I imagine it's a great deal of fun though now!

[@rekt_86]

@@gazman9468 it saves about 90lbs, i’ve gotten my V10 down to just under 3300lbs with a full tank.

[@rekt_86]

@@gazman9468 43/57 weight distribution with a lithium battery and titanium exhaust

[@zimbarbaluba]

@gazman9468 Saves about 34kg, depends on what stub axle solution you use to replace the CV joints on the back of the hub. Steering feel is incredible now, the rear is much more exciting and lively compared to before. Ideally you need adjustable coilovers to get the best from the change to reset the rake of the car for better weight distribution over the front.

[@shakespeareracing7822]

How did I just find out about this channel? Dropped a subscription. Great video. It appears a rear wheel conversion on an early r8 is the bargain buy.

[@jameswiltshire7612]

Love these comparisons, it should become a series - 1st gen vs current gen comparisons. Keep up the great work!

[@GolfDeltaHoliday]

Great discussion, love this format - Dan drives both on screen and then the discussion after the Andrew over which is the better option.

[@urbanstrencan]

Audi R8 for me still the best supercar , just looks soo amazing, still dream to own one , one day 😊❤. Really hope that Audi somehow brings back R8 in the future. Guys thanks for celebrating this automotive icon the OG in this video.🤟🤟🤩🤩

[@eggplantandpeach]

Get an older gen R8 V10 Manual, fix any issues and do some tasteful mods to it. Better than most modern supercars..

[@papa_pt]

imo my favorite would be 1st gen R8 Roadster V10 with the manual

[@sutats]

Cool car, I remember it when Paul from SOL got his.

[@PaulSchofield-p6b]

Having always wanted the first-generation R8, my concerns are the service costs and the availability of certain parts that AUDI have stopped making. For now, I will stick with my 2007 A6 S Line 2.7TDI Quattro Le Mans Speck 150k on the clock and still running like new ( Rare as hen's teeth Sleeper that has been known to push the odd Subaru Impretsa on the back roads of the Lincolnshire Wolds in the wet ) and my 2002 first-generation Audi TT Quattro Turbo with 40k on the clock. (My father bought it new and gave it to me to keep). For rear-wheel driving, I will keep to my 1968 Porsche 912 right-hand drive, which I have owned for 35 years. First gen R8 one day, for sure.

[@johnnyboyj1929]

Good show guys

[@wasimakujee5627]

30k gets you a nice v8 manual with 60k and probably a clutch job already done absolutele bargain that’s how I got mine actually paid 29500 had everthing done previous owner had oil cooler all the pipes and clutch , air oil separator and new sump plus lots of other stuff best car I’ve ever owned coming from a cayman s absolutely sublime 8300 rpm lets go !!!

[@michaelsummerell8618]

The older car is so much better looking.

[@Buran01]

It is. The lines flow seamlessly, the side blade covered the whole surface and not just the lower part, the grill and the lights are better integrated (was the firt car with full leds in the market)... The shape was an instant classic, as a a 911 or a Mustang. The new versions are full of stright angles which not only age bad and look like a "Lambo wannabe" but also seems like the shape is cut with an axe.

[@ericvermeulen9853]

Hi Dan , love your channel, im a deep ///M guy but i must tell you the manual OG R8 still pulls me strong

[@wasptim]

Been watching/listening to you for a while now. I have concluded that you don't much like very high performance but rather a slower car that can be safely used on our roads full of feel. As the owner of 15 or so cars, many from the 80s (esprit turbo) 90s (Lotus Carlton, GT4 Carlos sainz, 205 GT4s etc)and more modern cars like 800bhp GTR R35 I think faster is still preferable as they deliver thrills the others cannot.

[@HiddenWen]

I first became acquainted with the R8 while watching Iron Man. An amazing car in an amazing movie.

[@Nonegiven14582]

They previously did a 2 wheel drive version and it struggled to sell. That is why they didn't bother making loads of them.

[@FastandFun]

The original R8 V8 6MT is fast becoming a modern classic

[@iamspyvspy3077]

Does the 4.2 v8 in the original R8 suffer from the same problems as other applications of the 4.2 like the B7 Rs4 etc ?

[@78Outlaw]

Good video as ever guys but a query on the verdict.. your conclusion that going rwd made the latter cars much better but the best car is the Gen1 *with awd, did that point to Audi getting the later trans set up wrong or just a poor mating with later more powerful motors, all a bit vexing 🧐

[@lingenieurdecrypte]

The OG gets it so right. ❤ Less is more.

[@TheDominic1612]

The old design is still very nice.

[@RumblestripDotNet]

Would love to have Andrew have some in-car video commentary in future videos.

[@howarddavies136]

If i remember correctly, the mark 2 V10 had a different firing order to the original R8 V10 (odd vs even firing) and that explains the noise difference. I may be wrong though.

[@rekt_86]

the V10 in the r8 never changed (except some camshaft and intake changes). they sound identical when you put an exhaust on them. the early gallardo with the 5.0 had a flat plan crank and different firing order. sounded more F1

[@howarddavies136]

@rekt_86 ahh, thanks for clearing that up. Just out of curiosity, is the RS6 V10 related to the Gallardo or Huracan V10s? I'm assuming the Huracan is the same as the R8 V10s.

[@rekt_86]

@@howarddavies136 gallardo 5.2 is the same as the gen1 R8 engine. huracan 5.2 is just the gen2 engine from the gen2 R8 (slight changes over the gen1 V10 but mostly the same). the RS6 V10 is shared with the gen1 R8

[@runrabbitrunracing]

One please!

[@EddieRicks-i8v]

I agree with there statements on this car. My gf has the original and what a joy to drive . N/A cars are best 😊

[@gmain1977]

Your GF?? But did you buy it?😅

[@EddieRicks-i8v]

@ no I have a mk2 vr6 audi tt it’s a better car because I can actually avoid a pot hole or the occasional chipmunk lol the r8 takes up way more real estate on the road lol 😂 and it’s easier to got speeding ticket 🙃

[@flixarnD]

"You are not going to replace it" is wrong. I had an R8 exactly like the V8 one in the video, and I replaced it. Although, that was with another manual V8 R8 but with every single factory option, which is basically a golden unicorn...

[@MrGB1999]

The biggest single problem with the R8 is the people they attract and the people that gravitated towards them as drivers. They weren't driving purists. The R8 became a car for.. Yeah.. Midnight, inner-city revvers and drag racers. And it's that attachment that I imagine puts off so many people that genuinely love cars, or more precisely, driving.

[@redemptionx2918]

Funny I always seen that for Lamborghini

[@richardmortimer8147]

There is no way I would buy that V10 R8 GT. Rather the old V8 + a Huracan!

[@Nonegiven14582]

Friends of mine, buying even the Audi S5 V8 car. Struggled to afford even the clutch being replaced. With many buying a car on finance. Car like this. How many could find another 10k some years for maintenance?

[@redemptionx2918]

Cars like that are for enthusiasts. You going to have problems picking up a 10 year+ old car. If you want a car like that you have to be into it. I’ve had nothing but problems with my R8 but I’m happy fixing it, as I get enjoyment out of it.

[@Nonegiven14582]

@redemptionx2918 Happy getting a bill for 10k when the clutch goes and it also needs other work? That's 200 pounds a week for a whole year. Too much for many to find.

[@redemptionx2918]

@luckily nobody is going to be happy getting a 10k Bill! Luckily I can and I would do the job myself. You can make a clutch last 100k miles if you like. Also 10k is outrageous price, It cost around 4k for a R8 clutch install and 2k of that is the clutch. Again I would not recommend buying a older sports car if your heart is not in it. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve seen maybe people buy older performance cars and get disheartened when things go wrong. But people should do research on how much things are going to cost before they get the car, especially wearable items like a clutch.

[@Nonegiven14582]

@redemptionx2918 You can't make a clutch last 100k if someone been drag racing the car, before you've bought it. I knew someone who didn't have his V8 Ausi S5 for 6 months. Before realising the clutch needed changing. Not many people would. Or even would have the facility to change the clutch on any car. I've got a company fitter/mechanic I deal with. He works with me in construction. But I can't imagine he's change the clutch on an R8.He bought a brand new M2 Competition. The last shape, when they came out. I think he paid 52k for something sensible. Not some old load of hassle. My girlfriends pre registered Audi was 36k. Again. Before than a load of hassle

[@redemptionx2918]

@@Nonegiven14582 Of course you can’t. My point was a new clutch can last 100k miles, depending how it’s driven. But if I was buying a car that has done 50k miles and had no clutch change I would be searching how much I’m going to need to get a new one, because it’s going to go! My mate also has an R8 similar mileage to mine and not had one problem. It’s a mixed bag. I literally follow KZbin/Google and work on a drive. I personally wouldn’t spend that sort of money on a M2, but it comes down to preference. My company car has had no problems, but my Colleague has had nothing but problems (both brand new). We could be comparing all day. My original point was nobody should get into a decade old sports car and think it’s going to be a smooth ride. 10k is a lot to spend on any car no matter the age… hopefully you and your friend has better luck in the future!

[@STORM3SHADOW]

I 100% believe the sweet spot was the Gen 1 V10 with the gated manual, but I'm a bit biased since I own one! 😉 But I do agree the Gen 1 is a better drivers car. It possessed so many analog elements(hydraulic steering, manual hand brake, mechanical LSDs, and of course, the atmospheric V8/V10!) and the design was timeless-- it still looks modern even today! The trademark sideblades were very distinguishing. The Gen 2 is obviously more capable and has a much nicer and more modern interior, but the electric steering is too numb, there was no manual transmission offered, and just like most supercars of the last decade, they have become too clinical and less visceral. The GT is a bit disappointing to me. They basically threw everything and the kitchen sink from the Audi Sport parts bin and called it "special". What Audi should have done was take a page from Lamborghini like they did with the STO. Make the final swan song R8 an homage to the racecar it was named after. Lightweight, RWD, more aggressive bodywork(have you seen the ABT XGT?) that would garner a "1 of xxx" number badge more than that GT they ended up offering. Long live the R8!!!! Its destined to be a future classic.

[@pauln0371]

The OG V8 didn't land in Britain until 2007 TBF...

[@TTRS7899]

such a shame to see v10 r8 go down :( best car audi has ever produced

[@Roddy_Zeh]

1st gen looks better, but I'd gladly own an Abt XGT too.

[@ehtikhet]

It definitely feels like our two presenters are aware that their gushing over the original is a good way to drive up prices of their next auto trader obsession 😅

[@kevincoombs7348]

That original V8 looks and sounds mega. I'm forever looking at/ being tempted by 993/996 911's. How do they compare? PS it's great to see new content over the Christmas period.

[@computerhelpcc]

2009 Motortend big comparo track day, pro driver Pobst thought R8 would have no peer, but changed mind after P Cayman S w PDK saying "race car, race car, race car, Wow". I can say from concurrent ownership, hard to beat sounds of V8 (99 996.1 cable throttle manual, 2009 Boxster and 2016 Lexus GS F) but ownership cost of a Cayman prob lowest by far.

[@ThrottleBody]

Original r8 comes from peak car era.

[@reds281gt]

The Gen 2 is much better looking! I have owned both a gated manual V10 gen 1 and now a gen 2 awd! Gen 2 is better in every way! It feels even more special than the Gen 1

[@KN-jw7ts]

You are in the minority sir.

[@milan_gt]

👏👏👏

[@rishankhaugustine864]

Great Video! Would've loved to see some montages of the interiors and exteriors of both cars!

[@rapidgtp]

I'm sorry you lost my interest when you used the term "wooden" - clearly you havent driven the B7 RS4

[@Tomberculosis-q1i]

Og better bc iron man

[@10secondsrule]

Original on the looks alone. I can’t even look at these angled monstrosities no matter how better they drive.

[@0tispunkm3y3r]

The new one is straight up ugly. Its so over wrought. It makes the OG look elegant by comparison.

[@DMR777-p5o]

might have bought one if you didn`t need to be 5ft 8 or smaller

[@KN-jw7ts]

huh? ive seen NFL lineman in these things.

[@redemptionx2918]

I’m 6ft 3 and my left leg hits the steering wheel a lot when turning which make it a bit difficult to steer. But overall still comfortable

[@Tuned_by_Yaro]

who the hell needs electric R8...rip VW

[@mochabear88]

lit

[@Nonegiven14582]

Why is he talking about R8's being 25k. A bargain if you can find a well cared for example. You are going to get anything decent for 25k! Hence the reason he, and anyone sensible. Doesn't buy 25k Audi R8s. Why is he talking nonsense. You'll probably get a nice one with a manual gearbox and no problems for 50k. But by then. Would be far easier/better to spend that money on a new/nearly new Cayman with a warranty.

[@soupondaroof1]

I bought a manual V8 R8 with 60k miles that’s got zero issues after having been checked by a specialist. £28500 2 months ago. Aftermarket exhaust, and really expensive coilovers included. There’s loads of good examples, don’t parrot things you read online without having a look yourself

[@Nonegiven14582]

As I state elsewhere. Friends of mine bought V8 Audi S5's. One guy bought a lovely one. Didn't keep it a year. Second guys one needed the engine out for a new clutch. The bill for that and few other things was around 8k. On a car he hadn't paid 10k for. Next thing he was driving a Fiesta and got an A6 for his office work. That broke down 200 miles from home and he sold it on the side of the road as he didn't have recovery on his AA. If you've got a good car, that's great. We got my girlfriend an A5 S-line Quattro for 36k pre registered when we could have got an old R8. We made the right choice. Ours is 67 plate. So now over 7 years old. Even with that, Audi say the brake discs are lipped. Whatever that means and it's 1600 quid for full replacements. In reality it's a 27k car with no hassles and still 70% left on the brake pads. Used to get warning lights regarding the computer updating. But other than one collision with a lorry. It's been no problem. Rich/sensible people don't buy old cars as it's false economy. If you've got your car on finance and get a 10k bill. Can you handle it? And if so? Why not just buy a new Cayman or Alpine/Lotus in the first place? I drove an R8 at a supercar day in 2015 and even back then it looked old. Was a great (old) car. It was old even then. No one wants the auto R8 and the manual one has clutch problems if people keep racing it off the lights. In reality it's fur coat and no knickers. Rich people I know buy the 400bhp electric Jag thing and stuff like that.

[@soupondaroof1]

@ this is so far from your original point. You don’t need 50k for a good example, that was what you said. Rich people don’t buy old cars? Not seen the massive boom in restomods? Who owns all these old Ferraris, lambo’s and porches then? How are you comparing an A5 to an R8 that’s 10 years older and talking about bills 🤣 anyone who buys these cars knows there’s bills associated with them. I had an Evo x before this and an engine rebuild cost me £12,000. If you can’t handle that stay out of performance cars, they’re not comparable to your A5. The guy I bought the R8 from is a good friend I go to the Nurburgring with each year. He drove it hard for 10k miles, no issues outside of regular maintenance

[@Nonegiven14582]

​@@soupondaroof1Nothing decent for 30k on Auto trader. These cars, even saying that. Have lot of value over the last 2-3 years

[@KN-jw7ts]

Buddy, you are just rambling incoherently. I much rather listen to what the hosts say about the matter. And lastly, the cayman….as nice as it is, is no r8.

[@curlsalot91]

The Audi Badge on the bonnet looks awful on both cars. Incredible how selfish a company can be to have the necessity having to put the badge in the front at all cost even when disrespecting the cars design. The position is way too high. Like having a tattoo on a forehead. Looks stupid

[@northernirishviking7283]

Will still come 2nd to the equivalent bmw and Porsche in performance

[@Nonegiven14582]

Guy spends have the video trying to sell stuff? He reason he's gathered together these cars. Is to try and make money out of them. Please don't be fooled it's about anything else.